The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:19 pm I may as well claim as well since that'll put the bullet between the tracker and the cop.

N1 Gavi didn't go anywhere
N2 Luckbox returned no result (likely because of their murder)

Gavi = Gira?
Or
Gavi = Gavial

@Wisp
Remember what I said Day 2 about Alison.
They are deep wolf that is trying to push LHF.
Think about it.

If they thought I was wolf with Miz why not vote me?
Why not vote you?

Their goal is to get LHF.

Also if you really think I’m scum with Miz why didn’t I perform the kill?
According to the Tracker I didn’t visit anyone.

Ok so while I was at work I was thinking of the possibility that Alison is bussing Mizery and I think if that is the case it’s a good play on their part but fucks us (especially me) over.
Because in that case:
Mizery goes over (-) Alison is in a great position tomorrow and I’m in the worst one i had all game
Alison goes over (-) they kill me and Wisp votes Gira and we lose.

@Wisp
Remember if I die tonight, don’t instantly vote Gira, make sure it isn’t Mizery! Treat them as equals don’t just lock town Miz because Alison voted them.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:26 pmim not a wolf

Ok then let me make this very clear.

It’s Alison and Gira or Miz and Me.

I’m not a wolf.
Therefore Miz isn’t a wolf.

Therefore Alison and Gira is a wolf.

I also have to get back to work now, take your time and think this through, thank you!

Falcon would definitely have voted Alison with me.

Btw if I was scum with Miz I’d never kill Falcon over Gira/Wisp.

@Wisp
@Gira

If either of you are wolf just hammer and end.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:23 pm idk why Nanook died, the only thing I have is that you called him ur cult
and he died, your cult seemed to get targeted for some odd reason

Yeah even Tess pushed my cult bud Ender.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:20 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:16 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:39 pm LC was undecided and there was no way to know where he would vote.

Therefore either Gira was willing to let his partner die over Dizzy or Gira is town.

It is probably the latter.

I am going to treat Wisp as confirmed town because if they were scum they wouldn't bother with this slowrolling bullshit. I gave them the biggest excuse in the world to vote and push me with Gavial waiting to hammer and they didn't do it. If they were scum they could have won by now. Also if they were scum they would probably have let Tess self hammer instead of doing the hammer themselves.

I believe it has to be Mizery/Gavial knowing I am town. One of me/Mizery is confirmed to be scum so if either of you need help getting there on me/Mizery let me know and I'll furnish a case.
Oh yes I totally help Ender and Buss Tess there.
Also you have a way higher chance to have a scum equity with Tess then Mizery.

If I got here sooner I was gonna post the following:

Give me one reason I shouldn’t vote Alison right now!
(Then ping everyone alive except me and Alison.)
Gavial is lying.

If he was town he wouldn't say this, he would just vote me.

LOL

I planned on voting you later but at this point I think I’ll just vote you and if it is Miz and someone else they can have the win.

You aren’t town, you are powerwolfing and I am convinced!

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why else did Nanook fucking die?
Think man think!

Nanook’s EoD was hinting he would have been ok with an Alison CFD and Alison didn’t want that and killed Nanook.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:18 pm There is no distinction anywhere in your iso as to why Ender suddenly joined your "cult"
and your cult were most of the night targets
honestly if it wasn't for you being Arrow, I'd probably had locked u in as wolf for somehow concluding that Tess was the liar
based off a towncore read you never even explained

Why as scum would I have saved Ender there instead of place no vote or sheep Tess on Ender?

I had a very confident read on him and frankly was the only one that had that kinda read.

@Wisp
Look at the way Alison pushed LC!
It was power wolf trying to get LHF!

Gira and Alison went from SRing each other Day 1 to conveniently Lock towning each other in the same day phase.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:35 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:04 pm lol there's more votes on Alison than LC now

kinda yikes
i think this is a pretty telling post relative to how strongly tess defended mizery

They defended Alison TF.

@Wisp
I’m telling you the team is Gira/Alison/Tess as I’ve been saying.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:39 pm LC was undecided and there was no way to know where he would vote.

Therefore either Gira was willing to let his partner die over Dizzy or Gira is town.

It is probably the latter.

I am going to treat Wisp as confirmed town because if they were scum they wouldn't bother with this slowrolling bullshit. I gave them the biggest excuse in the world to vote and push me with Gavial waiting to hammer and they didn't do it. If they were scum they could have won by now. Also if they were scum they would probably have let Tess self hammer instead of doing the hammer themselves.

I believe it has to be Mizery/Gavial knowing I am town. One of me/Mizery is confirmed to be scum so if either of you need help getting there on me/Mizery let me know and I'll furnish a case.

Oh yes I totally help Ender and Buss Tess there.
Also you have a way higher chance to have a scum equity with Tess then Mizery.

If I got here sooner I was gonna post the following:

Give me one reason I shouldn’t vote Alison right now!
(Then ping everyone alive except me and Alison.)

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:27 pm hi

posting to confirm the game isn't over yet

Ha jokes on you it’s me and wisp and we have been stalling this game!

No but in all honesty I’m probably gonna vote Alison because they shouldn’t have survived this long at all.

Wisp surviving this long as well is concerning and me surviving just means scum can’t get enough of me.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:02 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Alright now here’s what you do next:
[VOTE: Tess] aubergine

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:50 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:49 am @falcon45ca
@Gira
@Mizery
@DrWilgy

You 4 signed up for this game!
Please participate more!

I don’t like to see 3 pages long of conversation with only 3 players.
Especially when 2 of them are 1v1 Thunderdome.
have you heard of sleeping

No I don’t think I have.

What’s that? Could you explain it to me?

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:53 pm what if i hammer lol

Your scum lol.

I would also like to request @Mizery and @Gira to make a vote today on either Tess or Ender.
If you don’t vote within the Thunderdome, or don’t vote at all. Cough Cough Gira Cough Cough.
Then your probably just most likely wolf.

Wisp gets a pass since he did talk just before the 3 pages long conversation.

@falcon45ca
@Gira
@Mizery
@DrWilgy

You 4 signed up for this game!
Please participate more!

I don’t like to see 3 pages long of conversation with only 3 players.
Especially when 2 of them are 1v1 Thunderdome.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:29 am im going through enders iso right now, and I am skipping through all his poems

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:30 am But my poems are the best part.

How dare you wisp!

Your just as worse as Alison.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:25 am Just going to put it out there:
Anyone who spends time going "No way I'd be paired with x" isn't going to get anywhere with me just because self-meta is a slippery slope.

Prove your innocence with your solving of the gamestate and alignments.

Yeah exactly like I have!

Y’all Let me be your inspiration!

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:22 am Gav is not a real person. I randed hated townie and he is simply there to help implement my role.

Your Welcome.

But you read your Rolecard wrong it says “hated goon”.

Day 1*

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:20 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:15 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:11 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:08 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:07 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 am fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?
Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.
Can you refute it though?
First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.
Who do you have me paired with?
Tess.

1 of Wisp/Gira.

Maaaaaaaaaybe Miz.
Wisp and Gira are both hard spewed not partnered with me from D1. Miz has been consistently siding against me.

That’s false.
We all know I could do exactly what you did say 1 with Tony.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:18 am town cred won't do her any good against Arrow that's for sure
What is Arrow

The equivalent of Gavial.

tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:11 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 am fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?
why aren't you with Ender

Because they are with you.

I mean I understand me because no one can be aligned with me.
Ender your obviously not aligned with.
Mizery I suppose can’t be aligned with you because you probably vote Dizzy over them during Day 1.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 am fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Why is Gira and Wisp out of consideration?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:28 pm I want this on record:
No matter who gets flipped today

Once you've finally got around to flipping Tess.

Flip Alison next.

Agreed!

Damn what a game play by wolves.
I’m still getting Alison out though even if I have to vote her from my grave.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:17 pm Oh, wait, maybe he was blocked lmao.

I wonder how long Tess knew.

Didn’t he say he tracked Luck but it didn’t go through N2?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:14 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:12 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:34 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:27 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:26 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:24 pm mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one
I think I'm a wolf
I don't.
then who do you think is a wolf
You. :^)

And 2 of Gira/Wisp/Alison.

The rest I have reasons to townread.

But I still need to actually ISO for links. That happens after work tho, so not now.
I agree with this PoE for tomorrow.
@DrWilgy
Just to make sure maybe Track Falcon or Mizery just in case something is off here.
Tess is never roleblocker.

Roleblocker makes Wilgy impotent.

Ah yes almost forgot about Roleblocker.
Least we know it ain’t Gira as that’s I think who Wigly tracked N1 unless he was saying he tracked me N1 idk.

Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:52 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine

As much as I really wanna join you on that.
We need to vote Tess today and then tomorrow we can get Alison.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:34 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:27 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:26 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:24 pm mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one
I think I'm a wolf
I don't.
then who do you think is a wolf
You. :^)

And 2 of Gira/Wisp/Alison.

The rest I have reasons to townread.

But I still need to actually ISO for links. That happens after work tho, so not now.

I agree with this PoE for tomorrow.
@DrWilgy
Just to make sure maybe Track Falcon or Mizery just in case something is off here.

Plus their actions together day 1 shows they aren’t aligned.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:24 pm mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one

I think I’m just gonna lock Mizery town if Tess flips Wolf.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:53 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:52 pm [VOTE: wigly] aubergine
wtf are you voting wilgy for

I think this entire day must have confused them.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:09 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:51 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:45 pm I mean if this is your attempt.to discredit Tess after the shit storm of a read on me u gave day 1, then it's not doing much for me
Lmao.

You sure changed your tune from "Ender can't be a wolf with that re-eval."
You don’t think it’s possible for an Alison/Wisp team do you?
I am definitely considering Wisp.

He has been underwhelming since the re-eval that flipped me to him being town.

I mean Alison/Tess could be with Wisp instead of Gira.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:06 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:04 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:34 pm or, is going to be--the rest will be finding your partners but I don't think that'll be too hard tbh
I’m curious.
Who do you think their partners are?
most likely gira, otherwise unsure

Nah that’s yours and Alison’s partner.

The only logical team for me to be in is maybe You/Me and either Falcon or Mizery.
Which obviously isn’t the case.

Lol trust me there ain’t no way I’m scum here.
Who would I even be with? Lol.

Thinks I’m “voting with my scum buddy”.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:01 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:00 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:56 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:51 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:43 pm I want everyone to do an exercise:

You're in a game. In a CC battle.

Your opponent, who you KNOW is wolf, says something you think is a bad read like, idk, "Wiml is good turtle".

You know that person WILL be flipped wolf today or tomorrow.

Do you really care to try and invalidate that read, knowing their flip will invalidate it for you?
ugh, I forget sometimes that being intentionally obtuse is a wolves refuge

convincing people on yourself, which is important, doesn't involve simple and only convincing people that things you do are wolfy

it involves showing fully, past just the consideration of tess vs ender or whatever such thing, that I am a town and x people are wolves

to do such involves convincing people too that what I say is correct and what you say is wrong--even if I don't point it out to go "this opinion is wolfy in itself." Convincing someone that my views of the game--such as the thing with gavial I said--are correct, IS important

I think that should obvious to everyone and I explained it properly
1. Because I feel like being pedantic:
Wolves = plural wolf. Wolf's = Belonging to wolf. Wolf's Refuge is the correct terminology.

2. The Gavial read is purely based on meta and previous interactions. Your response is the same. Neither is proving anything and neither is a decisive blow in terms of "I am right".

Also as a side note:
Proving someone has an incorrect read isn't even wolfy in the first place. LC has incorrect reads all the time but it doesn't make him wolfy. Even if you were right on your Gavial meta (Which I could be wrong? Like I'm pretty sure my meta dive included fallout and I didn't see anything near this game's level of pushing between w/w but it's not impossible I'm wrong on this.) that proves nothing towards me being wolfy.
neither you or I are LC, and someone living in a world that isn't possible/is extremely unlikely is imo a good wolf tell and involves their reads being wrong--mostly for a specific reason

this too btw can be construed as "trying to convince you," but I'm not, I know you're not going to be convinced, I'm arguing so the people who read the thread can see and consider it

same shit
So you think Gavial is a likely wolf?

Yeah she must think I’m wolf with you.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:51 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:45 pm I mean if this is your attempt.to discredit Tess after the shit storm of a read on me u gave day 1, then it's not doing much for me
Lmao.

You sure changed your tune from "Ender can't be a wolf with that re-eval."

You don’t think it’s possible for an Alison/Wisp team do you?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:41 pm Like seriously:
Why would someone care about a confirmed wolf's read accuracy?

If I say "Gavial is lock town" and then flip red, is anyone gonna look back and say "Gavial is lock town" because of my meta? No, they'd only say that because they think I spewed him town.

At which point it's wifom.

Yeah I honestly agree with that read there.
If you just want to just shout it out to everyone that’d be great!

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