The Syndicate

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:07 pm town deserved this one

Dab

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:04 pm Which one of you was the maf jailkeeper btw?

I was lol

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

Boom bye town

That's what I'm saying lol, like it fits a neon bus really well

But the vote is still pyxxy either way I think yeah? Like I feel like I can just kinda rule out a neon dennis team as soon as dennis votes for her, which I assume is what's coming based on his posting today, so unless you're snowing me pyxxy is always in the team and atp im pretty well past the point of not clearing you lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:49 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:39 pm I’ll be back in like 2 hours maybe less if this turns into a blowout (decent chance)
Who are you rooting for

@pyxxy

Still

The biggest thing giving me pause here is that neon v pyxxy is playing out about how I'd expect a bus to if neon was the designated carry and pyxxy the sacrificial lamb

Either way today is the same vote tho

I'm not doing it tonight cause I'm kinda high lol let's see if it stoll makes sense tomorrow

I mean that feels easy but

It might just be pyxxy and Dennis lol

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:39 pm I’ll be back in like 2 hours maybe less if this turns into a blowout (decent chance)

Who are you rooting for

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:35 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:41 pm I dont particularly think pyxxy is a wolf but if they are destined to cross and I have to make a choice... then without back reading is probs go pyxxy

Nook, I'm happy to wait, I can do some reading tonight when im home/ tomorrow morning cuz I dont work tomorrow.

There is no need to rush this

@Dennis why did you hammer sabi
Yeah might be good cause I'm not gonna be solving this before the game is over lol
Neither will I. Lol

Wowee

Mood tho

Like there's just mechanically minimum one mafia between them

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:00 pm But yes there's obviously at least mafia between you two
Why is it obvious

Because neon voted for pyxxy and the game hasn't ended yet lol

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:13 pm At least one confirmed between pyxxy and neon is nice, but that was also the rest of my poe so like

Not as helpful as it could've been lol

Unless they're bussing for the win which is also possible

I don't want to have to reevaluate dennis tbh

Weh, not gonna solve this from the car
Why reevaluate me when we have a confirmed on either those

I'm not trying to like tell you to ignore me but I think we have to take our best bet in neon/pyxxy

Yes obviously I'm voting one of them today but evaluating you will help inform that decision. Team building should be part of most F5s

The basketball game

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:41 pm I dont particularly think pyxxy is a wolf but if they are destined to cross and I have to make a choice... then without back reading is probs go pyxxy

Nook, I'm happy to wait, I can do some reading tonight when im home/ tomorrow morning cuz I dont work tomorrow.

There is no need to rush this

@Dennis why did you hammer sabi

Yeah might be good cause I'm not gonna be solving this before the game is over lol

Can't speak for anyone else, I was out doing errands then watching kiddo and putting him to bed, now I'm getting dinner ready then watching uconn get beat by the ghost of kawhi Leonard

Then I'm gonna figure out if I should actually be clearing dennis or not and hopefully be in the thread at the same time as porscha to figure things out

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:11 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:05 pm I mean you don't know this but I do I guess but if pyxxy is town they just auto cross me always they never sit here and wait they don't have to
Right but what I'm saying is

If you're town and they're mafia

Crossing with you doesn't make them more likely to be hammered?

Like

I have no idea what you're talking about
That's not even remotely my point

It has to do with me.

I have no idea what your point is then lol

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:05 pm I mean you don't know this but I do I guess but if pyxxy is town they just auto cross me always they never sit here and wait they don't have to

Right but what I'm saying is

If you're town and they're mafia

Crossing with you doesn't make them more likely to be hammered?

Like

I have no idea what you're talking about

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:04 pm No

I voted Pyxxy

There's 2 wolves yes?

3 votes is hammer

Everyone has checked in

Game isn't over

Pyxxy should be dead pyxxy is wolf.

Fypov

But that isn't helpful for us lol

But yes there's obviously at least mafia between you two

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:46 pm It's Pyxxy wolves would have just hammered this by now in all worlds if it wasn't

Pyxxy hasn't crossed me because wolves can't hammer me until a town votes be and they don't want to hammer pyxxy because it's gonna be easy to just get me killed off this

How does pyxxy voting you make pyxxy get hammered?

At least one confirmed between pyxxy and neon is nice, but that was also the rest of my poe so like

Not as helpful as it could've been lol

Unless they're bussing for the win which is also possible

I don't want to have to reevaluate dennis tbh

Weh, not gonna solve this from the car

Should've just snapped smh

How long do I have to wait for it to officially Not Be A Snap

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:57 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:53 am Ftr I don't think you suck I just approach the game differently/formulate reads in different ways

I want to make sure you don't feel like I'm ever attacking you or implying you're bad or suck, we just see the game differently
Yeah no that's fine that's different everyone plays mafia different. I'm a huge proponent of letting people play mafia their own way and never telling someone their style of play is bad or wrong...

I hate scum hunting at least partially cause it feels like I'm saying there's only one correct way to play the game and I don't actually believe that...it's why I'm going back to my old style of just looking for town and making a poe out of people I don't TR instead of looking for scummy behaviors.

I'm better at that.

Speaking of. Someone once told me the best way to read sabi is to articulate why they are town not why they are scum.

Why is sabi town? Nobody answered this or I missed it if you did

<3

And I don't think sabi is town so I'm the wrong person to ask lol

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:48 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:12 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:46 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:16 pm

Good enough for me, welcome to the town core den den
I can say beyond a reasonable doubt this is bad and not a guarantee or a good way to read Dennis.

Do not do this.
I assume Kate has a good read on dennis, you think that's wrong?
Yes
Or rather I do not think the read is infallible and is a good way to lose a game in spite of wolfy behaviors.
Ok, what do you think his wolfy behaviors are?
I've outlined them. He feels stale. His reads are absent. He's has no nuance of thought.

His random sudden self awareness over Sabis treatment of his slot felt like distancing. This is pre flipping and stupid but it pinged me.

His reads just generally don't feel right out or well formed.

I'll consider this when I'm not about to pass out lol, thanks

Ftr I don't think you suck I just approach the game differently/formulate reads in different ways

I want to make sure you don't feel like I'm ever attacking you or implying you're bad or suck, we just see the game differently

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:44 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:44 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:07 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:25 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:06 am

No they killed sean to try and get a ML on sabi today but the correct answer is lynch neon
Yes... the correct decision is indeed to throw the game and kill an obvious town...
Yeah I mean why not

What makes you obv town? Definitely wasnt your lucy push or lily defense lmao
Actually it was my lily defense. Everyone who's seen me wolf including you knows I bury lily as wolf there every single time.

Fuck. I was the only one willing to look into mechanical possibilities town had zero easy of knowing were untrue... why didn't anyone else even bother to think about that as a possibility for even 1 second?
I feel so unseen
Oh also I resent being told my Lucy push was bad. Lucy was intentionally mimicking wolfy parts of her wolf game as town here. She admitted as much to me when she said something along the lines of "I just did this aswolf so of course I'm going to do it as town"

If your intent as town is to just behave like a wolf so you can get away with wolfy shit when you are a wolf I do not mind pushing that over and over and over.
I mean sure I made a post with the sentiment of "you can't play like the color brown every game to be unreadable and then be mad when you arent readable" in regards to lucy... but I feel like there was something about your push that was leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I'll have to read it again to be fair though. I did dislike a post lily made, something something wouldnt it be funny if tutuu and someone else were something and neon was y" ugh I wish I had more time to do back reading. I'm convinced there are answers there

Wouldn't it be funny if tutu and sabi were mafia and Neon was town stuck between them was the comment iirc

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:12 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:46 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:06 am
I think this is towny for dennis

I also thought lily is towny
I agree. Towny Den Den.
Good enough for me, welcome to the town core den den
I can say beyond a reasonable doubt this is bad and not a guarantee or a good way to read Dennis.

Do not do this.
I assume Kate has a good read on dennis, you think that's wrong?
Yes
Or rather I do not think the read is infallible and is a good way to lose a game in spite of wolfy behaviors.

Ok, what do you think his wolfy behaviors are?

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:47 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:27 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:05 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:32 am

I don't trust the polarized porscha read

Porscha is probs town... but not cause of polarity
I trust it until I see her break it lol
She has broken out of it a few times. People just don't want to admit it.
Ok, point me to where then
You and me both know I'm not going to do that

Cartomancy was one though
I mean if you can't or won't point me to a game where she broke being polarized idk why you expect me to change my mind lol

And you did it in this post immediately after saying yoh wouldnt anyways lmao
I did. I supplied one example off the top of my head. There are others. I will not search for them. Polarization reads lose games and are bad.

People used them on me for way too long and some people still let me get away with way too much cause I have a reputation as being shit at the game.

I'm gonna at least glance at cartomancy later

Polarization reads *when applied accurately* win a lot more games than they lose lol

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:27 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:05 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:09 am The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help
I don't trust the polarized porscha read

Porscha is probs town... but not cause of polarity
I trust it until I see her break it lol
She has broken out of it a few times. People just don't want to admit it.
Ok, point me to where then
You and me both know I'm not going to do that

Cartomancy was one though

I mean if you can't or won't point me to a game where she broke being polarized idk why you expect me to change my mind lol

And you did it in this post immediately after saying yoh wouldnt anyways lmao

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:06 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:00 am Totally forgot about this

I'm actually intrigued by this idea Lucy's brought up so I'm gonna drop a lil [VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine because they seem... TOO on topic and into it for being like 3 hours into start of day 1

Bullshit reason, and I don't know this person or if it is normal but I would like to see where this goes
I think this is towny for dennis

I also thought lily is towny
I agree. Towny Den Den.
Good enough for me, welcome to the town core den den
I can say beyond a reasonable doubt this is bad and not a guarantee or a good way to read Dennis.

Do not do this.

I assume Kate has a good read on dennis, you think that's wrong?

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:44 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:07 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:25 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:06 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:01 am Mk so the fact that they didn't kill the uncc'd PR is actually terrifying

So what does this mean? I'm thinking Seanzie might've started catching on and maybe had the solve so I think I'm watching sabi bcuz I remember he started eyebrowing them
No they killed sean to try and get a ML on sabi today but the correct answer is lynch neon
Yes... the correct decision is indeed to throw the game and kill an obvious town...
Yeah I mean why not

What makes you obv town? Definitely wasnt your lucy push or lily defense lmao
Actually it was my lily defense. Everyone who's seen me wolf including you knows I bury lily as wolf there every single time.

Fuck. I was the only one willing to look into mechanical possibilities town had zero easy of knowing were untrue... why didn't anyone else even bother to think about that as a possibility for even 1 second?

I feel so unseen

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:41 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:10 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:07 am If we had a poll rn I'd probably be on sabi but I currently also consider dennis/pyxxy/neon to be acceptable votes
Why sabi prio
I think lily mightve just tmied sabi as her partner, it's not like an uber confident read but it was one of my main takeaways from reading lily's iso
I guess you're allowed to say this but somehow I don't believe you believe it

who would be your second choice after sabi?

Neon or you, idc

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:05 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:09 am The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help
I don't trust the polarized porscha read

Porscha is probs town... but not cause of polarity
I trust it until I see her break it lol
She has broken out of it a few times. People just don't want to admit it.

Ok, point me to where then

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:06 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:00 am Totally forgot about this

I'm actually intrigued by this idea Lucy's brought up so I'm gonna drop a lil [VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine because they seem... TOO on topic and into it for being like 3 hours into start of day 1

Bullshit reason, and I don't know this person or if it is normal but I would like to see where this goes
I think this is towny for dennis

I also thought lily is towny
I agree. Towny Den Den.
Good enough for me, welcome to the town core den den

@Porscha any issues with this?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:06 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:00 am Totally forgot about this

I'm actually intrigued by this idea Lucy's brought up so I'm gonna drop a lil [VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine because they seem... TOO on topic and into it for being like 3 hours into start of day 1

Bullshit reason, and I don't know this person or if it is normal but I would like to see where this goes
I think this is towny for dennis

I also thought lily is towny
I agree. Towny Den Den.

Good enough for me, welcome to the town core den den

Wait Kate was in this game yeah? I'll go back and check how she was reading dennis later but I'll probably just sheep it and blame her for misreading her son if it's wrong

That's not very satisfying j know lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:09 am The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help
Sad cuz that's how I felt about sean and wwa
I'd say I'll be your town core but that's still one short lol
Would you mind giving me like, a one liner for each person in your poe

I mean it's

Sabi - lily mightve tmied them as a partner

Pyxxy/dennis/neon: nothing clears them from being with lily and they aren't polarized afaik

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:09 am The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help
Sad cuz that's how I felt about sean and wwa

I'd say I'll be your town core but that's still one short lol

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:01 am I wrote most of this yesterday, a lot of jt is shorthand and I'm not prettying it up but I'm happy to elaborate where requested

Some of it may not be relevant any more lol

Compared to treatment of lucy:

Porscha looks similar, tracks with/reinforces assumption that porscha is polarized town

Seems like she has similar approach to sabi as porscha lucy and pyxxy, except scum reads sabi instead--possible tmi?

Way she tmis me town makes me think most if not all of her town reads are accurate, reasonably confident she scum reads at LEAST one partner

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 7#p1031677

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 2#p1032372

Flip flopping read on lucy, similar to how she does with her read on me and sabi, maybe this makes sabi town after all lol

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 3#p1032373

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 4#p1032374

Fairly partnered with neon maybe?

Not great for tutu but I think probably not paired with both of lily and neon just cause most mafia don't think to make reads like this with two partners involved, so maybe one between them, idk

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 6#p1032816

By far the tr she's talked about the least afaict, very ???

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 6#p1032826

Someone find out who the other wagon at the time was

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 0#p1033510

I lowkey forgot tutu was dead for parts of this lol I think I deleted the stuff referencing her but if not oh well, anyways I ended up with her as moderately unpaired largely for the cheap shots taken towards her so I feel unreservedly confident the rest will be accurate too

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 9#p1034519

Feel like this might just be tmi lol

The block on sean claim pretty much clears him imo not gonna bother reading anything else she posted that day again
OK nvm nook wrote a thing
I assume this was an overnight post or something written after hammer and before SoD

I started it before hammer, finished it after

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:06 amHi Nook

Sup

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:18 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:48 am falcon tr nook too but idk I feel like falcon felt like he was only a wagon for low activity and so he might be too willing to give a tr to a fellow low poster
Yeah
As much as i have my own reasons for thinking nook can still be town, i also got the impression falcon was just giving him an activity pass, more like "this doesn't mean Nook is scum" rather than "Nook is town for doing this".
Ill continue to evaluate Nook independently of falcon's read on him, and I'd reeeeaaaally like for Nook to do something more than pop in and disappear. Like, at least marginally more. Because at this rate, even if he is town, he's not exactly making himself a valuable asset for solving because he's not helping people to find him in that case. And that's a huge liability in LyLo.

Pop in and disappear isn't really going to go away, it's just a function of how I'm playing on my phone between other stuff most of the time

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:09 am The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help
I don't trust the polarized porscha read

Porscha is probs town... but not cause of polarity

I trust it until I see her break it lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:44 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:12 pm For post game cred the team is aro/nanook/tutuu
Nook surely you arent her partner in this rule of 3 right

The only rule of 3 I subscribe to is that you should frame your composition so that your main focal point is on one of the corners of the center box, and I barely even believe in that one

I'm probably going to have to read other isos to get the solve, I thought reading lily's would do it but even now I still don't feel confident in picking out a lock town in dennis/sabi/pyxxy/neon lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:07 am If we had a poll rn I'd probably be on sabi but I currently also consider dennis/pyxxy/neon to be acceptable votes
Why sabi prio

I think lily mightve just tmied sabi as her partner, it's not like an uber confident read but it was one of my main takeaways from reading lily's iso

The great shame of this game is that I need three locked town reads and I can only find two and they're polarized porscha and pr wwa

Help

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