The Syndicate

You're not gonna fight either?

Ugh I'm outed by my own methodology

I wonder if there is a chance that magpie has been making our votes not count but we haven't noticed because the wagons have never been close enough for it to count?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:11 pm negl, I was gonna switch but idk why LC's choice of font and colour makes me think he's the 3p

i know this is silly but it's 1am and it's all you're getting lmao

I had the same thought lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:59 pm @Long Con if it's not you it's Nanook. So tell me why it's Nanook.
No. It's my day to get chopped.

I'll let you get chopped if you hardclaim 3p and out your entire role.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:07 pm Joe, is there something you see in Nanook that causes you to think that or is it more a matter of POE and he's a mafia master?

PoE plays a big part but he also profiles from today's play. He has shielded me in a way that could be TMI. He also hasn't really been trying to solve today aside from shielding me (who was shielding him). He was in a nice solving rhythm with Ted the other night when they were after mafia but with no mafia left he appears to be out of wim.

To my eye it can't be LC. He'd not give up here as 3p like he is. I trust Ted and his solve. So it's either you or nook. You sold me with your reaction.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] I have decided to bash you

No need

Anywho given that I in fact do trust him aaaand LC has at least proven his role to Tutuu and I kinda am off him. And I like your response to my push here I vote we go Nanook first now.

I'm surprised to see nobody has tinfoiled him.

I know why I trust Tedxtr is town but I am not sure why everyone else is?

[mention]Long Con[/mention] if it's not you it's Nanook. So tell me why it's Nanook.

Why did PC and Ted clear Oddmerta btw?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:50 pm And I didn't say your town play was bad, just that you tried less hard than the rest of us lol
Are you talking to me? I tried less hard than LC?

No I am talking to LC.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm I actually think Juliets is kinda outed as 3p here
How am I outed as 3P? Cause I'm not.
Yes you are.
Nope.

Okay well then who is the 3p Juliets. Who is the amazing imposter among us hmmmm?

It's nobody.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:47 pm Thinking back to day 1 Nutella was pretty sure Juliets was the 3p I think. I think she was right. What pushed it over for me was how she has played today though. Particularly when she said my play had dropped off felt really opportunistic. Especially given she's usually the one who points out things like how I've been camping etc.

She also shielded Logic very hard. I think she was trying to help the last mafia.
If I'm the 3P, why do I want to help the last mafia? And what about the 4 that came before him?

I really don't mind getting chopped here because I think we can still win but your argument doesn't make sense.

Because mafia not dying keeps the focus on mafia and not 3p?

Because you can hard townside as a strategy but at some point the mafia getting smashed this bad becomes a problem for you.

And I didn't say your town play was bad, just that you tried less hard than the rest of us lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:47 pm Thinking back to day 1 Nutella was pretty sure Juliets was the 3p I think. I think she was right. What pushed it over for me was how she has played today though. Particularly when she said my play had dropped off felt really opportunistic. Especially given she's usually the one who points out things like how I've been camping etc.

She also shielded Logic very hard. I think she was trying to help the last mafia.
Yeah, but you were really sure that I, with my roleclaim sketchiness and Worst Town Play In The Game, was a lock.

Then I read your ISO and changed my mind when I saw how anti aligned to the rogue you are.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm I actually think Juliets is kinda outed as 3p here
How am I outed as 3P? Cause I'm not.

Yes you are.

Thinking back to day 1 Nutella was pretty sure Juliets was the 3p I think. I think she was right. What pushed it over for me was how she has played today though. Particularly when she said my play had dropped off felt really opportunistic. Especially given she's usually the one who points out things like how I've been camping etc.

She also shielded Logic very hard. I think she was trying to help the last mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:36 pm You're the one who pushed it to me. No one to blame but yourself. I voted YOU!
I said that I changed my mind after I did that
How would you feel if I always talked like this though?

I'd love it. Never stop.

I actually think Juliets is kinda outed as 3p here

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:03 am After isoing LC I'm a little bit off the idea of him being the 3p.

See

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:36 pm You're the one who pushed it to me. No one to blame but yourself. I voted YOU!

I said that I changed my mind after I did that

*chucks tantrum*

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:13 pm Reeeee I actually don't know who it is this the suck
Have fun.

No tell me what to do

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:13 pmYou next

Fiiine

Reeeee I actually don't know who it is this the suck

No me

If I am being hard POE here I want to die first. I've done more than enough for this town and I don't need my in game legacy ruined by losing in the late game to a 3p. Y'all can have that.

If you want to yeet me at least do the courtesy of reading my ISO. In it you will find more than enough evidence I am town, extremely committed to a town win con and also very good at mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:33 am So when I looked at this game the first time I realised that we actually need to hunt this rogue because the setup is listed as town vs. mafia vs. rogue and Sloonei wouldn't have written it that way if there was:

a) more than one independent
b) the independent can win with the other alignments

Now Wilgy is clearly just memeing (like to 99%) but if we DO in fact catch a rogue or someone hard claims 3p we need to just turbo them.
Here's something that could be "something to look for". Joseph was the first one in the game to seriously bring up the presence of the Rogue in this game, having suddenly "realised" that the Rogue was probably a threat. One explanation for this would be that Joseph is the Rogue himself, and wanted to be seen as a Rogue-hunter as cover. The "realised" would be intentionally placed to further cement the idea that he didn't already know exactly what the Rogue is about.

So you cite this post that effectively clears me of being the rogue if you use even one iota of rationality as rogue aligned. Tunnel harder nerd.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 am Yeah I assume you can make some wild speculation about the Magpie message received, but in that game the 3p didn't notify people.

Again, Magpie is on an album with only civvies, which is King Of The Limbs/

I thought it KOL had no mafia on it. Not that it was only town?

[VOTE: STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 am that was the independent role Sloonei used in another of his games

hope this is not rule breaking or whatever, prolly should've asked first

Nah that's not rule breaking you gucci

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:38 am

Sloonei creation right?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:14 am Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.
No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy though was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

K

The 3p absolutely has a wincon related to the song bullshit. It makes too much sense.

Hey let's make Radiohead mafia. A weird as fuck game where there are like songcops and song related mafia bs and make the rogue not related to songs.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 am Honestly, I was very tempted to suggest not yeeting.

Not having a factional, to me, is very suggestive that 3p hasn't yet accomplished his wincon but he doesn't have a standalone wincon.

Not giving them a factional is weird - how are they supposed to meet a "you have to be the last standing" wincon without it.
Vote stacker and Arsonist are the first two things that come to mind

Nah this game is weird and Sloonei is weird. The 3p has a weird wincon.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:35 am I think if they are a threat to us and they do actually have a standalone wincon, we should just let Poison keep doing her thing, looking for roles, assuming she has shots left and then we would have at least a slightly more educated guess on where we should look at.

I'm assuming they won't nk tomorrow either.

Iirc, 3p just had to visit Poison in order to cancel her result, so what are they doing??

Huh?

Now I don't think it's her either.

Paging [mention]tedxtr[/mention] to the thread.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:32 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:30 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:26 am The only time it's funny for non-tutu people is if tutu is actually 3p that incorrectly thought they had a locked win. Or if they're a jester ig but if there's a game ending jester in this game I will riot.

Otherwise it's just kinda dickish.
Mafia is about having fun!
Why did you wait until the day started to rescind your stunt? Were you trying to influence the actions of the other players?

See from a town perspective, you have to go
There was 6 hours, most ppl were afk, and if anyone changed their night actions itnwould be maybe mafia killing me or some shit dunno
"most people were afk" when me, long con, juliets, nanook, ted, mac, logic, wilgy, and alison all reacted to you claim

lol

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:45 am if tutuu is town i'll probably find her fakeclaim funny eventually but for now it's just kind of pissing me off lol

Alright. I think this is the most meaty thing and it's kinda whack but here goes.

I think SPF has a tell. I think she has a lol tell.

I think she felt genuinely humoured by the idea that Tutuu fake claimed 3p and was getting herself killed, in a way that the 3p would. Schadenfreude kidna.

I don't believe that she was pissed off in the slightest. She just said that to justify voting there. And if someone is pissed off, what kind of follow up is lol?

Just doesn't sit right.

Oddmerta didn't really provide any reasoning at all either. Lame.

Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

SPF, Ted, Oddmerta, Nanook.

I'm gonna draw a line through Ted outright and read the other three.

So LC voted himself because he was protest voting Tutuu.

If I am right it literally just narrows it down to PC and Juliets. Which I'm not vibing. So back to the drawing board. Let's look at the reasoning that the actual voters that are alive gave then.

I feel like it might be >rand for the actual 3p to have been offwagon (not including Dizzy) on Tutuu simply because they KNEW she wasn't the 3p so they would have found it it easier to push against the idea than fake actually thinking she was. Like the 3p at that time isn't in the game of creating misyeets because there is still a mafia alive and it's always easier to nope something than it is to fake emotion/thoughts.

Read Nook's ISO. Doubt he's 3p.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:07 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:05 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:57 am Personally I think there are just as many holes in Long Con's claim. I still don't understand how he could have misread his role PM as vanilla. When asked "I guess it's because my role is unimportant" is just straight bullshit honestly. If anyone is phoning it in cuz their team has been tanked it's probably him lol. Also his role doesn't super make sense in the context of all the other ones.
My concern is that the 3P is very likely NOT phoning it in.

Unless I guess they are someone who just hates the idea altogether.

One man gang against both sides, with some decent powers (presumably), I'd be playing all out.

We can whack these slankers, but I dunno if that gets the 3P. How we gonna find this guy if they are a hard worker?
First of all we clear the POE and out the mafia. That proves that the 3P is hiding in the trusted people. Then, we examine which of these people have the most 3P equity. For example, people who are trusted off good looking interactions with flipped mafia. At this point some town roles will certainly have died and we'll know to trust their results. We can then hopefully use a combination of remaining towncore (I don't think 3P is in the hard towncore, they've towned too hard for that) and mech solves to root out the 3P and win.
Ok this makes me feel better.

One post reading this as not 3p.

I think PC isn't the 3p. I see no reason why they would out Dyslexicon as definitely civ after the mafia are dead if they were 3p.

After isoing LC I'm a little bit off the idea of him being the 3p.

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