The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:03 pm I'm going to shoot mafia in the face, and I will have my redemption arc.

But first, please @ me with you suggestion of who to shoot. Only one suggestion.

I still believe resolving 112 by vig is better than putting thread work into solving them in thread.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:32 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:26 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:17 pm

Spoiler: show

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:00 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:59 pm Oh. Boooring.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:58 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine


Lmao gotta love flash wagons these never go wrong

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:58 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Someone kill Marmot

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:57 pm [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

no time for marmot cfd i think

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:57 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:56 pm MARMOT IS REFUSING TO VOTE MAC SO THEY DONT DIE. THEY ARE IGNORING IT. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH HUMOR BY SELF-VOTING

MARMOT IS OUTED WOLF

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:55 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

CFD FOR ALISON THATS WHAT QUEEN ALISON WOULD HAVE WANTED

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:55 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 pm

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

If that's a wolfclaim then that's pretty much appreciated by me.

I couldn't resist joining the chain


But for realz

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm @Sloonei, thanks!

OK, I haven't heard from him, so I doubt he'll get wagoned at this point, so

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:45 pm [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

*looks at @Marmot*

*taps the seat next to me*

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:40 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

I'm parking here. That he's been let to coast today by the mafia means he is one.

112 also.

sure [VOTE: HK ] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:38 pm Bleh

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:26 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:21 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:15 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:15 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:13 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Let's keep things competitive.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:11 pm Ok Seanzie the folk have spoken: you have the wolfiest ISO in history

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:09 pm Sean/SVS/Rondo wagons?

I vote Sean


[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:03 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

-t

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

I'm parking here. That he's been let to coast today by the mafia means he is one.

112 also.

You know Mac and Scotty wanted me to vote for Mac so he could maybe kill me, right? They were trying to get the whole POE to do that, and I'm the only one who did.

So how do you interpret those actions?

If Mac has more than a certain number of voters, he can shoot one of them. They were trying to get people they suspected to submit to this as a test. How else is there to interpret it?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:31 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:25 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:22 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:19 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:08 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:07 pm

Let it be clear, Rondo is still in my PoE.

Ender should probably not be though.

What does your POE look like?

I wonder who radish is trying to save?

@Golden any guesses?

What are you implying here?

I'm implying that radishes is throwing himself under the bus to save a teammate who may be under less pressure, take the spotlight away.

Why do you keep pretending you don't know what I'm saying?

If MR gets shot, we can still wagon Marmot. I'm not sure that MR throws himself under the bus to save a teammate this way....if anything, if MR flips Maf, I'm curious about his comment re: letting 112 play longer

if MR flips wolf does that make Marmot, more or less likely to be wolf/town. Same question if MR flips town

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:26 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:17 pm

Spoiler: show

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:00 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:59 pm Oh. Boooring.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:58 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine


Lmao gotta love flash wagons these never go wrong

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:58 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Someone kill Marmot

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:57 pm [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

no time for marmot cfd i think

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:57 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:56 pm MARMOT IS REFUSING TO VOTE MAC SO THEY DONT DIE. THEY ARE IGNORING IT. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH HUMOR BY SELF-VOTING

MARMOT IS OUTED WOLF

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:55 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

CFD FOR ALISON THATS WHAT QUEEN ALISON WOULD HAVE WANTED

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:55 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

If that's a wolfclaim then that's pretty much appreciated by me.

I couldn't resist joining the chain


But for realz

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm @Sloonei, thanks!

OK, I haven't heard from him, so I doubt he'll get wagoned at this point, so

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:45 pm [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

*looks at @Marmot*

*taps the seat next to me*

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:40 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

I'm parking here. That he's been let to coast today by the mafia means he is one.

112 also.

sure [VOTE: HK ] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:38 pm Bleh

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:26 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:21 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:15 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:15 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:13 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Let's keep things competitive.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:12 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:11 pm Ok Seanzie the folk have spoken: you have the wolfiest ISO in history

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:09 pm Sean/SVS/Rondo wagons?

I vote Sean


[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:03 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

-t

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

I'm parking here. That he's been let to coast today by the mafia means he is one.

112 also.

You know Mac and Scotty wanted me to vote for Mac so he could maybe kill me, right? They were trying to get the whole POE to do that, and I'm the only one who did.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:58 pm 112 is definitely not mafia team. If you need me to spell it out I will but they are cleared imo.

Are you okay?


Since you literally just spelled it out see

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:58 pm 112 is definitely not mafia team

But, seriously why and what do you think about Hk? The other super slammed

I don't understand what you're giving me slack for here?

112 is not mafia, team.

112 and MR's interactions are clearing for 112 imo.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:56 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Why

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:44 pm there's more than 4 soup mafia

so it cant be 2 identical sized mafia teams

1 big mafia team, maybe lost wolves aligned with soup, maybe a small 3p faction (fewer than 5 people)

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

i thought MR's last post about 112 "let 112 play a little longer" wasn't w/w. i felt like 112 is non-soup mafia for it and MR was trying to wifom us into sussing her

-tu

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:42 pm A shot rings out!

@Master Radishes has died. They flip SOUP MAFIA

**Vanilla Soup**

Vanilla soup? Yuck. Anyways you have no powers, good luck good luck.

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ DrWilgy
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Golden
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ Kate
@ Lilypetal
@ MacDougall
@ Marmot
@ Michelle
@ Neon
@ Party Crasher
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ S~V~S
@ Scotty
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ Urist

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:27 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:26 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:25 pm master radishes
5
21%


Voters: Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Party Crasher, Marmot, Michelle

If radishes is scum then there is no way all of these people are town

I have concerns re: Marmot & Lily out of that list

I'd be more concerned about Party Crashers really

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:25 pm master radishes
5
21%


Voters: Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Party Crasher, Marmot, Michelle

If radishes is scum then there is no way all of these people are town

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:22 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:19 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:08 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?

Let it be clear, Rondo is still in my PoE.

Ender should probably not be though.

What does your POE look like?

I wonder who radish is trying to save?

@Golden any guesses?

What are you implying here?

I'm implying that radishes is throwing himself under the bus to save a teammate who may be under less pressure, take the spotlight away.

Why do you keep pretending you don't know what I'm saying?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:19 pm @sig If you weren't aware, GOC two years ago, we eliminated the mafia team, was not told they were gone and then kept on hunting. Alison was claimed 3p in thread, claiming to be harmless. And I had went through everyone and was CONVINCED everyone was town and that we just had to kill Alison to win. However @tutuu and other little goblins were like "Noooo, but let Alison make her wincon! She's harmless!" So we lost, even though we totally destroyed the mafia. AND I TOLD EVERYONE TO FUCKING VOTE ALISON. I TOLD THEM. I WILL NEVER GET OVER IT I SWEAR

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:33 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:29 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:27 pm Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:27 pm Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:09 pm Honestly I still can see Golden being a wolf here independent of IAWY

if I squint I can see a clusterfuck of a world where iawy and mac are both town. mostly I'm on iawy b/c of the whole sabi thing.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:12 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:48 pm I hop off iawy to avoid ties

iawy is mafia

seems that way lets get him
[VOTE: iawy] aubergine

when in doubt sheep mac

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:54 pm What's with Hollowkatt voting off wagons?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:34 am Ladies and gentlemen, a world first. I am going to let you into the mind of Macdougall like never before ... it's TRUSTFALL TIME, featuring, myself arguing with myself! I do hope to entertain you!

If this player was town, what would be the reason? And why is that argument really shit at the same time?

112 - 112 has felt like a player who has no teammates. They seem to lack TMI. They also shielded Hollowkatt early on, who has at least a small amount of Alison spew going for him.
Sure but they are also not trying to solve the game, and can be a level 1 slankwolf.
That is true, they are probably fairly hard null without closer analysis.
I would agree!

DrWilgy - DrWilgy's posts have not actively pinged me, or anyone really. There's nobody in the game who seems to have an axe to grind and wants to push him.
Yes, and why haven't the wolves actually drawn attention to his lack of production. What is the benefit to the mafia of not attempting to make someone who is not present a viable option.
Honestly the mafia have had their work cut out for them dealing with a fairly robust town, yesterday there was mafia in the POE and they died, it's not like they really would have felt all that comfortable trying to bring attention to new candidates in a way that was very persuasive.
True, you may have a point. Perhaps it's worth checking if anyone at all attempted to make Wilgy a suspect. Because I'd expect at least a LITTLE nibble at it from Alison or another wolf or two.
Agreed!

Dyslexicon - Dyslexicon has acted at times like a voice of reason. They are quite a calming influence on the thread.
But they tried to save Seanzie and undermine your push on Alison.
Yes well that also is probably a bit too sloppy for a wolf of Dyslexicon's skill level.
That's being generous, Dyslexicon is a good wolf, and good wolves understand that defending mafia teammmates when you have credibility is the most +ev thing you can do as a wolf)
You may have a point my good sir!

EnderWiggin - Ender has seemed to sincerely believe that Rondo is mafia. He has made that his near permanent axe to grind, and regardless of Rondo's alignment, Rondo's point of that boxing Ender in in the event of his flip being town, is a good one.
Yes but Rondo is town, and Ender has done nothing but push a town, which is wolfy, again you're being too generous.
Maybe so, maybe so.

falcon45ca - Falcon has had really good reads. He's pushed many of the wolves and isn't really doing so from a deepwolf position.
He's done this before.
True.
It's literally how he wins games as mafia. He has one of the highest mafia winrates on Syndicate.
Yeah but you're being paranoid. He just has good reads.
Does he really have this good of a radar as town, he's hardly posted so he's probably paid no attention to the game. Why are his reads so good?


Golden - Golden's wim and level of solving is very high. He is probably just town on play. He also has some pretty good Alison antispew going for him.
He also worked pretty hard to try to get SVS over instead of Seanzie (and probably other wolves), and SVS is probably town. He also was a strong supporter of Alison being in the towncore.
Seanzie also didn't try to push SVS when she was quite viable, and Alison also didn't push SVS when she could have ... you also thought Alison was town for the most part. Golden showed some signs of scepticism towards Alison, and he also openly conflicted with her on Kate.
Well... we'll get to SVS later. I think it's probably mostly paranoia to continue suspecting Golden so imma let it go.

Guillotine - He's in his town meta. I don't think he has TMI.
Alison literally pulled him out of your POE. He pushed you egregiously. His interactions with Rondo when they were both pushing you were super unusual.
Yeah she pulled him out but didn't pull Seanzie out because she was the assigned deepwolf of the team and had a pass to bus and townside.
Plausible, yet ... no just plausible honestly.

hollowkatt - Alison tried to persuade you to drop your townshield, which she did successfully, but she didn't push him, which means she was probably doing so in order to get YOU to push HK, which you did, not PUSH him herself, which if she wanted him to get actual pressure, she would do herself so she could get the cred, not leave you with the dirty hands. Also he got super mad and told someone to fuck off.
Hahaha... yeah I got nothing. This argument is solid.

Kate - Kate has okay tone and a shield from Golden that probably should be just sheeped. Also Alison tried to kill her.
Again... point well made.

Lilypetal - Every time Lily is around and someone says anything mean to me she defends me.
She would do that as mafia because you're pocketable and if she pushed you you'd be inclined to see right through it cuz she townreads you accurately all the time, she's done no hunting as town. She is squarely in her wolf meta.
Yeah... when u rite u rite homes.

Macdougall - You are extremely high wim in this game, and in a game that you should be taking a break from mafia in and phoning in which you were at the start, but your enthusiasm for this silly game has meant you cannot help yourself and have lost it, again, this is why this will be the last game you play for a long long time. But it's also very obvious you are town because you are a very significant reason that the mafia lost Seanzie yesterday, Alison is clearly not your partner and you have good spew with Sabi that had no theatre to it. You're obvious mafia, and town with paranoia towards you for fooling them so many times, plus the wolves/3p slots, are the only one really saying otherwise so you can probably stop worrying about it, nobody is going to flip you.
Thanks dad.

Marmot - I think Marmot was an attempted CFD at the last minute that wolves participated in.
He is not out of his wolf range.
His solving has been quite good when he's had the time. Nutella has a great instinct read on Marmot and shielded him hard and died.
Yep. Marmot is town.

master radishes - Radishes feels like a man without a team. He just sort of wanders in, laments not knowing what to do and then tries to figure out where to go. It's agendaless.
Well... you are describing a wolf. Where is his town intent?
Hmmm.
He also voted Marmot at EOD over Seanzie.
Hmmm.

Michelle - She literally just sheeped me all day until like the end and then voted Scotty. I mean I can have bad reads but the amount she did it, she was doing that instead of really attempting to pursue a wolf wincon.
Or a town one. She was trying to pocket you. She's done very little aside from try to pocket you. She ended up voting Scotty who is spewed clear from Alison.
I'm not sure that spew is very reliable.
Maybe not, but you shouldn't trust her. And Alison was actually shielding her with a misrep meta read saying she "wears her alignment on her sleeve" and is in her obvious town meta when you and i both know that she is not actually in her town meta at all.
True, maybe the wolves have all banded together from jump street and said "we're just pocketing Mac". Seanzie completely ignored pushing me which he like never does, Alison shielded me, Sabi pushed me a LITTLE bit but a lot less than usual and I also was pushing her. Maybe it's their entire agenda and why you're alive?
Now you get it!

Neon - Neon shot, an wolf, and has been otherwise shielding you.
Well if the wolf team's agenda is to pocket you, here's one.
Shot, an wolf.
Yes, yes. True. We let those skate. (unless they're sig).

Party Crasher - Lots of good solving from some of the heads, Hydra dissonance, Tutuu being all CFD happy the way she was isn't damning, and Marmot isn't clear so I can't hold that against her. Today particularly vibey solving.
Their solving today was predicated on something that ended up being provably wrong. Your overnight solving had them as lock mafia. Go back there moron.
Hmmm. Okay!

Porscha - Porscha is town.
I agree. Porscha is town.

RondoDimBuckle - Alison tried to chain him to the very specific universe in which Seanzie flipped mafia KP. Seanzie tried to make him the counterwagon.
True, I have no doubt anymore that Rondo is town either. Also maybe Seanzie sticking here and not trying to participate in teh Marmot C/W actually means Marmot was a hit too, maybe the CFD voters are all town?
Plausible. Plausible...

S~V~S - SVS voted you, you could have shot her.
She might be gambitting. In the end you couldn't shoot her cuz she was the only one that voted you.
That's true, Scotty really should have been voting me at EOD and found a reason not to. He's just mafia.
I really do think he is, and Alison spew is unreliable, but this is about SVS.
Yes I think if Scotty is mafia, SVS is probably mafia?
I would agree. They are teammates if one is wolf so too is the other.


Scotty - Alison spew?
Is unreliable, didn't vote you after trying to persuade everyone to vote you. Tried to save Seanzie.
Marmot can be mafia here.
Yes it is actually becoming rather likely that Marmot/Scotty is a w/t dichotomy, and SVS's alignment also hinges on Scott. SVS's alignment will actually tell a fair bit about this game.
I agree.

sig - Sig shot Alison. The end.
Sig is in his wolf meta. He townread her. He can't shoot someone he townreads that's egregious.
He shot Alison. There is no second mafia team. At best he's 3p.
True.
And also you actually think he's in his town meta why are you telling yourself he's in his wolf meta.
Well he's in his wolf meta in terms of his contribution and impact but his actual play has lots of his town notes, paranoia, entitlement.
Yup, so he's a townread.
Yeah i guess so. That's an amazing vig shot. I can scarcely believe he made it.
He is right when he says he plays vig like that. You've seen it.

Sloonei - He's just like thread dad with no agenda.
So he's an obvious 3p lol.
... true actually haha.

Urist - He's been pro mac and seems to believe his reads.
Yeaaaaaaah but he voted Rondo instead of Seanzie, and has been non stop pushing Golden who is probably town... and there was something else you found before and forgot.
Yeahhhh ok.

Okay so after unpacking my thoughts like a single player chess game.

Town unsorted

golden
sig
rondo
guillo
kate
hollowkatt
marmot
neon
porscha

Null/3p/? unsorted

Falcon
Sloonei
112
DrWilgy
Michelle

POE sorted

Scotty
SVS
Party Crasher
Dyslexicon
Lilypetal
Urist

I’m reading from behind again so I’m sorry if this has been discussed or your reads have changed during the night like the mayor from Nightmare before Christmas

I wholly agree I should be in the POE- I don’t have any mech in my favor nor have my reads been particularly good based on the reveals. But don’t suspect me for not ending on you Mac. My vote was on you up until the last minute when no one else but SVs was voting there, so I put my vote to better use since 2 votes in your words don’t do anything

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:07 pm Dizzy is pretty vocal. He is explaining thoughts in depth and making big posts. This is not the type of player you vig. You vote him and try to chop him, generate discussion, etc

U vig the low posters who are posting fluff content

So ill advocate for master radish shot, if not, 112

If we're trying to kill dizzy it has to be the old fashioned way

-t

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:23 pm If this is multi ball, we're not doing as well tbh

3 dead Maf after 2 NF's...I don't care how many teams there may or may not be, I think we're doing fine

9 dead town, 3 mafia, 1 3p is good

We have up to 3 kills today which is great

Mafia seems to lack kp which is great

What sucks for us is how many scummy town there are

We dont have a consensus towncore and towny loud people

If we lose the game i think it will be due to mischopping too many town

-t

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:23 pm If this is multi ball, we're not doing as well tbh

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:52 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:46 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:31 pm I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:46 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:31 pm I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:22 pm Hey @Kate nice to see you with a foothold in the game.

Thanks! I had a long drive this am to and from so I finally caught up!

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:31 pm I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:34 am Ladies and gentlemen, a world first. I am going to let you into the mind of Macdougall like never before ... it's TRUSTFALL TIME, featuring, myself arguing with myself! I do hope to entertain you!

If this player was town, what would be the reason? And why is that argument really shit at the same time?

112 - 112 has felt like a player who has no teammates. They seem to lack TMI. They also shielded Hollowkatt early on, who has at least a small amount of Alison spew going for him.
Sure but they are also not trying to solve the game, and can be a level 1 slankwolf.
That is true, they are probably fairly hard null without closer analysis.
I would agree!

DrWilgy - DrWilgy's posts have not actively pinged me, or anyone really. There's nobody in the game who seems to have an axe to grind and wants to push him.
Yes, and why haven't the wolves actually drawn attention to his lack of production. What is the benefit to the mafia of not attempting to make someone who is not present a viable option.
Honestly the mafia have had their work cut out for them dealing with a fairly robust town, yesterday there was mafia in the POE and they died, it's not like they really would have felt all that comfortable trying to bring attention to new candidates in a way that was very persuasive.
True, you may have a point. Perhaps it's worth checking if anyone at all attempted to make Wilgy a suspect. Because I'd expect at least a LITTLE nibble at it from Alison or another wolf or two.
Agreed!

Dyslexicon - Dyslexicon has acted at times like a voice of reason. They are quite a calming influence on the thread.
But they tried to save Seanzie and undermine your push on Alison.
Yes well that also is probably a bit too sloppy for a wolf of Dyslexicon's skill level.
That's being generous, Dyslexicon is a good wolf, and good wolves understand that defending mafia teammmates when you have credibility is the most +ev thing you can do as a wolf)
You may have a point my good sir!

EnderWiggin - Ender has seemed to sincerely believe that Rondo is mafia. He has made that his near permanent axe to grind, and regardless of Rondo's alignment, Rondo's point of that boxing Ender in in the event of his flip being town, is a good one.
Yes but Rondo is town, and Ender has done nothing but push a town, which is wolfy, again you're being too generous.
Maybe so, maybe so.

falcon45ca - Falcon has had really good reads. He's pushed many of the wolves and isn't really doing so from a deepwolf position.
He's done this before.
True.
It's literally how he wins games as mafia. He has one of the highest mafia winrates on Syndicate.
Yeah but you're being paranoid. He just has good reads.
Does he really have this good of a radar as town, he's hardly posted so he's probably paid no attention to the game. Why are his reads so good?


Golden - Golden's wim and level of solving is very high. He is probably just town on play. He also has some pretty good Alison antispew going for him.
He also worked pretty hard to try to get SVS over instead of Seanzie (and probably other wolves), and SVS is probably town. He also was a strong supporter of Alison being in the towncore.
Seanzie also didn't try to push SVS when she was quite viable, and Alison also didn't push SVS when she could have ... you also thought Alison was town for the most part. Golden showed some signs of scepticism towards Alison, and he also openly conflicted with her on Kate.
Well... we'll get to SVS later. I think it's probably mostly paranoia to continue suspecting Golden so imma let it go.

Guillotine - He's in his town meta. I don't think he has TMI.
Alison literally pulled him out of your POE. He pushed you egregiously. His interactions with Rondo when they were both pushing you were super unusual.
Yeah she pulled him out but didn't pull Seanzie out because she was the assigned deepwolf of the team and had a pass to bus and townside.
Plausible, yet ... no just plausible honestly.

hollowkatt - Alison tried to persuade you to drop your townshield, which she did successfully, but she didn't push him, which means she was probably doing so in order to get YOU to push HK, which you did, not PUSH him herself, which if she wanted him to get actual pressure, she would do herself so she could get the cred, not leave you with the dirty hands. Also he got super mad and told someone to fuck off.
Hahaha... yeah I got nothing. This argument is solid.

Kate - Kate has okay tone and a shield from Golden that probably should be just sheeped. Also Alison tried to kill her.
Again... point well made.

Lilypetal - Every time Lily is around and someone says anything mean to me she defends me.
She would do that as mafia because you're pocketable and if she pushed you you'd be inclined to see right through it cuz she townreads you accurately all the time, she's done no hunting as town. She is squarely in her wolf meta.
Yeah... when u rite u rite homes.

Macdougall - You are extremely high wim in this game, and in a game that you should be taking a break from mafia in and phoning in which you were at the start, but your enthusiasm for this silly game has meant you cannot help yourself and have lost it, again, this is why this will be the last game you play for a long long time. But it's also very obvious you are town because you are a very significant reason that the mafia lost Seanzie yesterday, Alison is clearly not your partner and you have good spew with Sabi that had no theatre to it. You're obvious mafia, and town with paranoia towards you for fooling them so many times, plus the wolves/3p slots, are the only one really saying otherwise so you can probably stop worrying about it, nobody is going to flip you.
Thanks dad.

Marmot - I think Marmot was an attempted CFD at the last minute that wolves participated in.
He is not out of his wolf range.
His solving has been quite good when he's had the time. Nutella has a great instinct read on Marmot and shielded him hard and died.
Yep. Marmot is town.

master radishes - Radishes feels like a man without a team. He just sort of wanders in, laments not knowing what to do and then tries to figure out where to go. It's agendaless.
Well... you are describing a wolf. Where is his town intent?
Hmmm.
He also voted Marmot at EOD over Seanzie.
Hmmm.

Michelle - She literally just sheeped me all day until like the end and then voted Scotty. I mean I can have bad reads but the amount she did it, she was doing that instead of really attempting to pursue a wolf wincon.
Or a town one. She was trying to pocket you. She's done very little aside from try to pocket you. She ended up voting Scotty who is spewed clear from Alison.
I'm not sure that spew is very reliable.
Maybe not, but you shouldn't trust her. And Alison was actually shielding her with a misrep meta read saying she "wears her alignment on her sleeve" and is in her obvious town meta when you and i both know that she is not actually in her town meta at all.
True, maybe the wolves have all banded together from jump street and said "we're just pocketing Mac". Seanzie completely ignored pushing me which he like never does, Alison shielded me, Sabi pushed me a LITTLE bit but a lot less than usual and I also was pushing her. Maybe it's their entire agenda and why you're alive?
Now you get it!

Neon - Neon shot, an wolf, and has been otherwise shielding you.
Well if the wolf team's agenda is to pocket you, here's one.
Shot, an wolf.
Yes, yes. True. We let those skate. (unless they're sig).

Party Crasher - Lots of good solving from some of the heads, Hydra dissonance, Tutuu being all CFD happy the way she was isn't damning, and Marmot isn't clear so I can't hold that against her. Today particularly vibey solving.
Their solving today was predicated on something that ended up being provably wrong. Your overnight solving had them as lock mafia. Go back there moron.
Hmmm. Okay!

Porscha - Porscha is town.
I agree. Porscha is town.

RondoDimBuckle - Alison tried to chain him to the very specific universe in which Seanzie flipped mafia KP. Seanzie tried to make him the counterwagon.
True, I have no doubt anymore that Rondo is town either. Also maybe Seanzie sticking here and not trying to participate in teh Marmot C/W actually means Marmot was a hit too, maybe the CFD voters are all town?
Plausible. Plausible...

S~V~S - SVS voted you, you could have shot her.
She might be gambitting. In the end you couldn't shoot her cuz she was the only one that voted you.
That's true, Scotty really should have been voting me at EOD and found a reason not to. He's just mafia.
I really do think he is, and Alison spew is unreliable, but this is about SVS.
Yes I think if Scotty is mafia, SVS is probably mafia?
I would agree. They are teammates if one is wolf so too is the other.


Scotty - Alison spew?
Is unreliable, didn't vote you after trying to persuade everyone to vote you. Tried to save Seanzie.
Marmot can be mafia here.
Yes it is actually becoming rather likely that Marmot/Scotty is a w/t dichotomy, and SVS's alignment also hinges on Scott. SVS's alignment will actually tell a fair bit about this game.
I agree.

sig - Sig shot Alison. The end.
Sig is in his wolf meta. He townread her. He can't shoot someone he townreads that's egregious.
He shot Alison. There is no second mafia team. At best he's 3p.
True.
And also you actually think he's in his town meta why are you telling yourself he's in his wolf meta.
Well he's in his wolf meta in terms of his contribution and impact but his actual play has lots of his town notes, paranoia, entitlement.
Yup, so he's a townread.
Yeah i guess so. That's an amazing vig shot. I can scarcely believe he made it.
He is right when he says he plays vig like that. You've seen it.

Sloonei - He's just like thread dad with no agenda.
So he's an obvious 3p lol.
... true actually haha.

Urist - He's been pro mac and seems to believe his reads.
Yeaaaaaaah but he voted Rondo instead of Seanzie, and has been non stop pushing Golden who is probably town... and there was something else you found before and forgot.
Yeahhhh ok.

Okay so after unpacking my thoughts like a single player chess game.

Town unsorted

golden
sig
rondo
guillo
kate
hollowkatt
marmot
neon
porscha

Null/3p/? unsorted

Falcon
Sloonei
112
DrWilgy
Michelle

POE sorted

Scotty
SVS
Party Crasher
Dyslexicon
Lilypetal
Urist

Some food for thought...tho I'll ask this, is your italicized take on my slot genuine? Cuz' it's demonstrably false. I do not deepwolf, it is not how I win games as Maf. I'm often busted early, and then leave misleading spew to send my teammates deep.




I like the takes on MR & lily (someone who I don't feel I know how to read). Also, we should kill Marmot w/ fire IMO

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:34 am Ladies and gentlemen, a world first. I am going to let you into the mind of Macdougall like never before ... it's TRUSTFALL TIME, featuring, myself arguing with myself! I do hope to entertain you!

If this player was town, what would be the reason? And why is that argument really shit at the same time?

112 - 112 has felt like a player who has no teammates. They seem to lack TMI. They also shielded Hollowkatt early on, who has at least a small amount of Alison spew going for him.
Sure but they are also not trying to solve the game, and can be a level 1 slankwolf.
That is true, they are probably fairly hard null without closer analysis.
I would agree!

DrWilgy - DrWilgy's posts have not actively pinged me, or anyone really. There's nobody in the game who seems to have an axe to grind and wants to push him.
Yes, and why haven't the wolves actually drawn attention to his lack of production. What is the benefit to the mafia of not attempting to make someone who is not present a viable option.
Honestly the mafia have had their work cut out for them dealing with a fairly robust town, yesterday there was mafia in the POE and they died, it's not like they really would have felt all that comfortable trying to bring attention to new candidates in a way that was very persuasive.
True, you may have a point. Perhaps it's worth checking if anyone at all attempted to make Wilgy a suspect. Because I'd expect at least a LITTLE nibble at it from Alison or another wolf or two.
Agreed!

Dyslexicon - Dyslexicon has acted at times like a voice of reason. They are quite a calming influence on the thread.
But they tried to save Seanzie and undermine your push on Alison.
Yes well that also is probably a bit too sloppy for a wolf of Dyslexicon's skill level.
That's being generous, Dyslexicon is a good wolf, and good wolves understand that defending mafia teammmates when you have credibility is the most +ev thing you can do as a wolf)
You may have a point my good sir!

EnderWiggin - Ender has seemed to sincerely believe that Rondo is mafia. He has made that his near permanent axe to grind, and regardless of Rondo's alignment, Rondo's point of that boxing Ender in in the event of his flip being town, is a good one.
Yes but Rondo is town, and Ender has done nothing but push a town, which is wolfy, again you're being too generous.
Maybe so, maybe so.

falcon45ca - Falcon has had really good reads. He's pushed many of the wolves and isn't really doing so from a deepwolf position.
He's done this before.
True.
It's literally how he wins games as mafia. He has one of the highest mafia winrates on Syndicate.
Yeah but you're being paranoid. He just has good reads.
Does he really have this good of a radar as town, he's hardly posted so he's probably paid no attention to the game. Why are his reads so good?


Golden - Golden's wim and level of solving is very high. He is probably just town on play. He also has some pretty good Alison antispew going for him.
He also worked pretty hard to try to get SVS over instead of Seanzie (and probably other wolves), and SVS is probably town. He also was a strong supporter of Alison being in the towncore.
Seanzie also didn't try to push SVS when she was quite viable, and Alison also didn't push SVS when she could have ... you also thought Alison was town for the most part. Golden showed some signs of scepticism towards Alison, and he also openly conflicted with her on Kate.
Well... we'll get to SVS later. I think it's probably mostly paranoia to continue suspecting Golden so imma let it go.

Guillotine - He's in his town meta. I don't think he has TMI.
Alison literally pulled him out of your POE. He pushed you egregiously. His interactions with Rondo when they were both pushing you were super unusual.
Yeah she pulled him out but didn't pull Seanzie out because she was the assigned deepwolf of the team and had a pass to bus and townside.
Plausible, yet ... no just plausible honestly.

hollowkatt - Alison tried to persuade you to drop your townshield, which she did successfully, but she didn't push him, which means she was probably doing so in order to get YOU to push HK, which you did, not PUSH him herself, which if she wanted him to get actual pressure, she would do herself so she could get the cred, not leave you with the dirty hands. Also he got super mad and told someone to fuck off.
Hahaha... yeah I got nothing. This argument is solid.

Kate - Kate has okay tone and a shield from Golden that probably should be just sheeped. Also Alison tried to kill her.
Again... point well made.

Lilypetal - Every time Lily is around and someone says anything mean to me she defends me.
She would do that as mafia because you're pocketable and if she pushed you you'd be inclined to see right through it cuz she townreads you accurately all the time, she's done no hunting as town. She is squarely in her wolf meta.
Yeah... when u rite u rite homes.

Macdougall - You are extremely high wim in this game, and in a game that you should be taking a break from mafia in and phoning in which you were at the start, but your enthusiasm for this silly game has meant you cannot help yourself and have lost it, again, this is why this will be the last game you play for a long long time. But it's also very obvious you are town because you are a very significant reason that the mafia lost Seanzie yesterday, Alison is clearly not your partner and you have good spew with Sabi that had no theatre to it. You're obvious mafia, and town with paranoia towards you for fooling them so many times, plus the wolves/3p slots, are the only one really saying otherwise so you can probably stop worrying about it, nobody is going to flip you.
Thanks dad.

Marmot - I think Marmot was an attempted CFD at the last minute that wolves participated in.
He is not out of his wolf range.
His solving has been quite good when he's had the time. Nutella has a great instinct read on Marmot and shielded him hard and died.
Yep. Marmot is town.

master radishes - Radishes feels like a man without a team. He just sort of wanders in, laments not knowing what to do and then tries to figure out where to go. It's agendaless.
Well... you are describing a wolf. Where is his town intent?
Hmmm.
He also voted Marmot at EOD over Seanzie.
Hmmm.

Michelle - She literally just sheeped me all day until like the end and then voted Scotty. I mean I can have bad reads but the amount she did it, she was doing that instead of really attempting to pursue a wolf wincon.
Or a town one. She was trying to pocket you. She's done very little aside from try to pocket you. She ended up voting Scotty who is spewed clear from Alison.
I'm not sure that spew is very reliable.
Maybe not, but you shouldn't trust her. And Alison was actually shielding her with a misrep meta read saying she "wears her alignment on her sleeve" and is in her obvious town meta when you and i both know that she is not actually in her town meta at all.
True, maybe the wolves have all banded together from jump street and said "we're just pocketing Mac". Seanzie completely ignored pushing me which he like never does, Alison shielded me, Sabi pushed me a LITTLE bit but a lot less than usual and I also was pushing her. Maybe it's their entire agenda and why you're alive?
Now you get it!

Neon - Neon shot, an wolf, and has been otherwise shielding you.
Well if the wolf team's agenda is to pocket you, here's one.
Shot, an wolf.
Yes, yes. True. We let those skate. (unless they're sig).

Party Crasher - Lots of good solving from some of the heads, Hydra dissonance, Tutuu being all CFD happy the way she was isn't damning, and Marmot isn't clear so I can't hold that against her. Today particularly vibey solving.
Their solving today was predicated on something that ended up being provably wrong. Your overnight solving had them as lock mafia. Go back there moron.
Hmmm. Okay!

Porscha - Porscha is town.
I agree. Porscha is town.

RondoDimBuckle - Alison tried to chain him to the very specific universe in which Seanzie flipped mafia KP. Seanzie tried to make him the counterwagon.
True, I have no doubt anymore that Rondo is town either. Also maybe Seanzie sticking here and not trying to participate in teh Marmot C/W actually means Marmot was a hit too, maybe the CFD voters are all town?
Plausible. Plausible...

S~V~S - SVS voted you, you could have shot her.
She might be gambitting. In the end you couldn't shoot her cuz she was the only one that voted you.
That's true, Scotty really should have been voting me at EOD and found a reason not to. He's just mafia.
I really do think he is, and Alison spew is unreliable, but this is about SVS.
Yes I think if Scotty is mafia, SVS is probably mafia?
I would agree. They are teammates if one is wolf so too is the other.


Scotty - Alison spew?
Is unreliable, didn't vote you after trying to persuade everyone to vote you. Tried to save Seanzie.
Marmot can be mafia here.
Yes it is actually becoming rather likely that Marmot/Scotty is a w/t dichotomy, and SVS's alignment also hinges on Scott. SVS's alignment will actually tell a fair bit about this game.
I agree.

sig - Sig shot Alison. The end.
Sig is in his wolf meta. He townread her. He can't shoot someone he townreads that's egregious.
He shot Alison. There is no second mafia team. At best he's 3p.
True.
And also you actually think he's in his town meta why are you telling yourself he's in his wolf meta.
Well he's in his wolf meta in terms of his contribution and impact but his actual play has lots of his town notes, paranoia, entitlement.
Yup, so he's a townread.
Yeah i guess so. That's an amazing vig shot. I can scarcely believe he made it.
He is right when he says he plays vig like that. You've seen it.

Sloonei - He's just like thread dad with no agenda.
So he's an obvious 3p lol.
... true actually haha.

Urist - He's been pro mac and seems to believe his reads.
Yeaaaaaaah but he voted Rondo instead of Seanzie, and has been non stop pushing Golden who is probably town... and there was something else you found before and forgot.
Yeahhhh ok.

Okay so after unpacking my thoughts like a single player chess game.

Town unsorted

golden
sig
rondo
guillo
kate
hollowkatt
marmot
neon
porscha

Null/3p/? unsorted

Falcon
Sloonei
112
DrWilgy
Michelle

POE sorted

Scotty
SVS
Party Crasher
Dyslexicon
Lilypetal
Urist

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:37 am Yes as do mine I suppose.

But I'm trying to create a narrow POE like we did to great effect yesterday.

MR
Scotty
SVS
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I'd like to prosecute these people and would love live and fully considerate debate on them.

I would add 112, guillo and Michelle personally.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:09 am You guys aren't praising my glorious post enough. I feel unloved.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:29 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:23 pm I had Alison as lock clear in my solving notes based on her treatment of Seanzie and am stunned to see they were teammates because I only had her plausible mafia with a Rondo team that Seanzie is not on. I don't understand why she played the way she did and it implies at least somewhat that their team preferred Seanzie to die over Rondo. Which baffles me because it definitely didn't seem like Rondo really wanted Seanzie to die and Seanzie seemed to want Rondo to die. So ultimately I can only chalk it up to Alison was simply hard townsiding to go deep. If a town killed Alison I would consider it one of the best vig shots I've ever seen.

Idk she didnt seem that townie lol but I agree she was playing to go deep

Let me be clear, I obviously didn't think she was towny because I exercised doubt on her at multiple points in day 2 and even went all ree at her for misrepresenting my case on Rondo (do y'all remember that, it was a whole thing that pissed Golden off etc.).

I just thought she was insanely clear from Seanzie specifically to the degree that made me drop all of my suspicion. It wasn't just that she voted him, it was that she did so in such a casual way that I felt like she had zero agenda. And he was wolf KP to boot, and he tried to survive and kill Rondo who I had already determined Alison would be mafia with.

Now that Alison is mafia, let's talk about why she went to great lengths to mischaracterise the nature of the Rondo/Mac interactions to benefit Rondo and why a mafia Alison would do that for a non teammate?

Restating how hilarious it is that Mac thinks I can still be wolf after Seanzie + Alison + Sabi all flipped wolves and how they played around me and I around them

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:31 pm Mac, wtf is your solving today.

We’re playing checkers.

Mac is playing Warhammer 40k

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:43 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:41 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:36 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:33 pm i learned there was a 2nd mafia team just now

Do you have a reason for this statement or are you just taking Mac/PC solving as fact?

Because if you have actual reason for a 2nd mafia team that 100% changes things.

well it makes sense? why would the wolves have [soup] mafia next to their name unless there was 2 teams

and mac's solving seems legit and makes sense

Because Nook trolling players is p much a rite of passage.

Alison died to wolf kp. Town never kills her. She was literally my top town. That shot would be generational and if she flipped town and sig claimed it we would have 10 votes on him.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:52 pm i think rondo is always mafia and one mafia and one town in marmot/mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:20 pm Sig
Hollowkatt
Marmot
112
Kate

How many wolves? Genuinely. These slots have been not townie and have been given passes for not much.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:17 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:25 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:20 pm Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

why would i vote for someone with 0 votes on them at this point in the contest?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:17 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:25 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:20 pm Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing

Push my wagon.




This is twice now you've called me a wolf, show us you truly belief that

112 called me a wolf earlier too. We can console each other.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:25 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:20 pm Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.



Excellent VK candidate IMO

you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing