The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:40 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:33 pm Strongly disagree with #1282. My stance is that if you aren't prepared to be suspected of being mafia you shouldn't play mafia. I've had games where I fucked up D1 and said something stupid, and was under pressure and called outed scum the whole game and I was fine with that because that's just mafia. I don't flex my reads. Everyone who's hydra'd with me in the hydra season games knows that I frequently manipulate the projected confidence I have in my reads because it furthers my win condition. Yes sometimes it backfires but for every time it backfires it creates good outcomes ten other times.

I play "arrogantly" because that's what works. It's not about being arrogant IRL or genuinely thinking I'm a god at mafia or whatever. I play as though my reads are correct because I think it's optimal. I've argued before on discord why it's GTO to exaggerate the confidence levels in early reads as well. I'm sorry you dislike playing against it, but I think this approach creates good results and we've seen a ton of town games won in the Syndicate because of players acting like this. Not just me but a wide variety of players who push their scumreads the way I did this game.

Have you tried to consider the worth of your strategy in terms other than whether they help you win the game?

I select strategies for games based on how much they help me fulfil my win condition. To do otherwise would be to fail to play to my win condition for external reasons (how embarassed I am if my strategy loses the game for town, how frustrated the other person gets, etc.), which I don't believe in when playing mafia.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:33 pm Strongly disagree with #1282. My stance is that if you aren't prepared to be suspected of being mafia you shouldn't play mafia. I've had games where I fucked up D1 and said something stupid, and was under pressure and called outed scum the whole game and I was fine with that because that's just mafia. I don't flex my reads. Everyone who's hydra'd with me in the hydra season games knows that I frequently manipulate the projected confidence I have in my reads because it furthers my win condition. Yes sometimes it backfires but for every time it backfires it creates good outcomes ten other times.

I play "arrogantly" because that's what works. It's not about being arrogant IRL or genuinely thinking I'm a god at mafia or whatever. I play as though my reads are correct because I think it's optimal. I've argued before on discord why it's GTO to exaggerate the confidence levels in early reads as well. I'm sorry you dislike playing against it, but I think this approach creates good results and we've seen a ton of town games won in the Syndicate because of players acting like this. Not just me but a wide variety of players who push their scumreads the way I did this game.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:49 am The really sad part is that this isn't even the first doctor getting themselves modkilled out of tilt at being suspected by town after a mafia member successfully faked being doctor and counterclaimed them in endgame I've heard of this year. Thank god I wasn't a part of that second one, but I heard about it.