[VOTE: Pyxxy] auberginepyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:47 pmdamn OMGUS much?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:41 pm"I'm not stopping you from yeeting a wolf. I'm just not gonna help you do it, either."
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I checked Mac 5 nights in a row. He kept telling me he isn't a player, but... idk... I don't think I believe him.
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I checked Mac 5 nights in a row. He kept telling me he isn't a player, but... idk... I don't think I believe him.
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shouldn’t we kill someone on the jack wagon? or do people still think he’s a wolf?
i don’t really know how EoD played out / if it seemed like anyone was voting to save vivax
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he do be appearing in the vote counts
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Ehh... yeah Deezees could die.
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Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:39 am Deez' former problems seem to have mutated into largely unintelligible logorrhoe in the form of post chains.
Say, what's the rationale here ? I think you are the most nervous poster in the room as of recently. Any particular reason for that ? Any objections to the Wilgy or Ran wagon?
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DeeZees wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:58 amRead my posts and youll find out!!Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:39 am Deez' former problems seem to have mutated into largely unintelligible logorrhoe in the form of post chains.
Say, what's the rationale here ? I think you are the most nervous poster in the room as of recently. Any particular reason for that ? Any objections to the Wilgy or Ran wagon?
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You said you don't drink once but you give off very much the air of someone who got drunk on his own supply.
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:01 am Maybe you'd like to be told what your psyche is like? Or are you at that stage I was in when I started playing mafia and you can't snap out of it? Perhaps you're doing things in reverse to how they're supposed to be done when it comes to personal development. I think I have improved, you keep slow cooking under a facade of liberalism when in fact everything about you seems to spell extremism and other unsavoury traits.
That's all your vote looks like to me. Some endless grudge and obsession you can't seem to let go because some dude attempted to have fun while playing this game. What does that say about you ?
DeeZees wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:35 amVivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:01 am Maybe you'd like to be told what your psyche is like? Or are you at that stage I was in when I started playing mafia and you can't snap out of it? Perhaps you're doing things in reverse to how they're supposed to be done when it comes to personal development. I think I have improved, you keep slow cooking under a facade of liberalism when in fact everything about you seems to spell extremism and other unsavoury traits.
That's all your vote looks like to me. Some endless grudge and obsession you can't seem to let go because some dude attempted to have fun while playing this game. What does that say about you ?
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that’s from D3
he ended on vivax fwiw
doesn’t really seem w/w to me? but who knows
he ended on vivax fwiw
doesn’t really seem w/w to me? but who knows
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[VOTE: Pyxxy] auberginepyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:47 pmdamn OMGUS much?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:41 pm"I'm not stopping you from yeeting a wolf. I'm just not gonna help you do it, either."
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so what’s the theory for what happened at EoD?
is jack a wolf too? did wolves bus? were they just AWOL/off wagon?
i personally never really found jack wolfy but can’t say i’ve paid too much attention
is jack a wolf too? did wolves bus? were they just AWOL/off wagon?
i personally never really found jack wolfy but can’t say i’ve paid too much attention
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Jack is not a wolf. I honestly think it is reasonably likely the wolves weren't around at EoD, or positioned in such a way that they couldn't block-vote.
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Legit, if there was another wolf vote on my wagon, Pyxxy is scumiest
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honestly that dz/vivax interaction is kinda crazy
is there some buildup or history to it i’m missing? or did vivax actually start ranting about liberalism and dz’s endless obsession with him in response to a single naked vote?
it seems so absurdly over the top it’s comical
is there some buildup or history to it i’m missing? or did vivax actually start ranting about liberalism and dz’s endless obsession with him in response to a single naked vote?
it seems so absurdly over the top it’s comical
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Is that agreement or disagreement?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:38 pmEeeeeeeehInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:19 pm If Hally is a player, then their vote carries weight ofc, and unvoting was probably about the scummiest thing they could've done in the scenario. They could've voted Jack, Jack maybe flips or it at least ties with Vivax. They could've voted Vivax, did not. They could've stayed on Falcon, did not
Considering the idea that Falcon/Vivax were W/W, it looks even worse because this would be the "mafia is confident that Vivax won't flip" protection move to throw your vote off the other buddy in the tie expecting that Jack would go rather than there being a tie rand between Jack and Falcon
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I'd kill Pyxxy.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:12 pm Legit, if there was another wolf vote on my wagon, Pyxxy is scumiest
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I thought Vivax spewed DZ town when I read his ISO, what’s your take?
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I didn't read Vivax's ISO and probably am not going to.
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This is kinda valid but also yuck to take an argument for a townie and a wolf being townies and then arguing the argument doesn't apply to the townie.pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:59 pmyou're discounting that a lot of that jack wagon thread time was without a recent vote count, so I think people didn't realize he was an actual wagonInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:56 pm ahhhhhhhhhh, and there's the outcome I hoped for
Jack: becomes top wagon
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Iawy: ties Vivax with Jack for top wagon
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Iawy: switched vote to Falcon, tying Vivax and Falcon for CW
the thread: immediate pushback and multiple players come out of the woodwork including to vote Vivax
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At no point did I say this is alignment indicative, nor scum indicative for you.
And you still didnt correct me. If you say I am misrepresenting, then correctly represent.
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
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Well that’s problematic considering he’s literally a flipped wolf
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Disagreement. Like I don't get why a wolf specifically unvotes Falcon there.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:13 pmIs that agreement or disagreement?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:38 pmEeeeeeeehInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:19 pm If Hally is a player, then their vote carries weight ofc, and unvoting was probably about the scummiest thing they could've done in the scenario. They could've voted Jack, Jack maybe flips or it at least ties with Vivax. They could've voted Vivax, did not. They could've stayed on Falcon, did not
Considering the idea that Falcon/Vivax were W/W, it looks even worse because this would be the "mafia is confident that Vivax won't flip" protection move to throw your vote off the other buddy in the tie expecting that Jack would go rather than there being a tie rand between Jack and Falcon
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I guess I should specify though, I wasn’t meaning “what’s your take of DZ based on Vivax’s ISO”, just “why do you think DZ is worth killing?”
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I tried last night, but I found it... absurd. Haven't tried again since.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:16 pmWell that’s problematic considering he’s literally a flipped wolf
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I talked about it more a little later, Hally really only has wolf equity in a world where Falcon is also wolf, with the unvote being an attempt to save Falcon from a potential tieJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:16 pmDisagreement. Like I don't get why a wolf specifically unvotes Falcon there.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:13 pmIs that agreement or disagreement?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:38 pmEeeeeeeehInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:19 pm If Hally is a player, then their vote carries weight ofc, and unvoting was probably about the scummiest thing they could've done in the scenario. They could've voted Jack, Jack maybe flips or it at least ties with Vivax. They could've voted Vivax, did not. They could've stayed on Falcon, did not
Considering the idea that Falcon/Vivax were W/W, it looks even worse because this would be the "mafia is confident that Vivax won't flip" protection move to throw your vote off the other buddy in the tie expecting that Jack would go rather than there being a tie rand between Jack and Falcon
There’s a lot of layers into it that you’ll see, but that’s general premise
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it’s the posts i just quoted
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Oh, just vague feels along with them having ended up on Jack at a very bad time after having seemingly pushed Vivax (not being there when it counted)Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:17 pm I guess I should specify though, I wasn’t meaning “what’s your take of DZ based on Vivax’s ISO”, just “why do you think DZ is worth killing?”
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I'm not going to read vivax's ISO eitherInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:16 pmWell that’s problematic considering he’s literally a flipped wolf
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In context, it reads like Hally not knowing what to do because they weren't caught up so they removed the Falcon vote to get out of the way of more read players.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:16 pmDisagreement. Like I don't get why a wolf specifically unvotes Falcon there.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:13 pmIs that agreement or disagreement?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:38 pmEeeeeeeehInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:19 pm If Hally is a player, then their vote carries weight ofc, and unvoting was probably about the scummiest thing they could've done in the scenario. They could've voted Jack, Jack maybe flips or it at least ties with Vivax. They could've voted Vivax, did not. They could've stayed on Falcon, did not
Considering the idea that Falcon/Vivax were W/W, it looks even worse because this would be the "mafia is confident that Vivax won't flip" protection move to throw your vote off the other buddy in the tie expecting that Jack would go rather than there being a tie rand between Jack and Falcon
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Read my ISO, and give me thoughts.
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save falcon from a potential tie with who? vivax? or jack?Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:18 pmI talked about it more a little later, Hally really only has wolf equity in a world where Falcon is also wolf, with the unvote being an attempt to save Falcon from a potential tieJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:16 pmDisagreement. Like I don't get why a wolf specifically unvotes Falcon there.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:13 pmIs that agreement or disagreement?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:38 pmEeeeeeeehInawordyes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:19 pm If Hally is a player, then their vote carries weight ofc, and unvoting was probably about the scummiest thing they could've done in the scenario. They could've voted Jack, Jack maybe flips or it at least ties with Vivax. They could've voted Vivax, did not. They could've stayed on Falcon, did not
Considering the idea that Falcon/Vivax were W/W, it looks even worse because this would be the "mafia is confident that Vivax won't flip" protection move to throw your vote off the other buddy in the tie expecting that Jack would go rather than there being a tie rand between Jack and Falcon
There’s a lot of layers into it that you’ll see, but that’s general premise
if i was a wolf with falcon and vivax i’d want falcon to die more than vivax cuz vivax was scout, and unvoting but not voting jack just makes that less likely to happen
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But we can always yeet Falcon (who has not improved) and then take that into consideration later if Falcon flips w.
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like, no matter how you slice it unvoting falcon just made it more likely vivax the wolf pr would die lol
so it’s dumb to do as a wolf regardless of falcon’s alignment
so it’s dumb to do as a wolf regardless of falcon’s alignment
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I mean I also responded in 3 min at EOD and it was more that I thought IAWY was being super self-congratulatory e.g. the cape guy from sailor moon which annoyed meJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:15 pmThis is kinda valid but also yuck to take an argument for a townie and a wolf being townies and then arguing the argument doesn't apply to the townie.pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:59 pmyou're discounting that a lot of that jack wagon thread time was without a recent vote count, so I think people didn't realize he was an actual wagonInawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:56 pm ahhhhhhhhhh, and there's the outcome I hoped for
Jack: becomes top wagon
the thread: doesn't care
Iawy: ties Vivax with Jack for top wagon
the thread: doesn't care
Iawy: switched vote to Falcon, tying Vivax and Falcon for CW
the thread: immediate pushback and multiple players come out of the woodwork including to vote Vivax
it's like clockwork haha
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Nah I don't care enough
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Not sure how I'm supposed to take "why are you being so defensive" as not you trying to say it's scummy
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ftr i considered voting vivax when i popped in because i town read his wagon more
but then i just didn’t lol
but then i just didn’t lol
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I think Porscha not interacting with me is outing for her.
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Helpful I truly love how you explain things with so much detail I always see your view of the world
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The argument that I could make, which I don't necessarily believe, is that wolves hate w/w wagons because they're required to fake two important reads at once and if they come down on the Wolf 1 wagon and Wolf 2 gets yeeted, they can get broken clock wagoned for defending a flipped wolf and vice versa. So by taking things out of your control, you avoid that.
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town!Porscha actually has a pretty good read on me, and I think she'd be willing to try to figure me out.
Not long ago I played a game with Porscha and I pushed her for a read on me and she was scum and kind of got outed in the process of me pushing her.
I think town!her would not be worried about talking to me, but scum!her would.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Thank you. I mean I don't disagree so.
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that seems pretty silly? with w/w wagons you wanna be bussing one of them because even if the one you bus doesn’t flip right away they probably will soon and then you get some credJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:32 pmThe argument that I could make, which I don't necessarily believe, is that wolves hate w/w wagons because they're required to fake two important reads at once and if they come down on the Wolf 1 wagon and Wolf 2 gets yeeted, they can get broken clock wagoned for defending a flipped wolf and vice versa. So by taking things out of your control, you avoid that.
if we’re w/w/w unvoting falcon does nothing to save vivax who i’d want to save over falcon and also stops me from getting any cred when falcon inevitably flips
seems like a bad move regardless of what happens
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