The Syndicate

Goddamn it I hate that I keep double posting.

This is why discourse is better for mafia!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:34 pm Why do you hate zoidberg? Don’t hate zoidberg. Zoidberg is your friend.
I hated Jack's post. And used your post to express how much I hated it. Not everything is about yoooouuuu

But I’m so vain!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:34 pm Why do you hate zoidberg? Don’t hate zoidberg. Zoidberg is your friend.
I hated Jack's post. And used your post to express how much I hated it. Not everything is about yoooouuuu

But I’m so vain!

Why do you hate zoidberg? Don’t hate zoidberg. Zoidberg is your friend.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:17 pm Nook's contrarian style is getting real old.

Nook. Soften up. Come bake cookies with me. We'll catch more scum with cookies, trust and believe.

I mean that’s just how I am, so.

In conclusion,

The quibble has everything to do with the supposed main point of your posts—you claim my mindset re: Radishes was markedly and dramatically different enough D2 to be suspicious, and yet the posts you quote don’t support that, they show an ambivalent approach that says “I don’t have a good read so I’m not gonna fight but this is only a good kill if he’s mafia.” Which is different than saying “this is a good kill, full stop.”

No your post sucks, and I contend your entire line of inquiry is flawed at best and cold trash at worst.

Tbh only one scum team exists today as far as I’m concerned

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm Excuse me compare that to what I said about him D1 and tell me it’s not the exact same mindset
Nanook 1 was ambivalent about Radish.

Not defending Radish, just calling slip accusation stupid
Not TRing Radish, slip accusation was poor play
Is Radish case more than a lack of impression?
Understand nutella case more than Radishes case
Seen Radish not do enough as town/indy before
Radish reasoning is meh, maybe baddie idk, meh D1 not AI

Nanook 2 was more concretely "Radish is a good lynch, but we should lynch the other person". The mindsets are not identical.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:06 pm Radishes is a great TK if he’s scum, it blows the game pretty open.

If he’s town it kinda fucks us tho.

I’m not convinced enough to fight either way tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:45 am The other thing that makes me feel OK about a mac TK is that we have actual battle lines over it, people are invested on both sides, as opposed to radishes where we have a few people invested in killing him and everyone else seemingly kind of shrugging and going “eh, idk, maybe?”

And I tend to think that in a game like this a polarized TK is more likely to lead to scum than one where the strongest defense against it amounts to a half hearted “idk he’s kinda null.”

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm I don’t even think radishes is a bad kill, I just don’t understand why we aren’t killing mac tbh

Radish is a good TK if he’s mafia is a more accurate representation. You know, like I literally said in one of the posts you quoted.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:29 pm Also, question for everyone: What should be the game plan going forward? Should we try to lynch Radish team and follow those leads? Or should we try to find and expose the other team? Or should be do both/come what may?

I have some thoughts, but I think it's an interesting question.

We've had two GOAT lynches, and the game is still over 36 % scum. That is hilarious and sad. This is what I mean when I say big multiball games should have a multilynch option.

Radishes team first, then we worry about Mac’s team

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:25 pm I wasn’t being (very) sarcastic, I’m just not doing your work for you. Don’t be lazy about it if you’re gonna shade me.
This guy is calling me lazy right now

This guy
Your work on me was lazy idk what to tell you
It was a conscious choice. Before I even started reviewing anything you said, I looked for the moment where your second body took over your posts -- when your role card changed. I will scan it later and see if I care.

It was a conscious choice to ignore meaningful context for my handling of radishes. Got it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:25 pm I wasn’t being (very) sarcastic, I’m just not doing your work for you. Don’t be lazy about it if you’re gonna shade me.
This guy is calling me lazy right now

This guy

Your work on me was lazy idk what to tell you

If chuck is a teammate he open wolfed his Mac vote in a way a lot of mafia players aren’t comfortable doing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm Excuse me compare that to what I said about him D1 and tell me it’s not the exact same mindset
I completely ignored everything from your other body. If you feel something is relevant, bring it out and talk about it.
I mean it seems relevant to compare my D1 approach to radishes to my D2 approach, given that you’re looking for a partner and I’m confirmed not D1 partners. But hey, what be I know.
You can be sarcastic or you can answer my call to bring it out and talk about it.

I wasn’t being (very) sarcastic, I’m just not doing your work for you. Don’t be lazy about it if you’re gonna shade me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm Excuse me compare that to what I said about him D1 and tell me it’s not the exact same mindset
I completely ignored everything from your other body. If you feel something is relevant, bring it out and talk about it.

I mean it seems relevant to compare my D1 approach to radishes to my D2 approach, given that you’re looking for a partner and I’m confirmed not D1 partners. But hey, what be I know.

Also, I supported it the whole time

Or at least pretend to acknowledge it

Excuse me compare that to what I said about him D1 and tell me it’s not the exact same mindset

(That nutella is what that should say)

It’s unfortunate that is the sub cause otherwise I’d be locking that slot as scum and not looking back based off timing

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:12 pm Why do we call it multiball now? I didn't realize we were that cool

Idk that’s the only term I know for it that isn’t clunky as fuck

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:05 pm Hey bitches I'm back in the land of the living!!

After that eod i am thinking I may have been wrong about mac and I have liked his engagement/analysis since. He could still be on the non radishes team and be genuinely hunting,but with how the votes stayed in him like that it seems unlikely.

I agree with the assessments that gman and sabie look like radish teammates. Sprit's vote was also quiiiiite bad but I town read him otherwise so more hesitant to make a hard and fast judgment there.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:55 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:25 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.
Ditto. I’m open to the possibility, and I hope to ISO him myself soon, but I can’t bring myself to shake off my town read.
I keep noticing you earnestly replying to drivel you should be ignoring or eviscerating and I think I've caught you this way before.
L o v e T h i s

Votes staying on him doesn’t make him more likely town, that logic doesn’t apply in multiball

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:10 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:55 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am This game has been so hard for me to follow It takes me at least a half hour to catch up on reading everything after I leave and come back. I don't know why me voting for nutella who did not flip town and mac who is not confirmed town must mean I'm bad. I voted for mac because I thought his gameplay matched his other mafia gameplay before. We still don't know that mac isn't bad. I can see why people think I'm not playing well this game and that's a fair assessment because I'm having a hard time keeping up and making reads there is so much going on. So yeah I am trying my best and I always think it's better to be honest and to at least try to put my vote somewhere that I think makes sense than to make up fake reads or not vote at all. People always think I'm scummy because my posts are weird and my gameplay style doesn't make sense to them.
It’s more that your vote pattern fits a radish teammate
You also voted mac over radishes so what does that say about you? I have said before I'm not familiar with radishes and had nothing to compare to. I know they are newer here and don't know a lot of people and I didnt know if they came off as scummy because of that. When I played in all my circuits this happened to therealet and everyone gave them a super hard time and they ended up being civ. I didn't have any real read on radishes so I didnt vote there. When I made my post about mac and TH the reason I included both of them is because they were the wagons with the most votes so I put my thoughts on both. Then I saw slooneis post town reading TH which led me more in the direction of voting mac over TH at the time. Then I wasn't around because I was busy IRL. That's about it. I always think it's so funny when people look way too far into what I'm doing when there isn't anything behind it.

It says I’m not cleared of being radishes partner.

It also says I treated him exactly the same way D1, when I was confirmed town

I get it’s probably annoying for you, but like...I’m not saying you’re definitely scum, just that you’re in a pool of people whose voting pattern fits a radish partner.

It still wasn’t a slip btw, baddie is literally in the OP

A slip would’ve been something like referring to someone by their real name when he’d have no way of knowing that in thread, for example

Welcome back nutella!

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:31 am I have no idea where I’d put my vote now. Maybe on Radishes but that feels like a cop out because I don’t suspect Radishes I just don’t see anything townie in him and he’s probably the player here whose game I have the weakest grasp of.
This is such a teammate thing to say, specifically the line "I don't suspect Radishes I just don't see anything townie in him"; that's how someone talks about their guilty friend

That sounds a lot like what I said about radishes D1 tbf

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am A question: if we all know what a derp looks like, and we all could reasonably emulate it, why don’t you see it more often? I can’t remember the last time scum town cleated themself with something like that.
The only possible example in this game is Sig going after Radish for saying baddie. Sig might have been right. Ironically, because he might have been right, I need to re-examine Sig.
Yea maybe listen to sigs wild theories next time and we could've lynched scum day 1.

Uh listening to you D1 wouldve TKed me, so....pass

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am This game has been so hard for me to follow It takes me at least a half hour to catch up on reading everything after I leave and come back. I don't know why me voting for nutella who did not flip town and mac who is not confirmed town must mean I'm bad. I voted for mac because I thought his gameplay matched his other mafia gameplay before. We still don't know that mac isn't bad. I can see why people think I'm not playing well this game and that's a fair assessment because I'm having a hard time keeping up and making reads there is so much going on. So yeah I am trying my best and I always think it's better to be honest and to at least try to put my vote somewhere that I think makes sense than to make up fake reads or not vote at all. People always think I'm scummy because my posts are weird and my gameplay style doesn't make sense to them.

It’s more that your vote pattern fits a radish teammate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:50 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:56 am By votes jack is a viable partner for radishes.

By tone he’s probably town.
By toan says noted Jack expert Nanook the conqueror.

Oh right I forgot I’m only allowed to make RNG reads.

A massive eye roll and a hearty fuck off

By votes jack is a viable partner for radishes.

By tone he’s probably town.

thats basically heresy jfc

not watching BTAS is a borderline crime tbh

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:15 pm D1 Nanook is confirmed you dipstick

Anyways, sabie and Dom are likely radish partners. Possibly one between jay/SvS/sloonei as well cause syndicate likes to bus.
Why Dom?

Nutella and Mac votes

D1 Nanook is confirmed you dipstick

Anyways, sabie and Dom are likely radish partners. Possibly one between jay/SvS/sloonei as well cause syndicate likes to bus.

As in, my D1 vote and my D2 shouldn’t be treated as coming from the same person

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:11 pm Day 1
Radish voters: Jay, ted, SVS, Michelle, Sloonei, Dizzy
nutella voters: Nanook, Turnip, sabie, Jack, Mac, Dom

Day 2
Radish voters: Tony, Jay, SVS, Sloonei, Epi, juliets, Mac, Colin, Turnip
Mac voters: speedchuck, sig, jack, dom, sabie, sprit, nanook

Excuse me, why am I in red? D1 Nanook is a flipped townie, my nutella vote is confirmed pure

D1 nanook and D2 nanook are functionally different players for VCA purposes, and D1 Nanook is a flipper townie

Did you really just shade me for voting nutella D1

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:56 pm Should be a teammate between the D1 nutella voters and the D2 mac voters. I’ll look for overlap when I’m not at 10%
G-man almost certainly.

Do you have a list

Should be a teammate between the D1 nutella voters and the D2 mac voters. I’ll look for overlap when I’m not at 10%

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:50 pm Also I'm a bit salty at y'all that only like 3 people bothered to acknowledge my post.

I acknowledged you bb

Eh we’ll see

If he’s scum the game gets a lot easier so fingers crossed

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 pm I don’t even think radishes is a bad kill, I just don’t understand why we aren’t killing mac tbh
Lynch this guy please

You don’t have the Jimmy Johnson’s

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:37 pm Is there a reason that a 3p’s reads are being trusted, or...? 3p is not town and we don’t have their wincon.
i'll also note for those who don't know that nutella is literally never not suspicious of me.

This isn’t relevant imo but go off

I don’t even think radishes is a bad kill, I just don’t understand why we aren’t killing mac tbh

I mean great she agrees that mac is scum, yay, but putting her reads as part of your reasoning is pretty garbage imo

Is there a reason that a 3p’s reads are being trusted, or...? 3p is not town and we don’t have their wincon.

If radishes is scum I supported this the whole time.

If he flips town then I’m gonna say I told you so.

Stay the course lads, imo

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