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Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:14 pm CWAC - Contribute without actually contributing. Anything that has the "feeling" of moving the game forward without really having an impact. Often comes in the form of questions that don't go anywhere. Wolves and town both do it, but wolves will sometimes do only CWAC and IIoA (information instead of analysis) in hopes that townies don't spot that they really aren't positively impacting the gamestate.

Yes, multitask, that was a typo. TS is not MS, so this is not gospel here, but: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Multitasking. From what I can tell of what Nook wrote, I think it is clear that mafia members could be assigned multiple roles, but they'd only be able to use one role per night (they can use their role and carry the NK on the same night though), so LC is unlikely to take more roles than mafia members (aside from a few edge cases where maybe they took a role useless for scum in order to keep it from town).

Mm, that's a fair point, but I also read it as "PR's" and "Mechanics" being 2 different things that can be picked. I have no idea what mechanics means, but it could be like 4 wolf-sided mechanics that don't overlap with active Actions. Like either role-tied passives, or non-role tied mechanics like idk. D4 all wolf votes are counted as 2. Im just completely spitballing but I feel like in a game that you CAN choose 1-2 wolves only, there'd be some way of doing so without completely botching your wincon

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:57 pm
Was my post where I asked for new-to-TS people's experience level not CWAC? I don't believe you really have this read on me.

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I severely doubt there are 2 mafia when roles don't multisask.

-tbh i missed that post even happening when scrolling back, but i still semi believe it. But it's a reasonable reaction from you (also whats CWAC?)

-what does that mean? u mean multitask? and even then idgi

Also, i kinda believe Axe's argument for him not being picked. I think the "Alison would be picked for sure" is a little bit more of a coinflip for me, since it's pretty well known Lime has a lot of respect for Alison, and he would be aware of that (right?)

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:42 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:36 pm TL;DR: i don't think there's 5-6 maf. Think there might even be 2 if i had to bet tbh
I think your post is interesting.

Regarding your TL;DR a scumteam in a 15 player would typically be 12 town 3 mafia. This would be a usual ratio. If 2 mafia, then the 2 mafia would have to be really strong if this is the case.

that is the implication yes.

I think Limecoke would find it the most interesting if his STACKED team of 2 managed to pull it through

I don't have any hard input on what exact players Limecoke/Brad would pick as mafia or not.

But i do have thoughts.

To balance a game like this the PRs / Mechanics that Lime has available to him must be EXTREMELY strong/interesting. Otherwise there would be no point in picking them over actual extra players in the mafia team. Therefore I strongly believe Limecoke couldn't resist picking at least 2+ of those PR / mechanics that he found the most alure towards, to see how they played out while he's speccing the game.

If he was gonna play too? Then i could see him just picking the max amount of players if he thought that was +EV, but as a spec? It sounds much more interesting to see if the OP mechanics you picked could work out towards a win than if a huge scumteam could pull it through.

TL;DR: i don't think there's 5-6 maf. Think there might even be 2 if i had to bet tbh

[VOTE: sabiplz] aubergine

im fine with HK wagon too ftr, but I think this is just as good

My spiciest read is that Sean might be TWTBAW

literally just posting "first" and nothing else, and then later popping in with "yeah i can get behind this *votes HK*"

It's far from a solid read, but i kinda believe he'd post *something* else in either of his pop-ins if woofing

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:59 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:57 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:56 pm spoiler looks so goddamn ugly lmao. not using that again
yeah font color inside the spoiler should be different, it's hard to see
anyways I am just trying to wrap my head around the pressure on me and I can sort of see it. I am not particularly good at starting games in general.

Might have been better when I was first starting out because I was constantly on tryhard mode 24/7 cuz I hardly knew what I was doing

you're not below null for me rn. I was a little confused by your straight up 'lie' (that's a strong word), but it's not something it's not a lie I wanna call all that AI, especially after having read your reponse. It was just weird (just as your self-meta post).

You MIGHT even be slightly above null for me, but i'll wait a bit before admitting that to myself (don't tell future me i wrote this)

spoiler looks so goddamn ugly lmao. not using that again

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this is a weird post

idk if scummy though

Yeah i mean, vibing is what we need rn to get things rolling, hard to go tryhard mode with 50 posts in the thread

And to your response... *fair enough*

I'm gonna be around the next couple of hours if any1 wanna vibe

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:01 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 pm
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm I can get behind the early good vibes on Mr. Marmot
It's mainly the "tbh lol" following his Cape vote. It's clearly referencing some thought-process of his that he's hasn't put in the thread yet (which is Rand V in my head)
Again, this hardly makes sense to me. How does saying "tbh lol" signify some kind of thought process that Marmot has?

One doesn't say "tbh lol" without it being referring to something specific (at least i can't see myself doing that). And he hasn't said anything specific regarding you in the thread

It's just kinda randomly thrown out there. It doesn't fit if you're just looking at what's in the thread, so i assume it's referring to something in his own head

I know it's not a super standard read of mine, but it's a thing

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:59 am [VOTE: Cape] aubergine

tbh lol
Wagon me more, it fuels me

Does it?

in the 2 games we've played together (FAM and the lightgame) it hasn't felt like you're one of the players who thrive of getting pushed and read people based on their handling of you. So... I'm not sure I believe this? Wanna talk about your mindset here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:25 am [VOTE: HK] aubergine is a wolf this game and is to be yeeted at last light.

This is an imperial decree and shall not be revoked.

i'm getting the weakest of townleans from this post

So

N0: SpaceDaisy

Slight V: Marmot

Sliiightly above rand: Wigly, Alison

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm I can get behind the early good vibes on Mr. Marmot

It's mainly the "tbh lol" following his Cape vote. It's clearly referencing some thought-process of his that he's hasn't put in the thread yet (which is Rand V in my head)

I can get behind the early good vibes on Mr. Marmot

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:24 am
I used to claim doctor d1 every game

you and Wisdom might make good friends tbh

also hi!

My instinct here would be to just throw out a read to get stuff popping a little more, but I don't rly have one yet

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:15 pm @Cape90 @Sabiplz since you both are new here, can you let me know your mafia experience (approx number of games/years played), where you're from, and who you know on this playerlist?

I've been playing a little over two years, probably played 50+ games in that time, I'm from MafC but mostly play her on TS, and I know everyone on the playerslist (including the two coaches) except you two and Shending_Help.

Since I'm new here as well, I'll answer this

I started forum mafia back in 2016 on Mafia Universe (nick: SwedishSkumbag) , and I've played maybe 50-70 regular games since then. Took a 3 ish year break between 2019 until like last month, so definitely feeling a lot of rust, and I'm in the middle of trying to find my new playstyle since I'm trying to change some stuff of how I played back then.

Excited to play with you!

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:30 am Good thing to know for everyone who's bad at reading openings: There's a post cap of 60!

I'm not sure I get the whole draft system but there can be up to 6 wolves? (Even though the pick order says 8) 6/15 is still a lot.

I don't know how much we are allowed to talk about the drafting? I have thoughts!

Oh, and n0 Dunya!

Glad I wasn't alone there!

Hello everyone ^^

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