The Syndicate

cobbler wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:15 pm hey gang - sorry i disappeared. life stuff. i hope it didn't impact the game too much. i had fun even though i very quickly got overwhelmed by the volume. when i have the time in the future, i'd be happy to play here again if you'll have me. from what i can tell, you're good people

sorry mods

nice work, scummers

I would absolutely be happy to play with you again!

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:05 pm @Carotenoid when you vanished i had a heart beat who said is bad to see you as villager.

Gg ^^

haha, I was trying to somehow reinforce the mutual scumread M Plus 7 and you had on each other but you were both so wholesomely finding each other I kinda just went with it

You really did well considering your position... I kept trying to figure you out, hehe.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:00 pm Thanks @dunya & @juliets for hosting and getting me to play! It was a short, but a fun and intense experience!

@Dyslexicon @1612 @cobbler @tedxtr You guys were terrific! Subbing in this slot was like a piece of candy. Thanks for being cool partners! 1612 you did really great for your first forum game, I hope you'll be proud of this game even if you prefer to be town!

@M Plus 7 It was really fun playing with you, let's definitely try to play a whole game together at some point!

@Michelle I wanna play more in English with you to see how it goes!

I would love that so much!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:18 pm Yep, that looks about right. 1 deep wolf and the person who was replaced twice. Thanks for the game!

Thanks for trying, speed, it was really appreciated!

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:21 am @Michelle I don't understand where your reads or your game view is coming from? You seem to suspect me as scum, but why? Because "I have no scum range" which is so absolutely not true.

I'd say is true though...

Hahaha, these quotes are so great to look at now.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:07 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:03 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:01 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

i wanted so much for this game to finish so thanks.

Everything was off.

Hey, at least I found you even if it was too late, hehe.

i found you too, as you noticed my tone changed.
Morale is: never trust Ted, lynch him when he doesn't play tbh

That was a nice moment. I hope we can find each other earlier next time!

I've never really gotten to play with Ted!

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:01 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

i wanted so much for this game to finish so thanks.

Everything was off.

Hey, at least I found you even if it was too late, hehe.

Lavender wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:41 pm yooooooooo gg everybody

well played, @1612 @Carotenoid @cobbler @tedxtr @Dyslexicon. i guess my tunnel on mp7 clouded my judgement. i took @Urist's tinfoil theory too far lol

sorry for misreading u, @Michelle

sorry about misreading u as well, @M Plus 7. as you can probably tell, i'm used to having a "guilty until proven innocent" mindset with people. i think that mindset works better in shorter games. i think it made me a little manic this game. will definitely try to be more diplomatic next time ✌

i should have trusted my gut on 1612. if i hadn't been so sure mp7 was gf i would have seen that world more easily, i think

it was an honor to play with u all. i had a lot of fun, lost a lot of sleep, and i'll definitely be back for more some time. thanks for a great game everybody

[mention]Lavender[/mention]

It's totally okay, I understand! There were a lot of crossed wires this game, haha. Hope to play with you again!

1612 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:35 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:22 pm There are so many players I met this game that I would love to play with again. Let’s try to make that happen!

y'all are the nicest (more importantly respectful) players ive seen in mafia games. will definitely stick around to play a few more

Yay! I'm so glad to hear it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:27 pm I'm bossy in scum chat lol. I love that for me. =p

That doesn't surprise me, hehe.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:14 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm i love u too

but your actions must have consequences.

Please tell me we're playing every other game ever together.

ily mp7

did u join the ambidals zoo game? ill be playing there as well as macdougall's game

I'm in both (probably against the better judgment of my schedule, but whatever, right?), so yay!

Looking forward to playing with you both again as well. I agree that we should find each other as town next time. :P

Yay! That'd be awesome, let's do it.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm i love u too

but your actions must have consequences.

Please tell me we're playing every other game ever together.

ily mp7

did u join the ambidals zoo game? ill be playing there as well as macdougall's game

I'm in both (probably against the better judgment of my schedule, but whatever, right?), so yay!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:07 pm Dizzy, I swear next time we better both we the same alignment or I will lose it.

I agree. It was a burden tbh. Scum team next time?

Every time someone kept mentioning me and you tinfoil team, I was thinking, if only...

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm My favorite quote is this:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:28 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:24 pm Mmk i'm gonna go with
Protocultures
M plus 7
Jeraldooo
Michelle
Lavender
Alison
1612
Dizzy
Cobbler
Reasons may or may not come, i'll try for tomorrow

This is from scummiest to towniest, right? o.o

linki

When I was in a position to unironically be shocked the three scum could possibly not be the three towniest.

Okay, this one is really funny.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm i love u too

but your actions must have consequences.

Please tell me we're playing every other game ever together.

Dizzy, I swear next time we better both we the same alignment or I will lose it.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:53 pm I am 100% open to criticism btw, if anyone wants to vent to/at/on me. I'm well aware I played like ass this game.

I'm glad my prophecy about 1612 being the only scum on Nanook's wagon came true, although that might have been the only thing I was right on.

And of course, thanks to @dunya and @juliets for hosting!

It's really okay, it was a rough game. I don't think anyone deserves any blame.

I enjoyed playing with you for whatever it's worth; I feel like if we could find each other as town we'd be rather complementary.

I approve of the finding quotes that are much funnier in retrospect endeavor.

There are so many players I met this game that I would love to play with again. Let’s try to make that happen!

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:05 pm GG mafia, you played well. Town was a total mess and you took advantage of it. Special mention to Dizzy for openwolfing with his votes at deadline, dunno why we let you get away with that.

There was a lot of playstyle and culture clash, which as fun as it is to play with other players, and I think contributed to that.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 pm Thanks for giving me time to get my feet wet -.-

You were saved from the misery.

Thanks for hosting dunya and juliets, really, I’m glad the timing worked out.

I’m just really tired of losing games like this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:51 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pmIt’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.

I just try to copy my town meta when I rand scum, and I do my very best, or else the game would be no fun. Seems I only rand scum if you're in the game and have randed town. That is so unfair. I genuinely would be so happy to be town with you. But alas, maybe in a couple of years. Rip.

It’s alright, it’ll happen someday. You played well.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:45 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.

Cursed univers confirmed. =(

It’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.

Whatever, it’s over now. Either after Proto was modkilled or the Lavender yeet was the pivotal moment where we lost this game, pick one I guess.

I still had tons of fun playing with you all, even if I’m rather upset at the moment.

I thought Michelle was obvious town after my spat with her. I don’t understand why that happened. I’m not happy.

I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.

Carote, I'll get back to you on some of that when I can have a fresh morning gal perspective too, I'm perhaps too tired to do it now. I appreciate you engaging me.

Have a great night, everyone. I hope we can still win. I think we can! I'm trying to be optimistic about it anyway.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:37 am

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:18 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.

Make me do it and i will.

Trust me, I would love to.

we have time. I will not vote. Go to sleep and we will continue after.
Tell me in how much time you will be here again pls.

Thank you.

When is a good time for you? I was thinking I'll try my best to be here no later than... 10.5 hours from now? Is that early enough?

this is perfect, is a good hour for me. Sleep well !

That is awesome, thanks so much for coordinating with me. I appreciate your efforts, and I'm sorry for the miscommunication if you ever thought I was implying or saying otherwise.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:36 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:24 am Addendum:

The reason that final post would make me feel like shit is that Dizzy and I have known each other for a decent while now, have never rolled town together in any game, and after all this time for me to have said everything I had to him and then make a post like that? I would feel like an asshole.

There is a possibility for you to not do some things as scum because you feel them dishonorable?

This is more rethorical because, alas, mafia is a lying game

You know, it's hard to say. I'd like to think I don't do anything as town that I wouldn't feel comfortable doing as wolf, theoretically, because otherwise then I shouldn't be doing those things as town, you know?

But I do think as town my tendency to say literally whatever is on my mind is a thing, whereas when I'm wolfing I'm inevitably crafting what I want to say for agenda purposes, so I think that's where this comes into play. I'd need to pocket Dizzy if he were town and I were wolf, but I wouldn't need to make a post like that to do that, so why would I? Whereas town I just thought it and it came out. I hope that makes sense.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:18 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.

Make me do it and i will.

Trust me, I would love to.

we have time. I will not vote. Go to sleep and we will continue after.
Tell me in how much time you will be here again pls.

Thank you.

When is a good time for you? I was thinking I'll try my best to be here no later than... 10.5 hours from now? Is that early enough?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:17 am @Michelle @M Plus 7 @Urist What's your read of speedchuck?

Let me try to read him again. I'm a bit torn right now. Some of his posts have read like he genuinely feels like a low hanging fruit replacement townie trying to make sure we don't misyeet him, but I'm not sure how I feel about his solving so far. His Lavender ISO was sort of weird, without any connotations intended; I am unsure if he had TMI or not now, upon reflection.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:16 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am
You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted.

I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.

I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264

Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.

cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not

I'm not lying.

What do you mean by the second thing?

Then you honestly think i was happy with any lynch? Can you read my Iso? It's short.

The second is the paranoid thought that scum always insert hidden excuses for suspecting villagers and come back after mislynch to those posts.

I do apologize, I think we've been talking past each other pretty badly, and it takes two, so I realize I could have stepped away and tried to better understand you throughout the game, not just now. And that's on me.

I promise you that I'll take another look at your ISO and try to come to a fresh determination, at least as much of one as I can.

Oh, re: the second thing, I see what you're saying now. That's an understandable interpretation. I'd say I prefer for everyone to know where my reads are at due to transparency's sake, so I was trying to clarify that my reads on you and cobbler were less confident than my others, if that makes sense.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:15 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:07 am

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am If I'm town, Urist is town, and Michelle is town, then that leaves Dizzy/Carote/speed/1612.

Aside of greencheck, why would Urist be town?

I honestly don't know. I wanted to yeet him Day 1.

He has displayed various emotions that seemed rather genuine at the time of them being made, i.e., dejection. I guess that's what I'd say as being points in his favor.

Otherwise, I'd have to actually go back and try to look at the body of work again, but... trying not to prioritize that right now since it may be very likely moot.

hmn okay
I agree that voting him today is not a good mechanical play but argh I wouldn't hate it if you could try to sort him because my tinfoil voice still exists

Ahhhh, I feel you. I mean, if he is a wolf here, then that does make the position more difficult even if we don't vote for him because that means the pool of available players to vote is more likely town than wolf. I'll have to see.

With that said, that's all speculative. I really don't know how I would have behaved here if I were a wolf... since that changes so many things. It is possible I may have made a post like that. But that's my best answer I can think of.

Addendum:

The reason that final post would make me feel like shit is that Dizzy and I have known each other for a decent while now, have never rolled town together in any game, and after all this time for me to have said everything I had to him and then make a post like that? I would feel like an asshole.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:10 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:55 am I didn't ignore you on purpose! Christ.

M7 you made me read you lock villager in the other game. You didn't have much time to find me villager then but you were night killed and i had to show i am green in a tiresome fight with scum.
I was wrong this game until now about Alison and Lavender. If i am wrong about you, can you explain me what makes you villager? An 'eureka' moment/moments you think there exists that shows your colours fypov.

Let me think about this.

[mention]Michelle[/mention]

I appreciate you asking. This kind of question is difficult to answer... I am pretty self-aware, which would indicate that I should know this well, but it also means that theoretically I *should* be able to replicate various town tells that I have as a wolf more easily.

I'm not entirely sure what my exact wolf range is anymore, because since my return to mafia this year I've not yet rolled it. With that said, I think there are a few things I've done this game that would have been pretty difficult for me to replicate.

- Specifically, when I'm town... because I don't have information, I have a sense of re-assessment that is coupled with collective thread tunnel vision that is tough for me to project as a wolf. When I'm town, I can have a tendency to go manic on a specific direction and then reverse course and then go somewhere else, and at the end land somewhere in which I don't feel as much conviction because I think, well, maybe everyone else is seeing something that I'm not seeing, you know? That's essentially what happened D3 with Lavender. I spent a good portion of the day exploring why his strategy to convincingly scum case me and you made little to no sense if he was wolfing, tried to convince everyone of that, and then proceeded to talk myself out of it. I have a hard time replicating that exact progression when I'm a wolf, my solving is more... static, inevitably, because I have information.

- Emotions are also a thing. I can fake my tone and emotions pretty well, but as an incredibly emotional person, there are genuine things that I feel as town that I just cannot fake quite right when I'm wolfing. They land sort of with a sour note, like I can't quite get the tone right. Like when I try to cheerlead people as a wolf sometimes it comes across like a weird hybrid, a more disappointed mom sort of thing, because I'm detached from the action at the end of the day despite how townie I'm trying to seem. In contrast, when I'm town, I am usually one of two general things, bouncy or tilted -- that's incredibly reductive, but.

There is one other thing too, and that's that I have a sort of line I won't cross when it comes to manipulating other people's emotions, probably anyway. I think one particular post I made this game is one I probably would feel like shit about if I had made it and I were a wolf, so I probably wouldn't have said it. And that's this one:

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:55 pm Also if all of this mad chaotic solving right now doesn't clear me in the eyes of those who suspect me, then I'm going to need to have a chat with those players.

Why should it clear you? Genuine question

You think I'm faking all of this? Nah. If I'm wolf here I'd be much more complacent. I can style on any of you easily in FX. If I'm wolf here you've all lost already.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.

Make me do it and i will.

Trust me, I would love to.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:55 am I didn't ignore you on purpose! Christ.

M7 you made me read you lock villager in the other game. You didn't have much time to find me villager then but you were night killed and i had to show i am green in a tiresome fight with scum.
I was wrong this game until now about Alison and Lavender. If i am wrong about you, can you explain me what makes you villager? An 'eureka' moment/moments you think there exists that shows your colours fypov.

Let me think about this.

Honestly my read of Urist is pretty blah because it would be mechanically questionable to yeet him here.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am If I'm town, Urist is town, and Michelle is town, then that leaves Dizzy/Carote/speed/1612.

Aside of greencheck, why would Urist be town?

I honestly don't know. I wanted to yeet him Day 1.

He has displayed various emotions that seemed rather genuine at the time of them being made, i.e., dejection. I guess that's what I'd say as being points in his favor.

Otherwise, I'd have to actually go back and try to look at the body of work again, but... trying not to prioritize that right now since it may be very likely moot.

I would love to walk away because I'm feeling really tilted right now and I'm very sorry to everyone for that, but if I walk away and go to bed, it's possible I wake up to a game that we've lost.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am If I'm town, Urist is town, and Michelle is town, then that leaves Dizzy/Carote/speed/1612.

If Dizzy is also town, then the exact team is Carote/speed/1612. If we lose to that team because Michelle votes me, then uh.

Michelle get out of this tunnel please.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.

You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted.

I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.

I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264

Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.

cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not

I'm not lying.

What do you mean by the second thing?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:42 am

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 am Carote, can you talk to me more about your experience with Dizzy?

We were both town in Space Invader. I think that I mainly started to townread him when we picked up Alison's scumslip at the same time. Aside from that, we weren't really in the thread at the same time so since he had similar reads and that my main scumread had a bizarre read on him that wasn't w/w I felt comfortable not really interacting with him. We did interact during the sad EoD where he was horrifically pew pewed, I thought his frustration was super townie. He still got pew pewed. Argh these are bad memories

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am

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Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.

Are you Carotte? Ask me anything tbh

Yes! Are you town Michelle?

I appreciate this, thanks. You say his game is copy-pasted... what elements specifically are you seeing that are similar?

His early "giving reads like candy", the "game game game" kind of entrance, exhibiting frustration when he feels he's not understood

Cool, thanks, this helps. I'd agree those are all reasons Dizzy seems townie here fmpov as well.

If I'm town, Urist is town, and Michelle is town, then that leaves Dizzy/Carote/speed/1612.

Yeah, Michelle is town. This is townie. There's no way this is agenda.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:56 am Michelle is probably just town right now, there's no way she thinks this is her best way of getting her team the win.

Unless the scum team's agenda is to tilt me, and if that is the case, congratulations.