The Syndicate

Why are we voting DaughterOfOmega? I am confirming I received a message about voting CRichard although it doesn't mention a vig.

I am voting CRichard for the vig benefit. I am prob vigging one of the wagons.

Damn I forgot deadline was today.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:24 pm I gave Creature a vig if he votes Mac. thats my role its one shot, and its kinda weak but

yeah

Alright I got told to vote CRichard/Mac yeah.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:32 am

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:06 am My initial reads from day 1 are Chihiro lucy and pyxxy as lean mafia. CRichard Roxy and sig as lean town. And null for the others

lolMac

Oh lol I got JDizz10 and Mac mixed up.

Thank fuck that's not Mac wolfreading pyxxy D1.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:38 am

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:59 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN CREATURE

Been too busy. I am trying to finish college stuff. I am afraid I might not be able to pay attention to this game. Especially when there are way too many players to resolve yet.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

Lucy claimed 3rd party, yet she is town siding way more than the town is doing collectively right now.
I can see myself voting Jack to resolve D1 CW.
Jack might have asked about what info we get in the world they flip town and it's this.
Town/Town wagons would imply that the mafia were comfortable with the wagons, and the odds are that not all the mafia were voting on the main wagons.
The Mafia would have no reason to rock the boat. as it isn't one of their own staring death in the face.
It's common to see mafia stay off town/town wagons, to lessen accountability if/when towns get mislunched.

Oh so lucy is claiming Scrappy Doo? Not surprised at all tbh.

Meh, we can't tell whether lucy is townsiding or not until we have flipped wolves. But I prob have other players I want to sort first.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

Can you shed light on Omegas claim that you can town lock her

I completely missed what Omega claimed. What was it?

Are you just mafia again?

I told you how to act when you roll mafia after the mash

You should be pretty much able to tell the difference between my D1 in this game and in the mash.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:06 am My initial reads from day 1 are Chihiro lucy and pyxxy as lean mafia. CRichard Roxy and sig as lean town. And null for the others

lolMac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:35 pm My gosh this game is actually kind of easy to read. Let's stop talking about Lucy.

Rondo is obviously not town. Creature is naked town. Sig and HK are town. Neon is town. More to come.

Oh cool we're agreeing onto something.

I think CRichard was fairly towny so I'll give you that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:38 pm Effective immediately, @MacDougall is replacing @CRichard. Any votes cast for CRichard will be for Macdougall. Please do not discuss substitutions.

Oh that's new.

I want to see how Mac perceives Jack.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN CREATURE

Been too busy. I am trying to finish college stuff. I am afraid I might not be able to pay attention to this game. Especially when there are way too many players to resolve yet.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

Lucy claimed 3rd party, yet she is town siding way more than the town is doing collectively right now.
I can see myself voting Jack to resolve D1 CW.
Jack might have asked about what info we get in the world they flip town and it's this.
Town/Town wagons would imply that the mafia were comfortable with the wagons, and the odds are that not all the mafia were voting on the main wagons.
The Mafia would have no reason to rock the boat. as it isn't one of their own staring death in the face.
It's common to see mafia stay off town/town wagons, to lessen accountability if/when towns get mislunched.

Oh so lucy is claiming Scrappy Doo? Not surprised at all tbh.

Meh, we can't tell whether lucy is townsiding or not until we have flipped wolves. But I prob have other players I want to sort first.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:44 pm Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

Can you shed light on Omegas claim that you can town lock her

I completely missed what Omega claimed. What was it?

Also, I already wolfread Rondo's opening. Though, I do it every game. It's just: if Rondo doesn't improve he's prob a wolf here.

Damn I don't have a lot of motivation for this game.

Why are we wagoning lucy?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wagon other people, but I still want to lynch Jack the most here.

Oh man I got low motivation for today

but yeah I think Jack should be the lynch to resolve the wagons and also I found Jack pretty wolfy last EOD

I am also concerned about CRichard (or was it someone else I missed?) moving his vote off Jack near EOD, but I am not sure how damning that is because idk if CRichard would do that as wolf when that would heavily incriminate him

Alright this is my last post today now.

I am prob staying at Jack because I think Seanzie has been townier and I don't buy Jack's reads. He also feels appealy.

I think there's exactly one wolf in Jack/Seanzie and I'm at Jack > Seanzie.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:40 am So I'm capping here. Read CRichs last like 10 posts he's a wolf.

Byeeee try not to kill me I'm town and my power is kinda useful.

This is the post that made me townread Neon. I guess it has more to do with the last sentence because it felt genuine. I also kinda liked Neon calling out CRichard here. I dunno. This just doesn't feel wolf!Neon.

I wished to know why Seanzie is wolfreading Neon here because if he's town I really value his reads. However, I am pretty hesitant to lynch Neon here because I think she may be town and that'll make me sad.

I am also still afraid of Jack because the way he has been putting out reads felt more like saving himself. I am not seeing much analysis of the situation here. If we end up lynching Seanzie here and he flips town then Jack is pretty likely wolf.

Anyway, I have only one post left now so I hope I don't have to ask anyone more to elaborate. I will stay hopping my vote around in hopes to find the wagon I am most okay with that I can get lynched.

Alright I am getting a bit cold feet about lynching Seanzie. Perhaps because his reaction feels a bit different than GOC where he was wolf.

Please pay attention to the poll because we might still shuffle our votes around. I can do sig or Jack or maybe Dennis or Roxy if they are brought up again (or Scrappy ). I don't want Neon lynched.

Also Seanzie, I would like to know where do you feel the strongest about.

I would rather the players on the Neon wagon move to someone else, preferably Jack because I still think he could be a wolf.

I am voting Seanzie because I expect the wagon on him to prompt him to do something this EOD rather than just sit around.

I really hope he doesn't show up after poll closed complaining about being mislynched D1. Why people only show up after EOD?

I am waiting Jack finish catching up. I am interested to see if his read on Seanzie stands or if it'll change, as long as other reads.

I am here to move my vote until EOD around although I'll prob not state it in-thread due being postcapped or dangerously close to postcap.

I'd really rather we not lynch Neon today so I'll try to save her and my other townreads if that comes down it.

Other than Jack, I am fine with lynching Dennis, Roxy or Scrappy Doo. I can be convinced on a couple of others if someone seems reasonably confident about it and is not just yoloing.

I still would rather see what Jack has to bring here first.

I am opposed to lynching Neon today and I will prob vote/keep my vote on Jack if they remain the top two wagons.

If you want to save Jack for some reason you'll prob need to find a different wagon than Neon then.

I rather prefer to not lynch one of my townreads (falcon, Kate unless convinced, Neon, pyxxy), dunya (who seems alright and is likely to get killed soon if town) and null players whose lynch provide near no information (DaughterOfOmega, fingersplints, JDizz10).

I could vote without questioning: Jack, Dennis, Roxy and maybe Scrappy Doo if you all decide to lynch the sockpuppet anyway.

The others I would like some convincing.

Creature

falcon45ca
Neon
pyxxy

Kate (slightly less confident than the above)

dunya (most likely because I expect her to die soon if town)

DaughterOfOmega (almost true null)
fingersplints (true null)
JDizz10 (almost true null)

DrWilgy (conflicted on, but might just be alright)

Chihiro (has town points and wolf points)
CRichard (has town points and wolf points)
lucy (has town points and wolf points)

Seanzie (seemed underwhelming, but also his push on sig might be right)
sig (I thought he was town, but Seanzie left me wondering)

Roxy

Dennis

Jackofhearts2005

Scrappy Doo (only if you all decide you'd rather lynch the sockpuppet for some reason)

Alright I'll prob only have seven posts left after this and then we'll have to find a way to coordinate votes.

I prob wouldn't do dunya, falcon45ca, Kate, Neon or pyxxy today because I townread them to some degree or I think they're gonna get sorted soon (in the case of dunya).

DaughterOfOmega, fingersplints and JDizz10 are prob coin flips therefore they're pretty suboptimal.

idk what to feel about DrWilgy so he's prob a risky option for today.

Chihiro, Crichard and lucy I am really conflicted on because I've seen both town points and wolf points for them therefore I feel like I should wait at least one day.

Seanzie and sig I am also really conflicted on and I don't know how to feel about leaving them live for today or not. I am honestly scared of lynching one of them and being wrong.

Jack is prob my preferred lynch aorn unless he does something useful.

Dennis is doable too because I've seen some points against him and also I am pretty unimpressed by his posts.

I guess I could do Roxy too, but then I hope you have at least a good point against her that's not yolo.

If you all decide to lynch Scrappy Doo then I will prob join it, but I won't actively pursue it by myself.

lucy worries me too.

In Cartomancy, it felt like she was a lot more willing to draw attention and lead town, taking a serious participation. While in this game she seems to be mostly cat talking and trying to look cute. I ain't even sure she buys her Chihiro wolfread.

Though this also resembles old lucy that only posted once in a while and it was mostly non-serious one-liners.

Still if she doesn't improve she should prob be killed.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:26 am So I saw jack is the top wagon right now which I thought was a little weird but then I realized he hasn't really said anything. Which is a little worrying because when I played with him in cartomancy he was pretty active and pretty much town leader. I don't like sussing people for inactivity because there's a chance something happened IRL but I can't exactly ignore it either

Holy hedge, Batman!

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:29 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.

This post just bothers me. It comes off as TMI because nobody is even pushing me for death. If I had like 6 votes and you were actually worried wolves were trying to mislynch that’d make sense, but that never happened.

Idk it comes off as a white knight mafia

I think this post should be fine for DaughterOfOmega?

Oh lol, just realized DOOM now might think I am TMIing her. But meh, this looks similar to what I remember from DOOM although I have never seen her as wolf in this site so I might be underestimating her.

I can see CRichard being a wolf yeah. Perhaps because I am comparing him to that game he was quite loud and active in solving while here it felt like he was struggling to come up with takes as they seemed pretty awkward.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:40 am So I'm capping here. Read CRichs last like 10 posts he's a wolf.

Byeeee try not to kill me I'm town and my power is kinda useful.

Aw shit this is very believable. Neon can be town.

Is Kate town here? I thought she seemed fine because she is posting reads (but I haven't checked the quality of them) and in my one-time experience she is frozen as wolf.

Alright at least pyxxy remains town.

I think Seanzie is alright for now? Though I am mostly following what pyxxy is saying about Seanzie.

Ok man maybe I should do something

but honestly I have no idea where to go.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:24 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:16 am Neon/Sig probably not w/w voting on Scraggy. Again, it's too blatant for 2 mafia to vote on the same slot together. Yes I'm aware Scraggy is a 3p claim, yet why do 2 mafia vote on the same slot who isn't on their team together D1? Answer: They don't.

I don’t like these style of posts so early. I always read these as an attempt by mafia to set up multiple votes especially if you pair it with TMI.

For example both myself and Neon are town. One of us flips town the next natural step is to vote for the other boom two days wasted.

Granted he’s not pushing those yet so it isn’t a major red flag but like a tiny yellow one

Once again, why do you townread Neon? Though, if Neon flips town I am most likely to do Seanzie before you.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:35 pm Jack is underwhelming so far. I am kinda considering we should maybe just vote him and force him to do something especially if he's town who wants to remain unmislynchable.

I can’t recall the last time I played with Jack but I was also expecting a bit more in terms of content. Though that’s likely NAI

Perhaps it's too early D1 to tell but I expect by the end of D1 Jack should be doing something otherwise he's likely wolf.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:22 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm Yay for town working together even if it was in the shadows

I still find you sus tho Chihiro, sorry
[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

So what did this fine fellow do? Please explain.

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Hmmm...

I like this. [VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine.

Also turns out votes are changeable, so that's nice.

DrWilgy might be a wolf.

Why?

The vote doesn't strike as rapid fire town!DrWilgy. It feels like a weak DrWilgy looking "oh look someone voted another so ill vote there to look like i am doing something". It's mostly the "I like this" part that struck me out.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:31 pm Roxy's ISO feels awkward. Is Roxy really good at wolfing or do you all just get pocketed by their posts for lol reasons?

With Roxy i think it can both be really easy and really hard to read her. I very much base my reads off tone when it comes to her, and she’s really good as a wolf building cases I’d say. Granted, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen her wolf game, but I can tell you when she’s town I can pretty clearly tell by day 2/3.

Right now I’m not seeing that, but I don’t think she’d be a good day 1 wagon [/quote]

Honestly Roxy's tone looks good, but I don't like to rely on tone because wolves can find a way to fake it. I am expecting Roxy to find wolves and if she is struggling with it then she is most likely to be wolf. So far I am unsatisfied with her huge post that seems to be only a list of reasons to wolfread everybody.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:38 pm Seanzie also only talked about Scrappy Doo and looks different from his town games.

He does look different I’m getting the same vibes as his recent mafia games. Having said that I might also be OMGUS a bit which is common for me.

Though like I said before I think him trying to divert a wagon onto either Neon or me is a clear sign we’ve got a wolf among the other two.
[/quote]

Seanzie improved a little by providing a list of three wolfreads, but so far it doesn't really feel like he believes them. He has been only pushing you and barely brushed Neon and Dennis. I am inclined to think he's either right about you being a wolf or he is a wolf pushing bullshit.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:51 pm Also Sean’s case falls apart given that Scrappy claimed third party ergo it can’t be a slip in any direction?

Either way I really don’t like the diverting attempt and when I finally do ISO he’s gonna be my first and is right now in the lead for mafia.

My view on it is he got called out for not doing much which is within scum meta, so he cobbled together a quick case.

General rapid fire reads.

Lucy is likely not mafia and if my tone was rough sorry all in the spirit of the game.

Creature, Neon, and dunya all seem towny so far confidence of read in that order.


Chihiro I’m leery on half the time I find myself liking their posts and half the time I think they’re scummy I need to do a more in depth read of them

Dennis I’m side eyeing but I’ll trust Katie here. Granted they could both be mafia and hard clearing, but I’ll give that a D1 pass.

Yup, I hit myself a bullseye.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:51 pm Also Sean’s case falls apart given that Scrappy claimed third party ergo it can’t be a slip in any direction?

Either way I really don’t like the diverting attempt and when I finally do ISO he’s gonna be my first and is right now in the lead for mafia.

My view on it is he got called out for not doing much which is within scum meta, so he cobbled together a quick case.

General rapid fire reads.

Lucy is likely not mafia and if my tone was rough sorry all in the spirit of the game.

Creature, Neon, and dunya all seem towny so far confidence of read in that order.


Chihiro I’m leery on half the time I find myself liking their posts and half the time I think they’re scummy I need to do a more in depth read of them

Dennis I’m side eyeing but I’ll trust Katie here. Granted they could both be mafia and hard clearing, but I’ll give that a D1 pass.

Yup, I hit myself a bullseye.

No I hit myself a bullseye

I think there's one mafia in Seanzie/sig and I am leaning Seanzie.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:51 pmCreature, Neon, and dunya all seem towny so far confidence of read in that order.

Honestly surprised you are townreading me. What changed?

Anyway, why do you townread Neon? Kate pointed out her posts felt more empty this game.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:47 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:27 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:12 pm I don't get the townreads on Roxy for that giant wall. Why are you all townreading her for that?

I also don't get the wolfreads on Dennis. Where he is matching his wolf tones as compared to his town games?

If you want to wolf read me bc I think you are bad then go ahead. Why keep asking others why they don't think I am wolf? Do you need their permission? Get off the fence man and say how you read me and then stand by it.

This looks like town Roxy to me.

See I kinda disagree. Roxy is being alot more measured in her responses right now which is raising some red flags. Town roxy has a lot more of a like fuck around and find out paired with a I don’t care vibe (I mean this in a good way )

I’m seeing her laying more casework so far and giving detailed reads.

Why do you think it’s towny

Yeah I am still hesitant to townreading Roxy here. Some responses from Roxy struck as townie but they also felt different from Cartomancy (somewhat more relaxed, stern and firm rather than the free spirited Roxy there) and I am afraid I am seeing a tonally good wolf!Roxy in action here.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:23 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:30 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:35 pm Mechanically speaking Third Parties possible should always mean that their existance is confirmed, otherwise, this game is bastard. Telling us its possible they exist but then not having any to me is false information. Where I come from games don't include this unless 3rd party exist, they don't say they may or may not exist.

that isn't the cold hard rule in TS fyi.



i read the chihiro debacle with pyxxy with role pm lingo, which i specifically ban from happening from my games for the purpose of how gross it is and icky and stuff, and have a town lean on chihiro and pyxxy out of it for different reasons.

well yeah cause its gross, which why i specifically got pissed at pyxxy for reading into it.

Also I don't think I am that over the place with the scrappy slot, I think anyone thats hard focused on it over scum hunting is probablly mafia themself.

This sentence makes me wolfread you though.

Literally why? Again I don't understand this sites meta when comes to 3rd parties. Like if the sites meta is losing to 3rd parties thats not the fault of the 3rd party existing, thats the fault of town.

It worries me how you just blankly said "anyone pushing me for it is probably mafia" but didn't point out names. It feels like it has no other purpose than to be defensive without calling anyone out.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:30 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:35 pm Mechanically speaking Third Parties possible should always mean that their existance is confirmed, otherwise, this game is bastard. Telling us its possible they exist but then not having any to me is false information. Where I come from games don't include this unless 3rd party exist, they don't say they may or may not exist.

that isn't the cold hard rule in TS fyi.



i read the chihiro debacle with pyxxy with role pm lingo, which i specifically ban from happening from my games for the purpose of how gross it is and icky and stuff, and have a town lean on chihiro and pyxxy out of it for different reasons.

well yeah cause its gross, which why i specifically got pissed at pyxxy for reading into it.

Also I don't think I am that over the place with the scrappy slot, I think anyone thats hard focused on it over scum hunting is probablly mafia themself.

This sentence makes me wolfread you though.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:27 pm You guys just be glad you don’t know scrappy doo. I would happily erase him from my memory lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:23 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:10 pm woof woof

Oh god scrappy doo is the worst. Perhaps one of the most justifiably hated characters of all time

Splints is my ride or die this game idc how she flips, whay she does, who she kills.

She could claim mafia while being red checked and saying she was gonna lead a misvote on me and my hatred for scrappy will still burn brighter than all those things.


On a serious note, I 100% bet Scrabby is a third party role I’m thinking in like with the character from Rico’s Courage game awhile back. Basically a player posts as both themselves and scrabby.

Or if we wanna include movie verse then scrappy is a mafia member since in the first movie he was the main villain

The slip is that sig assumed villain = mafia member when in reality villain = town. Therefore, sig supposedly slipped being a main character.

Though, that doesn't make sense because if sig randed mafia he would know main characters = mafia.

Honestly it should only be a real wolfslip is if someone either slipped information town can't have or contradicted themselves while claiming. Accidentally getting an info wrong counts as a derp and it's most often than not NAI.

I'mma gonna be honest: I don't have a good read on sig. All I know is that I see him being often mislynched or miskilled by town for the dumbest shit, like in Cartomancy mafia, and that's why I am pretty skeptical about that slip thing. I thought he was towny for the way he started D1, but idk how he plays as wolf and I might be underestimating his wolfgame.

I was telling y'all Roxy's post feels like just a list of reasons to wolfread everyone. It doesn't put town any closer to their wincon.

New reads:

Chihiro - idk, needs more interaction
CRichard - wolf, too underwhelming and awkward
DaughterOfOmega - null, posted nothing game relevant
Dennis - null, feels like an easy push and needs a good case
DrWilgy - leaning town, but I disapprove the intentional slank thing
dunya - leaning town, mostly because she's doing stuff
falcon45ca - town, I think his posts are pretty decent
fingersplints - null, done nothing game relevant
Jackofhearts2005 - leaning wolf, town!Jack would care more about this game
JDizz10 - very slightly leaning town, mostly for their vote
Kate - leaning town, mostly because of later posts
lucy - leaning town, but growing thin and needs to post more
Neon - leaning wolf, but mostly because others are sensing it
pyxxy - town, because they seem genuine
Roxy - leaning town, though the bar is very low
Seanzie - idk, depends on how well his reads are
sig - leaning town, feels like an easy push and don't buy the slip thing

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:41 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

On a quick review, I do agree on Neon. I'm a big vibe player and she seems quite different. Her posts are shorter and less enthusiastic (I guess that's a good way to describe it). Her posts are also a tad more cogent but with less actual substance.

So far only Kate provided me a reason to wolfread someone so I'll go there.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

I may vote Dennis but not before someone provides me a good explanation as to why he's wolf, preferably pointing out he doesn't do that as town.

how about you provide us with a reason to wolf read someone?

I just provided Seanzie. I remember him being pretty quick to read every post one by one from the get go and I am missing it from him here. Honestly now it relies about how I feel about his sig/Neon/Dennis pushes. So far I didn't like the sig push.

Then there's CRichard. I have seen CRichard be a much more active solver than this. Even his Seanzie push felt "meh ill just push someone" rather than actually believing it. I don't think Seanzie and CRichard are together though.

The bar is low

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

On a quick review, I do agree on Neon. I'm a big vibe player and she seems quite different. Her posts are shorter and less enthusiastic (I guess that's a good way to describe it). Her posts are also a tad more cogent but with less actual substance.

So far only Kate provided me a reason to wolfread someone so I'll go there.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

I may vote Dennis but not before someone provides me a good explanation as to why he's wolf, preferably pointing out he doesn't do that as town.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:12 pm I don't get the townreads on Roxy for that giant wall. Why are you all townreading her for that?

I also don't get the wolfreads on Dennis. Where he is matching his wolf tones as compared to his town games?

If you want to wolf read me bc I think you are bad then go ahead. Why keep asking others why they don't think I am wolf? Do you need their permission? Get off the fence man and say how you read me and then stand by it.

Honestly I don't really wolfread you but I am still skeptical about the players townreading you for it and want to know why.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:16 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:11 pm I just want to take a moment to define how much of a pleasure it is to play Mafia with all of you.

Y'all the rest GOATS.

I would have more pleasure if y'all didn't make this game hard by not playing.

Oh, I'm definitely playing. Just trying something new.

A modified version of Wilgy I'd call this.

Critical Slank Wilgy 12%.

I've tried Ultra Flow Wilgy v.2.31 afew times now and I've not noticed positive results.

This may be more akin to GoC Wilgy if not the Wilgy you see who subs into games.

If you're NANOOK and you can push good reads, then that's alright. The issue is that slanking is a pretty easy thing for wolves to do and if everybody did the same then the game would be extremely difficult to play.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Convince me on each of them.

Why is sig a wolf? Do you have something that's not the slip thing that doesn't even make sense?

Why is Neon a wolf? Do you have a solid read here like a Hot Fuzz reference?

Why is Dennis a wolf? Do you have some comparison with his town games and wolf games?

Weren't you on the bad team with Dennis in cartomancy?

Yes, but I don't have a good read on Dennis aorn. He strikes me as an easy push like in GOC so I am pretty skeptical about the unexplained pushes on him.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Convince me on each of them.

Why is sig a wolf? Do you have something that's not the slip thing that doesn't even make sense?

Why is Neon a wolf? Do you have a solid read here like a Hot Fuzz reference?

Why is Dennis a wolf? Do you have some comparison with his town games and wolf games?

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:16 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:37 pm Kate is wolfy though because she only talked about Scrappy Doo.

Hi. When I was herethats all people were talking about. I'm gonna do a full read though. Who are your top 3 suspects GTH?

Yeah but talking about Scrappy Doo is the easiest busywork wolves can do and if that's the only thing you've done so far then I have good reasons to suspect you.

Also I know you can do better as town because you did fairly well in GOC.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:12 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:09 pm I'm more confident on my Neon read btw, but Sig is probably just mafia.

What makes you confident on your Neon read? What is it?

My confidence is what makes me confident. Neon is mafia.

Alright if you show you are town then I might follow you here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:11 pm I just want to take a moment to define how much of a pleasure it is to play Mafia with all of you.

Y'all the rest GOATS.

I would have more pleasure if y'all didn't make this game hard by not playing.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:59 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:53 amCreature - I get the feeling like you are trying harding a lil too much and it gives me a bad feeling like I got in Carto. Your posts read like you are on auto pilot.

What you pointed here makes me town.

I am way too stiffy as wolf. I can't go on auto pilot as wolf. I just post what I deem enough to be townread.

If I am overdoing things and posting reads endlessly like on an auto pilot then I am pretty much town who has nothing to hide.

I am pretty bad at hiding things as wolf and faking town fluidity at the same time.

What the fuck even is that read?

you telling me that it makes you town does not in fact make you town. I do not sort people on meta alone that would be like playing only half ass. I like to play with my whole ass. Right now I get baddie vibes from your posts I cannot help how I feel. It is only D 1 so plenty of time to prove your towniness to everyone.

Using meta to get an idea of how players play as town and as wolves is important though. It prevents you from making garbage reads like this.

I don't get the townreads on Roxy for that giant wall. Why are you all townreading her for that?

I also don't get the wolfreads on Dennis. Where he is matching his wolf tones as compared to his town games?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:10 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:09 pm Yeah there's no way I am buying sig slipped here.

If that's the only thing Seanzie found so far then I still think he's a wolf.

You vastly underestimate my ability to do nothing as town.

You usually take the initiative to do things when you enter the thread. I am not convinced by your sig push.