The Syndicate

HK/Belzy

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:55 pm Belzy otoh feels townie

HK gives a TR on Belzy

Dat's it chief.

Belzy Side:

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:33 am Belzy
Falcon
Tutuu
Cait
Space
HK
Wilg
Porscha
Pyxxy
Nook
Finger
Baker
Sean
Roxy
Kate

Posting for reference

Belz provides a readlist with HK in a middling position. This was after HK had received multiple votes previously.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:06 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:33 pm HK is a fine wagon.

Why is HK a fine wagon? During my catchup I don't see enough for HK being the leading wagon, and you are defending that wagon without given reason.

HK wagon is questioned against Sean. Feels like a defense on HK's slot.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:11 am

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:07 am It's time to dismount the hollowkatt wagon. Baker is here.

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

HK was already the leading wagon, so you are just a bandwagon hopper at this point. What is your reason for this vote?

Actively dissuades Baker from voting HK per bandwagonning.
! This one is interesting, as it feels that Belzy is taking a dissaproving stance towards Baker's vote, rather than trying to just understand it calling it Bandwagoning !

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:19 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:07 am Also pyxxy and hkatt not w/w i predict w pyxxy would bus hkatt here

If there is wolf in them, then it think pyyxxy rather than HK.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:14 am Like its not a reaction test bcuz pyxxy acknowledges and admits unfair expectation, putting less pressure on daisy

Its not a scumread again coz of the aforementioned

This line "i acknowledge this is an unfair expectation" is just ultra scummy to me. Wolves write that all the time to not piss off people

I can see that.

Offer's Pyxxy as an alt to HK

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:11 am Tutuu: I don't like this wagon.
Space: I don't like this wagon.
Kate: I like this wagon.
Pyxxy: I like this wagon.
Nook: I like this wagon.
HK: I don't like this wagon.

More HK wagon dissaproval.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:30 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:39 am

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:34 am Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What about Sean is worse than nothing?

Your vote on Tutuu, your approval of the HK wagon, and your scumreads.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:43 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:05 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:30 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:39 am

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:34 am Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What about Sean is worse than nothing?

Your vote on Tutuu, your approval of the HK wagon, and your scumreads.

My vote on Tutuu is a just a holdover from page 3. I've already said this to you. Are you listening, or do you just want to chop me no matter what?

What is wrong with the HK wagon? I'm not even on it and it has 3 others, so I am not the only one who views HK as potentially bad. Since you said you don't like my scumreads, does that mean you townread Baker? They're voting HK.

Tell me about HK. What is your take on their slot?

Yes, I was listening, but you asked me about it and I don't like the placeholding stuff.

Most votes on HK came without good reason in my opinion. I have yet to read a good reason to vote off HK.

Baker I was semi-scumreading.

Active opposition to Seanzie's approach of the HK wagon.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:55 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:54 pm Belzy is too adorable omfg i just wanna pat their head and hug them

Sleep sleep smol belzy sleeepppp

Isnt it almost 9 pm in the netherlands? Its time for babies to sleeepppppp sleepyyyy sleeepyyy guguuu gagaaaa

Do u want me to sing u a lullaby? My dad used to sing it to me

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little puppy. And it went - bau bau bau!

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little kitty. And it went - meow meow meow!

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little cow. And it went - moo moo moo!

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little froggie. And it went - kero kero kero!

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little pyxxie. And it went - woof woof woof!

In a little fooorest under a small tree. There it went, the little horsie. And it went - neigh neigh neigh!

And yes, the pyxxie went woof.
[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Between HK and Pyxxy, the two leading wagons, I still believe Pyxxy is our best bet.

Puts Pyxxy ahead of HK.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:30 pm [VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Puts Nook ahead of HK

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:51 am Hk could be scum too, actually.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:23 am if Belzy is W, as Porscha/Belzy are likely not W/W, the world where Pyxxy is W reopens.

Belzy is V, so lets say pyxxy is V too then.

Porscha W? Maybe... what about Kate, HK,...

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:41 pm I am behind, catching up wise.

LC, Kate, Falcon and Caitlin are our wagon leaders. What made Finger and HK less point of interest?

and then went into d2 questioning if HK was scum, but only after other players.

Conclusion:
Push Belz off a cliff. Belzy went out of their way to defend and save HK d1 and then changed tone once Seanzie was no longer around to argue with on the subject now that HK was in a better position.

HK/Lime

HK side:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.

One of the first interactions was calling Baker a wolf.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.

im debating if i should continue trusting my baker townread or if i should townread hkatt here and trust him that baker is scummy. not sure whats the play

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:53 pm u could argue that baker is scum whos going for the white knight town cait play

maybe the safest play is to take away that cait is more reinforced townread and hold off on reading baker and hkatt for now

I think it's safe to say there's minimum one wolf between baker, cait, and falcon

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:44 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:16 pm Hollowkatt and Nanook also realistically prob contains a mafia; both make a read once in a blue moon - usually without explanation - and also either aren't voting or still have their first vote out there

Looking at Nanook more here because Hollowkatt had a townier start. I feel like town!Nanook would have done more atp, whereas mafia!Nanook could just let this thread state be bad

Mostly D1 is about finding townies more than it is finding wolves. If I can find a list of people I don't want to kill then (assuming I'm not bassackwards) all I need to do is chop everyone else yeah?

atm I'm good with tutuu, they're obvs. Baker was a sussy baka during their catch up.
Seanzie I am withholding a read on. Mostly b/c he hasn't asked for one. I think you're probably town and if so Falcon/Baker look more sus b/c of the way they're pushing on you (lhf/fluffy basically) which when it's the bulk of the case either comes from a wolf or comes from someone who's not really grokking the game. Either way it's a place to look.

Belzy I think is also town.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.

im debating if i should continue trusting my baker townread or if i should townread hkatt here and trust him that baker is scummy. not sure whats the play

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:53 pm u could argue that baker is scum whos going for the white knight town cait play

maybe the safest play is to take away that cait is more reinforced townread and hold off on reading baker and hkatt for now

I think it's safe to say there's minimum one wolf between baker, cait, and falcon

Blast this the moment there's an indication Baker & Falcon are TvT

why do you say that?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:47 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm Blast this the moment there's an indication Baker & Falcon are TvT

It's funny because from my PoV, Hollowkatt now has made a situation where the 'atleast one wolf' does apply, but with Hollowkatt included, because if there's 3 townies then Hollowkatt looks very bad over it

An uncalled for 'has to be a mafia in it' isn't a very good look when it's on 3 townies after all-

So Hollowkatt, you better come with a very good explanation to avoid being the D1 elim~

I said that because it's been a focus from falcon/baker for a hot minute and if they're wrong they're pushing you for what I feel are flimsy reasons indicating there may be a wolf behind the push. I lumped you in there because you're the one they're focusing on.
What makes you think all three of you are town to the point where you'd instagib me? like that's pretty damn confident.

HK expands the Baker W read to Falc/Cait/Baker. With Falc/Baker showing pattern and Cait being the focus of the pattern.

HK did not have any notable interactions with Lime

Baker side:

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:07 am It's time to dismount the hollowkatt wagon. Baker is here.

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:15 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:11 am

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:07 am It's time to dismount the hollowkatt wagon. Baker is here.

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

HK was already the leading wagon, so you are just a bandwagon hopper at this point. What is your reason for this vote?

hollowkatt is one of the people that throws my name around easily. Caitlin is miles townier and I liked Falcon's reactions so far from what I am reading.

Baker dropping a vote on HK while HK was ahead is a good look. I don't see a wolf providing the opportunity for a teammate to just get buried as early as baker did.

baker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:30 pm My vote stays on hollowkatt because they thrown my name out there and it seems like it was done in bad intention.

FOS Seanzie

And Baker reaffirms the vote.

Lime side:
*crickets*

Conclusion:
Trouble telling if HK pushing Baker when others weren't looking that way was a push or distancing. Adding Falcon and Caitlin to this 'suspicion' trifecta of HK's made what could have been a W pushing a T into a WIFOM case, but I'd say that there is a tension between Lime and Falcon now because of it. They were both pushed for being too fluffy.

Baker's interactions with HK look pretty good. Half the mind to think that this isn't a good vote today because of Baker's interaction's towards HK. Baker was out of the game with the vote still on HK too.

Lime's lack of interactions with HK is very meh.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:32 pm Just skimmed through catching up on Porscha last night.

Somewhat confused how people see town here. There's still minimal hunting and I know T Porscha can T spew. Also Porscha not interacting or even showing any signs of attempting to read me in spite of my suspicion on their slot is yet another thing that's weird about their slot.

The Lime Coke vote feels in likeness to Nook and it's off-putting.

Aw wilgy do you want me to talk about you :3

yes plz. I miss you.

Good morning everyone.

Didn't realize there was an extension till now, thought they just exploded and that was that.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:17 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:16 pm Reskimmed Caitlin and I disapprove of this wagon still.

Caitlin had a very towny d1 and what bit of content we got d2 seems like it's coming from a town perspective. The bad Falcon vote is wrong, but understandable.

Hollowkatt? Diet coke?

HK haven't done yet, but it seems overnight the interest there wained.

Coke I'd yeet, but I'm somewhat distrusting of Porscha and Tutuu voting there.

Reskimmed Caitlin and I disapprove of this wagon still.

Caitlin had a very towny d1 and what bit of content we got d2 seems like it's coming from a town perspective. The bad Falcon vote is wrong, but understandable.

Lime Coke still tonally feels better than the previous self in Baker, but the ISO is far too fluffy.

Reskimmed and I think I've seen a poke at Caitlin and that's about it. Toss it overboard.

Skimmed Belzy and I'm underwhelmed.

Could vote here but the thoughts of misalignment between Belzy and Porscha makes me think it's not the correct between the two.
Belzy's ISO this day seems to be just minimally poking here and there with willy nilly votes that feels like busy work.

Is the reason Belzy is townread just tone? Doesn't anyone have a good reason beyond that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:30 pm Lc wilgy splint ig

Your insistence that I'm wolf without actually putting forward anything to indicate that it's read based is starting to feel like your just trying to keep the PoE open.

However, I've misread you for this before so idk what to make of it.

Skimmed Splints.

Meh. I'd say Splints is about as middling as possible. I liked the Nook defence as that looked like T splints, but there's been not much else. I'd still vote here.

Just skimmed through catching up on Porscha last night.

Somewhat confused how people see town here. There's still minimal hunting and I know T Porscha can T spew. Also Porscha not interacting or even showing any signs of attempting to read me in spite of my suspicion on their slot is yet another thing that's weird about their slot.

The Lime Coke vote feels in likeness to Nook and it's off-putting.

Though, it makes sense that Falcon's two voters wouldn't know this.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:45 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:33 pm [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

I think those two slots could easily be partnered, look at bakers early defense of Caitlin.

I arise from my silence to suggest looking into Falcon after I probably get voted out today due to not being replaced

This post is just nonsensical, look at the vote count lol

And also undermines Pyxxy's defense of me

Gonna make sure my replacement is placed at potential mafia;

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Falcon's polarized. They'd have voted and just left thread I think.

There's plenty of evidence this game to show T Falcon this game and I will oppose all Falcon voters.

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:29 pm I shall not succumb to the splints pocket. However warm and cozy it may be.

It’s nice and toasty

Fine

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I shall not succumb to the splints pocket. However warm and cozy it may be.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:44 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:35 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:28 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:11 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:08 pm

nah not Wiggly Wigly. I meant Lime Coke.

It's only coke zero for me, lady jane.

you are dancing around topics. Not good.

You said "Jinx now buy me a Lime Coke"

I asked "why is that your partner"

spin on spin doctor

ok

wigly why are you responding to posts that are not directed at you?
First tutuu
now kate.

you told the doctor to spin...

I'm also a doctor, but no one believes me or cares.

And thus we should spin together!

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:28 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:11 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:08 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:01 pm

why is that your partner?

Wilgy?? Lmao. I wouldn't know Wilgy's alignment if I saw his role PM. Iykyk.

nah not Wiggly Wigly. I meant Lime Coke.

It's only coke zero for me, lady jane.

you are dancing around topics. Not good.

You said "Jinx now buy me a Lime Coke"

I asked "why is that your partner"

spin on spin doctor

ok

wigly why are you responding to posts that are not directed at you?
First tutuu
now kate.

you told the doctor to spin...

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:27 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:11 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:08 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:01 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:58 pm I'm offering a [VOTE: Splints] aubergine wagon to you.

I request a single slimy nickel in return.

Jinx, buy me a lime coke.

why is that your partner?

Wilgy?? Lmao. I wouldn't know Wilgy's alignment if I saw his role PM. Iykyk.

nah not Wiggly Wigly. I meant Lime Coke.

It's only coke zero for me, lady jane.

you are dancing around topics. Not good.

You said "Jinx now buy me a Lime Coke"

I asked "why is that your partner"

spin on spin doctor

ok

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:55 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:54 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:48 pm both hkatt and fs ignored my question asking them what are their scumreads, if they have 3 ppl they suspect

what are yours?

fs kate and im not sure on the last one. wilgy maybe but my heart's not in it

Am I really that scary to read?

I'm offering a [VOTE: Splints] aubergine wagon to you.

I request a single slimy nickel in return.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:53 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:45 pm there has to be at least 1 wolf between kate and fs right?

fs susses kate. alternatively kate is easy mischop if town. if both fs and kate are town - who tf are the wolves

It's posts like these that keep the crap going on this site it's just like Scotty/Pyxxy, falcon/Seanzie now splints/Kate.

WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????????


Kate is never an easy mischop I have zero idea where you get that from.

If you want to find wolves scum hunt instead of townie hunting. Just my opinion.

I mean, Kate is an easy mischop if town exclusively in this gamestate. I don't think that should be read as a perpetual meta telling.

What's the issue with trying to solve combinations of players? I think the argument is if FS susses Kate then Kate/FS not W/W. However both being somewhat scummy so far makes one think there is one between them.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:48 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:47 pm this is the 2nd day phase in a row hkatt offers townreads on other slots in poe and offers no scumreads. idk if this is towny or not. he didnt vote yesterday too. just weird. im trying to think if it means anything

It means he's POE IMO

This.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:23 am if Belzy is W, as Porscha/Belzy are likely not W/W, the world where Pyxxy is W reopens.

Belzy is V, so lets say pyxxy is V too then.

Porscha W? Maybe... what about Kate, HK,...

Pretty much. I've stated this previously, but I'd think both T Kate and HK would have more visible signs and efforts of hunting. If that's not possible because of other ongoing, fine, but we need to get there eventually.

If we can provide the time for them to town tell, then cool, but I'll not weep if we throw them over. My concern is that do we really think both of these null to sr slots are actually wolves? Do we honestly think we just have two sleepy wolves in them both?

I think this is where I'm at as of this morning. I'm gonna get some lunch... I'm thinking Jack in the Box.

unmentioned townies

Lime
Kate

Splints
HK

Belzy
Porscha

Skimmed HK's ISO.

Their takes:
Lime Coke W
Belzy T
Tutuu T
Cait T
Porscha T
Daisy T

#396 and their general levity remind me of T HK, but T HK also hunts more than this.

I think HK and Kate are comparable as middling null reads that I'd like to see hunt more because I know they can, if they don't we can shoot them into the cold void of space to endlessly drift for all eternity.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:49 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:09 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:08 am that was a joke i really do need you. thank you for being my friends and tolerating me. i love u so much. i wish i could hug u all and kiss u on the cheek

wah wah wah cry me a river u little bitch. shut the fuck up

that's more like it

you think that im a little bitch?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:15 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:06 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:44 am Kate however ........ whoever is calling her lhf is probs her partners bc nothing and I do mean NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Roxy am I misunderstanding here? Kate called herself lhf and I saw you imply that those taking kate's lhf were likely her partners?

Kate can call herself whatever she likes, but surely you don't think of her ever as lhf?






Regardless of titles she self applies

Considering I often get limited by play time early game resulting in my frequent misyeet, I can at least see where the lhf commentary is coming from.

I don't, however, think that it's AI. Either alignment Kate makes that argument.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:10 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:06 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:44 am Kate however ........ whoever is calling her lhf is probs her partners bc nothing and I do mean NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Roxy am I misunderstanding here? Kate called herself lhf and I saw you imply that those taking kate's lhf were likely her partners?

should have used orange as I was being totes sarcastic with this remark. I have got to remember to use sarc when I need to.

so yeah you misinterpreted something easily misinterpreted bc I did not use orange.

why do you seem to be defending Kate?

Ah, I see.

I'm not defending Kate, trying to parse you and Splints. You I think it's easier for the reasons I stated above in regards to being able to trust Splint's read of you regardless of their alignment.

I do not know if Splint's commentary is genuine re Kate. Seanzie seemed to not think so, but Seanzie's position on Splints was prior to Splint's commentary on Nook that I liked.

Kate can be tossed overboard, but I'm not going to pretend that there's a real read behind it. It's mostly that I know Kate can get pelts and I'm not seeing that rn.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:44 am Kate however ........ whoever is calling her lhf is probs her partners bc nothing and I do mean NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Roxy am I misunderstanding here? Kate called herself lhf and I saw you imply that those taking kate's lhf were likely her partners?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:58 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:43 am Skimmed through Splints and I'm torn.

The takes on Nook are good. Looks like a fair T assessment to make.

The commentary on Kate is weird. @fingersplints, why did the LHF comment give you pause exactly?

Kate is comfortable in any game. Her calling herself LHF feels disingenuous

I'd think there to be a difference between comfort levels and lhf arguments.

i.e. if Kate either alignment felt they were being voted for the inability to be present I feel would make this argument.

So why would it give you pause rather than just being NAI?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:52 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:43 am Skimmed through Splints and I'm torn.

The takes on Nook are good. Looks like a fair T assessment to make.

The commentary on Kate is weird. @fingersplints, why did the LHF comment give you pause exactly?

what? Wait a minute.

I felt the same as splints, do you feel diff about Kate than we do?

Kate is not lhf just bc she has not posted a lot this game does NOT - I repeat- does NOT make her lhf. Btw she called *herself* lhf first. You do not find that most odd?
You find splints odd bc she had the same take as me?

I am confused by your post.

What is there to be confused about?

I didn't think that your takes were the same, I thought your opinion on Kate was that the players taking the Kate declared LHF were teamed up with her and were distancing?

Splints seemed to have issue with it but I didn't see why.

Skimmed through Splints and I'm torn.

The takes on Nook are good. Looks like a fair T assessment to make.

The commentary on Kate is weird. @fingersplints, why did the LHF comment give you pause exactly?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:47 am also why wouldn't one of my teammates just move to nook and spare me the rand

like who cares if I'm not online

there was oodles of time to just confirm nook's death, no? (I wasn't there tell me if I'm wrong)

Not really. I tied you two up at 8 min till bell.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:52 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:16 am I mostly agree, but why are Roxy, Porscha and Belzy where they are?

roxy just a gutread. i havent seen her wolf tho

porscha i think i can read well. she was chill d1, wasnt anxious due to wolfing like id think she would be. idk what was all that about bout being a rebellious teen with the ignore sean stuff but it seemed towny to me too. she seems to be a solo agent. i dont think she has 2 teammates by her play

belzy i havent seen wolf but is jus mega town to me. got so emotional over sean misunderstanding something, and just ... hard to explain. just very pure

Ty.

Re Roxy, I tr for what feels like a dumb reason. Splints providing the TR makes Splints either a W pocketing T Roxy or a T who's just correct on Roxy (as I think Splints posseses a Roxy read card.) It feels like a dumb reason because of how little content between Splints and Roxy there was at this time.

When Porscha was W not too long ago and I got got I had felt the same way, so I guess I'm holding reservations on tone reading Porscha. The Seanzie thing really feels like an argument dismissing W to me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:47 am tutuu
Caitlin
pyxxy
falcon45ca
Belzy
Spacedaisy

Porscha
Roxy

baker / Lime Coke
DrWilgy

hollowkatt
Kate
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I mostly agree, but why are Roxy, Porscha and Belzy where they are?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:43 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:40 am Its the fact he's playing more serious than not that makes me pause on him. But I haven't played with him for a while. His reasoning is perfectly sound, generally. Though maybe he TMI'd by just treating it like v/v without conversation? I can see it either way with Wilgy.

Oh, Daisy, I'm hurt. I'm always serious

You know I love you Wilgy. I am undecided on you, neither good or bad at the moment. I can see potential reason to think either one.

But you haven't licked anyone yet. How can I not find that suspicious?

I gotta spam my forum history with non lick shenanigans. Can't risk the kids one day reviewing my full syndicate ISO.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:43 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:41 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:35 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:26 am ok ill concede that theres a possibility that sean didnt catch all the wolves but i wont stop respecting his pyx top townread im dying on that hill

Given that pyx didn't vote to self pres, I'm going to say this is probably correct.

Again, why is the emphasis on self pres here? I agree with the V/V argument but how you are getting here is odd. Again, Pyxxy wasn't at risk until I voted for them at like 10 min prior to EoD. Is it not more likely that Pyxxy was just not around?

Because pyxxy said when they voted that they were voting tutuu and they wouldn't move it, not even for self pres and never did. But fair point. Why are you so convinced pyxxy is town?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:22 am Well it's like I put in #986. Pyxxy wasn't saved by the Nook wagon. I tried saving Nook by putting Pyxxy at a tie with Nook.

Pyxxy being V isn't a foregone conclusion, but it just makes sense, I think. W Pyxxy doesn't yeet T Seanzie, T Pyxxy doesn't get tr'd and then sr'd by W Porscha.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:40 am Its the fact he's playing more serious than not that makes me pause on him. But I haven't played with him for a while. His reasoning is perfectly sound, generally. Though maybe he TMI'd by just treating it like v/v without conversation? I can see it either way with Wilgy.

Oh, Daisy, I'm hurt. I'm always serious

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:38 am kate + fs + wilgy how about that?

breaks my heart to consider scumreading wilgy coz hes putting so much effort relative to normal gimmick wilgy posting. and i dig his thought processes a lot. but sadly sometimes u need to kill what u love

coward

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:35 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:26 am ok ill concede that theres a possibility that sean didnt catch all the wolves but i wont stop respecting his pyx top townread im dying on that hill

Given that pyx didn't vote to self pres, I'm going to say this is probably correct.

Again, why is the emphasis on self pres here? I agree with the V/V argument but how you are getting here is odd. Again, Pyxxy wasn't at risk until I voted for them at like 10 min prior to EoD. Is it not more likely that Pyxxy was just not around?

if Belzy is W, as Porscha/Belzy are likely not W/W, the world where Pyxxy is W reopens.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:15 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:13 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:59 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:51 pm I feel like Porscha is town, personally. Why including Porscha?

Mostly the same reason why I thought it was there yesterday.

Porscha had expressed a total of like 2, maybe 3 reads:
TR on Seanzie
Joking SR on Tutuu?
Joking TR on Pyxxy?
Then willy nilly voted Nook.
And D1 felt within their wolf range.

More recently their outright refusal of working in Seanzie's legacy is weird and dismisses good arguments from a known town. Also then to vote Pyxxy who previously received a tr from Porscha, even if joking, after Pyxxy's number 1 supporter is gobbledygooked is just weird.

Ah, ok, that's a pretty thought out reason. Not sure how I feel about it, but I can see your logic. Do you think pyxxy/nook were v/v then?

V/V seems just immediately more likely than not, but that's with my bias towards solving Porscha/Belzy. If I'm incorrect then I'd need to do some reconsideration.

That explains why you would find Porscha's vote weird. If you consider maybe someone thinks it's possible that pyxxy was being saved, then a vote on pyxxy might not seem so weird. I lean v/v too myself, but I don't assume v/v. Interesting that it's a foregone conclusion for you, not even a consideration until I asked.

Well it's like I put in #986. Pyxxy wasn't saved by the Nook wagon. I tried saving Nook by putting Pyxxy at a tie with Nook.

Pyxxy being V isn't a foregone conclusion, but it just makes sense, I think. W Pyxxy doesn't yeet T Seanzie, T Pyxxy doesn't get tr'd and then sr'd by W Porscha.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:59 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:51 pm I feel like Porscha is town, personally. Why including Porscha?

Mostly the same reason why I thought it was there yesterday.

Porscha had expressed a total of like 2, maybe 3 reads:
TR on Seanzie
Joking SR on Tutuu?
Joking TR on Pyxxy?
Then willy nilly voted Nook.
And D1 felt within their wolf range.

More recently their outright refusal of working in Seanzie's legacy is weird and dismisses good arguments from a known town. Also then to vote Pyxxy who previously received a tr from Porscha, even if joking, after Pyxxy's number 1 supporter is gobbledygooked is just weird.

Ah, ok, that's a pretty thought out reason. Not sure how I feel about it, but I can see your logic. Do you think pyxxy/nook were v/v then?

V/V seems just immediately more likely than not, but that's with my bias towards solving Porscha/Belzy. If I'm incorrect then I'd need to do some reconsideration.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:36 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:31 pm I, for one, agree with sheeping Seanzie.

YOU WUOLD!!!

Don't blame me, bro has the secret sauce.

Further on this, I'm reading through the ISO now and I'm finding Seanzie constantly going back to questioning how they feel about Belzy. There's some in there about Porscha too in their rainbow, but I don't know if that'd be threatening enough to kill over.

Something that's interesting is that removing Seanzie would definitely help enable the Pyxxy wagon today which may have been seen as a strong enough wagon yesterday.

Seanzie wanted LC, FS, Daisy, HK as well.

With the exception of Daisy I could yeet in there. Could also toss in Belzy OR Porscha.

Meh, honestly just have a hankering to just solve in Belzy and Porscha the more I think on it.

LC feels like he's actually interested solving instead of just sheeping. FS has not been very active due to real life things and I would expect a different kill from her if she wasn't up to speed, but it could be she has teammates that made the call. I lean town on HK too.

If pyx is bad then there have to be some baddies in the Nook mislim, but what if it was v/v? Maybe they could sit back and let us decimate each other. I guess deciding if/who is bad on the Nook mislim will depend on what I think of pyxxy for me... Have we heard from Pyxxy since Day 2 started yet?

"If Pyx is bad then there have to be some baddies in the Nook mislim" I think is odd, I was the one who tied Pyxxy to Nook, Nook was sitting at 4 from the moment I got to thread and it didn't seem like their wagon was going anywhere. It's not like Pyxxy was in the lead and then Nook took over saving Pyxxy right?

Also I think the question of 'who is bad on the Nook mislim' is far more likely than 'if there was a bad on the Nook mislim,' A W voting Nook had no reason to not just plant a vote and vibe. That's somewhat even more so if their teammate is in HK or Pyxxy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:51 pm I feel like Porscha is town, personally. Why including Porscha?

Mostly the same reason why I thought it was there yesterday.

Porscha had expressed a total of like 2, maybe 3 reads:
TR on Seanzie
Joking SR on Tutuu?
Joking TR on Pyxxy?
Then willy nilly voted Nook.
And D1 felt within their wolf range.

More recently their outright refusal of working in Seanzie's legacy is weird and dismisses good arguments from a known town. Also then to vote Pyxxy who previously received a tr from Porscha, even if joking, after Pyxxy's number 1 supporter is gobbledygooked is just weird.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:50 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine.

NO!

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:36 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:31 pm I, for one, agree with sheeping Seanzie.

YOU WUOLD!!!

Don't blame me, bro has the secret sauce.

Further on this, I'm reading through the ISO now and I'm finding Seanzie constantly going back to questioning how they feel about Belzy. There's some in there about Porscha too in their rainbow, but I don't know if that'd be threatening enough to kill over.

Something that's interesting is that removing Seanzie would definitely help enable the Pyxxy wagon today which may have been seen as a strong enough wagon yesterday.

Seanzie wanted LC, FS, Daisy, HK as well.

With the exception of Daisy I could yeet in there. Could also toss in Belzy OR Porscha.

Meh, honestly just have a hankering to just solve in Belzy and Porscha the more I think on it.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:31 pm I, for one, agree with sheeping Seanzie.

YOU WUOLD!!!

Don't blame me, bro has the secret sauce.