The Syndicate

In a bit, on vacation

Something interesting is afoot

And now, I shall try

Actually

let me think about this

I've spent some time thinking

And, Im pretty confident in Sloonei

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

or rather, they tried to kill someone and failed. Not green arrow

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 11:57 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 11:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 11:08 am So we’re all in agreement. Ollie will take out Sabie and we will lynch Nutella tomorrow and maybe Sloonei after that pending flips.

tbh if I'm correct about sloon being deathstroke we should perhaps let the mafia do our dirty work and not have to go through the annoyance of lynching him twicw

Your argument for Sloonei being Deathstroke is that maybe Deathstroke survives a kill that never happened because Green Arrow doesn’t have a kill on night 1.

????

The write up clearly stated the green faction tried to kill him

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 11:08 am So we’re all in agreement. Ollie will take out Sabie and we will lynch Nutella tomorrow and maybe Sloonei after that pending flips.

tbh if I'm correct about sloon being deathstroke we should perhaps let the mafia do our dirty work and not have to go through the annoyance of lynching him twicw

Well, perhaps the roleblocker had clued in who they targeted last night. Between that and Deathstroke blocking a kill the latter still seems more likely but that info is still valuable

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:35 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:21 am

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:07 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 8:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 2:19 am The notion that I’m Deathstroke because there was a failed kill Night 1 is shit from a different horse. First of all, why do we even assume that that was the method of kill prevention? There’s, like, other things that can stop kills you know?

Well, take a look at the role list and you'll see there's no other blocking powers available for a non-green on N1, except for a roleblock I overlooked:

"Laurel fights crime as a lawyer by day and as the Black Canary by night. She can use her sonic blast to block another’s power each night"

But I'm not sure what the convention is this game for roleblocks

@DFaraday Are faction kills assigned and can a roleblock be used to stop them?

Faction kills may be sent in from any living member of the team. Roleblocks do stop said kills.

Okay. Deathstroke ate the kill then.

Ultra DESTROYS Sloonei with LOGIC and FACTS

You seem to be reacting as though the Host just told you that roleblocks don't stop kills.

...

I need coffee

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:07 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 8:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 2:19 am The notion that I’m Deathstroke because there was a failed kill Night 1 is shit from a different horse. First of all, why do we even assume that that was the method of kill prevention? There’s, like, other things that can stop kills you know?

Well, take a look at the role list and you'll see there's no other blocking powers available for a non-green on N1, except for a roleblock I overlooked:

"Laurel fights crime as a lawyer by day and as the Black Canary by night. She can use her sonic blast to block another’s power each night"

But I'm not sure what the convention is this game for roleblocks

@DFaraday Are faction kills assigned and can a roleblock be used to stop them?

Faction kills may be sent in from any living member of the team. Roleblocks do stop said kills.

Okay. Deathstroke ate the kill then.

Ultra DESTROYS [mention]Sloonei[/mention] with LOGIC and FACTS

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 2:19 am The notion that I’m Deathstroke because there was a failed kill Night 1 is shit from a different horse. First of all, why do we even assume that that was the method of kill prevention? There’s, like, other things that can stop kills you know?

Well, take a look at the role list and you'll see there's no other blocking powers available for a non-green on N1, except for a roleblock I overlooked:

"Laurel fights crime as a lawyer by day and as the Black Canary by night. She can use her sonic blast to block another’s power each night"

But I'm not sure what the convention is this game for roleblocks

[mention]DFaraday[/mention] Are faction kills assigned and can a roleblock be used to stop them?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 6:29 pm Okay just caught up and read what happened today. To respond to the questions people asked about my comments on spirityo. There was a game called world asunder. In that game spirityo came outta nowhere accusing me and we went back and forth arguing about the fact that he was wrong and it was very frustrating. I was proven right by the end of it. It was dumb.
I don't think I ever said I was town reading spirityo I thought hes been kinda sketchy this game so far with the way he just kinda says a bunch of random stuff doesn't care about reading then is like hey let's vote for sabie.
I'm not sure why jack is following spirityos vote other than he asked him to. Ultra also was quick to join in on that but then switched.

I don't like this post because it's pretty clear you spewed spirityo as making a mistake by saying this scenario is the same as last game

BUT instead of admitting this and saying he's likely town you waffle and say he's "sketchy"

As for my switch on you, I had the feeling it wasn't going to have any momentum, and that by placing matahari as a dominant wagon there could be potentially interesting info weather they were T/W. Then I got distracted and missed EoD

Since the previous DP was leading with Matahara for the majority of it - I would suggest looking for players who were already trying to set up the next lynches and not interested in the front running options at all

I'll do so myself but I got stuff to do atm

is there any way to look at vote history on this forum or are you fucked if you weren't paying attention

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 12:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 12:17 am Cooler, DDL, Jack, MafiaMenace, Matahari, nutella, speedchuck and Sprityo.

Does anybody want to go into bat for any of DDL, Jack, MafiaMenace, nutella or Spirityo with any significant information that would lead me to believe they are town?

Not I.

Mafiamence seems like he peaced the fuck out a while back

On Sloonei - I floated the earlier the idea that he's third party because it's apparent that Deathstroke blocked a shot N1, and he's probably the most likely candidate for a NK by his own admittance.

That alone doesn't suffice to put him on the chopping block though, he's worth a less than comprehensive but still informational ISO

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 12:08 am

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:56 am I don’t understand why people say the cult is anti town. I pm’d the host to find out how the cult works, and I recommend everyone else do that too, if you are in doubt. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town at all. I hope Felicity goes after a killer.
Maybe someone can explain what is meant by Anti town, when the cult can win with the town.

Perhaps we can honor this wish.

Well, on the subject of Felicity

My analysis from earlier leads me to believe that Greens Shot Deathstroke, as there were no other apparent protection roles in play

And it would perhaps be in their best interest to, if not immediately, then eventually shoot him again. They might choose to keep him in play for a bit to lower player numbers but I think we can reasonably rely on that to happen eventually. Plus, SK has a lynch proof still, so even if she peeked that role and managed to push a lynch...

I think the best use would be against someone in the green faction. Ra's Al Ghul presents the biggest threat this game with complete invulnerability as long as he has surviving team mates. This is actually quite broken for this set up, especially when you consider they have potential to convert Sara, and if they do so, we now have to lynch someone who may be recognized as townie before we can even get rid of them.

Felicity may want to target the other guy in the green faction and just bank that we can get Ghul before they manage to convert

By the way can someone inform me what BTSC is

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:59 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:59 pm Who manipulated us guys

My answer wouldn't be very popular.

The kind of answers I like

Anyway Mata flipping town has peaked slightly more interest in this game

Who manipulated us guys

Eh, I'll blatantly sheep

see if anything interesting follows this action

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:21 am Actually, how does an Ultra lynch sound to you guys.

Stop testing the waters and just go for me you pussy

(Uh I'm just joking ofc in case that counts as an info dump or something)

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:03 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 8:52 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 8:13 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:44 am @Dragomir what’s your read on ultra??

He's not in my scum reads, nor my town reads either so he's neutral.

Wait a minute.

The town Ultra I am familiar with is absolutely not this passive and he always had a presence in the thread. He was a town leader that interacted with a lot of the players and is productive. There's a severe lack in all that in this game.

But I was townie D1, right?

Obv I got converted

Wait what? You're admitting to being a cultist now?

That's right I don't give af about winning for town no mo'

later virgins

Sorry Drago I'm just kinda bored/uninspired this game.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 8:13 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:44 am @Dragomir what’s your read on ultra??

He's not in my scum reads, nor my town reads either so he's neutral.

Wait a minute.

The town Ultra I am familiar with is absolutely not this passive and he always had a presence in the thread. He was a town leader that interacted with a lot of the players and is productive. There's a severe lack in all that in this game.

But I was townie D1, right?

Obv I got converted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:00 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

And why am I bad again

Hard Mode: Without accounting for end of D1, since you had me marked as scummy much before that.

Lots of reasons.

Thanks for surrendering.

Why surrender? I'm winning this bitch.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:00 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

And why am I bad again

Hard Mode: Without accounting for end of D1, since you had me marked as scummy much before that.

Lots of reasons.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 8:56 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

Appeal to previous performances/claims to force a repeat narrative and also call the credibility of the accuser into question is a fairly scummy defense.

Also like, I feel like if this were actually genuine, her response would be more along the lines of "why are you doing this again spirityo?" rather than expositioning to the thread

The thing people dont ever get about me is that I'm always genuine. This is actually what happened in world asunder and it was super annoying. I had to keep fighting and defending myself over and over about reasoning that turned out to be complete bs. And can you say that I'm wrong about spirityos prior contributions? I thought he was sketchy even before this whole thing. He basically said he didnt read anything just wanted to make a 3 way tie and cause chaos and that's it. Didnt say who he was voting for or why or anything really.

That's a more genuine response. How exactly are you reading spirityo though? Because your last post gave me the impression you were town reading him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

And why am I bad again

Hard Mode: Without accounting for end of D1, since you had me marked as scummy much before that.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:50 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 4:57 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 4:31 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 4:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:59 am Dammit... Sprityo is bad again.

A shame too... here I was thinking "I just wish I could press my shirtless body up to them." Looks like that can't happen.

Damnit now I won’t get a custom banner that says “DrWilgy pressed his shirtless body against me.”

Also you’re wrong, but maybe you’re also wrong

And wrong of course

sprityo help me. I’m lost. I an suddenly incapable of understanding anything in this game unless you explain it to me in your own words. Tell me who the bad guys and good guys are, I’m begging you.

sabie is bad, because i said so

Does not compute. Reason insufficient.

Redpill me on Matahari

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

Appeal to previous performances/claims to force a repeat narrative and also call the credibility of the accuser into question is a fairly scummy defense.

Also like, I feel like if this were actually genuine, her response would be more along the lines of "why are you doing this again spirityo?" rather than expositioning to the thread

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:13 am Let's just form two solid wagons on Nutella and Mata that way the leading wagons are w/w.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Ultra wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:04 pm Interesting that nobody was killed by the league.

There are few protective roles in this game, one of which belongs to the league itself.

So we can discern they either shot Thea Queen or Deathstroke. Had they hit The Queen the shot should rebound though.

But it leads to a potentially interesting conclusion - someone who was a high priority target is actually the SK

Just want to reiterate here and say if it was The Queen who blacked and reversed a shot - the write up would probably indicate that information with a failed kill on their would be killer

So unless I'm missing some obvious detail it seems to me that this conclusion is likely

Thoughts?

Man now I gotta crack the case open on someone, couldn't even resolve my #1 target

thanks a lot vig

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:05 pm Iris West Blog Post - 5/21/19

"Lots of posts so far, that Day 0 was livelier than most. Obviously, the extended length of it is a factor, I think players were eager to get back to Mafia'ing after a long lull on The Syndicate. Not that lots of posting is a problem, it is good to have more content out there. Good, but more time-consuming to take in.

Congrats to the Cooler voters that stuck with it. Optics are bad on Ultra based on this one, and maybe a couple of others as well. Needless to say, this was a great first lynch, and it should get the ball rolling!"

Fuck yo optics

fight me

Interesting that nobody was killed by the league.

There are few protective roles in this game, one of which belongs to the league itself.

So we can discern they either shot Thea Queen or Deathstroke. Had they hit The Queen the shot should rebound though.

But it leads to a potentially interesting conclusion - someone who was a high priority target is actually the SK

well shit who am I going to tunnel now

isn't day supposed to start now

ok well at least we get that piece of info, but shiet

[mention]DFaraday[/mention]

If one of the mafia factions is wiped out does the other faction still kill every other day or do they upgrade to a faction kill every night

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:41 am Also nks don't flip so if I die at night you don't get to find out that you're wrong about me

aw shit

why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:48 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:37 pm anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

we?

Yeah me and my green pal

anyway at least we got a D1 scum lynch, and not one of the two unlynchables either

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:20 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 pm I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

Does flying under the radar seem like something that I am want to do based on the one game you played with me in which you had the benefit of seeing Mafia me?

Still operating under the SK assumption atm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:20 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 pm I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

I've done this before. It's pretty obvious really.

People in hindsight would remember you pushing the Cooler wagon. Moving your vote off Cooler when you did could have quite easily resulted in a save for Cooler, particularly given I had said it was a mislynch and suspected nutella. So the only scenario in which a teammate of Cooler version of Ultra actually looks bad from this is based on MacDougall randomly voting Cooler which nobody could account for.

This is all wifom Ultra. Mafia teammates do strange things around Mafia teammates and they are non teammate indicative by design. It's not a good defence.

The being mad at me stuff is a good look for you though.

No, what you said is all wifom.

There is a vast disparity in assumptions and likelihood between me being civ and whatever your scenario is.

Now speaking of theories of motive - I suspect you're intentionally blowing your own credibility to help you fly under the radar.

If this isn't the case, at least I can have a hardy chuckle over the grave of your credibility

Not making another post until I'm through my 2nd space kitty

I just...

Why on earth would I push a wagon that I was clearly a compromise, and then do a complete 180, if he was my team mate?

Why wouldn't I just, like, continue to push speedchuck, or whoever else.

Why wouldn't I hard bus for the cred for an obviously useless team mate

I was, and continue to be, irritated by you. You're rather effective at doing this. And I was watching the wagons closely nonetheless. I was going to pull back to cooler's wagon last second but my clock on my computer is actually off by about 2 mins which I forgot.

SSSSSSIIIIP

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:07 pm

Notice how Ultra got his vote off of Cooler and onto a useless Mac wagon when Cooler was looking baked.

That's a teammate.

Oh, shut it.