Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[nutella]

I do think the Sabi spew on Seanzie looks good for him and would prefer SVS/112 at this time

What is it

Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him.

Could be she is trying to hide a fox among the chickens for her flip and if one of them is wolf and one is town it would be seanzie/creature(town) for me

Ye exactly this

since when do you agree with me and not want to burn me?

I don't think I've been particularly anti-rondo? I've largely glossed over discussion of you tbh, like ig you could be a wolf since ppl seem paranoid but you've had a fairly solid slate of contribution afaict.

[Seanzie]

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

This is about me, yes? Convince me you believe what you're saying.

[nutella]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

Like actually open up Sean's iso and view that it is shit.

[nutella]

What's this "convince me you believe" nonsense like lmao

[falcon45ca]

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I do think the Sabi spew on Seanzie looks good for him and would prefer SVS/112 at this time

What is it

Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him.

Could be she is trying to hide a fox among the chickens for her flip and if one of them is wolf and one is town it would be seanzie/creature(town) for me

Ye exactly this

since when do you agree with me and not want to burn me?

I don't think I've been particularly anti-rondo? I've largely glossed over discussion of you tbh, like ig you could be a wolf since ppl seem paranoid but you've had a fairly solid slate of contribution afaict.

Break in case of F3 with Alison/Nutella/Mac

Spoiler: show

Weirdly as much as I get abrasive with Mac and Alison this pings me more than any confrontation I have with them. It feels like you know I am town and are happy to let them murder me and point out that you knew I was town the whole time and they should have listened to you.

[nutella]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

I'mma just gonna stick with Nutella wolf.

I just skimmed your d1 iso and it's much less towny than I thought tbh wowee

Also you claimed the ilario shot, wanna talk about that?

Yeah, I shot Ilario. Might shoot you tonight.

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

Like ?????? Idk how anyone can take this seriously

All he's done is shoot ilario, which is a slot maf could easily want dead not to mention a lot of kp is already from town, and lazily state a hipster scumread on me with no substance, and that's literally it. He does not care about the fucking roof.

[Seanzie]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

Like actually open up Sean's iso and view that it is shit.

Is this in response to my most recent challenge? I'd like to hear fresh, not frozen, responses. What about my ISO is bad? Who exactly is this town KP I can't coexist with? Why do you suspect me?

[nutella]

What is it

Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him.

Could be she is trying to hide a fox among the chickens for her flip and if one of them is wolf and one is town it would be seanzie/creature(town) for me

Ye exactly this

since when do you agree with me and not want to burn me?

I don't think I've been particularly anti-rondo? I've largely glossed over discussion of you tbh, like ig you could be a wolf since ppl seem paranoid but you've had a fairly solid slate of contribution afaict.

Break in case of F3 with Alison/Nutella/Mac

Spoiler: show

Weirdly as much as I get abrasive with Mac and Alison this pings me more than any confrontation I have with them. It feels like you know I am town and are happy to let them murder me and point out that you knew I was town the whole time and they should have listened to you.

No, I just have close to no read of you and am honestly a little afraid to confront that

[Scotty]

I am announcing it now. If it comes down to me vs Seanzie I am not going to selfpres because you guys had your chance to jump on board with me yesterday and first half of today. Alison is campaigning against it and Nutella for so I will let you sort it out. Probably wont self pres onto Marmot. Too cute

This seems…illogically fatalistic

[nutella]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

Like actually open up Sean's iso and view that it is shit.

Is this in response to my most recent challenge? I'd like to hear fresh, not frozen, responses. What about my ISO is bad? Who exactly is this town KP I can't coexist with? Why do you suspect me?

Show me something in your iso that is an original thought that is not about me or ilario.

[nutella]

It's entirely fluff and random statements with absolutely nothing behind them. You don't know what to say because you're a wolf and not caring to solve.

[nutella]

Like I actually don't know what your stances are on any other players either lol. I don't think you have any. You are only replying to things that are easy to reply to and not engaging for fear of getting trapped in TMI.

[Seanzie]

Like I actually don't know what your stances are on any other players either lol. I don't think you have any. You are only replying to things that are easy to reply to and not engaging for fear of getting trapped in TMI.

Meh, okay.

[EnderWiggin]

Thats valid Alison.

I also have similar feelings towards Rondo as you.

I was here first, get in line.

[RondoDimBuckle]

This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him.

Could be she is trying to hide a fox among the chickens for her flip and if one of them is wolf and one is town it would be seanzie/creature(town) for me

Ye exactly this

since when do you agree with me and not want to burn me?

I don't think I've been particularly anti-rondo? I've largely glossed over discussion of you tbh, like ig you could be a wolf since ppl seem paranoid but you've had a fairly solid slate of contribution afaict.

Break in case of F3 with Alison/Nutella/Mac

Spoiler: show

Weirdly as much as I get abrasive with Mac and Alison this pings me more than any confrontation I have with them. It feels like you know I am town and are happy to let them murder me and point out that you knew I was town the whole time and they should have listened to you.

No, I just have close to no read of you and am honestly a little afraid to confront that

why? Ask Porscha or Neon or Lily, I am not that scary. Dont ask SVS

Spoiler: show

this is a joke

Mac will flip flop either way. Depends on his mood toward me at the moment.

[Seanzie]

Like I actually don't know what your stances are on any other players either lol. I don't think you have any. You are only replying to things that are easy to reply to and not engaging for fear of getting trapped in TMI.

Meh, okay.

Who should I vote for? You don't like the Marmot wagon, right?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am announcing it now. If it comes down to me vs Seanzie I am not going to selfpres because you guys had your chance to jump on board with me yesterday and first half of today. Alison is campaigning against it and Nutella for so I will let you sort it out. Probably wont self pres onto Marmot. Too cute

This seems…illogically fatalistic

I still believe there is no chance I go over today. I just dont want people expecting certain behaviours from me EOD

[Golden]

Seanzie and you are like next tier up from those mentioned… light town reads, would not rule out of being wolves but not looking at you as a better elim option that those on the list.

Those on the list are there because… I don’t have a town read on them. Everyone not mentioned I have at least a slim townread on.

What is the difference between a light townread and a slim townread?

There is none. You’re light AND slim.

[RondoDimBuckle]

My catchup was long and boring and largely skimmed. My main conclusion is that I no longer have a townread on Rondo because it is starting to feel like he is not just causing chaos to be a goblin but instead using it as a strategic lever to undermine a POE I believe in. And honestly even if he is town he's kinda a liability to town cohesion. Attacking Mac for agreeing with Dizzy's reads makes very little sense to me and felt more like a forcible attempt to shove Dizzy back in the POE than an actual read on Mac.

I wasnt actually attacking mac there btw I was seeing other peoples reactions to it. Mostly Dizzy's Nutellas was interesting though.

[MacDougall]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Seanzie]

Seanzie and you are like next tier up from those mentioned… light town reads, would not rule out of being wolves but not looking at you as a better elim option that those on the list.

Those on the list are there because… I don’t have a town read on them. Everyone not mentioned I have at least a slim townread on.

What is the difference between a light townread and a slim townread?

There is none. You’re light AND slim.

All I want to do is make self deprecating jokes about my weight...

But...

Why did you differentiate if there is no difference?

[nutella]

The person I am tunneling and spearheading a now competitive wagon on asking me to advise who he should vote for his laughable and, excuse my confbias, sus af.

[Golden]

Friendos give marmot another day pls.

@MacDougall @Alison @S~V~S @Scotty @Golden @Party Crasher @Michelle @Sloonei

Please, it's clear they simply didn't have time today and will participate in earnest when they can, and I do believe they are likely just town and will be very helpful when available. Let's get Seanzie today, the fact no one is following me there despite nothing about him looking town just makes me more confident

I am not currently expecting to end the day voting marmot.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

[Golden]

Guillo, apologies for being over-salty... but really, like... I think Alison is town because she is putting in masses of effort to solve the game. It's that simple.

Are you hard core sure there is only one mafia though? It's easy (well easier) to look town hunty when there's another team to target. Lots of players for there to only be one team but that might me my OS mind.

Not hard core sure, no, but better to wait for proof for solving purposes rather than just… not townhunt.

[Golden]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

*tap tap tap*

Go on..

I don’t think it’s right to ask people to elaborate on your cuteness.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also Ender has made up his mind there is at most a 15% chance I get him to change his mind on me. But that just makes this fun

[Seanzie]

The person I am tunneling and spearheading a now competitive wagon on asking me to advise who he should vote for his laughable and, excuse my confbias, sus af.

Apparently I am competitive. I missed that.

Y'all do you. After you figure shiz out, I wouldn't mind input on who I should shoot.

[EnderWiggin]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

You play games with me all the time trying to elicit responses. Ignoring me was another new one. That's NAI for you.

You know what I was/am going to call you out on?

Where's the poor "Rondo thinking about Ender's reads and engaging them" that you always do?

If you're town, what happened to ye olde "I am being tinfoil-y but Ender is telling me no."

[Scotty]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Scotty]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

*tap tap tap*

Go on..

I don’t think it’s right to ask people to elaborate on your cuteness.

Don’t make me DM you cute pics golden

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

You play games with me all the time trying to elicit responses. Ignoring me was another new one. That's NAI for you.

You know what I was/am going to call you out on?

Where's the poor "Rondo thinking about Ender's reads and engaging them" that you always do?

If you're town, what happened to ye olde "I am being tinfoil-y but Ender is telling me no."

no tinfoil this game. Fresh out at the tinfoil store

[Golden]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

The last time I defended Seanzie in earnest and he was town, people suspected him for similar reasons.

For me the thing that is missing is… why is this AI for *seanzie* specifically.

I do think two of the kills coming from mafia as opposed to a 5/1 split is believable and the illario kill is the most likely of the five to be a second mafia kill, or perhaps a 3p kill… so I have reasons to worry about Seanzie. Thread Seanzie feels very consistent with town Seanzie to me though. That’s the part I’m trying to work through.

[Seanzie]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

The last time I defended Seanzie in earnest and he was town, people suspected him for similar reasons.

For me the thing that is missing is… why is this AI for *seanzie* specifically.

I do think two of the kills coming from mafia as opposed to a 5/1 split is believable and the illario kill is the most likely of the five to be a second mafia kill, or perhaps a 3p kill… so I have reasons to worry about Seanzie. Thread Seanzie feels very consistent with town Seanzie to me though. That’s the part I’m trying to work through.

I shouldn't, I'm way off my town game.

[Golden]

Like actually open up Sean's iso and view that it is shit.

He did actually do what I asked to form a read on Kate and the way he went to the wrong place the first time and went at me then actually did spit the difference and back off when he had it right felt genuinely solvey to me.

[nutella]

Meh. Like it's possible he's being this passive as town but if he is actually town KP he should step it up.

[Seanzie]

Meh. Like it's possible he's being this passive as town but if he is actually town KP he should step it up.

Presumably this is still about me. Take your time.

[MacDougall]

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

[EnderWiggin]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

You play games with me all the time trying to elicit responses. Ignoring me was another new one. That's NAI for you.

You know what I was/am going to call you out on?

Where's the poor "Rondo thinking about Ender's reads and engaging them" that you always do?

If you're town, what happened to ye olde "I am being tinfoil-y but Ender is telling me no."

no tinfoil this game. Fresh out at the tinfoil store

You can't say that wearing that stupid tinfoil hat about Mac.

[Scotty]

Meh. Like it's possible he's being this passive as town but if he is actually town KP he should step it up.

Does the fact that he’s threatened to shoot you tonite weigh into your decision at all?

[Seanzie]

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

Why don't you have a profile picture?

[Seanzie]

Meh. Like it's possible he's being this passive as town but if he is actually town KP he should step it up.

Does the fact that he’s threatened to shoot you tonite weigh into your decision at all?

I'm not going to shoot Nutella. Regardless of how good the Nutella Wolfem' picture is.

[Golden]

Seanzie and you are like next tier up from those mentioned… light town reads, would not rule out of being wolves but not looking at you as a better elim option that those on the list.

Those on the list are there because… I don’t have a town read on them. Everyone not mentioned I have at least a slim townread on.

What is the difference between a light townread and a slim townread?

There is none. You’re light AND slim.

All I want to do is make self deprecating jokes about my weight...

But...

Why did you differentiate if there is no difference?

I don’t differentiate. I just used different words that mean the same thing. I’m not thinking that hard about my word usage.

[Golden]

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

That’s not what you told me last night.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

You play games with me all the time trying to elicit responses. Ignoring me was another new one. That's NAI for you.

You know what I was/am going to call you out on?

Where's the poor "Rondo thinking about Ender's reads and engaging them" that you always do?

If you're town, what happened to ye olde "I am being tinfoil-y but Ender is telling me no."

no tinfoil this game. Fresh out at the tinfoil store

You can't say that wearing that stupid tinfoil hat about Mac.

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

What are you talking about he is MU's best town

[Seanzie]

I might shoot Golden.

[MacDougall]

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

That’s not what you told me last night.

I have DID and you're talking to a different Mac today.

[EnderWiggin]

Dear Rondo. My feelings towards you are not influenced by mood they are influenced by posts you make and arguments others make that are persuasive.

At present I have paid close attention to posts Ender has quoted of yours he disliked and have noted you are ignoring him largely. I don't like it.

As always I am offset. This time it's because you have townie entitlement and you do have the inquisitiveness of someone attempting to solve.

You may be a lost wolf or 3p. Wouldn't surprise me.

Hahaha I was hoping Ender would call me out for ignoring him first. I was going to respond "Where was the question in any of your posts?" but now I gotta respond to this and save my sass for another post

I am town. Or am I?

You play games with me all the time trying to elicit responses. Ignoring me was another new one. That's NAI for you.

You know what I was/am going to call you out on?

Where's the poor "Rondo thinking about Ender's reads and engaging them" that you always do?

If you're town, what happened to ye olde "I am being tinfoil-y but Ender is telling me no."

no tinfoil this game. Fresh out at the tinfoil store

You can't say that wearing that stupid tinfoil hat about Mac.

Friends need I remind you that you are dealing with reigning MU Best Town here. My reads are lit and better than yours.

What are you talking about he is MU's best town

We're out in the boondocks here boy

[Alison]

I might shoot Golden.

I will policy you if you do this. Shoot in the POE if you are town.