Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

#5877

I don't get how you don't flip the day 1 cw in a mountainous.

Anyways
lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally

neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin

These are both town. So there's probably one wolf on either wagon. Tops. But they could both be clean.

I don't think so though

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

#5878

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm 23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs? Did I count that right?

7 npc's it was 8 post purge and ender was npc so 7.

#5879

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:08 pm Day of the Purge

This server has become bloated. Reality is dissolving under the weight of these ever expanding volumes. We must do a database cleanse.

At the end of the day. After the daily elimination is flipped. Half of the remaining NPCs will be randomly removed from the game.
Oh yes! Mass death is fun! Get wrecked NPCs

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:48 pm [ed note: nutella posted a bunch of reads, but for my quotes idc really]

def still far from able to narrow down pl and a lot are pretty null without looking into isos but here are some snap reads a few of which might be based on anything
Actually im a wolf

Guillo has no posts since EOD D3?

4. You must post at least 5 times per phase or you will be mod-killed with zero warning. That applies to both players and NPCs. Please try not to post too much more than 120 times per phase. I won't punish this unless you do it very egregiously and/or multiple times.

hm

#5880

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
guillo should be orange here

ah did I miss guillo dying at some point?

#5881

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:57 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
guillo should be orange here
ah did I miss guillo dying at some point?

ah yes I'm a dumbass, one moment please

#5882

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

#5883

Ty ender I appreciate your sacrifice

#5884

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm Ty ender I appreciate your sacrifice

Ily Nook lol.

#5885

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm Ty ender I appreciate your sacrifice
Ily Nook lol.

Ty ilu2

#5886

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm 23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs? Did I count that right?
7 npc's it was 8 post purge and ender was npc so 7.

just re-read and turns out Mac only killed 7, so it was 9 and now it's 8, I think
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=441&ch=0

#5887

#5888

pyxxy's color vote count post V2

UPDATED FOR D4 AND N4

UPDATED FOR MISSING THE D3 MIN POST DEATHS (sorry about that)
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NPCs are orange, town is green, no scum yet obv

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Updated list of alive people after D4 + N4:

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#5889

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:09 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm 23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs? Did I count that right?
7 npc's it was 8 post purge and ender was npc so 7.
just re-read and turns out Mac only killed 7, so it was 9 and now it's 8, I think
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=441&ch=0

Chelsea, PJ, Guillo are all dead, you miss more than 3 dead NPCs in your coloured thing.
I thought you noticed, i told you yday

Sorry lily...
Rip Ender,

i will do my best to revemge ypu buddy ..

#5890

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

Suspicious Eod, no pushes for the slot, utr all game , etc

#5891

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:13 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:09 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm 23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs? Did I count that right?
7 npc's it was 8 post purge and ender was npc so 7.
just re-read and turns out Mac only killed 7, so it was 9 and now it's 8, I think
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=441&ch=0
Chelsea, PJ, Guillo are all dead, you miss more than 3 dead NPCs in your coloured thing.
I thought you noticed, i told you yday

Sorry lily...
Rip Ender, i will do my best to revemge ypu buddy ..

yep updated for those in my V2 post
viewtopic.php?p=997444#p997444

#5892

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:17 pm for completeness sake, ender’s main reads appear to have been

michelle - town
porscha - town

rico - town or npc
falcon - town if neon wolf

dz - wolf if not npc
schia - wolf if not npc

neon - wolf

but probably more likely he was killed because wolves bought his claim

Maybe, but anyway I would follow his reads until proved wrong.

#5893

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:24 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:13 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:09 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:54 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:51 pm 23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs? Did I count that right?
7 npc's it was 8 post purge and ender was npc so 7.
just re-read and turns out Mac only killed 7, so it was 9 and now it's 8, I think
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=441&ch=0
Chelsea, PJ, Guillo are all dead, you miss more than 3 dead NPCs in your coloured thing.
I thought you noticed, i told you yday

Sorry lily...
Rip Ender, i will do my best to revemge ypu buddy ..
yep updated for those in my V2 post and sorry for missing you telling me yesterday somehow my reading comprehension in this game has been terrible
viewtopic.php?p=997444#p997444

EBWOP

#5894

It's ok Pyxxy, colour PJ in the next though ^^

Your VC is very useful, did you have time to analyze it?

#5895

I will do it in the morning

#5896

pyxxy's D5 color vote count post V3

V2 - updated for missing the d3 min post deaths (sorry about that)

V3 - updated for missing the first Prince J, thank you Michelle
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NPCs are orange, town is green, no scum yet obv

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Updated list of alive people after D4 + N4:

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#5897

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:41 pm pyxxy's D5 color vote count post V4

V2 - updated for missing the d3 min post deaths (sorry about that)

V3 - updated for missing the first Prince J, thank you Michelle
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NPCs are orange, town is green, no scum yet obv

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Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): MacDougall, katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): MacDougall, Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

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N4 - enderwiggin died
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Updated list of alive people after D4 + N4:

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DeeZees
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Hally
iaafr
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
nutella
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
santygrass
Schiavetto
Seanzie
SilverKeith
sprityo
Vivax

23 total....11 town, 4 mafia, 8 NPCs, pretty sure

#5898

pyxxy's D5 color vote count post V5

V2 - updated for missing the d3 min post deaths (sorry about that)
V3 - updated for missing the first Prince J, thank you Michelle
V4 - accidentally hit enter when trying to update it, no changes
V5 - missed coloring arogame as NPC on D1 vote count, color NPC hardclaims as...pink?
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NPCs are orange, town is green, NPC hardclaims are pink, no scum yet obv

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#5899

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (4): MacDougall (2), Hally (6), sprityo (1), pyxxy (12)
schiavetto (3): santygrass (2), DrWilgy (3), Michelle (5)
nutella (2): Neon (10), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (3)
neon (2): nutella (9), Seanzie (12)
manny (1): Manny (9)

#5900

Live to day 5 goal met, today I'll add retrospective vote count capabilities to the UI - even though I'm pretty sure at this point that no one else is going to bother using the script

#5901

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:28 pm It's ok Pyxxy, colour PJ in the next though ^^

Your VC is very useful, did you have time to analyze it?

Let me know if there are more NPC hardclaims that I missed, I don't think I'll color any town claims though just fyi

I think it's interesting Manny and Lumi both hardclaimed NPC pretty fast on D1 and have been consistent in their voting behavior since. I would also read them as NPCs personally.

By comparison, SilverKeith going D1 no vote, D2 DrWigly, D3 vote DrWigly, D4 no vote is interesting, purely because it's an NPC claim behaving differently on different days. I don't read SK as wolfy though.

From D2 final vote count:
santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy

[with ~7 min to go in D2]

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm santygrass (6): nutella (171), Creature (121), DeeZees (44), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192), Ranmilia (125)
hollowkatt (6): iaafr (236), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (188), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (42), DrWilgy (30)

[with ~1h15m to go in D2]

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:44 pm hollowkatt (5): iaafr (229), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (173), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (40)
santygrass (4): RondoDimBuckle (141), DeeZees (39), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192)

This is before Dys announced in the thread that they were almost certainly town bc on both wagons.

I don't get the impression that there was an attempted save of santy, which I think makes santy look good.

Vivax/santy not paired bc of the way Vivax switched wagons at the end while having no ideas who was a player vs NPC bc D2

+plus

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm I also think Scotty is rand V .

I hate the Npc shield in slots like Sloonei or Guillo.

Risinq , Dyslexicon and Lily felt towny.

Dezeees awful posting

this would be pretty blatant TMI for scum to post D2 imo?

I declare town!santygrass

(but if there was a save, then one of Jack or Wigly is scum, ez pz)

#5902

Dezees I think also hardclaimed npc

#5903

drwilgy: SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia: Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)

So there were an equal number of living players on these two wagons.

If both Porscha and Neon are players then there are 2 NPCs among (SK, nutella, Vivax, illario, Jack)
Add in me and Manny and that's 4 of the 7 NPCs

If only one of Porscha/Neon is a player then there is one NPC among (Porscha / Neon)
And 3 NPCs among (SK, nutella, Vivax, illario, Jack)
And in me and Manny and that's 6 of the 7 NPCs

Which seems more likely, 3 NPCs or only 1 NPC on the following list:

Schiavetto
santygrass
Michelle
DeeZees
Hally
Seanzie
falcon45ca
Neon
DrWilgy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Inawordyes
pyxxy
Ricochet
sprityo

I think it's almost always 3 NPCs on there and Porscha + Neon are near confirmed as players.

#5904

Iaafr I think was npc and died in D3 purge iirc.

{Schiavetto,Neon,Vivax} where would I look today.

I remember someone saying that It was likely that Ender was claiming Deleter as npc when the push on Ender happened, I think that slot is probably clear~

I thought it was Ilario but when I Iso'd Ilario wasnt them so wowee

#5905

Also I think is kinda prob that Ilario is NPC , so the player slots on the wilg wagon would be (nutella, Vivax,Jack) and NPCs would be Silver, and Ilario

#5906

Also sorry @Lilypetal for not being able to find you ;-; . Shame on me. And most important, big Skill Issue

#5907

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:32 pm Iaafr I think was npc and died in D3 purge iirc.

{Schiavetto,Neon,Vivax} where would I look today.

I remember someone saying that It was likely that Ender was claiming Deleter as npc when the push on Ender happened, I think that slot is probably clear~

I thought it was Ilario but when I Iso'd Ilario wasnt them so wowee

Add Falcon to the list of slots that should be looked today

#5908

Lumi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Schiavetto
santygrass
Michelle
DeeZees
Hally
Seanzie
falcon45ca
Neon
DrWilgy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Inawordyes
pyxxy
Ricochet
sprityo

11/14 in this list are players, so there's 78.57% player equity there
3/5 in (SK, nutella, Vivax, illario, Jack) are players so there's 60% player equity there (although SK is NPC, so really it's more like 75% player equity)
2/2 in (Porscha, Neon) are players so there's 100% player equity there

I think notably, all this could have been calculated during the night phase, and the player equity among (SK, nutella, Vivax, illario, Jack, Ender) would have been even lower, with likely 3 NPCs and 3 players - only 50% equity (60% after you take out SK) which is lower than the equity pretty much everywhere else.

If you assume that wolves are logical, not WIFOMing, and trying to kill players, then that looks very good for everyone in the pool of 4 (nutella, Vivax, illario, Jack) as if wolves had a player among that pool then the player equity for the other people in the pool gets even lower down to 50% - so the fact that wolves shot into that pool makes me want to townread everyone in that pool.

Unfortunately I think the wolves are just not being logical when it comes to trying to kill players because they have been repeatedly doing -EV plays when it comes to actually killing players and gaining information with their night kill. So meh.

#5909

There's also the question of "what in the world have wolves been using their scout for?" since they keep whiffing on night kills, they must be repeatedly checking NPCs, which is funny.

idk, I kind of get the impression more that wolves are either poor strategists, or they just don't care to strategize here rather than them WIFOMing their actions in order to throw off deduction.

#5910

DeeZees wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:20 am oh wait I might be wrong ender likely is a NPC nvm

Ilario was there at the time, close enough

#5911

If there are any living players that are known for being particularly good mech strategists, I'd personally clear them until like an F5 situation lol

Aim to catch at least two wolves first before looking at them

#5912

I think wolves dismissed the wagons and logic and just bought the deleter claim from Ender and tried to PR hunt fwiw

#5913

Also hey, I'm a corrupt union official now rather than the mark

#5914

Also wowee the focus of Vivax on Ender yesterday was.... Something

#5915

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:46 pm I think wolves dismissed the wagons and logic and just bought the deleter claim from Ender and tried to PR hunt fwiw

Ya, which is also dumb and bad strategy because there's plenty of time to kill a PR whose only power is removing an NPC thereby making your hunt to kill players easier

If I were a wolf I would just ignore any PR claims until after the purge and I think that's a pretty easy strategic conclusion to come to as well.

#5916

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Still wavering on which slot I feel is more likely to hit scum / benefitial for the game progression hmmm

#5917

Lumi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:48 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:46 pm I think wolves dismissed the wagons and logic and just bought the deleter claim from Ender and tried to PR hunt fwiw
Ya, which is also dumb and bad strategy because there's plenty of time to kill a PR whose only power is removing an NPC thereby making your hunt to kill players easier

If I were a wolf I would just ignore any PR claims until after the purge and I think that's a pretty easy strategic conclusion to come to as well.

Yh Wolves had dismissed the scout mech greatly , to help town balance the unfavorable setup hmmmyes

#5918

There's literally nothing stopping NPCs from claiming power roles, we have no win-con.

I hard-claim town scout btw
n1 - seanzie - player
n2 - ender - npc
n3 - jack - player
n4 - pyxxy - player

Wolves suck, they can't find players and I found 3

#5919

IMO falcon should be the wagon today - having not read anything my very well-informed gut feeling is that falcon is more likely to be a wolf than neon

#5920

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:54 pmlolwolves

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:59 pmlolwolves

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:03 pmLolwoofs

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:05 pm Hahahaha lets goooo

Im sad that Im still alive but oh well

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

Just KOd mouse for sure and almost the PC which went into restoration mode by hammering the table AMA

Actually don‘t, just yeet this and praise satan for that EoD

#5921

Lumi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:59 pm IMO falcon should be the wagon today - having not read anything my very well-informed gut feeling is that falcon is more likely to be a wolf than neon

#5922

Schiavetto wagon is also very dumb and schia is a day 8 turbo, schia's going to be taken care of during the day 7 purge

#5923

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), Hally (6), sprityo (1), pyxxy (13), Lumi (12)
neon (3): nutella (9), Seanzie (12), santygrass (12)
schiavetto (3): DrWilgy (3), Michelle (5), Vivax (1)
nutella (2): Neon (10), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (3)
manny (1): Manny (9)

#5924

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:32 pm Iaafr I think was npc and died in D3 purge iirc.

{Schiavetto,Neon,Vivax} where would I look today.

I remember someone saying that It was likely that Ender was claiming Deleter as npc when the push on Ender happened, I think that slot is probably clear~

I thought it was Ilario but when I Iso'd Ilario wasnt them so wowee

pretty sure it was katze (who is cringe)

#5925

Lumi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:45 pm If there are any living players that are known for being particularly good mech strategists, I'd personally clear them until like an F5 situation lol

you should clear me

#5926

i wish i could just kill all of like schia/falcon/neon at once

would be funny if none are wolves

FINAL FOOT