The Syndicate

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:29 pm As far as role-claiming is concerned, I generally feel like it should be allowed so long as either:

1. The roles don't have a unique name; i.e. a large part of the game have exact same role name

or

2. Roles have very little or nothing to do with alignment

Yea I get the role claiming that was more directed to the angel shoot convo personally I don't like them but im from another era.

I did also really like the option to vote multiple times it added a fun dynamic. I'd definitely sign up for another of your games, buuuut make me mafia next time.

Thanks for the game btw Martin, I had fun was a nice little dip back into mafia.

I would suggest in the future for post count stuff dont let people go over it ended up kind off defeating the purpose imo.

Also in general I reallt really hate role claiming if we wanna talk about angle shooting why not claims also since the whole issue revolving angle seems to be tied to role claiming it kind of forces angle shooting

I wasn't a fan of some of the stuff that happened but I like Ted wasn't really properly engaged and once everyone started civ reading me for no good reason that kinda killed it for me.

I do want it noted that Marmot tried to get me lynched so shame on him.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:04 pm Sorry, I shoulda let him keep playing

Lol honeslty I would've

Well half right

Nvm its over and rip my last post was wrong

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:51 am @sig @Marmot

whats ur current stance

I can't get over the whiplash of Alison right now, like why is she back on esooa, but believe tuutuu? If anything first docter clear should be the most clear since nobody called them out right?

Either way I think it makes more sense to stay the course today lynch Alison. Especially after everyone was redirected to LC from Alison last phase and it ended with a civ here.

If Alison isn't mafia then I'd say she's probably right on Esooa and other mafia member would have to be Marmot potentially ted.

If she is mafia her partner is gonna be wilgy, which honestly seems the most likely.

And if he was role fishing that means he knows a cop isn't real so we're still in same issue

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:17 pm Parting thoughts. I don't think Wilgy's claim looks great. He did hint (explicitly) that he was a doctor when he entered the game, though that is a standard Wilgy entrance so it was an easy one.
Marmot knows that Wilgy always enters the game claiming to be a doctor as a running joke, but asks whether or not it was a real claim afterwards, when they should have known it was just the standard Wilgy opener and NAI. I think he was rolefishing.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

But. He's since seriously claimed?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:07 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:35 pm marmot hasn't done much this game, a bit of hunting sure but not alot. So he's a null for me.

He does keep calling me out a bit, which i'm not a fan of. However, the days of sig getting easily mislynched are gone (maybe) so could this be a potential scape goat or what?
I couldn't resist pointing you to something someone said in a different game just now.

Omfg i found it. I legit started laughing perfect timing.

Annnnd Alison has too many posts for me to read right now, but she's probably my highest suspect right now.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:20 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:50 pm i just had this dream where we were playing some dnd/roleplaying game. nanook was the host and there were 4 players. alison (i subbed in for her), macdougall, syn, and 1 more person i forgot. mac kept complaining that im euro and new and i got increasingly frustrated at him, and as soon as we had started i wrote "tutuu anxiously started tapping her foot, looking around her" and before i hit enter nanook said "inb4 tutuu names her character after herself, that would be silly :P" and my frustration grew tenfold so i didnt wanna post anymore. syn was the only one who was nice to me. but then i woke up and i got worried if we're still playing and i felt bad cuz i didnt wanna just ditch the group so i kept thinking if i should open discord and ask ppl but i ~think~ it was a dream right. i wonder what it means. if its a prophecy for this game somehow
Town. Syn is town from the dream. I'm pocketed.

Negative points here.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:13 am Falcon town
Syn mafia
Essoa town
Poison mafia
Tutu town
Mac town
Alison mafia

There you go these are my reads today
Nanook called me mafia. I wanna cry.

Not a fan of this gut wise.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:26 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:50 am Your entrance was kinda awkward and scummy so Mac had to bury you ASAP or it would be noticeable that he wasn't jumping on you, but he didn't want to commit fully to it so he put a scumread on nanook in the same post as an alternative target to attack. Since then, you've had some weird-ass interactions that look a lot like teammates distancing: #42, #68 for example. Your constant poking at me about Mac and about you + Mac as a team tend to affirm my view on that front as well.
Hmm... Null Alison.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:04 am #70 is another post that looks W/W with Mac but I forgot to add it into my post. I'm trying not to bias too much since I assume Esooa is going to tend to gravitate towards the players that she knows best regardless, but I do think that when all is said and done they look like they're wolves together. I expect town Mac to bury Esooa way harder and more decisively with an opening like that (both from her and from him), and I think he might be hesitating because she's actually his teammate.

linki: Yes, I think if Mac is your partner he always distances from you there. He knows me well enough to know I'll scumread you, and Falcon (who's a bit of an attack dog that doesn't let go once he sinks his teeth in) has already expressed displeasure with your entrance. He doesn't really have a choice there, all he can do is soften the blow by adding nanook as an alternative scumread and not going after you as hard.
Town Alison (?)

This progression is a bit weird could be W/W

Looked at Wilgy not a lot, he does come in with a very different swing on Alison reading her as mafia and he keeps that up could be distancing doesn't seem to have almost any interaction with Marmot which is meh. Wilgy entire read for me is based around Alison/Marmot flip right now I'd say.

His docter claim is meh so I'm ignoring that for the time.

marmot hasn't done much this game, a bit of hunting sure but not alot. So he's a null for me.

He does keep calling me out a bit, which i'm not a fan of. However, the days of sig getting easily mislynched are gone (maybe) so could this be a potential scape goat or what?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:30 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:14 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Suddenly feel afraid that marmot could be mafia and i not only defended syn d1 but i also doc claimed another mafia and got pressure off of him

Falcon, wilgy says that as his first post every game. Im afraid to openly PR hunt as town anymore. U know im starting to think that might not be very pro-town

Who u think is mafia falcon?
Alison, Marmot, Ted, Long Con, Dr Wilgy are all in my scum list ATM

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 pm I'm here and def still think Alison is scum

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:54 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Dr Wilgy] aubergine

Three major posts from Falcon that has his major reads on top of this he called out Alison 4 times and really only ever pushed her.

NKA are a big thing I like too do, I think they're way underutilized here on TS and have multiple times lead me to find scum. SO based off the highlights from Falcon the POS is
Wilgy, Marmot, Alison, and Ted

Wilgy and Alison both got votes from Falcon and Alison was his major scum read.

Based off this alone Alison is looking like the best lynch followed by Wilgy.

And I feel like @Syn spends more time in this thread then most of us tbh.

I don't know if I should take Wilgy seriously

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:00 pm [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

lol Love this.

I don't trust anyone on the Alison wagon though

However. The question does arise then what does he gain from claiming right now being the last claim chances are he'd get lynched first.

Honestly I think moving forward the best bet would be for the doctors to protect likely civs aka me to force the mafia to shoot a doctor or not have a night kill that'll self resolve thjs

I could see Wilgy pulling off a ballsy move as a mafia member like this i seem to recall he wants self shot a teammate.

Anyone here familiar enough with our original two doctor claim contenders to say if they'd lie about it as mafia

Oof so

Is it more likely that marmot/wilgy has teammate potential than Alison and either of them?

If so I'm wondering if it may be more logical to take one of them out first.

Jk don't LC me

I'm actually the doctor

I also don't see why she just willingly accepted LC wasn't the doctor with tuutuu, like the whiplash in her esooa read was extreme.

Though Alison does look pretty bad from this, Syn waffles just enough on her that had she flipped she'd have been fine.

I don't like the direction of this investigation Marmot, I order you to cease and desist immediately

I do plan to like put in some work this phase and iso everyone. God help us all is all that it's now up to the guy who hasn't seriously played mafia in like a year to like actually do work and help catch scum.

Did alot of people vote without giving any reasoning or dropping it in the thread or what?

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Risk wasting a day just based off that*

Alison, Marmot, or wilgy is really the pov at this point.

Ted still has some good will from his d1 vote. He could be deep wolfing. But, I'd rather not risk another wasted day on that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:53 am Still cant believe LC was town and did that shit

I can see it, more of an old school move.

Okay sweet, I should make kt a habit to catch up on the thread before posting but meh.

I still think next phase we need to look at Alison which is a reverse of what I was previously saying, since in hindsight I don't like her progression on lynching herself ect.

Never mind I see why people think i should be derp cleared this also explains the LC thing. B

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:32 pm Sig can't you just like, read the posts that were put in the night chat lol I hate all of this people asking stuff that's in thread to be explained

If this is in regard to my Allison question then no. Since quite honestly nobody was giving good reasoning and being dumb about it. Also there's no reason why people can't just give reasoning again, it helps catch scum who don't pay attention.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:40 am Why is sig derpcleared, and is it something we can talk about?

I don't think I am? Just not caught up all the way yet.

Having said that dont lynch me pls k thx promise I'm a civ.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:40 am Why is sig derpcleared, and is it something we can talk about?

I don't think I am? Just not caught up all the way yet.

Well how did that happen, I'll probably read up on the second half of the day. Work was crazy yesterday so didn't have any free time to pop in.

Actually Alison last few posts are pinging me, kinda reminds me of my scum game how she's pivoted now away from trying to be lynched.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:26 pm
! Message from: Alison
sig wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:25 pm @Alison what happened to your conviction on Essua.
She's mech confirmed town unless a third player claims doc dude. It doesn't matter how suspicious i thought she was before if she can prove she's PR.

.....

I'm very salty at everyone here right now very very salty.

Esooa* rip my spelling skills this game

@Alison what happened to your conviction on Essua.

I want everyone to explain to me their logic for the Allison vote. She literally started saying we should lynch her before she got any attention correct? Even without this the original scum strategy doesn't make sense. Though now I see she's trying to save herself so maybe I'm missing something and need to reevaluate

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:36 pm Yo @sig, talk to me about your reads. You're voting for me and LC. LC is also voting for me. Do you think we're scummates?

I'm literally voting for whatever the counter wagon to Alison may be, LC was my other big scum lean. I see he claimed so I'll be moving my vote from there.

I'd much prefer to lynch tuutuu. She tried to save syn. She was one of the people Mac was going after and she's contributing to this Allison/esuaa nonsense

Also I do have some stuff to say on the whole nova modkill, but that can wait until end game.

LC and Marmot are my votes

Alison/essoa is the most classic example of v/v imo. The fact Allison is willing to kamikaze herself means she's not mafia, especially given that mafia don't have a flip civ role, can't recall the name of it right now. Essoa isn't mafia for her actions last phase, if she is meh we can deal with it later. This is just gonna waste 1 to 2 phases and with nova no longer with us we can't really waste time.

I dont think Alison is mafia i think going this route is dumb.

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