The Syndicate

lmfao timing

if anyone wants me to do a special color vote for their personal reads list before the deadline, lemme know

I hate to be that guy but DeeZees was the person that first posted about how he should be clear for pushing Vivax, and it was _very_ immediate out of the gate on D6

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:04 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7748 EoD: #0

schiavetto (7): Lumi (38), Manny (57), DeeZees (6), DrWilgy (7), Hally (98), Inawordyes (67), Neon (80)
neon (3): Michelle (108), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (10), ilario (11)
Not Voting (2): MacDougall (4), Jackofhearts2005 (21)
nanookthegreatandfearsome (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (8)
michelle (1): Porscha (2)
The fact that Zeus, Wilgy and Porscha have dropped off so incredibly hard today is very concerning

Usual disclaimer that I'm bad at reads + an NPC

Re-read last ~2 hours of D5 + a bunch of older stuff.

I don't suspect any bussing on the Vivax wagon. Wagons were just too much in flux at EOD.

This makes me want to clear DrWigly/Michelle. I consider Lumi to be NPC.

Older stuff included Vivax ISO + Vivax/Neon interactions.

I think we've done a great job of gassing the Neon wagon, just like we gassed the IAWY wagon yesterday. Some of y'all have already moved on. So I will too. Let's not return to it.

my reads

DeeZees - Town, for Vivax interactions and D2 vote movement
DrWilgy - Town, I don't feel the thread pull that I felt in Hot Fuzz + voted Vivax
Hally - ?????, feel like I've been glazing over this slot the whole game
ilario - Town, unCC'd claim (although it's possible CC happens after the NPC singularity)
Inawordyes - ?????, but I want to believe that EOD D5 falcon stuff was honest townie behavior
Jackofhearts2005 - NPC, trolling (chaotic good

)
Lumi - NPC, hardclaimed from D1
Manny - NPC, hardclaimed from D1
Michelle - Town, for voting Vivax + context (viewtopic.php?p=998553#p998553)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - NPC, claimed NPC for no logical reason, not sure I believe it and would advocate for turboing if still alive tomorrow
Neon - Town, for how Vivax treated her slot
Porscha - Town, AtE convinced me
Ricochet - ?????, POE and not sure how to handle the gimmick
Schiavetto - NPC, trolling

(I'm an NPC)

Ugh I really just hate calling anyone scummy, I think that's my biggest weakness.

This is one (1) too many NPCs. My guess is one (1) scum in Jack/Nanook/Schia.

My vote ain't shit but I would actually strongly push for Nanook being the DK if we're resigned to NPC hunting.

The Nutella tunnel into kinda being mean about it felt weird

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:56 am
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:54 am nook are you hard claiming npc?
Yeah

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:51 am I mean you shouldn't feel bad about voting someone that got herself modkilled lol
But you should feel bad for voting a villager

I am happy if you are not here tomorow because your votes landed only on villagers iirc
Naw, she was lowkey toxic and got herself modkilled lol, zero regret voting for that

To be clear i think she's usually awesome, everyone has off games, just not gonna feel bad about having voted her

Personally I was also unhappy that Nutella decided that getting modkilled was a cool thing to do but given she didn't want to be a player in the first place, I can sympathize with it.

Calling her toxic and then using that to defend your own vote on Nutella when nobody even asked? Weird.

Nanook ISO for the curious - search.php?author_id=665&t=2451

Look at how Jack made posts noting how Nutella nailed his Porscha read as bs. Quite honorable, even without the comparison.

Schia has been doing the 5 post bit since D1, something something rent-free.

[VOTE: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:33 pm Man, I keep trying to read the past 6 pages to see what happened leading up to the Falcon yeet. Can't focus for shit today though.

Nut being modkilled and the Falcon yeet got me pretty discouraged tbh.

What's the current VC and discussion?

Why the hell is Falcon gone when we have both Schia and Pyxxy still? Hell, even Nook still being around is frightening.
I would be interested in your analysis of the falcon wagon and why it reemerged + won.

Ex: do you think it was scum motivated or just town mistakes? Do you think there's scum on the wagon?

@DrWilgy I think I posted this right when you left the thread so here's a tag for when you have time again

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:33 pm Man, I keep trying to read the past 6 pages to see what happened leading up to the Falcon yeet. Can't focus for shit today though.

Nut being modkilled and the Falcon yeet got me pretty discouraged tbh.

What's the current VC and discussion?

Why the hell is Falcon gone when we have both Schia and Pyxxy still? Hell, even Nook still being around is frightening.

I would be interested in your analysis of the falcon wagon and why it reemerged + won.

Ex: do you think it was scum motivated or just town mistakes? Do you think there's scum on the wagon?

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:05 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:40 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:16 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:59 am @Porscha
@Schiavetto
@Michelle
@DeeZees
@Hally
@Neon
@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DrWilgy
@Manny
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes
@pyxxy
@Ricochet

This is the raw list above. And below my first GTH attempt to sort. I am going to read Vivax' Iso and share thoughts and I need everyone in the village or NPC villa hearted to help town toDay.
Pinged myself to find the post in alerts and I am aware I pinged the wolves as well, but if anyone has a chance to clear themselves, toDay is the momenr to do so. Please ping me with your solve

Mich
Wilgy
Hally
Illario
Jack
DZ
Lumi
Pyxxy
Iawy
Nook
Porscha
Neon
Ricochet
Schia
My solve is. Let's find one wolf in a smaller pool and move forward from there.
Share your Poe then, but in this case I need a sentence for each one
Answer this Neon
As far as I'm concerned

Jack
Schia
Pyxxy
DZ

Can all go

Which of those four do you believe to be players or NPCs, and did a user being or not being a player affect your thought process in making this list?

I'm an NPC and bad at this game so grain of salt but

Vivax on Neon w/ chosen quotes:
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... =1080&ch=0

Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:33 pm Neon probs player, tentatively town on a quick skim. Porscha maybe NPC but likely town if PC.
Ranmilia wagon looks pure mostly.

Quite possibly a bunch of scum among nonvoters but phoneplaying so it‘ll be a slow chore to look further and it‘s killing my motivation (or WIM as you fancily call it)

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:36 pm
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:06 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:00 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:56 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:52 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:49 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:48 am

SK, is it true, are you a mason?
I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh?
If you're an NPC, then who even cares

If wolves want to join the masonry in order to protect us defenseless NPCs with their vote power, then who am I to judge as long as they renounce their PC ways and pursue the path of NPCism
Out of principle I don't negotiate with wolves as either alignment
I see you are not yet ready to pursue the true path of NPCism and give up all your worldly alignment-concerned ways.

The true path of NPCism doesn't see town or wolf, we just see people for who they are, not what they were randed.

Why shackle yourselves to that limited perception of binary alignment?
You might be right about that. I do feel like I'm not ready to be a true NPC sometimes.

The thing is... I have a friend out there. You wouldn't know them. But I'm pretty sure they are a player. And I think they'd appreciate if I kept my player equity for a bit longer, y'know?

We might not see the differences between our alignment, but they do, and I choose to respect their beliefs. And maybe that way, we can reach a better understanding between NPCs and Players.
This post is worded mighty harmlessly. Sounds like something Merkel would say tbh (or many others who don't try to stick their neck out but somehow it reminded me of her). Phrases and platitudes.
Makes SK yeetable for me today.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:42 am What if I deleted TSP and they weren't the mafia kill?

Anyways

[VOTE: Katze] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:04 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:55 am i rly cant imagine who would kill tsp at all lmao

but it doesnt obviously rule out pyxxy in my mind bc if pyxxy wolf i doubt hes shotcalling nks
It was me
Got a deleter claim here. Ender wants to yeet it. Quite bold from Ender or indirect CC from town ender, but then Neon could be NPC or scum which seems rather unlikely to me considering the boldness. Maybe Ender has other reasons? He's free to expound on them I guess.
Seanzie claims scout and follows it up with a vote on Neon, ergo Neon is player I suppose ? Or Seanzie is misleading as NPC. Would probably not touch any of those today.

Moving on...

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh
Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

tldr:
- vivax tr's neon to start the game
- somewhat believes ender's deleter claim
- ender dies to the NK after voting neon + deleter claim mess
- vivax tries to get the ender wagon townread, lo and behold Neon is also on that wagon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine but again I'm an NPC and my vote is purely symbolic

I might unvote before EOD if people don't want NPC votes making things confusing

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:35 pm pyxxy's D7 V1 color vote count post

maybe I'll finally have no mistakes in a V1 but we'll see

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NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

spoilered for size

Spoiler: show
Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

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N4 - enderwiggin died
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D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
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D6 vote count

falcon45ca (6): Lumi, nutella, Porscha, Seanzie, Hally, Jackofhearts2005
pyxxy (3): Neon, DrWilgy, DeeZees
porscha (2): Michelle, falcon45ca
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Manny
neon (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
spirityo (1): ilario
schiavetto (1): Inawordyes
ilario (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Schiavetto

D6 - falcon45ca dies, Nutella gets modkilled and sprityo dies for not making post min

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N6 - Seanzie dies, was town scout
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(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

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Updated list of alive people after D6 + N6:

Spoiler: show
DeeZees
DrWilgy
Hally
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
Schiavetto

15 total....7 town, 3 mafia, 5 NPCs

D1 conclusions:
- for each player in (ilario/Neon), there is a player in (DeeZees/DrWigly)

my guess is that all 4 people are players

D2 conclusions:
- if Neon is a player, then there is at least 1 player in (Jack/DrWigly)
- ^this is also confirmed if DeeZees is a town player as they claim

I think Jack is an NPC, troll-siding

D3 conclusions:
- if DeeZees is a player as claimed, then there is at least 1 player in (Jack/ilario) and also Porscha and Neon are both players
- there's "if DeeZees is an NPC" math too but it's annoying

tie actually incredibly helpful, bless

D4 conclusions:
- at least 2 players in (Michelle/DeeZees/Hally)

imo it's very interesting that the neon wagon got cleaned out
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin

like, Ender was the N4 NK. kinda looks like scum wanted to slaughter this wagon?

D5 conclusions:
- at least 1 player in (DrWigly/Michelle/Lumi), or at least 2 players if DeeZees is a player as claimed

this fits the whole NPC!lumi, player DrWigly + Michelle logic

D6 conclusions:
- too annoying to spell out and tbh NPCs leave tn so w/e

pyxxy's D7 V1 color vote count post

maybe I'll finally have no mistakes in a V1 but we'll see

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NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

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Spoiler: show

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Updated list of alive people after D6 + N6:

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:28 pm A giant foot with toenails painted red ascended from the heavens and crushed two people named Sprityo, an NPC and Nutella, a villager TO THE DEATH.

ascended from the heavens

we're all just in mafia purgatory, confirmed, game not real nothing matters might as well just eat hot chip and lie

DeeZees wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:58 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:56 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:56 pm i honestly can’t tell if jack is trolling
he is, hes confirmed npc just clogging thread with whatever he feels like
I take it this wont be a set up youll be signing up for again

You wanna vote pyxxy with me? Or should i go back to porscha

voting me will help conceal the real players longer

if you think that's a good thing for town, you should do it

!votecount @nutella

if falcon, porscha, and nutella are all town, then people need to offer a better flashwagon? or just live with the choices we have made

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:52 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:52 pm I wonder...

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine
*flips over a table*

u wanted chaos!!!1!

I wonder...

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:44 pm Day 6 Vote Count
SoD: #6770 EoD: #0

falcon45ca (4): Lumi (22), nutella (150), Porscha (57), Seanzie (197)
porscha (3): Michelle (25), DeeZees (38), falcon45ca (20)
nutella (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (7), Manny (19), Jackofhearts2005 (80)
pyxxy (2): Neon (38), DrWilgy (27)
Not Voting (1): MacDougall (4)
seanzie (1): pyxxy (43)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
spirityo (1): ilario (20)
unvote (1): Hally (105)
schiavetto (1): Inawordyes (57)
ilario (1): sprityo (2)

oh lovely, I have no idea who will actually die

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

you're flailing buddy we've got 20 minutes still

get some water and re-focus

!votecount

someone pls

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:26 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:50 pm new string of porscha posts sucks
looked at the first couple pages of her iso and in retrospect they also suck
shes a wolf
Nutella tomorrow: Oh darn. Wrong again. But don’t worry, I’ve got a new strong suspect!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:10 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:01 pm Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No. you agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I've literally wanted 1 thing for 4 cycles now.

plz.
Pyxxy has agreed to be turbo'd first after the culling. Your wish will be granted if they are not an NPC.
uh I explicitly asked that Schia go before me if she's still around
See this is the shit I was talking about. I don't think we have the time to play "queue up and chop down the npcs that are still around" and that's the exact game that Pyxxy is proposing.

two things

first, they wouldn't be NPCs, they would be players

second, so...you're advocating for chopping schia now? which imo is a waste, bc I believe they are an NPC and will disappear, better to wolf hunt as I believe you said once

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:01 pm Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No. you agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I've literally wanted 1 thing for 4 cycles now.

plz.
Pyxxy has agreed to be turbo'd first after the culling. Your wish will be granted if they are not an NPC.
uh I explicitly asked that Schia go before me if she's still around
You agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted. Pyxxy goes first if they claim NPC.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

Conditional on my own condition.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:01 pm Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No. you agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I've literally wanted 1 thing for 4 cycles now.

plz.
Pyxxy has agreed to be turbo'd first after the culling. Your wish will be granted if they are not an NPC.

uh I explicitly asked that Schia go before me if she's still around

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:47 pm gonna be real, i know sean is probably town and has crowned himself leader

but his approach of pestering people who have already claimed multiple times to claim is kinda annoying

also i’m not really seeing what he’s seeing with porscha and why he’s been hounding her so much in particular and is so confident in it

just don’t think his approach is productive

mostly agreed

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:52 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:48 pm @Porscha Give me your thoughts on me.
Mech confirmed townie: Give me your read on me, now!
You are welcome to take over. I'm trying to do the best I can as town leader until I am inevitably killed tonight.

to be fair they might kill Michelle, who was also on two winning wagons, scum also probably has 1-3 scout results still alive I would bet, but given their NKs they probably only hit NPCs

$10 Porscha is literally just asleep

in other news [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

If we flip Porscha and Porscha is scum, Seanzie dies tonight?

If we flip Porscha and Porscha is NPC, Seanzie might die tonight?

If we flip Porscha and Porscha is town, Seanzie...might not die tonight?

If we don't flip Porscha but we all basically lock town Seanzie, that's certainly a death sentence for him.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:32 am Hally's list got me thinking about DeeZees again

I was joking about the kill for info to start the day but I putting off sleeping and I searched for vivax in his ISO
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... =1099&ch=0

I think I believe that DeeZees is 100% town

here's why

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died
we now know that Vivax was the mafia scout, but if DeeZees was scum, he would have that info as tmi

odds are that santy was a player, idr what people thought about ran being a player or not, but let's say 2-3 votes on Vivax

D2 would have reminded people that vote counts aren't everything, so even with DrWigly on 6, I think it would be too risky for scum!DeeZees to leave his vote on Vivax when he could easily move elsewhere with the excuse that "the wagon didn't go anywhere"

this theory only fails apart if there's a scum in Nutella/Jack/ilario because them + Vivax would be 2 votes on DrWigly on D3:
"drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith"

but even 2 votes seems like a strong risk of tying, especially where the only theoretical gain from scum!DeeZees voting for Vivax here is the post-flip "looked I voted for Vivax, I'm clear"

but scum had no idea and should not have wanted the VIvax flip anyway, so there's no rational reason that DeeZees would be planning for it, and later in the game a D3 push that went nowhere wouldn't be a town-clearing act

tl;dr DeeZees is lock town imo

@Manny does my read on DeeZees being town make DeeZees any easier for you to read?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:58 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:50 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:48 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:35 pm iaafr is long gone lol ??
If that is true, I blame pyxxy

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:34 pm pyxxy's D6 V2 color vote count post

updated for D5 catching vivax, SilverKeith afk death, and N5 rip santy

I removed the NPC hardclaims coloring which affects Manny and Lumi

V2 - got the alive players count wrong, it's 20

--------------------
NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

spoilered for size

Spoiler: show
Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

---
N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
---

D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

---
N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
---

D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
---

D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

---
N4 - enderwiggin died
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D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
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(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

-----------------------

Updated list of alive people after D5 + N5:

Spoiler: show
DeeZees
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Hally
iaafr
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
Schiavetto
Seanzie
sprityo

(updated for vivax, sk, and santy) 20 total....10 town, 3 mafia, 7 NPCs

Speaking of which @pyxxy please claim NPC or player.
Nutella really putting the spotlight on me again huh

yeah I fucked up the list in V2 but V3 is gucci

claiming NPC bc I don't want to die today

@Schiavetto come claim with me!
You are aware that by claiming NPC you will be immune from votes until the culling, but then turbo'd right after the culling if you are still alive, right?

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Thread Rule 2: If @Schiavetto doesn't claim either player or NPC, they are to be yeeted today.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy?

No claims:
DeeZees
DrWilgy
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I am aware your honor.

But may I have one request, your honor?

Turbo @Schiavetto before me 고마워~
So you're a lying player?

I plead the fifth

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:21 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:01 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:57 pm I’m town deleter btw

Don’t have strong reads

But Would kill nutella Iawy today gl
So, trying to understand. You targeted Nutella and Iawy and they weren't deleted? Has someone been removed by your delete?
Ilario claimed they did not use their action at all.
I remember from pyxxy’s VCA thingy that there was a night where two people died, if Ilario is telling the truth about their role and hasn’t deleted, then that means Mafia Deleter used their delete on someone already

That is correct. Or it just means that ilario is also aware of this fact and that the claim can go through un-mech-challenged.

Although fwiw I personally do not doubt the claim.

N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:48 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:35 pm iaafr is long gone lol ??
If that is true, I blame pyxxy

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:34 pm pyxxy's D6 V2 color vote count post

updated for D5 catching vivax, SilverKeith afk death, and N5 rip santy

I removed the NPC hardclaims coloring which affects Manny and Lumi

V2 - got the alive players count wrong, it's 20

--------------------
NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

spoilered for size

Spoiler: show
Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
---

D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

---
N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
---

D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

---
N3 - Dyslexicon died
---

D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

---
N4 - enderwiggin died
---

D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
---

(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

-----------------------

Updated list of alive people after D5 + N5:

Spoiler: show
DeeZees
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Hally
iaafr
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
Schiavetto
Seanzie
sprityo

(updated for vivax, sk, and santy) 20 total....10 town, 3 mafia, 7 NPCs

Speaking of which @pyxxy please claim NPC or player.
Nutella really putting the spotlight on me again huh

yeah I fucked up the list in V2 but V3 is gucci

claiming NPC bc I don't want to die today

@Schiavetto come claim with me!
You are aware that by claiming NPC you will be immune from votes until the culling, but then turbo'd right after the culling if you are still alive, right?

Terms and conditions:
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Thread Rule 2: If @Schiavetto doesn't claim either player or NPC, they are to be yeeted today.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy?

No claims:
DeeZees
DrWilgy
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I am aware your honor.

But may I have one request, your honor?

Turbo @Schiavetto before me

고마워~

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:50 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:59 am
Thought experiment. What if Hally's list is 100% correct?

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:29 am 10 town, 3 wolf, 6 npc

players:
DeZees
DrWilg
Falcon
Hally
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Seanzie

NPCs:
Manny
Lumi
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto
Sprityo

this is my lvl 0 player/npc sorting. just posting it because there’s only one night until the purge anyway and i’m sure wolves have roughly this list already.

assuming this is correct, where are the 3 wolves in the players?
--------------------------------------
What that would look like colored in with players as....light blue?

@Hally , note that your list is provably incorrect because of the D3 vote counts, since wigly and ran tied that day, but I just thought that maybe colors would help you make a breakthrough

Spoiler: show
Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

---
N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
---

D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
DeeZees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

---
N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
---

D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

---
N3 - Dyslexicon died
---

D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

---
N4 - enderwiggin died
---

D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
---

(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

oh right, good catch

so jack/illario/nut can’t all be players

then maybe jack (or illario) is an npc and you’re a player?

The Price is Right sad trombone

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:35 pm iaafr is long gone lol ??
If that is true, I blame pyxxy

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:34 pm pyxxy's D6 V2 color vote count post

updated for D5 catching vivax, SilverKeith afk death, and N5 rip santy

I removed the NPC hardclaims coloring which affects Manny and Lumi

V2 - got the alive players count wrong, it's 20

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NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

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Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

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N4 - enderwiggin died
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D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
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(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

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Updated list of alive people after D5 + N5:

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DeeZees
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Hally
iaafr
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
Schiavetto
Seanzie
sprityo

(updated for vivax, sk, and santy) 20 total....10 town, 3 mafia, 7 NPCs

Speaking of which @pyxxy please claim NPC or player.

Nutella really putting the spotlight on me again huh

yeah I fucked up the list in V2 but V3 is gucci

claiming NPC bc I don't want to die today

@Schiavetto come claim with me!

Hally's list got me thinking about DeeZees again

I was joking about the kill for info to start the day but I putting off sleeping and I searched for vivax in his ISO
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... =1099&ch=0

I think I believe that DeeZees is 100% town

here's why

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

we now know that Vivax was the mafia scout, but if DeeZees was scum, he would have that info as tmi

odds are that santy was a player, idr what people thought about ran being a player or not, but let's say 2-3 votes on Vivax

D2 would have reminded people that vote counts aren't everything, so even with DrWigly on 6, I think it would be too risky for scum!DeeZees to leave his vote on Vivax when he could easily move elsewhere with the excuse that "the wagon didn't go anywhere"

this theory only fails apart if there's a scum in Nutella/Jack/ilario because them + Vivax would be 2 votes on DrWigly on D3:
"drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith"

but even 2 votes seems like a strong risk of tying, especially where the only theoretical gain from scum!DeeZees voting for Vivax here is the post-flip "looked I voted for Vivax, I'm clear"

but scum had no idea and should not have wanted the VIvax flip anyway, so there's no rational reason that DeeZees would be planning for it, and later in the game a D3 push that went nowhere wouldn't be a town-clearing act

tl;dr DeeZees is lock town imo

Lumi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:53 pm There's literally nothing stopping NPCs from claiming power roles, we have no win-con.

I hard-claim town scout btw
n1 - seanzie - player
n2 - ender - npc
n3 - jack - player
n4 - pyxxy - player

Wolves suck, they can't find players and I found 3

the Lumi post that Porscha is referring to, for anyone wondering

pyxxy's D6 V3 color vote count post

V2 + V3 - got the alive players count wrong

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NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

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Updated list of alive people after D5 + N5:

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Thought experiment. What if Hally's list is 100% correct?

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:29 am 10 town, 3 wolf, 6 npc

players:
DeZees
DrWilg
Falcon
Hally
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Seanzie

NPCs:
Manny
Lumi
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto
Sprityo

this is my lvl 0 player/npc sorting. just posting it because there’s only one night until the purge anyway and i’m sure wolves have roughly this list already.

assuming this is correct, where are the 3 wolves in the players?

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What that would look like colored in with players as....light blue?

@Hally , note that your list is provably incorrect because of the D3 vote counts, since wigly and ran tied that day, but I just thought that maybe colors would help you make a breakthrough

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Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:50 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:45 am
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:35 am
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:29 am 10 town, 3 wolf, 6 npc

players:
DeZees
DrWilg
Falcon
Hally
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Seanzie

NPCs:
Manny
Lumi
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto
Sprityo

this is my lvl 0 player/npc sorting. just posting it because there’s only one night until the purge anyway and i’m sure wolves have roughly this list already.

assuming this is correct, where are the 3 wolves in the players?
honestly i don’t know which three people i’d kill from the players list

falcon? neon maybe? i dunno
I thought Lumi had claimed player.

Not like it matters Lumi never dies
they did, i don’t believe them though

(neon if you're still online, this post is for you

)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:43 pm anyone got a read on dz?
Likely town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:15 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:59 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:56 pm ahhhhhhhhhh, and there's the outcome I hoped for

Jack: becomes top wagon

the thread: doesn't care

Iawy: ties Vivax with Jack for top wagon

the thread: doesn't care

Iawy: switched vote to Falcon, tying Vivax and Falcon for CW

the thread: immediate pushback and multiple players come out of the woodwork including to vote Vivax

it's like clockwork haha
you're discounting that a lot of that jack wagon thread time was without a recent vote count, so I think people didn't realize he was an actual wagon
This is kinda valid but also yuck to take an argument for a townie and a wolf being townies and then arguing the argument doesn't apply to the townie.

I mean I also responded in 3 min at EOD and it was more that I thought IAWY was being super self-congratulatory e.g. the cape guy from sailor moon which annoyed me

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:49 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:41 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:58 pm although I'll take _anything_ besides a falcon wagon here, sure vote vivax this is just town falcon imo
"I'm not stopping you from yeeting a wolf. I'm just not gonna help you do it, either."
damn OMGUS much?
[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

alright I walked into that one

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:50 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:48 pm @Seanzie you've hardclaimed scout right? have you shared all your scans in one post (for convenience)?
I checked Mac 5 nights in a row. He kept telling me he isn't a player, but... idk... I don't think I believe him.

he do be appearing in the vote counts

@Seanzie you've hardclaimed scout right? have you shared all your scans in one post (for convenience)?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:41 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:58 pm although I'll take _anything_ besides a falcon wagon here, sure vote vivax this is just town falcon imo
"I'm not stopping you from yeeting a wolf. I'm just not gonna help you do it, either."

damn OMGUS much?

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:32 pm @pyxxy

I hard claim player

I hard claim town

You dont even wold read me and want to yeet me?

Why would i as an npc give a shit about surviving

> robot putting in the sign meme, No Fun Allowed

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:36 pm i actually was thinking about this earlier (when dz defended himself based on vivax being pr) and i really think it doesn't matter that much

scout's utility is pretty low at this point bc we're whittled down to very few npcs left and wolves have probably pretty much figured out the playerlist

theres not really any lasting utility of scout so i think "dont bus the pr" arguments hold very little water here

"scout's utility is pretty low at this point bc we're whittled down to very few npcs left and wolves have probably pretty much figured out the playerlist"

I don't think that's true in two ways

1) there are still a lot of NPCs alive

2) someone who knows statistics can do the odds of randomly hitting a player every night, but only 5 tries and that doesn't count scanning someone that has since died (especially before the 50% NPC purge)

however I do more agree with the opinion that wolf team was busy/offline at EOD and there wasn't a desire to attempt a coordinated save

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:35 pm Pyxxy looks kinda bad off the top of my head but see if that actually bears out
excuse you I woke up _glowing_ this morning after getting home at 4am
Picks or it didn’t happen

I had

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:35 pm Pyxxy looks kinda bad off the top of my head but see if that actually bears out

excuse you I woke up _glowing_ this morning after getting home at 4am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm Jack voters:
Pyxxy
Nutella
Deezees

Out of these two lists, who do you think are most likely Vivax's teammates? Any leads?

lol im on a list with Nutella i dont super love that

- also kinda got swayed by IAWY's entrance
- would flip DeeZees for the player solving info
- script > poll
- I await Michelle's wagon construction
- @/Manny, a majority of players? prob not

- any thoughts about schiavetto before D8 are just evidence of her winning and living in your heads rent free

a for real @ @Inawordyes to respond, I'm still terrible at reads in mafia imo so I do suffer from "find a conclusion and fit the evidence to it"

I thought I tried to be honest in the post by acknowledging that I was viewing it from the perspective of "ur evil, comma, if" but my memory is hazing and re-reading is for chumps

if anything I'm more swayed by your "Jack is spewed town" argument although it has once again changed what I thought the meaning of spew is

I think you're earned an [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine for now with your efforts

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