WELL, if one single player had been slightly more devious and risky, saving a protect while saying they used it...TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:51 pmwellLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:50 pmnutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:48 pmyeah...... oopsDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:45 pm I never thought Mac would last to the endgame after what happened to him Day 1.
In fact, to the whole scumteam. They were the top 4 scumspects day 1. Then after that... nutella let two of them off the hook, just like that.
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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:48 pmyeah...... oopsDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:45 pm I never thought Mac would last to the endgame after what happened to him Day 1.
In fact, to the whole scumteam. They were the top 4 scumspects day 1. Then after that... nutella let two of them off the hook, just like that.
sorry friends
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The night I died, I was defending myself. Then dunya went on a huge rant against me and I felt the suspicion level was high enough to justify... sigh... re-sending the action as do nothing.
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Do you think you would have ended up shooting Mac today?
- Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:39 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
If this year's Syndicate Champs game takes roles from different games, the town doctor should be a Bunker.
- Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:11 pm
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- Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:16 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
DammitMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:15 pmthat was the other game lol
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
But that's when your potato pass ends.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:09 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
What did you think of my criticism of that plan, re: Rogue Elements and Alien Risk Assessment?protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:07 pmShooting into Nutella night 2 protectors. Dizzy TSP Dunya Proto.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:08 pm
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You'd be surprised. That's half my strategy in most games.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:54 pm I don't think me repeating "I'm town don't shoot me" would/should away Nutella.
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proto, why would nutella shoot you again? Explain it to me in a sentence.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:26 pm
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I mean, what I really believe, is that Epignosis didn't waste one of his valuable protects on Night 1. Him saying it was enough, I hope that I'm right, because that would be awesome... we'll find out after the game. I mean, it should be a big part of the game, claiming one thing in the thread, and doing another, to mess with the Aliens. I get that there's a Bunker Plan that everyone should follow, but that doesn't preclude the temptation to become a rogue element in order to gain advantage later in the game.
Is the plan to kill a specific three players in order really that solid? Does it consider rogue elements and the risk calculations that may be happening in the Alien camp?
Is the plan to kill a specific three players in order really that solid? Does it consider rogue elements and the risk calculations that may be happening in the Alien camp?
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:18 pm
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I want to make sure I understand the reasoning behind why it has to be you three. Why couldn't any given wolfteam decide to go for the Gusto and hope that some bunkers will save their protect, believing no one would dare attack Nutella with our awesome plan. It has occurred to me to do such a deceptive thing in order to save protects for later.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:27 am
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Most of my creativity goes into evil plans. Or in proposing evil plans the scum team might be employing. I'm heavily into risky gambits, which is why I see the advantage of you putting yourself out there as the laser kill: no Alien would EVER do that, right? I don't think nutella is considering shooting you. Which is exactly where an Alien wants to be.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:16 amGoogle failed for TWTBW.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:08 amI'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:59 amnot disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:48 amI don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:44 ammafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 am no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella
i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!
Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.
The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.
Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?
I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.
any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?
Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.
I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.
My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.
If I an alien, I dont push for this plan because I die. I can push other plans. I feel townread enough, I can push any agenda. I dont need to push one where I die. Just my take on the game.
I was not saying I believe you believe in advantage in keeping POE wide, was just asking for you to spitball since you were online.
Also did some mild digging and saw you are an artist, which is cool, and means I should expect creative things from you.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:16 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
It's not "gg", nutella.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:11 amyeah you got me goodnutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:10 am...this reads like a concession lmaodunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:04 amoh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:00 amwell, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:56 amoh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:46 amso same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.
yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:15 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
the only logical thing to *do
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:14 am
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Yeah, trying to get saves wasted on nutella doesn't work with the idea of shooting nutella. If dunya wanted to lure bunker saves, then the only logical thing to so is shoot some townfolk, not hit up a super-protected nutella. And I don't believe that Alien holstering is a reality in any universe.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 amI think I get what she is saying.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:07 am....wait whatdunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 am no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella
i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!
first of all why do you keep saying you know proto is town
I have to think about this more
but it could still just be you and tsp
I know I am town, its mod confirmed dizzy is town, mafia knows dizzy's and my own alignment, therefore mafia know there are 2 saves on Nutella.
The case has logic.
The reason why I still want to kill Dunya anyway is while her trap of not confirming the save in the night can be viewed towny (as a trap), it can also be viewed scummy if you think it may have been intended to cause paranoid town who were not requested to save, to expend bunker saves onto Nutella. This does kind of push into the world where aliens intentionally dump KP into Nutella though, so it doesnt necessarily have to be a team that includes Dunya.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:08 am
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I'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:59 amnot disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:48 amI don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:44 ammafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 am no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella
i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!
Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.
The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.
Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?
I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.
any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?
Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.
I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.
My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:02 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
That's very disappointing.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:48 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:44 ammafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)dunya wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 am no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella
i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!
Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.
The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
But I did speak up in his defense.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
How many protects a given player has left will inform alien kills.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:05 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.
I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.
I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:49 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
No, all just genuine gameplay.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:34 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
That was a weird post. Some sort of mood.
My reaction to rej protecting Epi was to townread him because he did what I did. Town mindmeld? So I thought.
My reaction to rej protecting Epi was to townread him because he did what I did. Town mindmeld? So I thought.
- Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:45 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
This dunya connection idea is not right. I really did protect you.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:08 amI don't believe you.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:33 amOk, sorry... I mean, everyone is asking everyone to reveal what they did last night, and I just got caught up and shared my non-action. I didn't get it because I'm, like, one of the only players who hadn't reveled it yet, and you didn't make the joke on any of them. I thought it was personally directed at me, wasn't sure if it was Rej-related shade. Or psychic vision, since...
Spoiler: show
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:29 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
No, I protected Epi on Night 1.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:12 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 3]
I've never protected nutella. For the record.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:20 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I would be happy to see a proto in any game here. I have been enjoying the style.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:26 pmhavent noticed any bitching from anyone. Its all part of the game to me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:17 pmI know I've been bitching about Proto, but same tbh. Even if I'm confused by play styles, I enjoy different ones, and there's always something to learn.
I enjoy playing with everyone and I think sometimes people get more upset by things I post more than I intend them to. Its not intended to upset you at all, i just put my thoughts out. I probably should work on a filter or something but it hasnt worked my entire life, so while I can try, results may vary.
My forum mafia experience has been 10/10 so far.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:36 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I like your new theory Tony, except for the part where I get shoehorned in. But I get it.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 1]
Tutuu did, which also raised some alarms about epignosis.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:52 pmwho specifically has set off clear alien alarm bells and why.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:02 pmIn general. I just accept that everyone judges things in different ways, until something sets off alarm bells. You specifically as well, because I have never played with you before, so I don't know how you usually play, or if these townreads are unusual for you.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:51 pmMe specifically or in general?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:43 pmI feel like I see half the players in any given game slamming down hard Town reads all the time, starting on Day Zero. You committing to hard Town reads that I don't understand doesn't phase me like you seemed to think it would. Maybe it's the environment here.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:29 pmI have been hard defending people I don't need to. It should look scummy to town. It's weird people townread me so strongly.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:19 pmWhy?protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:15 pmThe more you are suspicious of me the more I will townread you. No sarcasm.
Also do you think Rej will claim a protect on Epi if Epi was their teammate? And if you're answer to this is going to be "wifom" then I think the convo will stop there.
I tried to deflect a shot away from Rej.
I am hard defending Nanook, Alison, carotenoid.
If there is a person with high partner equity it's me.
Re save on to epi? Don't know. If I was in alien chat I would have suggested they don't claim a save at all.
I would be suspicious of someone giving hard townreads that I don't think the person making them believes in.
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I believe he found 19 instances of "Epi" in a single post of yours, but I don't really care.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:38 pmBefore I dissect all of it, do you agree with all of his analysis or only parts? Any parts you disagree with?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:35 pmRight, he did, didn't he?
I think this one: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 86#p619986protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:22 pmWhich analysis in particular.
I didn't like any of it but I have tmi because I know my own alignment.
I don't agree that you would protect Hally because you found her "lock town", but I do see how she would be a likely kill for you due to it.
I see him critical of you calling Alison "hard town", which takes on a different flavour when I consider our conversation a couple of hours ago.
I get very critical of you when he compares your treatment of me versus the treatment of the Soneji and rej. This was a powerful part, I thought.
Some more analysis of you and Soneji in the bottom of the second spoiler is very teammate-like.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:35 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
Right, he did, didn't he?
I think this one: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 86#p619986protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:22 pmWhich analysis in particular.
I didn't like any of it but I have tmi because I know my own alignment.
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I feel like proto is town, but I'm also a big fan of Epi's analysis. All in all, I'm glad it's nutella's call and not mine.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:06 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
What did you think of Epignosis' analysis of Soneji and rej interactions? proto looks like a teammate in them; am I allowing myself to be swayed by biased conclusions by Epi?dunya wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:57 pm i do believe you believe them your reasons for townreading someone, even though those reasons don't click with me. like, the same reasons you give may mean something else with me. i also put a lot of weight in how someone looks with both dead aliens, how sloneji and rej treated them and how they treated the aliens. your suspicion or defences don't come across as TMI but authentic.
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 2]
protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:02 pmAre you allowed to bet a cat?dunya wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:00 amepi- scum epi doesn't get so opinionated and fixated on bad reads. he's in TMI land and will make reads that are more easy to push. going after me and you--not easy. why would he not instead make fake cases on people we are more easily to suspect? tunnelling a brand new player to our website from day 0--not epi behavior. plus, he's basically oozing town and i will bet my cat on it. if i lose to him this game, i'm more than ok with that. i don't agree with a lot of his reads, i mean, i think he's very wrong about me and you, but i'm okay with that.protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:29 pm @dunya
Can you explain your day/night progression of yours reads on below players? Ideally with some blurb for me to follow as to why.
Epi
Tony
Longcon
I just did an iso on you. Reason I cant read you is you make a lot of short posts and ask a lot of questions, but havent seen any walls of text for me to get any sense of where your head is at. Not everyone is a wall of text kind of person, but it would help me a lot to determine your alignment if you explain your read progression on these 3 players.
tony- i waffle on tony tbh. but he makes some posts that just seem so authentically coming from a townie mindset that i wanna lock town him. his game mechanic solving has seemed as authentic as nanook's... i guess i felt a little less confident with him sort of disappearing, but it doesn't change his iso looking townie. we just finished playing a game together where he was in LyLo with LC and Epi. i knew he was town there, and i believe he's town here. there's a lot of overlap in behavior.
lc- i dunno. my weakest town read is on lc out of these three, but i iso'd them and like, didn't feel any negative energy from their posts. seem really authentic and in a setup like this, i feel like LC woulda been stronger at bussing. that's speculative but idk, i just don't think they're in my poe now.
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 1]
In general. I just accept that everyone judges things in different ways, until something sets off alarm bells. You specifically as well, because I have never played with you before, so I don't know how you usually play, or if these townreads are unusual for you.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:51 pmMe specifically or in general?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:43 pmI feel like I see half the players in any given game slamming down hard Town reads all the time, starting on Day Zero. You committing to hard Town reads that I don't understand doesn't phase me like you seemed to think it would. Maybe it's the environment here.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:29 pmI have been hard defending people I don't need to. It should look scummy to town. It's weird people townread me so strongly.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:19 pmWhy?protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:15 pmThe more you are suspicious of me the more I will townread you. No sarcasm.
Also do you think Rej will claim a protect on Epi if Epi was their teammate? And if you're answer to this is going to be "wifom" then I think the convo will stop there.
I tried to deflect a shot away from Rej.
I am hard defending Nanook, Alison, carotenoid.
If there is a person with high partner equity it's me.
Re save on to epi? Don't know. If I was in alien chat I would have suggested they don't claim a save at all.
I would be suspicious of someone giving hard townreads that I don't think the person making them believes in.
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
*faze sorry, voice to text
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:43 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 1]
I feel like I see half the players in any given game slamming down hard Town reads all the time, starting on Day Zero. You committing to hard Town reads that I don't understand doesn't phase me like you seemed to think it would. Maybe it's the environment here.protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:29 pmI have been hard defending people I don't need to. It should look scummy to town. It's weird people townread me so strongly.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:19 pmWhy?protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:15 pmThe more you are suspicious of me the more I will townread you. No sarcasm.
Also do you think Rej will claim a protect on Epi if Epi was their teammate? And if you're answer to this is going to be "wifom" then I think the convo will stop there.
I tried to deflect a shot away from Rej.
I am hard defending Nanook, Alison, carotenoid.
If there is a person with high partner equity it's me.
Re save on to epi? Don't know. If I was in alien chat I would have suggested they don't claim a save at all.
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:44 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
no, they didn't know each other
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:33 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
*revealed
- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:33 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
Ok, sorry... I mean, everyone is asking everyone to reveal what they did last night, and I just got caught up and shared my non-action. I didn't get it because I'm, like, one of the only players who hadn't reveled it yet, and you didn't make the joke on any of them. I thought it was personally directed at me, wasn't sure if it was Rej-related shade. Or psychic vision, since...
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- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:20 am
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- Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:10 am
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I did not use my protect last night.
- Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:28 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I would not be likely to intentionally forego two kills. Maybe if our most townread people were really sadistic and just want to see us kill ourselves.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:26 pm There is technically a fourth option, that both aliens are in the middle area between townread and POE and need to keep that grouping as large as possible so they buried both KP, but like....I don’t think that’s a super likely thing to happen cause even if both aliens were in that grouping, I’m not sure how many if any of the people in this game even think in those terms/would sacrifice both KP. So yeah, technically a possibility, I’m kinda tossing it out of consideration for now tho.
- Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:27 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
I think I know! But I can't say it to know if it's the same one you know.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:24 pm You see as in...you acknowledge what I’m saying...or as in you see a potential third option? Don’t talk about what the option is if you see it tho lol
- Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:18 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 3]
Nice night! I haven't been home all day, can I skip reading the night phase?
- Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:37 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Night 2]
Aw, I can't stay mad at you, bro!Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:34 pmUh, that was me.protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:30 pm I'm not worth the saves. Nobody is worth the saves unless Nutella gives a pool of people she is never shooting all game.
I still think some people might be able to get cleared off the flip on Rej. Like Hally if they were still alive. I think they had Rej and Soneji as partners but memory might be wrong.
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- Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:34 pm
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Re: Space Invaders [Day 2]
I believe that two shots is the max that any number of Aliens could have done on an even night.
If four people use their bunker protects to save themselves, then that is equal to one Alien kill of a full Bunker, with regards to the number of protections left for nutella. Then if the Aliens get a kill, that's more shots lost. Doesn't seem like much right now, but in two days, if nutella misses the next two laser shots, we could end up with people running low. Then we'll have to rely on bluffing? Not ideal.protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:22 pmImpossible to save everyone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:58 pm alright. @Alison I'm removing you from the pool to save me, feel free to save someone else instead.
I really think we have few enough nights left that it'd honestly be fine for everyone to save someone tonight lol. Maybe we even assign them all out loud and it could work out that actually nobody could die?? Hmmm
Seriously I'm not mathing this out so if what I'm saying is bullshit lmk
You would be putting 4 players into guaranteed death assuming 4 saves on you (which is what I think you need). Of those 4, 2 would remain alive who you could assign high mafia equity. The cost is an additional 5 bunker saves.
That's almost 2 laser shots.
I still agree with Nanook that never worth to save anyone not Nutella when there are this many players still in the game.
Potential errors in my model - feel free to poke holes etc
When will the Aliens start to assume we're bluffing about the level of protection on nutella? Will they ever risk a shot on her? What if their strategy is to ignore nutella and win the old-fashioned way? Having the first two shots going off Ripley-style really puts a crimp in any plan like that.
If no one protects themselves, we will lose two bunkers tonight. If people protect themselves, we really could end up losing two bunkers anyway.