The Syndicate

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:11 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:18 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:17 pm I agree with Jack. Imo, Wilgy’s flip would tell more about how valid the PoE is than Nanook’s flip. Nanook feels like the shrug elim that tells us nothing here.
Wilgy is an okay flip but I feel like he's had more micro townie moments than what I've seen from Nanook, can you try sell me a little on that? I'll try find what I'm on about as well
To me I’ve seen more micro townie moments with Nanook. I think his approach to evaluating me d3 is good for him and him calling the red check incredibly based and just going with it was one of the better reactions imo. In a vacuum not taking into account my reads on anyone else I’d lean him town.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:23 pm I’ll be gone for EoD. If Wilgy flips wolf, look at Roxy or Epi first. Nanook would be tinfoil level and not a first suspect. If Wilgy flips town, I think the game is harder than I expected and I’d look at Jack more closely. If Wilgy flips town I think our PoE is flawed.

If Nanook flips wolf I was probably wrong on Wilgy. If Nanook flips town I’d kill Wilgy unless there’s significant new evidence.

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

If I don’t survive the night, good luck town.

SVS already made the case that this kill could be made by wJack. Whatever.

This kill could be just “Thunal a better leader than townies in Abby/SVS/whatever.” Like maybe Thunal does here always regardless of read accuracy.

But if it was read motivated…

I don’t think Thunal’s defense or legacy actually does a whole lot to Abi/SVS. I’m not sure it does that much for Pyxxy or Abby either.

The biggest takeaway is like “wNanook probably doesn’t want Thunal dead.”

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:41 pm Should I vote Dizzy and make it a 5-way tie?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:42 pm Something about how Jack is approaching this game makes me think they're town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:44 pm actually... [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:58 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:56 pm I'd flashwagon Long con.
would you flashwagon nanook?
Meh

Other late posts on still living players. Doesn’t mean a lot.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:56 pm I'd flashwagon Long con.

Seanzie death might have been as simple as this.

And that’s D4. In summary

Epi, SVS - Still look townie

Everyone else - No real change just in today.

Some specific wolf combos that are more likely than others that I’ll worry about later.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:31 am
Silly not proofreading SVS said: Her legacy post was "If Wilgy flips time, it's time to reassess the POE, and to reassess Jack". I would have shot her, too, if I were you.
That should be, "If Wilgy flips town". Not even sure how I typed that as 'time'

Autocorrect is awful. My phone autocorrects “her” to “hee” and thinks nevermind is a proper noun.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:12 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:04 am D1:
LinearPoint - 4
Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty - 2
Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Thunal33 - 1
Voters: Roxy

Delta - 1
Voters: Scotty

pyxxy - 2
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Dyslexicon - 1
Voters: Epignosis

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D2:
S~V~S - 2
Voters: Roxy, Long Con

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: Jackofhearts2005

leetic - 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Long Con - 4
Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, Delta, leetic

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Jackofhearts2005 - 2
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, DrWilgy

Unvote - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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D3:
DrWilgy - 4
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Jackofhearts2005, ☆Princess Abigail☆

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 2
Voters: Delta, pyxxy

Roxy - 1
Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005 - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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yay colors
Oh fuck it is just Delta +1 cool!

Another Abby read I don’t understand and want to.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:11 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:31 am @☆Princess Abigail☆ roxy wasn't kidding tagging you is a pain

setting aside our.....differences

why is roxy a wolf?
Reasons I am not willing to expand upon so let's say vibes

Super frustrating. I can’t even reevaluate you because you just say stuff with no basis.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:22 am L indeed

I can't give enough of a shit about mafia anymore to scream and shout at people to get off obv towns like Wilgy anymore be cause it upsets me when they don't listen.

Whereas if I give up... well I hate myself cause I was right but at least I'm not toxic

Tbf, you’re not explaining your reads so like you don’t have to scream and shout. Just explain your reads.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:14 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:14 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:09 pm The issue I have with Roxy trying to open up the POE is not just that she's trying to open up the POE in and of itself. I understand that town Roxy only has to disagree with one of Wilgy or Nanook being scum to think the POE is wrong.

It's also the way she's going about it.

And I admit this is totally unfair pushing someone in the hospital on medication but here we go.

viewtopic.php?p=1078615#p1078615

This feels limp. Telling me that I know I'm scum is a null statement. Roxy's mirroring someone else's words on Delta flip flopping. It doesn't feel like real hunting to me. It feels like desperate clawing.

viewtopic.php?p=1078605#p1078605

This also feels limp. "I should have voted you" "You haven't proven to me you are town" etc.

It doesn't feel like t!Roxying thinking she's got a wolf in her sights. It feels like desperately trying to open the POE to include townies because wolves are in a box.
this feels like you are trying to *close* the POE bc wolves are probs not in it
And since you are so willing to vote Nook then just put blinders on and vote for me then wigly.
It feels like you are going for: Game over Baddies win - you are bad Jack.

This does not feel like Jack has a wolf in his sights it feels like a bJack who is becoming part of the POE and does not want any part of it.
I think this is very much a town Roxy post. Not just because I agree with her, but the tone of it.

She was right before Wilgy died, and she's especially right after Wilgy died. The POE that was being used was incorrect, and needed to be reconsidered.

And as Thunal said before she was NK, if Wilgy flips town, we need to reconsider the POE, and Jack. I am glad she made that legacy post.

Gotta go do dog stuff before the rain starts (here in NY it has rained every Saturday for 4, maybe 5? weeks. Ugh).
ah okay this is what you're getting at

Maybe nevermind.

Like is that just trying to pocket me and treading water?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:10 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:29 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:23 pm I’ll be gone for EoD. If Wilgy flips wolf, look at Roxy or Epi first. Nanook would be tinfoil level and not a first suspect. If Wilgy flips town, I think the game is harder than I expected and I’d look at Jack more closely. If Wilgy flips town I think our PoE is flawed.

If Nanook flips wolf I was probably wrong on Wilgy. If Nanook flips town I’d kill Wilgy unless there’s significant new evidence.

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

If I don’t survive the night, good luck town.

This is why Thunal was killed ^^^^
catching up
Spoiler: show
before I pass out (wedding was a blast) and then I'm flying tomorrow so no idea if I'll have wifi
so if you expand on this later but you're basically saying that Thunal was a fearkill? that scum Jack was so afraid of getting cased?

I hate this post. Feels yucky even if it’s like “I disagree with the idea that Jack is a wolf.”

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:13 pm Like the idea of having to reevaluate Epi and consider he could be mafia defending his partner with yucky reasoning is actually painful. I don't want it.
You're trapped.

The only avenue this thought even has is this: "Epignosis at the last minute destroyed his team's role blocker Long Con while also attacking his OTHER partner Roxy and only started "defending" (your word) Roxy after S~V~S (not his teammate) talked him out of it.

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

I haven’t looked at Epi’s EOD2 but if he was unnecessarily instrumental to LC’s yeet, it really doesn’t make a lot of sense in a wEpi/wRoxy world.

I might be being too generous, here, but I’m just reevaluating my Epi townread into another Epi townread.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:44 pm If I believe S~V~S is a civilian, and by extension disregard my own perspective of Roxy in favor of hers, then I find a much clearer path to proceed.

This is still potentially agenday but only if we’re looking at exactly wEpi and wRoxy. I don’t understand this perspective from townies but it does exist.

I don’t think wEpi just lets tRoxy off like that. Not only is that taking the easiest misyeet off the table, wolf Epi’s partner is on the table if they’re in Jack/Delta/Nook/Pyxxy. It’s only not a double bad move if you’re looking at exactly a wEpi/wSVS or wEpi/wAbi team and Epi is talking to those slots in a way that really doesn’t look partnered.

So like clearing the slate, Epi looks like he can only be wolves with Roxy or just town.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:55 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:11 pm Anyways it's still pyxxy and Roxy

Walk me through or link me to the Pyxxy case. I have my Pyxxy towncase and you vs Pyxxy looked like town vs town but Pyxxy also is like in my two least certain townreads so I'll hear it.

And I think Roxy is wolves here more often than Nanook.
The case is pyxxy is a wolf

But seriously, Abby, you could be more helpful. It would be really nice.

Like wolves single vote off wagon on their partner during t/t wagons all the time.

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:23 pm Someone better than wagon stuff than me help me out, does w!Jack stack with w!LC D1 with two town wagons happening as is? It blatantly kinda ties the two & there's no real need for it when theres 2 townies being wagoned to begin with

Similarly, does w!LC vote w!Pyxxy when theres 2 town dying anyway? I dont think he was really townreading the other two so it's not like he couldn't have joined those? Would that have been a distancing thing? If so, it seemed a little unnecessary if it's only me really looking into that.

I'm not great with wagon stuff? But I cant really get past that & it's why I had the idea of pyxxy/Jack/LC having exactly 1 wolf to begin with.

I think pyxxy & Jack are both town but I need a second voice on this part specifically

I think one bit of this is being overanalyzed.

Yeah, wLC and wJack don’t stack off wagon on wPyxxy and we probably don’t even do it on tPyxxy.

But there’s not really anything saying wLC doesn’t ever vote offwagon on wPyxxy and then tJack happens to join.

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:28 pm @S~V~S

If Jack is mafia, who's partnered with him other than me?

Because if it's just me that can be partnered with him, that world is always wrong because I'm town

I can get being worried about the current POE but I'm struggling on seeing w!Jack here, especially if his prospective partner in that world is me because that doesn't work

This is another post from Delta that makes sense in a Delta/Jack t/t world, a w/t world and a w/w world and it’s just frustratingly easy to see it however your world view is.

Punt, not ping

This isn’t a real suggestion but I kinda wanna ping Nanook into the sun and then say if Roxy is a wolf, she just deserves a win and ignore her slot regardless.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:08 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:46 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:15 pm Imma vote for Jack. I think he was partnered with LC.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine
Ffs do something besides repeat this. Please.
What do you think has happened that would change my mind? Wilgy flipping town? Thunal getting NKed? Those things kinda deepened my resolve.

People don't just drop their suspects for no reason.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:49 pm We are almost at the point where we can confirm Roxy/Wilgy as the correct solve because they aren’t self preserving (this is a joke)
Almost, but not quite, eh?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:02 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:59 pm So we want to flip someone to see how valid the POE is rather than because we think they’re a wolf?

My vote is good where it is. I think he’s bad regardless of anyone else’s POE.
Is there anyone in particular you think would be my partner or would never ever be my partner?
Overall, I had felt pretty good about Delta, but their pile onto me for no discernable reason whatsoever puts them in the possible "Jack/LC partner" camp. Especially when they didn't really push back against Thunal at all when she started posting my townier moments, just dropped their SVS vote like a hot potato. A vote they didn't really seem to believe in when they made it. You kinda hot potatoed it too, actually, now that I think about it.

I can't read Nook whatsoever, he's just a happy warm presence, and can't recall much they have said this game without looking it up. So he could potentially be bad, but mostly based on "lack of good" more so than "active bad".

Abigail is usually somewhat snarky with me, and her being so nice to me freaks me out a bit, since I know I am subject to pocketing a bit. But I still don't see her gambit coming from a wolfy place; shaking up the thread from a focus on one persons thoughts was totally pro town, and people can be nice without an agenda. So I do think she's town, but wanted to point out that caveat.

And I have reason to think Roxy, Epi and pyxxy are town.

Another frustrating post from SVS.

I can understand what Delta is saying and why Delta is voting for an SVS he doesn’t scumread.

But if you don’t have the knowledge that I’m town? If you don’t mindmeld with Delta in that moment? I can understand thinking this is pretty sus.

Jack: I was at a POE of Roxy/Nanook and I think that is wrong. I’m going to open the POE back to Roxy/Nanook/Delta/Aby/Pyxxy/SVS/Epi.

Also Jack: Pyxxy shouldn’t be in this POE and I think everything SVS and Epi say is townie.

Game is hard.

It’s long so I’m not quoting it but this is in relation to SVS’s post here.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 1#p1078897

I still don’t see how a wolf Roxy couldn’t have made that SVS vote. Maybe it’s cause my wolf game tries to imitate my town game that I feel this stuff is unconvincing.

That said, the “I feel like Roxy has been honest about everything” is at least a reason for the read and it’s generally a good look for SVS.

Though for Pyxxy, it’s cause Roxy is a townread. For me, it’s cause Nanook and Roxy don’t play this way if that’s the team. Not exactly a mindmeld.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:38 am
Spoiler: show
it feels very catch-22

thunal legacied by saying if wilgy flips town, the game is harder + look at jack

she did see wilgy/nook as maybe a difference check?

sorry I wanted to wait for Epi to respond but also I wanted to get thoughts out so spoiler if my compromise

Thunal death feels like a desire to expand the poe because of her townlocks only to be reconsidered in FX/xilo, and that felt very firm

but also, we're in a harder game now, so expanding the poe almost seems natural, unless we really did just pick the townie amongst the scum yesterday. that would be frustrating and funny

but I dont and didnt think roxy was scum. I was down for nook ofc. not sure about jack either. I think I was counting on wilgy scum more than I realized, like yeah I'm in a rut after my Abigail tinfoil

this is unfortunate

“Counting on Wilgy scum more than I realized” is mindmeldy.

Otoh, this is a consistent angle with a Pyxxy/Roxy wolf team, if I believed that. Feels like today is gonna be a lot of throwing our stuff I don’t really believe because I believe what I believe is wrong and hopefully something clicks.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:21 am also heads up I need slank cover for tomorrow, attending a wedding pretty much all day

Fuck love. Mafia is what’s important.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:04 am Yeah but epi is using flawed logic.
I play old school. There's no unvote option EVER in my game style.
If you think I would use a hospitalization to use a friend I guess you must think I'm a very shitty person and a hoffiffic friend to have.
If you believe this just vote me now bc I'm not going to make this point again.

If you’re a wolf here, I don’t think you’re a shitty friend. Friends are allowed to bluff in poker and lie in mafia. This is a game about deception and rooting it out.

I’ll vote when I’m sure I’ve got a wolf. You’re my strongest scumread but if I was sure you were a wolf, I’d just be quoting the posts that make me think you’re a wolf and trying to convince ppl, not rereading days.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:56 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:45 am If I believe Thunal was killed for a reason, that Thunal would do a better job directing town than Abi (and to a lesser degree, SVS and Delta), then I believe in that legacy. I specifically don’t look at Pyxxy. If it were Pyxxy/Roxy, I think Abby dies over Thunal. That’s my starting point.
I disagree with locking onto thunal reads. You believe her legacy then why not vote yourself.

Everyone's reads are valid

Make your own poe and we can find common ground as a town And go from there.

I looked into myself per Thunal’s legacy and found myself to be town. But sure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:33 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:42 am
Roxy was in the hospital and she voted me becasue she knew I could deal with that. I 100000% think she would not do that if she were bad (I originally wrote "do that bad", I have to get that wording out of my head), use our irl friendship as a chip or ploy in a game. Nuh uh.
I need you to sell me on this. I don't doubt the last sentence (or second to last sentence- "Nuh uh" isn't something to be doubted).

However, you're operating under the assumption that Roxy was in her right mind when she voted you.

The vote for you came after the "I'm bad bye" post (I acknowledge the time differential, but Roxy still mentioned pain and I assume being on pain killers).

A completely viable alternative here (for Roxy) is to vote the UNVOTE option.

I ask this of you because I trust your alignment more than Jack's at this stage, but I'm agreeing with more of Jack's posts.

To reword what I'm looking for, assume the position that:

Roxy is mafia.
Roxy gets hurt, gets medical treatment, is in pain / on medication, comes into the thread, needs to vote.
What does she do?

I like this post. I can’t say it doesn’t come from a wolf but like…it’s the way I’ve felt about SVS’s Roxy read and I’ve been unable to get a good answer out of her. Hope Epi did.

Stuck like in a “I have to believe this” kinda way or in a “I don’t know if I should believe this but I keep thinking it” kinda way?

@Justplayingitcool youve updated like one dead slot on the front page

I guess if Abi is a wolf, she does kill Thunal over herself wowee.

Delta, SVS, Abi are all townreads of mine, sure. But I don’t think townreading them enters into a decision to kill Thunal or not kill Thunal. Like in a Delta/whoever or SVS/whoever world, those players do not feel threatened by losing Thunal over Abi.

If I believe Thunal was killed for a reason, that Thunal would do a better job directing town than Abi (and to a lesser degree, SVS and Delta), then I believe in that legacy. I specifically don’t look at Pyxxy. If it were Pyxxy/Roxy, I think Abby dies over Thunal. That’s my starting point.

Super frustrating. Once again gonna have to do all the work myself in a team game and ppl will be like “Jack’s recent posts have been really townie” and we’ll yeet whoever I say to yeet and if I’m right, tomorrow it will be a bus and if I’m wrong, tomorrow it will be because I’m a wolf and wanted to yeet a townie and we can do it all over again.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:23 pm I’ll be gone for EoD. [
If Wilgy flips wolf, look at Roxy or Epi first. Nanook would be tinfoil level and not a first suspect. If Wilgy flips town, I think the game is harder than I expected and I’d look at Jack more closely. If Wilgy flips town I think our PoE is flawed.

If Nanook flips wolf I was probably wrong on Wilgy. If Nanook flips town I’d kill Wilgy unless there’s significant new evidence.

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

If I don’t survive the night, good luck town.

Really, SVS?

The idea that we yeeted who I wanted us to yeet and I’m now trapped is just. Fucking no. Of course that isn’t what’s happening.

I’m town and I thought I had the game solved yesterday and now I think my solve was wrong (because if it’s not, it’s exactly Roxy and Nanook and I don’t think it is) and so I’ve got a wolf in my townreads. Duh.

Yes, the wolfteam Jack and Delta have the same stated POE as Thunal, so we shoot her. Brilliant.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:20 pm I think the mafia is Jack and Delta.

Jack goes first.

I guess that explains it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:13 pm Like the idea of having to reevaluate Epi and consider he could be mafia defending his partner with yucky reasoning is actually painful. I don't want it.
You're trapped.

The only avenue this thought even has is this: "Epignosis at the last minute destroyed his team's role blocker Long Con while also attacking his OTHER partner Roxy and only started "defending" (your word) Roxy after S~V~S (not his teammate) talked him out of it.

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

You think that I’m wolves with Roxy? Are you even reading the game?

I do need to look at D2 more. Like the overall move of votes that day should give some info.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:14 pm Been kind of busy today, and that's not going to get much better. I need to get my vote off leetic, and I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine because they haven't gotten any better in my eyes, slightly worse from their avoidance of the red check gambit. I could vote for Roxy, but some of her reaction just don't fit what I think scum Roxy would play like. Epi put on the blinders and attacked Roxy's content, but maybe the player generating the content is as important as the content itself.

Jack is really turning on the charm here and looking townier than he has all game. Nanook is laying very low and I'm fine with giving him the heave-ho if it comes down to it.

Could Abi be scum? Is that gambit too risky for scum? It might be... I think other players are more familiar with this risky maneuver, such a Abi themselves. What happens when scum try that move?

Not really close to calling leetic scum right now. Or Delta, I don't think Delta's red-check-reaction was all that comparable to pyxxy's, despite the two being regarded similarly.

I'll try to get a few minutes to quick catchup and post before the deadline.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:16 pm Surprised to see three votes on Jack right now, making him the leading wagon. Didn't realize he had picked up that kind of steam, especially now when he's looking better than ever.
Jack, did you ever respond to these assessments from Long Con about you?
Naw. What would I even say to that? I'm very charming ofc.
"What is the basis of you saying this about me, Long Con?" would be one thing.

Like "Jack gains votes, Jack gets annoyed, Jack does actual work and talks to himself for a long time, EOD rolls around, people vote for people other than Jack is like the story of my life." Hence the unyeetable meme. I don't even react to players being like "Jack is towning it up now" or "Jack looks a lot better based on his recent posting." It's every game.

Though I'm never surprised to see people voting for me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:14 pm Been kind of busy today, and that's not going to get much better. I need to get my vote off leetic, and I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine because they haven't gotten any better in my eyes, slightly worse from their avoidance of the red check gambit. I could vote for Roxy, but some of her reaction just don't fit what I think scum Roxy would play like. Epi put on the blinders and attacked Roxy's content, but maybe the player generating the content is as important as the content itself.

Jack is really turning on the charm here and looking townier than he has all game. Nanook is laying very low and I'm fine with giving him the heave-ho if it comes down to it.

Could Abi be scum? Is that gambit too risky for scum? It might be... I think other players are more familiar with this risky maneuver, such a Abi themselves. What happens when scum try that move?

Not really close to calling leetic scum right now. Or Delta, I don't think Delta's red-check-reaction was all that comparable to pyxxy's, despite the two being regarded similarly.

I'll try to get a few minutes to quick catchup and post before the deadline.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:16 pm Surprised to see three votes on Jack right now, making him the leading wagon. Didn't realize he had picked up that kind of steam, especially now when he's looking better than ever.
Jack, did you ever respond to these assessments from Long Con about you?

Naw. What would I even say to that? I'm very charming ofc.

Like the idea of having to reevaluate Epi and consider he could be mafia defending his partner with yucky reasoning is actually painful. I don't want it.

My reaction to one of my two least certain townreads (Epi) townreading my biggest scumread (Roxy) "by proxy" should be like *sus look at Epi.*

Instead it's just "ugh."

My reaction to one of my two least certain townreads (Pyxxy) being floated as teamed with my biggest scumread (still Roxy) is "okay, tell me about it."

I think that means I gth think Epi is townier than Pyxxy for whatever that's worth.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:01 pm And by extension, if S~V~S is confident Roxy is not mafia, I have to step back and in the very least accept her perspective over my own.

There's value in listening to those you trust, and I've not always been the best at that.

Roxy is a civilian by proxy.

Ugh

Counterpoint, I have two other games I'm signed up for in Night 0ish (Landlord game here and Halloween Mash over on MafiaUniverse) so I should really do what I can to win and get nightkilled over here before I find myself multitabling.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:39 pm Jack and Delta on this page look like they are seeking permission to do something.

It's more like "seeking a reason to do something different than just follow the plan that didn't work out yesterday but I still kinda believe in."

And nobody is giving that to me. Granted, it's my responsibility to go find a better plan if the old one isn't gonna work but I've had a long day and also I wanna play video games.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:55 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:11 pm Anyways it's still pyxxy and Roxy

Walk me through or link me to the Pyxxy case. I have my Pyxxy towncase and you vs Pyxxy looked like town vs town but Pyxxy also is like in my two least certain townreads so I'll hear it.

And I think Roxy is wolves here more often than Nanook.
The case is pyxxy is a wolf

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Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:02 pm I'm worried I'm misclearing somewhere but like

I have reason to read people the way I am anyway so if I am misclearing, where? And why am I misreading them. Where are my points weakest?

I dunno. I'm struggling ;_;

I feel ya, bud. Right there with you.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:11 pm Anyways it's still pyxxy and Roxy

Walk me through or link me to the Pyxxy case. I have my Pyxxy towncase and you vs Pyxxy looked like town vs town but Pyxxy also is like in my two least certain townreads so I'll hear it.

And I think Roxy is wolves here more often than Nanook.

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