The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:13 pm A project.

Dizzy town
Guillo dunno
HK poe
Marmot poe
Michelle town
SVS prob t
Scotty idk
Urist idk

Copy paste this list and tell me why they're town please

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:05 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:03 pm Did wilgy make the shot? Is he clear or do we think that's big distance lol

I am going to e-slap the next person who remotely implies this.

Probability game.

Wilgy just killed a wolf. The wolves are now behind.

If its big distance you don't bother speculating. You give him the chance now to self resolve and treat him like a clear. You leave the tinfoil for day 7. You know this.

i didnt imply this I asked what people thought about wilgy because I can kill him tonight if I wanted to. It's important for me to soak up opinions that I'll see

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:16 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:06 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:03 pm Did wilgy make the shot? Is he clear or do we think that's big distance lol

@Lilypetal who did you poison last night?

I don't poison. I marked Wilgy.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:45 pm I'm voting [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine. Don't ask anything of me ever again.

Ender, give this man another gun

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:35 pm How many derp clears is Rondo gonna go for this game?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:43 pm Nice!

That confirms imo both 1 mafia team and Wilgy as civ

Yikes

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:01 pm FUCK YEAH I HAVE A GUN

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:24 pm I have WIM to shoot a mafia slot based on spew tbh tbh

But somehow I feel cursed with vigs

Please get your submissions in. I may or may not follow them. Good night!

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:03 pm Did wilgy make the shot? Is he clear or do we think that's big distance lol

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:05 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:02 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:57 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Good shot DrW

Why are you voting for me?

To tie the wagons. I don't have a read on you

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:02 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:57 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Good shot DrW

Why are you voting for me?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:25 pm master radishes
5
21%


Voters: Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Party Crasher, Marmot, Michelle

If radishes is scum then there is no way all of these people are town

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:29 pm Home and catching up.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:20 am I am waiting for the read from Svs after she reads my posts tbh

:popcorn

OK, I read and or skimmed your iso, mainly for tone rather than content. I also skimmed your Game 1. In Game one, I knew from my first post that you were bad; you would show up when mentioned only, and only say the bare minimum, and evade any real talk of suspects. You had zero interactions with people who would up being teammates, while here you've mentioned or engaged with pretty much everyone. And with the known baddies you interacted with Alison extensively, and quite a bit with Sabi. Less with Sean, but in Game 1 you didn't interact with any of your teammates, which, for me, was a tell of yours from that game.

Your game here is very differnt. You're not a top ten poster, but you're engaging, trying to find things out rather than trying to avoid discussing them.

I think maybe Golfen is remembering your game in Game 1 from the Rose Colored glasses of baddie team win. If he goes back there and looks at it without that bias, he would not be voting for you here, imo.

So has Wilgy shot anyone yet? I followed along a bit, but not for the past few hours.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do

PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.

Fruit vendor is NAI. Can be town, can be mafia, can be a fake claim or a 3rd party.

If this is totally crazy feel free to shoot me down but,

All the mafia team are food flavored right?

We have a fruit and bean vendor.

Do we think 1 or both are/is bad or the lost wolves?

Or am I reading into the text to much

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do

PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.

Fruit vendor is NAI. Can be town, can be mafia, can be a fake claim or a 3rd party.

Obviously I can't prove my alignment with it, but nutella and Neon can vouch that is indeed my role.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do

PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:31 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:29 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:25 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:24 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:01 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:00 pm So like shoot me if you want but also don't. Either way I'll end up disappointed.

whats your role?

VT

Kiwi VT or literal VT?

Just plain VT.

@112 @DrWilgy @Dyslexicon @falcon45ca @Guillotine @hollowkatt @Michelle @Porscha @RondoDimBuckle @S~V~S @Scotty @Sloonei @Urist

are any of you plain VTs? im asking coz we dont have any plain vt flips

-t

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:00 pm hkatt isnt posting coz he's ill irl

112 also explained the situation behind her not being able to post

its not game relevant, it just is what it is, they could be either alignment

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:13 am Oh right there's S~V~S too

S~V~S is a hard null but like hard nulls are likely to be wolves because that's usually where wolves are

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 pm Is there any rush to make this shot?

Yeah, I gotta do it or I'll end up shootin myself. Seeing how active I am and that certain mistakes have been made before by me procrastinating, I'd like to at least have it submitted around 24 hours in.

The potential of removing myself from play is tempting all things considered.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:54 pm What's with Hollowkatt voting off wagons?

When's the last time HK posted? It feels like they've been ghosting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:42 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:36 pm marmot said that he selfishly didnt wanna vote mac yesterday ...

so that he can survive and give out ... trees?

pretty much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:06 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:24 pm I thought there was one bad team because of how the tie breaker rule is worded:

Voting is plurality by default, with no hammer. If there is a change to how voting works, it will be announced. Ties are determined by the group mafia. If no tiebreaker is submitted within 5-10 minutes of the day ending, the tie will be resolved in mafia’s favor (and/or randomized if the tie is between players of the same alignment

This implies one mafia, does it not?

Oh. This is a good catch.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:26 pm Quite curious to find out why Ender is voting me in particular.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:20 pm My Nanook read is that Party Crasher is either an NPC (via Secret Playerlist), or some other form of benign 3P, because the Game of Champions is generally an invitational for players who won a game the previous year, thus since there's a hydra of players who did not win any games the prior year, my guess is that they would not be put on a primary faction in this game.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:42 pm

Spoiler: show

In the night!

@Dennis dies and flips TOWN

@ilario dies and flips MOD SQUAD, THIRD PARTY

Spoiler: show

@Le petit poussin dies and flips TOWN
@pyxxy dies and flips TOWN
@Sabiplz dies and flips SOUP MAFIA
@TonyStarkPrime dies and flips TOWN

Dennis:

**Beans**

Every night target a player and send them a can of beans. Lol.

Ilario:

Redacted lol

Le petit poussin:

You signed up for a mafia game, but now you also get to play DnD! Kind of!! Yay!!!

Here's a server: redacted lol

Please note that your fellow DnD players are NOT guaranteed to be town.

Pyxxy:

**Kiwi Townie:**

You're a vanilla town, but with a gun. It's only for self-defense though, you're not a savage. On days you received at least two eod votes, you will reflexively shoot someone that visits you the following night. If multiple people visit you, one will be chosen at random.

Sabi:

**Vanilla Soup**

Vanilla soup? Yuck. Anyways you have no powers, good luck good luck.

tsp

**Good Old Fashioned Detective Work**

During the day, pick a player. The following night you will be told who they visited on previous nights, if anyone.

Example: on D3 you target nanook. On n3 you are told that nanook visited sabie on n1, and fingers on n2.

You may not target the same person on consecutive days.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:00 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:34 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:14 pm Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

(i colored the flips)

maybe we should sheep queen lucy the goat? she was top priority for mafia to kill

we could but cape being green and at the bottom means a top read can be red.
I know I am green so me in the Alison tier is another wrong read.
I don't say that to discredit her reads, I want just to explain the obvious.

I hope we flip Radishes toDay because rn he looks the worst

Wow. I’m green but lol

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:34 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:14 pm Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

(i colored the flips)

maybe we should sheep queen lucy the goat? she was top priority for mafia to kill

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?

Tried to save Seanzie.

Capital crime!
What do you say in your defence @Dyslexicon ?

Hello!

I see I have votes on me. I did not try to save Sean, no. In fact, I listened to Nut and whoever else in their Sean suspicion and I genuinely feel I helped push him and the general PoE which I felt was good last day. I think maybe I'm playing supporting cast here, but saying I was trying to save Sean is just wrong and I'm pretty confident that whatever suspicion is on me isn't garnered from actually going through my play critically.

I'll quickly explain my perspective. I felt like the general PoE and the wagons we had (Sean, Rondo, SVS) was good, and there was definitely mafia in it, so what I tried to do was keep all wagons as an option throughout the day, because that could be very revealing later when the PoE is cleared up and if there are town in the PoE. I always preferred Sean > Rondo myself though, because Sean had claimed KP. The reason I voted Marmot at EoD is that I really believed he was mafia in the moment, because of his posts at EoD. I just played a game where Marmot was mafia, and it has felt much the same to me as here at points. I thought he was town enough on D1 and didn't really think much about it. He completely dropped off D2 (and yes, I know he's busy), but also some awkward posts right at EoD, which was how I caught him last game. Especially him not voting Mac and not acknowledging the request from Scotty, I thought was bad. He said he did comment on it today though, and I still haven't went back to check that, but I didn't see it at EoD. If he did respond to it, that's my mistake. But fact remains, I thought Marmot was mafia at EoD still, and his vote on Sean I could see both as a bus or a piling on. So yeah, I may have freaked out a little bit and did get cold feet on Sean, I can concede that. But I didn't know Sean's alignment, and I think that is pretty clear, and also a much more relevant thing to consider if people are trying to solve me critically. We already know mafia was willing to bus Sean after Alison's flip. Pretty sure Alison had her vote on Sean from pretty early on. And if I'm not mistaken, Sean voted Rondo, so it's a very bad effort of me if I had some grand plan to save Sean. Which may reflect good on Rondo when I think I'm town and I did what I did in the moment, and it's genuine. I could've stuck the course on Sean, but I also feel like I helped box him in in the first placed, actually by listening to other players, which is something I do well as town. I think my whole D2 pretty aptly shows some of my strengths and weaknesses as town. (Also, I know it doesn't work this way, but when Sean said he was 1-shot, I didn't see a reason for him over others in my PoE anymore, not considering that he obviously could just lie. Which is also revealing about me.)

Anyway, that's some of my perspective on that. And I don't really want to use a lot of time defending myself, but am happy to expand on what my perspective is. That's basically all I can do about that.

There's a bunch of things I haven't checked yet. I haven't gone through Sean or Alison spew even. I'm also not sure if this is multi ball or not. So I'm very much not so sure anymore on where I stand. So I do ask for some patience there, as per usual, game day starts and I get left behind because of the timing of it. I'll be around later tonight though.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:30 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:28 am Before i turn to work, what's your read for me tutuu?

Ive no clue honestly i forgot how to read you

Dz also kept going back and forth

Initially i scumread u and he townread u. Then just as i switched and townread u he started scumreading u lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?

Tried to save Seanzie.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:18 am Tutuu do you remember when i suspected you an entire game for being nice and fuzzy?
What if Rondo decided to be tamed and sensible out of the blue?

Thats illegal

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:16 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:04 am Radishes is scum as well.

Good to know

How do you figure

Because he's not doing anything but be irreverent so far and Michelle is trying to prod him.

I say we wagon him.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:51 am I also dont know how marmot managed to weasel his way out of being poe

That slimy little beaver keeps getting away with it

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:50 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:48 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:47 am I dont know how come rondo isnt being sussed so much anymore but i also HAVENT READ LMAO!!!!!

Who are you?

Im the smartest one

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:47 am I dont know how come rondo isnt being sussed so much anymore but i also HAVENT READ LMAO!!!!!

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:43 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:42 am Wait is Radishes a zero poster today? Antispew?

Hes bri*ish

Day starts at midnight for him its 11:43 am for him now

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:34 am I think @DrWilgy should shoot 112 tho.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:58 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:50 am And thirdly, because I think she should be in the PoE, and needs decent examination today.

Answering at the other post as well, my town range is huge. My wolf range is not. Alison used to call me polarised. She didn't do that in this game because she knows i hate it and she didn't want my attention to switch on her.

Poe me as you like. Ama and if i can i will answer you or everyone else

She kinda did actually.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:16 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:13 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:10 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:07 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 pm[/spoiler]

The only read I came out with was Kate/Dennis not s/t. Why specifically Kate town? Just the first post, or?

Nearly every post. If that’s mafia Kate I’ll be shocked.

I believe you, but for all the wrong reasons.

Maybe the wrong reasons are the right reasons this time.

Is this a confession?

I dunno what you think the wrong reasons and the right reasons are but last time you trusted me your instincts were good.

I'm accusing you of TMI.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:19 pm [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Why Golden?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:25 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:22 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:18 pm YOU KNOW WHAT


Urist + Kate + Seanzie.

Why has Seanzie not gone full tilt on me? He goes full tilt on me harder than mac and I have had a breezier opening this game than ever against Seanzie. Ender has called me out as wolf and Seanzie gives me a pass? WHAAAAAAAT?! Seanzie + Ender?

Who are you?

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

you do you, bro.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:29 pm I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:30 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:27 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:21 pm

I'm accusing you of TMI.

I’ve no evidence that’s possible in this game and you’ve no evidence I’ve ever TMIed in my mafia career.

And yet...

I mean I love a good accusation

Exciting, isn't it? The thrill of the chase?

So, care to elaborate?

What am I elaborating on?

I'd prefer the names of your wolf team, but I'll settle on why Kate is town. You've made the claim, but I don't see any thought behind it.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:44 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:42 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:29 pm I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Oh, I love me some funk... just not when it comes to gambits. Gambits too quick, too soon, too funky, no thank you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:54 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:52 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:48 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:41 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:38 pm Kate is bad for sure
Dyslexicon might be not bad

I'm definitely vanilla civ. Yay game

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Don't think GOC usually has VTs, and going out of your way to claim it when you could just say "I'm definitely town" is doubly weird.

Why you no respond to me?

What do you want me to respond to you about? I said my role, you said you'd elim it. Good for you. I'm not going into specifics for obvious reasons so...

Why Golden?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:55 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:53 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:51 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:46 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:40 pm Golden defense of Kate is bad
Scotty unvoting Kate is bad and sad

Scumlean.

Characterising a town read as a ‘defense’ is inherently about trying to make people feel a certain way.

You are literally defending Kate, don't try to pull this semantic shit it will 100% not work

It’s not semantic shit. The same event can be characterised in different ways, the choice of how you characterise it is meaningful.

I'm not characterizing anything, you are literally defending Kate.

I’m town reading Kate. I don’t think she has done anything required a defence, and she didn’t even have a vote when I made my townread. Hard to see ‘defending’ language as anything other than a choice.

I am LITERALLY defending scotty with my vote. Your not talking about that.

Yeah... okay. I believe you.