Nah it's okay Dis, we are all playing extremely coasty because we are not used to this format and to be honest, I don't think it's my cup of tea. But I'll try to do my best cause I don't like being a party pooper.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:39 pm Anyway, I should try to get in my work hours before day starts and I get sucked into the black hole again, provided I don't get the sweet relief of death.
I think I gave out my thoughts, but basically
Tutu - never yeet, always love
Scirrus - claim is legit and he seems town anyway
Cobbler - honestly, probably never yeet
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Michelle - town based off erect finger tell
Alison - probably just town tbh. I want to trust Tutu and M&N reasons, and I don't see why she would go out of her way to specifically clear me.
Urist - town because I just feel it and I haven't seen anything wrong from their posts. I could probably be fooled here. Still feel town even though I voted him.
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MP - I really want MP to be town. I don't think she's scummy really, but she's burned me before. That caps lock though, seemed so genuine.
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Proto - I have too many feelings about this read, but bottom line is that I read Proto easily as town last game despite not getting where he's coming from, cause he had clear town markers. I don't see the same markers here.
Lavender - kind of null, but in PoE. Probably someone I should iso actually
Jeraldo - not much to go on. Weird associative reads that seemed really random and drawn out of thin air. PoE.
1612 - only thing I remember is he town read Urist, which could be kind of convenient given the thread state if Urist is indeed town. If Urist is scum, I'd be more compelled to call them town as I don't know if a scummate comes in first thing and hard defends there. PoE.
^Literally, I think all my bottom reads are from Proto's community which makes me worried I have a huge bias for suspecting people with different styles or that I don't know, which actually I know I do. At the same time, I feel I have good enough reasons to town read or at least town lean other players. RNG is random, so wouldn't be surprised if at least two scum were in my bottom reads. Hopefully.
But I do want to say that the playstyle here (maybe it's just the most efficent meta) is to always form a town circle and vote of POE which ends up being coasters. So basically, anyone who talks a lot is automatic town? I don't know, the way I play especially when it is split 50/50 with traffic cops and coasters, I usually end up scum reading the people who I am used to playing with so making a town circle just based off who is being active seems a bit sus.
I don't know, is my gameplay flawed? Is it because you guys want to come to a consensus at least in the early game phase? The way I am looking at it, the people are forming town circles are asking for a pocket / pocketing.
Here are my opinions on an active player that hasn't been spotlighted on the discussion (based off logs that I may be reading too heavily into):
I really didn't like how M Plus 7 played around with his/her vote around Urist? I read Urist's quotes on the "wrong" wording which is why M plus 7 but after reading the context and reply, I don't think it was that much of content to focus on. It just seemed like you were playing with the Nanook vote and placing it on Urist vote.
BUT honestly, I really like this quote "I haven’t had the time or emotional energy to hop back into this yet, and also but I wanted to at least say before the Night is over that I think there has been fantastic levels of effort put into this and people working together and I’m so happy about that. I’ve really enjoyed this game and I hope to play more of it." which shows me that you are having fun and to me [ Having fun = Town ]. I think besides the weird on and off push on Urist with the vote, I think the logs have towny vibes.
Here are my reads on the players that I have played with (jearldoo, lavendar, protocultures)
Jeraldooo, like ive said previously, he usually coasts but I don't really blame him when he isn't really familiar with the forum format and neither am I. I am havign a lot of trouble getting some substantial reads from everyone. But I will say that he is more memey as town and plays it more casually, having fun when he is not mafia. But I feel like he definitly does need to give more content so I will ping him right here [mention]jeraldooo[/mention] since null reads in a game suck.
if you want something on Lavendar, I think he is the most unique player I have played with where both his town and mafia gameplay are so goofy. I think his quotes personally are town even though I've seen him give the wildest quotes in voice chat where it seems that only town can make that kind of stuff up but I do think he has been more game solving and contributing than jeraldoo.
And I will also read protocultures as scum because I have to give some context on how proto plays since I have played with him in many games and I have irl reads. I feel like I was pretty surprised by his votes and it felt extremely bw'y. I feel like his votes (Alison) had no substance and knowing the type of player he is, he votes only with direction. So his vote history coming from the background I know about his is odd. And to add to that, I think his onversation with tutu about accepting votes if he feels like he is scum read was totally a game of chicken and to throw off people on this forum who aren't familiar playing with him. Proto never suggests self voting and I would never expect him to suggest that especially in a forum game where it is a lot more competitive and there is always some time to make a change of mind like tutu suggested. With that said and how I don't like his reads on people (such as Urist or Alison). Especially alison, you may say that she is really good at mafia, but when there is EOD, what kind of mafia player doesn't push the split against the other person and instead try her best to give her legacy info. that was super town and I don't understand how you don't read that as town and still cast shade and doubt. You always cast shade on certain players even when they doing something very significant as town when you are mafia and I am seeing that right now.
So if I had to order the Town to Mafia reads for the other players:
Proto > Jeraldooo > Lavendar.
