The Syndicate

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:10 pm like falcon you can understand my frustration with your push when i accidentally post something that doesn't make sense because i wasn't proofreading, IMMEDIATELY quote it and say "oops that was a mistake" and then you just quote the original post to push on me like "hey this post doesn't make sense" because you're skipping over everything that doesn't confirm your push

I'm fine w/ frustration, doesn't bother me really.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:59 pm falcon your posts on me are so fucking disingenuous they're fine if you're wolf but if you're a town you need think about how mad you were about tunneling yesterday and how you're stuck in a completely self-sustaining tunnel where pushing me is more important than actually analyzing me

I feel I have been analyzing you, and not just blindly tunneling. If you feel otherwise, that's fine. I'll give you some space to hunt

Consensus POE yesterday was MightyQ, myself & Pao.

I don't recall a lot of push on MissC? Or am I misrembering?

I feel Pao & I were the top wagons for like 80% or more of the RD

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:24 am oh also i HATE "i wouldn't have made this nk lol" posts, they're always bad, and they're always just people jerking themselves off because we all already know night kills are wifom so there's no point in trying to defend yourself based on them

but the consensus poe yesterday was a mix of me/falcon/MQ and my biggest push was MQ (i think i was even voting them over my cw when i was the top wagon) and killing them in the night would be braindead stupid

i don't expect anyone to give me town points for that because night kill analysis this late in a game is generally stupid but i do just feel the need to say it

Did we just find out why MightyQ died?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:09 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:54 am Would anyone here categorize the way I interact w/ anyone, let alone Gav, as "a lot in very soft ways"?
A lot in very soft ways is basically saying you aren’t providing much content towards them but you are speaking allot with them or about them kinda thing.

OK, but even so...MissC says the exact same thing about Wilgy & CR and she liked Wilgy's progression on CR.

Has MissC expressed towards any other player's possible lynch the same level of concern for them flipping town, and it hurting town, to lose that player the way she did with Wilgy?

Wilgy, who was a wagon D1 and getting called out scum by several players she was townreading?

Would anyone here categorize the way I interact w/ anyone, let alone Gav, as "a lot in very soft ways"?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:11 am alright falcon's game first.

falcon starts off the game making some pretty bad posts. like his early d1 was not good.

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:41 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:32 am The one thing I find noteworthy is that Gav/Mac cross voting each other doesn't give w/w vibes.
Their arguing earlier felt too hostile for those two to both be bad guys.
Yeah it's hardly revolutionary, yet it's there.
Arguing wasn’t that hostile?
It was just me telling Mac their can only be room for the one of us and so I voted him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:50 am Howdy! I'm town 'errybody

CR, Gav giving me wolf vibes
I can understand CRichard due to the above post, what exactly makes me give off wolf vibes?
Also, what’s your opinion on Mac? Do you share no opinion on him? Do you town lean him?
Why are you so concerned about mac?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:13 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:41 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:32 am The one thing I find noteworthy is that Gav/Mac cross voting each other doesn't give w/w vibes.
Their arguing earlier felt too hostile for those two to both be bad guys.
Yeah it's hardly revolutionary, yet it's there.
Arguing wasn’t that hostile?
It was just me telling Mac their can only be room for the one of us and so I voted him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:50 am Howdy! I'm town 'errybody

CR, Gav giving me wolf vibes
I can understand CRichard due to the above post, what exactly makes me give off wolf vibes?
Also, what’s your opinion on Mac? Do you share no opinion on him? Do you town lean him?
Why are you so concerned about mac?
Because we both are loud and if he’s wolf that’s not good.
Interesting

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:31 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:37 pm I feel like if you genuinely got wolf vibes from me you’d be voting me.

Or CRichard since you also stated you got wolf vibes from him as well.
This implies my wolf vibes aren't genuine.

Which would mean I'm a wolf.

But no vote from Gav.

So there's that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:12 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:31 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:37 pm I feel like if you genuinely got wolf vibes from me you’d be voting me.

Or CRichard since you also stated you got wolf vibes from him as well.
This implies my wolf vibes aren't genuine.

Which would mean I'm a wolf.

But no vote from Gav.

So there's that
Not directly calling you scum, I’m just saying generally when you say someone gives off wolf vibes it usually warrants a vote or at least some kind of pressure/discussion.
You didn’t do that so I wanted to pressure you to do that so we can advance threadstate.
I’m not too certain if your scum or not but I don’t want Wolf!Mac to lead the Thread so I either need to figure out his alignment and if I can’t or determine his alignment is wolf, I vote to eliminate him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:13 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:48 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:41 pm

Arguing wasn’t that hostile?
It was just me telling Mac their can only be room for the one of us and so I voted him.

I can understand CRichard due to the above post, what exactly makes me give off wolf vibes?
Also, what’s your opinion on Mac? Do you share no opinion on him? Do you town lean him?
Why are you so concerned about mac?
Because we both are loud and if he’s wolf that’s not good.
Interesting

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine
About time you voted.
Although I can’t tell if your voting me due to me pressuring you or not.

Question Falcon, What about CRichard in your own words don’t you like and what gives you wolf vibes about them?
Awkward, forced entrance from CR

You're a bit hedgey on my slot I see.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:54 pm I'm not elaborating my read on CR. It is what it is.

I find it interesting Gav seems to be assuming CR is town. I'm really only seeing Gav push Mac, who he started pushing right out the gate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:54 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:54 pm I'm not elaborating my read on CR. It is what it is.

I find it interesting Gav seems to be assuming CR is town. I'm really only seeing Gav push Mac, who he started pushing right out the gate.
When did I ever say I TR CR? Lmao.
Well, you're scum reading Mac, and watching his read progression on CR. You're asking me to detail my read in CR...all the while not pushing a read of your own.

You push your scum reads, hard, every game. If you're not pushing CR, and you're not, it's fair to assume you're not SR him.

So what is your take?
Null.
When was the last time you had a one word post?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:56 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:54 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:18 pm

When did I ever say I TR CR? Lmao.
Well, you're scum reading Mac, and watching his read progression on CR. You're asking me to detail my read in CR...all the while not pushing a read of your own.

You push your scum reads, hard, every game. If you're not pushing CR, and you're not, it's fair to assume you're not SR him.

So what is your take?
Null.
When was the last time you had a one word post?
I don’t know, is their a problem with it?
No, but it's abnormal for you

like this is just a bad push and they're not very good interactions. i didn't like it at the time, though Lime Coke said falcon is kind of just a naturally scummy player.

he then interacts with you a lot in very soft ways. he reverses his scumread and reads you like a town. sometimes he quotes a post of yours and just kind of points out you made a good read, which is kind of propping you up a bit. which can kinda be read as either pockety or partnery

i think i lean more towards the posts being non-partnered than partnered. but if i look past the one post i like i CAN see the rest coming from a parter

Why is this the same as your other post re: CR & Wilgy?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:14 am @CRichard how i think wilgy treated your slot:

this post:

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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine
is not a partnery post imo, because he's being tentative and trying to make it clear he's following my vote. that doesn't quite give him full credit for voting his partner, and it helps him set up blaming me should you flip town later. i think that's the best looking post for you.

he then interacts with you a lot in very soft ways. he reverses his scumread and reads you like a town. sometimes he quotes a post of yours and just kind of points out you made a good read, which is kind of propping you up a bit. which can kinda be read as either pockety or partnery

i think i lean more towards the posts being non-partnered than partnered. but if i look past the one post i like i CAN see the rest coming from a parter

Wait, but I thought Wilgy had the progression on CR that you liked, now you say Wilgy is following you?

The 2nd bit...do you feel having soft interactions is a positive way to progress on a player? I bet you don't, cuz I think you just said the same thing about me in a negative context

"Had similar progression on CR as me" is another towny thing that Wilgy did that lined up w/ MissC's thinking. I'll be looking at that now, how does MissC feel Wilgy progressed on CR?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:45 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm [b]i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking[/b], which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
This post still sticks out to me.

After Wilgy flips, MissC really steps up her game.

That's a key bit here. It's not just one, or two, or three...but a lot of posts that Wilgy makes.

MissC then quotes just the 1 post of Wilgy re: Pors that's prior to this post that lines up with her thinking.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:24 pm Trying to wrap my head around @Porscha at 630-633.

I've read it like 3 times.

Are we just saying that Mac is town here?

MissC is framing this post as Wilgy disliking Porscha here. In fact, she states it twice.

This post doesn't look like Wilgy dislikes Pors IMO, if anything it looks as tho Wilgy is confused by Pors posts.

Wilgy later does bring this post up again as part of his Pors push, at the time of the original post tho I don't think it looks like Wilgy is scumreading Pors, rather that he's confused by her posts.

How many times do MissC and Wilgy directly quote/interact w/ each other?

MissC also mentioned Wilgy's take on CR as being part if her TR on Wilgy.

@Gavial @CRichard Can you both go thru Wilgy's ISO for his read on CR and see if MissC exhibits a similar progression in her ISO?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:10 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:05 pm BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.
BTW I still think it’s probable Falcon makes this play as wolf to remove PoE.
Yeah, but I can't invent someone's ISO. MissC said what she said, and I've found it strange since it was posted. I asked her for follow up, which she only did after I asked a 2nd time.

If I'm Maf, and my partner Wilgy is on the hot seat straight out the gate, there's no fucking way I NK my top defenders in LC and Mac.

And MissC's follow up re: Wilgy's quotes of Porscha does not add up. It's impossible

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:10 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:05 pm BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.
BTW I still think it’s probable Falcon makes this play as wolf to remove PoE.

Yeah, but I can't invent someone's ISO. MissC said what she said, and I've found it strange since it was posted. I asked her for follow up, which she only did after I asked a 2nd time.

If I'm Maf, and my partner Wilgy is on the hot seat straight out the gate, there's no fucking way I NK my top defenders in LC and Mac.

@CRichard You've got MissC as part of your solve. Can you outline again your scum read on her slot?

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:00 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:59 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:55 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.
Hmm.
Me no like.
Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?
I'd like to hear what Porscha has to say about it as well, and MissC
Well seeing as MissC was the one you said is the last wolf, they probably won't like your case.
As for Porscha, all we can do is wait.

I'm not expecting her to enjoy what I had to say, I want to hear her explanation, if any

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:59 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:55 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.
Hmm.
Me no like.
Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

I'd like to hear what Porscha has to say about it as well, and MissC

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:55 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 pm Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.
Hmm.
Me no like.

Feels a bit pockety

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:31 pm Hello? Is anyone there?

Yeah

@Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:45 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:24 pm Trying to wrap my head around @Porscha at 630-633.

I've read it like 3 times.

Are we just saying that Mac is town here?
>if it those posts are the walls of text, I literally said I townread mac on his posts towards gav. not sure why my posts seem so unreadable to multiple people here??????

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:40 pm Porsha feels super washy.
>again, please read my posts where someone else already accused me of this, and I addressed it. if you would like to ask me a specific question regarding my responses, please do that!!!
Slow your roll my friend, I was catching up and responding as I went.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:46 pm @Porscha so I've seen you express sus of Pao and I? Do you think we are teamed? If not, who is Pao's teammate, who is mine?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:58 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
I did already note that anybody voted off who flips town is bad in my other post, but agree with this sentiment. If i'm being scumleaned b/c I'm not super active or HARD READING SOMEONE INTO OBLIVION (read: being washy, despite listing who I am leaning towards scum...) -- then what does me flipping provide for info? if I get voted off MC, you're going to stop being hard townread by everybody here. pao will be even more sussed, as I have been pushing them all game as a scum read. Crichard would also look more scumread as well - but I'm not sure if even knows why he is voting me b/c he obviously didnt read my posts (neither did pao).
others have said maf wouldn't be voting together day 1, but what's the chance of it day 2? I'm not sure both of their uneducated votes on me mean they are trying to change the vote focus towards me b/c I'm putting pao as my #2 scumread (behind wilgy, who has been a little more towny but i'm still not sold) - and others have already offered me up as a potential scumread (more so than mightyq, who I understand was a little behind in gameplay, but has posted much less in comparison to me - so not sure why I'm being scumread more than him) - plus pao (#2 scumread) listed my potential partners as wilgy which I pointed out is extremely unlikely as they are my #1 scumread, so I know he isn't reading my posts either.
MC, just don't get why you'd put your vote over me than wilgy other than wilgy's vague mostly non-opinionated posts seem to ring the same song of your heart
Alright, so you think Pao and I are teamed, but further I have opinions on this one. Oh pray tell where I have not been opinionated? I believe I've been very clear on who I think is wolf and why. Also what is the purpose of comparing yourself to mightyQ here? I believe you to have pretty decent scum equity with Gavi. MightyQ does not. Where does content play into that?

Also doesn't really reach me when I feel that quite abit of your posting is "there's no way I'm on a team with X" or "well X who is suspicious of me just isn't reading."

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:58 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
I did already note that anybody voted off who flips town is bad in my other post, but agree with this sentiment. If i'm being scumleaned b/c I'm not super active or HARD READING SOMEONE INTO OBLIVION (read: being washy, despite listing who I am leaning towards scum...) -- then what does me flipping provide for info? if I get voted off MC, you're going to stop being hard townread by everybody here. pao will be even more sussed, as I have been pushing them all game as a scum read. Crichard would also look more scumread as well - but I'm not sure if even knows why he is voting me b/c he obviously didnt read my posts (neither did pao).
others have said maf wouldn't be voting together day 1, but what's the chance of it day 2? I'm not sure both of their uneducated votes on me mean they are trying to change the vote focus towards me b/c I'm putting pao as my #2 scumread (behind wilgy, who has been a little more towny but i'm still not sold) - and others have already offered me up as a potential scumread (more so than mightyq, who I understand was a little behind in gameplay, but has posted much less in comparison to me - so not sure why I'm being scumread more than him) - plus pao (#2 scumread) listed my potential partners as wilgy which I pointed out is extremely unlikely as they are my #1 scumread, so I know he isn't reading my posts either.
MC, just don't get why you'd put your vote over me than wilgy other than wilgy's vague mostly non-opinionated posts seem to ring the same song of your heart
Alright, so you think Pao and I are teamed, but further I have opinions on this one. Oh pray tell where I have not been opinionated? I believe I've been very clear on who I think is wolf and why. Also what is the purpose of comparing yourself to mightyQ here? I believe you to have pretty decent scum equity with Gavi. MightyQ does not. Where does content play into that?

Also doesn't really reach me when I feel that quite abit of your posting is "there's no way I'm on a team with X" or "well X who is suspicious of me just isn't reading."
FURTHER! because my brain isn't stopping, where you acknowledged that people seem to be having trouble with your wall posts... Like here:
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:24 am
Trying to wrap my head around @Porscha at 630-633.

I've read it like 3 times.

Are we just saying that Mac is town here?
>if it those posts are the walls of text, I literally said I townread mac on his posts towards gav. not sure why my posts seem so unreadable to multiple people here??????
Where is the questioning of lack of understanding VS not reading? I feel like that should have been explored from a town mindset. One is shading the other would be attempt to build a clear and concise message for us to establish how to read you.

And if I missed this in my confusion, please point it out to me.

All of this occurs AFTER MissC claims that Wilgy's Pors quotes lined up w/ her scumread.

MissC is the last wolf. Her timeline doesn't match up whatsoever

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:16 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:00 pm it seems like I'm one of the few people who are unfamiliar with playing with a lot of you so I won't ever have background experience to back up any position I take. just an fyi. I read through everything and while being aggro to create pressure (especially this early with no total confirmation / deaths), I am having negative gut feelings towards falcon. maybe they just aggro tho.
I'd say that Falcon being slightly more firm in feel to be a town sign for him.

As far as I can tell, this is the only post of Pors that Wilgy quotes prior to MissC's #857, where MissC laments that losing Wilgy will hurt town alot.

#857 occurs Friday at 1:51 PM. MissC says Wilgy's thoughts align w/ hers at #861, Friday at 2:28 PM.

When I ask her why, MissC states that Wilgy's "quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them"

But Wilgy hadn't quoted anything of Pors except that 1 post of Pors at that time

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:19 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:19 pm I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.
Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:39 pm Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac
Weird movement of Pors on Wilgy's list....

And CR is good in one list, and absent from the other?

Those 2 posts from Wilgy are 20 mins apart. MissC cites Wilgy's read/quotes on Pors as part of their reticence on Wilgy.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:56 am
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:00 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:02 pm
Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote
Odd.

Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game
i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town
Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?
i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait
Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?
had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

I will be going thru Wilgy's ISO in search of this content

MissC gets the least amount of attention from Wilgy out of everybody, tho I'd like for others to go thru Wilgy's ISO as well

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:49 pm Paopan is mafia

The other one is probably between Wilgy and Gavial

But it can be Crichard.

This is the solve.
Good on Pao/Gav.

Maybe Pao/MightyQ?

Other option is Gav/MightyQ,
or you/Crichard,
or you/MightyQ.

Honestly, where is MightyQ in your world here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:52 am At this point in my catchup, everyone seems to be giving Gav this 'misguided town' thing. I don't get it.

Gav should have had no reason to TR me early like he did and the Sig wagon was dumb. I'd like to resolve Wagon à la Sig, via Pao or Gav today. While I don't think it's Pao, it's better than Porsche or I.

So despite numerous times Wilgy calling Pao out, he hedges the slot here. We know Pao was Town now

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm Alright caught up.

Have some beef with my wagon as Mac and Falcon are town. Mac is still reading me poorly, and it's becoming silly.

Odd that I saw CR advise that I wasn't hunting in spite of not interacting with what content I was able to provide, but I don't think I should go barking up that tree with Gav still around.

Hmmm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:19 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:19 pm I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.
Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:39 pm Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac

Weird movement of Pors on Wilgy's list....

And CR is good in one list, and absent from the other?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:14 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:32 pm If my solve is correct, then there is at least one wolf in Paopan, Porscha, Sig and MightyQ.
If the above PoE doesn't end the game, then depending on who lives night after night should be reevaluated especially if their name is (Looks up notes) Mac, mayyyyyybe Gav.

Hmmmmm.

Is Wilgy clapping sarcastically, as everyone but Pors has been flipped Town? Might be a good look for CR

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:51 pm i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

This post still sticks out to me.

After Wilgy flips, MissC really steps up her game.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:10 am I’ve almost fully solved this game Falcon.

If your town you gotta trust me.

Quit flipping the script. You hedged, hard, that Wilgy was a ML.

That was not your solve. Stop trying to take credit

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:05 am Hey Falcon.
Wanna do something?
Just vote Miss Caro.
Trust me.

Could be scum, I got a way to figure out everyone remaining’s alignments.

I've clearly outlined my own reasons for why MissC could be Maf, it has nothing to do with trusting you

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:06 am If your wolf I’ll know.

If your actually town, I’ll know.

I mean, so far your read on Pao was accurate, but you've had lots of reads not turn out true.

Try to remember that. Cuz you've been wrong about my slot the whole game.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:03 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:50 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:35 am Your wolf aren’t you Falcon?
It doesn't matter what I say to you. You've been tunneling me since D1
That untrue, there is stuff you can and could have said to prove yourself if your town.
I think it’s best for me now to look at actions from you.

I’m trying not to tunnel for today because I’m nice.

OK, fair enough.

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:09 am Which means that barring deep wolves, we have a PoE of MissC and Falcon and flipping these two should end the game.

Here tho he's not concerned overly w/ a deepwolf and wants 2 flips outside of deepwolf territory.

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:45 pmUh .... what?

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:45 pm Why MightyQ out of everyone?

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:48 pm Dafuq was that kill? Gav, myself or Porscha would have been obvious choices.

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:53 pm I had MightyQ as town from the derp clear, yet I'm shocked that they were the night kill.
I'm a little worried there's a deep wolf as I should have died, Gav should have died, Porscha should have died.

Little bit of pageantry re: MightyQ NK, and what have we here?

He's worried about a deepwolf.

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:09 am Which means that barring deep wolves, we have a PoE of MissC and Falcon and flipping these two should end the game.

Hmmmm

But we know that Wilgy was getting heat from D1 (even though you've tried to frame it differently), so a deepwolf would be the best way for the Maf to win.

You're trying to steer town away from a seepwolf conclusion.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:35 am Your wolf aren’t you Falcon?

It doesn't matter what I say to you. You've been tunneling me since D1

[VOTE: MissC] aubergine

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:18 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:17 pm Ok yet I was one of the main Wilgy pushers with MacDougall and EoD2 would have been a perfect opportunity for me to switch my vote to Porscha and flip them instead.
EoD2 was a rand btw.
I recall.
Good job! You'd think that if I were mafia, then gambling on the rand with Wilgy a mafia and Porscha who would be town is an incredibly risky move as mafia no?

As I mentioned, Wilgy getting heat from the start of D1 and being a wagon D1 made his flip a real possibility.

His partner would want to position themselves for a F3.

So being on a 50/50 wagon ain't that bad a strategy to deepwolf.

Or do you feel you're beyond suspicion?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:17 pm MissC also had those posts about Wilgy that I found very sus.

I'm not gonna tunnel CR here, I'll be coming thru Wilgy's ISO tomorrow.

Combing

Haha, coming...I like ya Wilgy, but not that much!

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:17 pm Ok yet I was one of the main Wilgy pushers with MacDougall and EoD2 would have been a perfect opportunity for me to switch my vote to Porscha and flip them instead.
EoD2 was a rand btw.

I recall.

MissC also had those posts about Wilgy that I found very sus.

I'm not gonna tunnel CR here, I'll be coming thru Wilgy's ISO tomorrow.

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:13 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:09 pm BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.
IIRC, Wilgy ended w/ his vote on Sig. Why not push your wagon, rather than a 0 poster?
Gav shielded me and thought Sig was the better option. I guess Wilgy thought I was too much hard work trying to eliminate.

Yeah, but if you're a CW, he doesn't have to do any work. He just has to vote

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:08 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm [VOTE: CR] aubergine
So you have chosen ...... death.
Is this OMGUS?
Personally I should have voted you out yesterday. Too bad Paopan played so incredibly wolfy and badly.

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:11 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:08 pm I'm on mobile right now. I'll be diving into Wilgy tomorrow
You do that then, then compared how Dr Wilgy and I treated each other so you can see if I'm a likely Wilgy partner or not.

You seem a lil salty under suspicion

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:09 pm BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

IIRC, Wilgy ended w/ his vote on Sig. Why not push your wagon, rather than a 0 poster?

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:06 pm [VOTE: CR] aubergine
So you have chosen ...... death.

Is this OMGUS?

I'm on mobile right now. I'll be diving into Wilgy tomorrow

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