The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:58 pm For self-preservation.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:56 pm I feel I should vote Logic. If he does flip scum I'm a mafia god for that Dya and Samu are mafia I'm a mafia god-post. =p

You *should* be voting me for nothing else than self preservation.

CFDs have been started for less

I do try to be pleasant and kind.
I'm quite happy you found me to be the same.

Who knows? I may jump on here from time to time.

It's not bad, but not great either.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:28 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 pm Ok Juliet's, Please explain long con.
He's obviously not getting yeeted, yet that's where you currently stand.
I had a long post that explains my vote which is here:

viewtopic.php?p=666074#p666074

I'm thinking about Dizzy, he slanked through a lot of the game but then I thought he was pretty towny. Like he helped out Samu unless that was a giant mistake on his and Samu's part.

I'm not seeing you as bad either but I don't know if my reasons are good enough.

Ok, I remember your long con case now.

Idfk
And I don't really think I need to defend myself: I need to hunt scum and hope I give you guys more to go on because of how many chances we've got to go. As it stands, I'm a little better than dead weight because of what *I've* done.

I'm being cleared (or not cleared) mostly for Dya, which is fine; the slot as a whole must be considered.

I'm really glad no one asked me to explain dya's reads or processes, because that is the only thing I hate about subbing in.
If I could answer questions like that, I'd be a hell of a lot better at mafia.

Ok Juliet's, Please explain long con.
He's obviously not getting yeeted, yet that's where you currently stand.

I thought it was 10. Lol

Glhf town.
My contribution appears at an end.

Well that quote failure and subsequent typo wasn't intentional.

Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:08 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

But I am town. Sorry I wasn't able to show it better this game. I don't have time for this right now. I did what I could with the time I had, and I do think I should be cleared. But obviously, there are others cleared. But if I'm at the very bottom of the PoE, then PoE is simply wrong. So. Weh.
Just because *you* are "at the bottom of the POE" doesn't mean the POE is wrong.

The POE is wrong if it contains no scum.

I gotta say, I don't like this statement. It feels a little too ATE for my tastes.
Lol, of course you don't. But you voted DOZZY so you lose. Or do I lose? Lol
(I don't know if anyone is going to believe me, but I've got a nor mg sense of humor and "fizzy" was intentional.)
Typos, schmypos
[VOTE: Fizzy] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:08 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

But I am town. Sorry I wasn't able to show it better this game. I don't have time for this right now. I did what I could with the time I had, and I do think I should be cleared. But obviously, there are others cleared. But if I'm at the very bottom of the PoE, then PoE is simply wrong. So. Weh.
Just because *you* are "at the bottom of the POE" doesn't mean the POE is wrong.

The POE is wrong if it contains no scum.

I gotta say, I don't like this statement. It feels a little too ATE for my tastes.
Lol, of course you don't. But you voted DOZZY so you lose. Or do I lose? Lol

Typos, schmypos
[VOTE: Fizzy] aubergine

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] the least you can do is take your fate into your own hands and vote for me. You are only 1 vote switch from being eliminated instead of me.

[VOTE: dozzy] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

But I am town. Sorry I wasn't able to show it better this game. I don't have time for this right now. I did what I could with the time I had, and I do think I should be cleared. But obviously, there are others cleared. But if I'm at the very bottom of the PoE, then PoE is simply wrong. So. Weh.

Just because *you* are "at the bottom of the POE" doesn't mean the POE is wrong.

The POE is wrong if it contains no scum.

I gotta say, I don't like this statement. It feels a little too ATE for my tastes.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:01 pm ftr, i do not scumread mac

im leaning on it being in logic/dys

Could you explain why you are voting someone you don't scumread?

Why aren't you voting for me/dizzy?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:18 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:17 pm Oops thats screwed up - Logic and you understand what I'm saying there?
Damnit -
Logic can you understand what I'm saying there?

Cross posted, but I figured it out. Lol. Thanks.

Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:07 pm @Logic what are you seeing re:Poison Chan that needs clarification?
Which part that asterisk text goes to.

It looks like a non sequitur to me.

NEVERMIND

Line one makes a hell of a lot more sense as stated when "anti-town" guesses your role.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:07 pm @Logic what are you seeing re:Poison Chan that needs clarification?

Which part that asterisk text goes to.

It looks like a non sequitur to me.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:00 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:13 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 pm Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine
Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)
If I read it, I don't remember it.
I went with SPF over dizzy because I cannot fathom a mac vote right now, and SPF doesn't look cleared to me.

Dizzy doesn't look great either, but I can at least understand a vote for "no one" despite it being fairly suboptimal.
what do you understand about it? you're saying it as if it's alignment indicative.

Voting no one I can understand coming from a town perspective (in a "I don't wanna vote any of these wagons because i think they're all town!" ) even if I disagree with the methodology; votng is town's weapon - use your damn vote on those you believe to be scum and don't abstain.

While spf voting mac, someone I clearly townread, seems like a waste of a vote and an excuse to be contrarian and "correct" when the vote flips.

I also don't remember anything SPF has said prior, so this Mac vote kinda came out of nowhere.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:16 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 pm I have two abilities.
3 X lie detecting - used 2 (N3- Dr. Wilgy), (N5- Ted)
3 X conditional role cop - used 2 (N1 - Nude), (N2- Codex)

Conditions -

1.If any town guesses your role right you won't be getting the full role card for that night.

2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

N1 - I got only "Nude is the mafia role cop" N2 - I got the entire Codex role card.
*if any anti town

Wait a minute.
This needs clarification.
Especially the asterisk line.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:13 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 pm Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine
lol @ the implication that i could be mafia after i hardpushed on all of the flipped mafia (minus samu) and single handedly cleared myself through the way they interacted with me

Then who the heck is the mafia? Because it sure as heck ain't mac.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:13 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 pm Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine
Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)

If I read it, I don't remember it.
I went with SPF over dizzy because I cannot fathom a mac vote right now, and SPF doesn't look cleared to me.

Dizzy doesn't look great either, but I can at least understand a vote for "no one" despite it being fairly suboptimal.

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

I wanna vote SPF, but I think I should vote dizzy on principle for
actively voting "no one"

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:41 pm As in, of course, I have cool things on my windowsill and I feel good about them.

I just had AC installed, so I'm quite cool.
(Though I'm metaphorically quote a square.)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:11 am 1 mafia left at f10 and a whole buncho effective clears says no sir stop being a doomsayers.

Hey! I already said this just before SOD.
Don't you go taking the wind out of my sails!
(Or actually, maybe we need more people pumping up the town, because morale is not where I would think a 10v1(v1?) should be.)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:02 am I think we ride or die with all the green checks unless one is still alive at f3.

I think Ted is town too.

Poison Chan has acted as a cop and outed a mafia pr n1.

Dizzy has ok claims.

Ride or die the green checks: I'm all for this plan.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:13 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:10 pm Unless the redirector and/or godfather situation is in play. In which case LC is a bigger chance than Oddmerta and Nanook is very unlikely.

It would be nice to know wtf SPF is doing though. Tempted to just info flip her lol.
I think based on the alison cop checks, a winning strategy is most likely flip the two uncleared and then worry about redirector/godfather if we fail to get the mafia in them.

So, I guess this is me half-heartedly offering up a thunderdome?
You consider yourself uncleared?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 10 bucks says you end up in an f3 lol.

Unless I misread things, Alison didn't get around to green checking me or spf.

I say flip the two of us first, then if there is still a scum left, it ain't my problem, lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:10 pm Unless the redirector and/or godfather situation is in play. In which case LC is a bigger chance than Oddmerta and Nanook is very unlikely.

It would be nice to know wtf SPF is doing though. Tempted to just info flip her lol.

I think based on the alison cop checks, a winning strategy is most likely flip the two uncleared and then worry about redirector/godfather if we fail to get the mafia in them.

So, I guess this is me half-heartedly offering up a thunderdome?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:04 pm Nobody really has any tracks left aside from Logic. So there's gonna be no more info here unless @Poison Chan has something to say. So town gonna have to root this last one out the old fashioned way.

Nope: I'm out of tracks.
Dizzy has her conditional racks left, I think.

Welp.
I tracked Alison to me.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:18 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:58 pm This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.
Mmmm good pep talk Logic!

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I choose to view it as not.

(Besides, with all these commitments to slanking, I want to shore up town's drive to hunt so I get to slank.)

This sure is a lot of woe from a town that nailed 3 mafia in the first 4 days.

Calm down and focus. Hunt. We have plenty of chances to get this right.

Also, I put in my track, so I'm out after tonight.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:24 pm Hair-washing tell. Hard mafia.

This tell isn't exactly new to me, but how?

The coffee tell I get. The sleep deprived I get. But hair washing?
Can someone explain to me that one?

I'm beginning to like the "bomb threat" justification explanation, but just ugh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:49 pm Bomb threat rules can eat my ass. Tutuu was town and shouldn't have been yeeted for making a joke.

While I thought tutuu was town, I also thought the claim went beyond a joke.

Oh crap. I knew I was supposed to vote in the poll. I don't know why I forgot to properly vote.

Anyway, I have a track in mind that I don't want to disclose, but I am willing to hear suggestions.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:46 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:31 pm @tedxtr could you remind me what makes you lock town besides Poison's check on you? (I'm exempting Poison's check because of the part of Herm's role that says more than one non-civilian can be on an album.) Sorry if you are repeating yourself, just give me the basics and I'll ask questions about anything I don't understand.
1) I was tracked to Nanook on N2

As a scum, I don’t have much to do at Nanook that benefits me or hurts the village. Nanook fake softed a doc that he dropped after being pushed and hard claimed a role that’s kind of useless for town and doesn’t put mafia in danger.

The only argument I got for this was that I rolecopped Nanook because I didn’t buy his claim, which is now refuted bt Samu flipping as cop.

This makes me lock town.

2) Hermie’s role checks for non-civilians on albums. He was told there are no non-civilians on Kid A and King of the Limbs.

I was confirmed Kid A album by Poison last night.

That makes me lock non-3p.

(I am not sure if he checks for non-civilians or just not scum but I believe that’s how his role worked, I may be misremembering so you should read his flip again while confirming / denying this)

Ok, I guess I can confirm this bolded part.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:52 pm
Logic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:31 pm I think I'm going to [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine for now, because of the drwilgy nk.

The only for sure person I've got in my town is Alison, but I'm not seeing a ton of scum motivation from anyone, so I may end up just sheeping her.

For now, I don't know if that stunt was a winning strategy no matter tutuu's alignment, but I don't think she's the best chop today, so that's where I stand on tutuu.
Didn't Dizzy out Samu or am I misremembering that?

This is news to me, but I am open to persuasion.

I think I'm going to [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine for now, because of the drwilgy nk.

The only for sure person I've got in my town is Alison, but I'm not seeing a ton of scum motivation from anyone, so I may end up just sheeping her.

For now, I don't know if that stunt was a winning strategy no matter tutuu's alignment, but I don't think she's the best chop today, so that's where I stand on tutuu.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:21 am @Logic whats ur result from tonight and how many shots u got left?

@Dyslexicon how many shots u got left?

Because I answered Juliet's same question and feel like you deserve a ping back:
I targeted no one last night and saved my track shot.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:04 pm @Logic who did you track last night?

No one.
I opted to save my single remaining shot since I came in to the game state trying to catch up and would have a better idea of who to use it on after a day of being in thread myself.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:40 am Is it 24 hours or 48 hours today?

I'm really hoping still 48 hour days, because I don't wanna try-hard.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:30 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:26 am The only time it's funny for non-tutu people is if tutu is actually 3p that incorrectly thought they had a locked win. Or if they're a jester ig but if there's a game ending jester in this game I will riot.

Otherwise it's just kinda dickish.
Mafia is about having fun!
Why did you wait until the day started to rescind your stunt? Were you trying to influence the actions of the other players?

See from a town perspective, you have to go

I'm on the fence about tutuu.
I believe that's more likely a town stunt, but the "anti-town" past actions doesn't mean always yeet to me.

It does put tutuu perpetually in the POE, but I wanna see if the dead wolves make any good associations with tutuu before I agree with condemning someone for what amounts to a poorly played stunt.

That being said, I only marginally think dizzy has any kind of scum equity, and that's solely because of the Wilgy NK.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:16 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:15 am I dont rly know how to solve a game with a redirector it turns everything on its head
have you considered scumreading

not sure if you know about that method but it involves looking at someone's day play and trying to figure out if it's coming from scum or town. it's a pretty obscure tactic but it works well for me

Well this is a fire response.

I've been wondering why Alison was acting as if she was innocent child, but this response is just about the right frame of mind for a frustrated townie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:47 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:45 pm I dont think dizzy being mafia and outing a track on his own teammate to me on the night i got roleblocked (and he outed it after i outed the roleblock) means dizzy has more scum equity than spf
Shhhh, you're not supposed to speak logic. I'm in the PoE because slanking and such. Must be yeeted. =p

I may be taking this more literally than I should, but are you talking to/about me?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:55 pm I did put my protect on Wilgy last night as planned so he wouldn't be role blocked but that doesn't do any good in the face of a kill. I feel like I wasted my action because as Dizzy pointed out Wilgy couldn't even track unless it was one of the random abilities.

I don't think a protection action on a player is a waste. It shows you had good instincts and that there is some more missing info.

Maybe I can laugh after you explain your n1 action

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