Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Logic]

As in, of course, I have cool things on my windowsill and I feel good about them.

I just had AC installed, so I'm quite cool.
(Though I'm metaphorically quote a square.)

[Logic]

I wanna vote SPF, but I think I should vote dizzy on principle for
actively voting "no one"

[Logic]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

[tedxtr]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)

[juliets]

I read through dya's ISO and I just don't see mafia. I'll read through the claims against her that were earlier today again now that I've gone through the ISO. Also want to check how Hally read her. She and Hally were wolves together in another game and have read each other correctly after that in what I have seen.

[Poison]

It's hard to describe it, it's a way of messing up your entire built thought process in order to refute a single argument because you have TMI

She basically argued against her ability being town sided in order for me to drop my line that pushed a 3p angle on her. Does that make sense?

As a town, how could you possibly put yourself in a 3p's shoes like that? How could you, as a town, argue that your ability is not town sided?

actually - don't reply to that

@Poison Chan what did you mean with that question? "Does it work like that?" like what were you referring to?

I'm like...the most confident on Poison being 3p here.

Don't think she walks into toDay with a list of town reads and going "These are probably town because of some mechanic that I don't know, but I've seen it working a past time so it's gotta be right this time"

???

feel like she'd care about the game more as town here but I am not that convinced about that because of other stuff.

It's about pretending to care about the game but actually not caring at all.

something like that

if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

You reckon poison has higher 3p chance than spf?

Yeah

what kinda town walks into D7, neglects all of their reads and goes

"Yeah magpie prolly town and everyone who said it was probably town"

poison should be more paranoid than that and have more complex reads, she doesn't care for the game

I guess it's not as solid because it's dependent on whether she actually cares about this game as a town but anecdotally speaking ; she should be more engaging here, whereas she's starting to become more and more detached, thinking it's because she's close to reaching her wincon

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] you realise exactly how weak your line of argument is here?

- first, talking about my activity/engagement - I'm generally More engaging as town. But did you see my recent games? Okay I'll link you up to my last 4 games. 4. 1 on WG, 1 on TB, 1 on our homesite [literally Nika called me the worst player she has ever seen cause I stopped caring about the game and barely posted the minimum required posts] , and the one I just played with you on MU. It's not something AI for me, the engagement and activity to guess my alignment. I'm just exhausted, I was planning to take a break for a while but couldn't. I have been playing multiple games at a time for some time now. Just exhausted.

It's day 7 for God's sake Ted!! With the thread open at night. Can you even think how much that is for me? Ughh.

- "Does it work that way"? "she won't put herself in the shoes of 3P as town"

First, I meant "Does it work that way" as in would a 3P do it like that at all? Okay, you don't have to trust me, do you have any idea what 3P experience I have? Have you seen me play a 3P before? You can boldly predict when I'm a scum or not and you can mess up this this bad?

Look ted, first, both as town or scum, 3p 4p or any other thing, I would always put my self in my opponent alignment's shoes cause that's how you can have an idea. Although the question was totally misunderstood by you cause I meant would 3P be doing that at all?

Morning Mr. Magpie, first, that's not my role, I have no mech regarding it either,that's simply a theory I came up with from previous experience. That's wrong? When I said specifically that I'm not 100% sure on it either but I still gave my views on it cause I would like to believe in it from what I have experienced before. This is not the first time I am presenting you theories which you won't buy but I strongly feel that way, if you really wanna see it with your own eyes just dig the Poison-SK arguments in each games you'll know.

[tedxtr]

poison talk about your entire info

[tedxtr]

you have been hoarding info since d1, it's d7, what do you have

[Poison]

if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

I have literally hard scum read him since day 1. Wdym?

[Poison]

poison talk about your entire info

Yo wtf at least read what I posted i wrote that with sleepy eyes and you don't even read it. RUDE. RUDE.

[tedxtr]

Poison, I'm not arguing you're a wolf, I'm arguing you're a 3p

Idc if you push scum lmao, you don't have info on them

[tedxtr]

out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.

[Poison]

you have been hoarding info since d1, it's d7, what do you have

The only info I didn't talk about was my two conditions. I said everything other than those QUITE in details. Have you at all isoed me before making the wild assumption?

[tedxtr]

ok, talk about those again please

[Poison]

out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.

Again you didn't and don't read my posts. Okay ugh lemme write it all again and I can tell you my conditions but it is on you when I can't use the role cop card ability no more.

[tedxtr]

Also, I do admit the phrasing TMI thing is a stretch.

but you walking into D7 with a bold assumption for a town reads list isn't a stretch and it's a very solid argument still.

[tedxtr]

out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.

Again you didn't and don't read my posts. Okay ugh lemme write it all again and I can tell you my conditions but it is on you when I can't use the role cop card ability no more.

don't write conditions, just out results

[staypositivefriend]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

lol @ the implication that i could be mafia after i hardpushed on all of the flipped mafia (minus samu) and single handedly cleared myself through the way they interacted with me

[tedxtr]

but you walking into D7 with a bold assumption for a town reads list isn't a stretch and it's a very solid argument still.

Like, do I see you doing it as town? Probably.

My argument isn't that you are inactive and that is an indicator for you alignment. My point was more that you act like you care when you don't.

Again, you threw your entire reads for a huge leap of faith. I don't really know what your scum reads are.

Hunting for 3p is grasping for straws as is, if you were expecting me to out you without having any mechanical idea of what a 3p does then I'm sorry I didn't meet your expectations lol.

[staypositivefriend]

Mafia POE to me right noe is logic and ... logic

3p POE is PC and SPF

Game should be solved here I reckon. I'm pretty confident in having just read how dizzy handled Samu they weren't partners. Pretty confident nobody but SPF or PC is 3p.

break down for me how that's your 3p poe. how did you narrow those players down?

[Poison]

I have two abilities.
3 X lie detecting - used 2 (N3- Dr. Wilgy), (N5- Ted)
3 X conditional role cop - used 2 (N1 - Nude), (N2- Codex)

Conditions -

1.If any town guesses your role right you won't be getting the full role card for that night.

2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

N1 - I got only "Nude is the mafia role cop" N2 - I got the entire Codex role card.

[Poison]

out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.

Again you didn't and don't read my posts. Okay ugh lemme write it all again and I can tell you my conditions but it is on you when I can't use the role cop card ability no more.

don't write conditions, just out results

Yoooo/??!!??

[tedxtr]

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

[Poison]

I have two abilities.
3 X lie detecting - used 2 (N3- Dr. Wilgy), (N5- Ted)
3 X conditional role cop - used 2 (N1 - Nude), (N2- Codex)

Conditions -

1.If any town guesses your role right you won't be getting the full role card for that night.

2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

N1 - I got only "Nude is the mafia role cop" N2 - I got the entire Codex role card.

*if any anti town

[Poison]

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

[tedxtr]

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

We don't know if the 3p is a threat at all, but sure, take this as an ego boost or whatever.

[tedxtr]

so, basically you get like a roulette of 3 songs each night?

and if you don't perform any action on those ones, you get a new set the next night?

[Poison]

but you walking into D7 with a bold assumption for a town reads list isn't a stretch and it's a very solid argument still.

Like, do I see you doing it as town? Probably.

My argument isn't that you are inactive and that is an indicator for you alignment. My point was more that you act like you care when you don't.

Again, you threw your entire reads for a huge leap of faith. I don't really know what your scum reads are.

Hunting for 3p is grasping for straws as is, if you were expecting me to out you without having any mechanical idea of what a 3p does then I'm sorry I didn't meet your expectations lol.

Oh ted, you must think really highly of me, to expect 3P poison not freezing or getting yeeted and survives till day 7!? I mean, seriously? Even I would not believe that. Can you stop your tunneling view and like literally thinkyfor a second, is that at all possible!? I played more than 10-15 games with you I guess, and I would expect you to know my limitations quite well.

I had less doubts with your "I'll eat my toe if you scum" than this. Lmao. No matter when I flip, I'll be having a good laugh about this.

[Poison]

so, basically you get like a roulette of 3 songs each night?

and if you don't perform any action on those ones, you get a new set the next night?

No. I have to specify if I want to use it or not. If I say I want to use it, then the host sends me 3 songs.

[tedxtr]

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

So I don't get why you'd holster? Like it doesn't add up to me.

[tedxtr]

Oh

I am not talking about the lie detector, Poison.

I'm talking about the role cop.

[tedxtr]

nvm I think I got what you mean

alright

[Poison]

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

So I don't get why you'd holster? Like it doesn't add up to me.

Look. I get 3 songs, I don't know how many alignments are there, I don't know anything I just know 3 songs with no context whatsoever. I can however choose a song from before which were given to me along with the new set of song.

If I say used it on N4 or N6 and I had given one of the songs that flipped after those night, and I choose it, then it would be a waste right? You know what I mean? Look, the more narrow the list of songs get with confirmed flips, the greater chances of me hitting the lottery. I'm not good with maths but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

[Poison]

Mafia POE to me right noe is logic and ... logic

3p POE is PC and SPF

Game should be solved here I reckon. I'm pretty confident in having just read how dizzy handled Samu they weren't partners. Pretty confident nobody but SPF or PC is 3p.

Sure I won't mind hearing the things that are against me, I aam pretty confident I can clear everything. What is it that makes me a 3P to you [mention]MacDougall[/mention] ?

Also, how can you be 3P cleared when we know nothing about you in the end?

[Poison]

Okay you post it. It's 3: 14 am I'll go to bed.

[juliets]

In light of all the flips Dyachei's day one is very bad. She tried very hard to push Nanook. She was scumreading nut without engaging nut at all and then when nut claimed she was quick to accept it should buy her a night pushed nook again, lamented that nobody was moving, said nut was being bussed and didn't even more her vote off nut that she pasted there. No real effort to push her apparent scum read over someone she claimed deserved a night. I'd be surprised if it isn't simply that slot as mafia 5.

Joe, I don't think dya ever really has a good day 1. I agree she tried to push Nanook who now appears to all of us to be town. She read you as "solid villa" and sheeped your suspicion of nutella, noting also that nut had also not done much in this game, less than she did in anni. Also on day 1 she read DrWilgy as a town lean, Alison as town, tutuu as town, Hally as light town. Later on day 1 she saw Herm as town, Hally as lock villa. I'm not arguing that she didn't say nut deserved another night. She also said nut was being bussed but I don't know why you think that's a bad thing. And the way I saw her behavior she did attempt to push nanook, she brought him up all day long but had no takers so I don't agree that there was no attempt to push him. You say both she pushed him and didn't make an effort to push him in your argument.

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure dya/Logic is town, but if we're talking about Day 1 I see some good reads there along with a bad read on nanook. I mean it was day 1 - how many of us did not have a bad read at that point. So what I'm saying is I just don't see her day 1 as a good enough reason to vote for Logic.

[juliets]

I'm voting Long Con for now. I see him as a possible godfather or 3P though there may be an argument for there not being a godfather in the game (someone please explain it if there is). That still leaves 3P though.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[tedxtr]

Do you have any reasoning / could make a case?

[juliets]

Do you have any reasoning / could make a case?

For my Long Con vote? Yes, I explained it a little earlier. Do you want me to get the link?

[juliets]

[mention]tedxtr[/mention]

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[juliets]

I am having some random problems with my computer like it just shut down for no reason, it is not loading the site header, etc. so if I disappear you'll know what happened.

[tedxtr]

I actually really like your first point

I'll ponder on it

[staypositivefriend]

I'm voting Long Con for now. I see him as a possible godfather or 3P though there may be an argument for there not being a godfather in the game (someone please explain it if there is). That still leaves 3P though.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

i mean, i asked this question yesterday, but what evidence do we have to suggest that there is a godfather? i can not prove a negative

[tedxtr]

1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role?

I love this read lol

I want it to be correct, it's so good and I also thought about it

It's also a very funny argument to die from

[Logic]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)

If I read it, I don't remember it.
I went with SPF over dizzy because I cannot fathom a mac vote right now, and SPF doesn't look cleared to me.

Dizzy doesn't look great either, but I can at least understand a vote for "no one" despite it being fairly suboptimal.

[juliets]

I'm voting Long Con for now. I see him as a possible godfather or 3P though there may be an argument for there not being a godfather in the game (someone please explain it if there is). That still leaves 3P though.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

i mean, i asked this question yesterday, but what evidence do we have to suggest that there is a godfather? i can not prove a negative

Yes, I know spf. I can't think of evidence that proves it either and the only thing I can think of that disproves it is they killed Alison last night. Maybe that's enough evidence, or maybe they did it because they knew it would look that way - WIFOM galore. Anyway, my thought is he fits mafia or 3P.

[tedxtr]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)

If I read it, I don't remember it.
I went with SPF over dizzy because I cannot fathom a mac vote right now, and SPF doesn't look cleared to me.

Dizzy doesn't look great either, but I can at least understand a vote for "no one" despite it being fairly suboptimal.

what do you understand about it? you're saying it as if it's alignment indicative.

[Logic]

Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

lol @ the implication that i could be mafia after i hardpushed on all of the flipped mafia (minus samu) and single handedly cleared myself through the way they interacted with me

Then who the heck is the mafia? Because it sure as heck ain't mac.

[Logic]

I have two abilities.
3 X lie detecting - used 2 (N3- Dr. Wilgy), (N5- Ted)
3 X conditional role cop - used 2 (N1 - Nude), (N2- Codex)

Conditions -

1.If any town guesses your role right you won't be getting the full role card for that night.

2.If the 3P ever targets you you'll not get the list of 3 songs from which you can choose to inspect the role.

N1 - I got only "Nude is the mafia role cop" N2 - I got the entire Codex role card.

*if any anti town

Wait a minute.
This needs clarification.
Especially the asterisk line.

[juliets]

[mention]Logic[/mention] what are you seeing re:Poison Chan that needs clarification?