Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[Vivax]

I‘d like to unceremoniously rescind my townread of Ender upon reread, not sure I believe that claim now with how early it was. What could possibly be the reason to get cold feet that early and then still not being a kill ?

The flashwagon of 3 on him probs contained the real town deleter (dunno if ilario or DZ yet). Thank god my head jelly is starting to recover.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

[Lumi]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5097 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (13), Lumi (13), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1)
lilypetal (3): santygrass (45), nutella (22), Michelle (35)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (50), ilario (6)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (43)
neon (2): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9)
unvote (2): Inawordyes (17), Lilypetal (45)
deezees (1): EnderWiggin (23)
manny (1): Manny (35)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
falcon45ca (1): Jackofhearts2005 (16)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (10)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (13)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

@Lumi I ask this in my coding ignorance, but seeing for example that two votes for Falcon were placed with two separate names so they show as two wagons with 1 vote apiece, is there any way to code for wagons to check the VOTE name against the list of users who have posted since the set SoD so that it can consolidate players under the most-similar match even if they spell the name differently in their vote? I.e. “falcon” and “falcon45ca” would both be filed falcon45ca because it is the closest match to the username of a person who posted ITT during the course of this day phase

I ask this entirely in ignorance, I assume it’s an incredible amount of unfeasible work, but also ignorance I ask on the off-chance that it’s not as difficult as I imagine it to be!

Yes, there are lots of ways to do it, the issue is that they all break in different ways.

And there are better features I could spend my time on than one that's solved by people just taking a few seconds to spell stuff the right way

One example of this automatic matching going wrong is during a game of popcorn that was Me, "MacDougall" and "matt" left alive in a F3. I had the gun and typed "w.s mac"
And then matt died.

I don't know if it was because the lowercase m got matched to matt. Or if it saw the "ma" matching to 50% of the word "matt" whereas "mac" matches to only 30% of "MacDougall" or what - but matt was a villager, Mac was a wolf, and we lost the game because of it.

Having the vote count script do automatic vote matching will give the host information that's not entirely accurate and I was advised to just leave it as is rather than trying to smart match.

[Michelle]

Jack, I am not even curious about your secret read thing

[nutella]

that should be easily doable with regex no? seems bad if the bot wasnt doing mac* lol

[nutella]

i think names in this pl are different enough it would be fine but also ppl should just vote correctly so you dont have to do it

[Michelle]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5097 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (13), Lumi (13), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1)
lilypetal (3): santygrass (45), nutella (22), Michelle (35)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (50), ilario (6)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (43)
neon (2): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9)
unvote (2): Inawordyes (17), Lilypetal (45)
deezees (1): EnderWiggin (23)
manny (1): Manny (35)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
falcon45ca (1): Jackofhearts2005 (16)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (10)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (13)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

@Lumi I ask this in my coding ignorance, but seeing for example that two votes for Falcon were placed with two separate names so they show as two wagons with 1 vote apiece, is there any way to code for wagons to check the VOTE name against the list of users who have posted since the set SoD so that it can consolidate players under the most-similar match even if they spell the name differently in their vote? I.e. “falcon” and “falcon45ca” would both be filed falcon45ca because it is the closest match to the username of a person who posted ITT during the course of this day phase

I ask this entirely in ignorance, I assume it’s an incredible amount of unfeasible work, but also ignorance I ask on the off-chance that it’s not as difficult as I imagine it to be!

Yes, there are lots of ways to do it, the issue is that they all break in different ways.

And there are better features I could spend my time on than one that's solved by people just taking a few seconds to spell stuff the right way

One example of this automatic matching going wrong is during a game of popcorn that was Me, "MacDougall" and "matt" left alive in a F3. I had the gun and typed "w.s mac"
And then matt died.

I don't know if it was because the lowercase m got matched to matt. Or if it saw the "ma" matching to 50% of the word "matt" whereas "mac" matches to only 30% of "MacDougall" or what - but matt was a villager, Mac was a wolf, and we lost the game because of it.

Having the vote count script do automatic vote matching will give the host information that's not entirely accurate and I was advised to just leave it as is rather than trying to smart match.

That was the will of the mafia god

[Michelle]

We should pay attention at names when we vote

[nutella]

mac made it a rule anyway so

[DrWilgy]

Aye, I gotta do better about that.

The only way I could see a check against shorthand names working is if the script could poll the posting users list and match names to that as a key.

If the script finds two names when filtering out obviously Incorrect reg matches, it could place it in a BAD VOTE field.

[DrWilgy]

Actually had to do something very similar to that for work just yesterday.

[DrWilgy]

Name in list?

No

*Name* in list?

Yes?

Vote there

No?

Bad Vote

[DrWilgy]

Also *name* in list count less than 2...

[pyxxy]

@pyxxy Talk to me. What even is your read on me? Like I think you are using parts of my posts and dismissing all the rest of my content to just vote without any nuance at all and it stinks if you end up being a player tbh. So talk to me about your read pls and what do you think of the peoplr that tr me

I wanted to see how you would react. Normally my M.O. for someone voting for me is to ignore it, especially when it's a lone vote without a case, and it seemed like maybe we were similar in that regard, so I was curious how long you would hold out.

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

[Lumi]

that should be easily doable with regex no? seems bad if the bot wasnt doing mac* lol

I mean, there are lots of easy solutions. (regex isn't one I would recommend using unless you're using a fuzzy matching library - but that's not really regex at that point)

Longest matching prefix.
except then a typo vote for vNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gets matched to Vivax
or a vote for "Interior Decorating" is a vote for Inawordyes

There's edit distance which can address the first one, but then a vote for "Nook" gets matched to "Neon" since that's an edit distance of only 2.

There's longest increasing subsequence, but then a vote for "Neom" is a vote for "NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME" (subsequence of length 4 for Nook but only 3 for Neon)


And like - ya, these are all corner cases and using any one of them would probably be just fine, but things get to be a particular headache when there are more similar names and I'm not really interested in writing overly game-specific code for this.


(If I had to implement this for a really robust and redundant implementation I'd probably implement someting that did edit distance + longest increasing subsequence + LIS ratio and if all three agreed then it's a vote for that person, and if not then the vote is inconclusive. But meh)

[pyxxy]

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

I....I think this vote got missed in the D3 count. Someone help me as I'm still newish to Syndicate.

Here's what Mac posted, I assumed it was the final D3 vote counts, maybe I'm wrong?

drwilgy (6): nutella (84), EnderWiggin (37), Vivax (53), Jackofhearts2005 (18), ilario (16), SilverKeith (9)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
nutella (2): katze (74), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20)
vivax (3): santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94), DeeZees (30)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (9), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)

That's at Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:14 pm (my time).

DrWigly ISO - search.php?author_id=429&t=2451 (I clicked the replies thingy on the thread name, is that doing it correctly?)

shows a vote for Ranmilia at Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:25 am (my time).

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

Am I missing something like Wigly unvoting somewhere or did the script miss it or did Mac miss it?

[Vivax]

Game without a lumi should be dubbed dabblers in the dark.

[santygrass]

I‘d like to unceremoniously rescind my townread of Ender upon reread, not sure I believe that claim now with how early it was. What could possibly be the reason to get cold feet that early and then still not being a kill ?

The flashwagon of 3 on him probs contained the real town deleter (dunno if ilario or DZ yet). Thank god my head jelly is starting to recover.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

No counterclaim = We dont yeet that.

And if you have been reading me I had said several times that Dz hardclaimed Npc so the 'real deleter in dz or ilario' is a really bad point imo

[santygrass]

@pyxxy Talk to me. What even is your read on me? Like I think you are using parts of my posts and dismissing all the rest of my content to just vote without any nuance at all and it stinks if you end up being a player tbh. So talk to me about your read pls and what do you think of the peoplr that tr me

I wanted to see how you would react. Normally my M.O. for someone voting for me is to ignore it, especially when it's a lone vote without a case, and it seemed like maybe we were similar in that regard, so I was curious how long you would hold out.

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

Okay.
Now.

What is your read on me?

[santygrass]

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

I....I think this vote got missed in the D3 count. Someone help me as I'm still newish to Syndicate.

Here's what Mac posted, I assumed it was the final D3 vote counts, maybe I'm wrong?

drwilgy (6): nutella (84), EnderWiggin (37), Vivax (53), Jackofhearts2005 (18), ilario (16), SilverKeith (9)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
nutella (2): katze (74), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20)
vivax (3): santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94), DeeZees (30)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (9), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)

That's at Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:14 pm (my time).

DrWigly ISO - search.php?author_id=429&t=2451 (I clicked the replies thingy on the thread name, is that doing it correctly?)

shows a vote for Ranmilia at Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:25 am (my time).

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

Am I missing something like Wigly unvoting somewhere or did the script miss it or did Mac miss it?

Ran is not a valid vote would be my guess

They didnt spell the name correctly

[santygrass]

@Vivax @Neon @DeeZees @ilario

Hi. Can you please stop voting the claimed town pr with no actual cc and that has been towny? Tyvm , y'all stop wolfsiding would be a big help. EoD is close and I want that wagon to just stop existing

[santygrass]

Vivax you even said that you agreed with my readlist and in that I had Lily as scum and Ender as town, and you now came and vote Ender ?????

@Vivax if you are town I have serious questions on what are you doing tbh

[santygrass]

Like, what I think rn is that Vivax is an Npc that is just blatantly wolfsiding

[Vivax]

Vivax this Vivax that.
Get yourself a butler and kindly bugger off already.
Stalker shadow of Santygrass

[Manny]

@Vivax @Neon @DeeZees @ilario

I think two of those are NPC's and one is scum so gl with that santy lmao.

[pyxxy]

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

I....I think this vote got missed in the D3 count. Someone help me as I'm still newish to Syndicate.

Here's what Mac posted, I assumed it was the final D3 vote counts, maybe I'm wrong?

drwilgy (6): nutella (84), EnderWiggin (37), Vivax (53), Jackofhearts2005 (18), ilario (16), SilverKeith (9)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
nutella (2): katze (74), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20)
vivax (3): santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94), DeeZees (30)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (9), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)

That's at Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:14 pm (my time).

DrWigly ISO - search.php?author_id=429&t=2451 (I clicked the replies thingy on the thread name, is that doing it correctly?)

shows a vote for Ranmilia at Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:25 am (my time).

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

Am I missing something like Wigly unvoting somewhere or did the script miss it or did Mac miss it?

Ran is not a valid vote would be my guess

They didnt spell the name correctly

but wigly's not counted in Not Voting either

e.g. maybe the script was wrong

[DeeZees]

@Vivax @Neon @DeeZees @ilario

Hi. Can you please stop voting the claimed town pr with no actual cc and that has been towny? Tyvm , y'all stop wolfsiding would be a big help. EoD is close and I want that wagon to just stop existing

@santygrass oops

who should I vote

[DeeZees]

I wanted to kill vivax a while ago and no one jumped on

[DeeZees]

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

soz lil

[santygrass]

Vivax this Vivax that.
Get yourself a butler and kindly bugger off already.
Stalker shadow of Santygrass

No, since I want town to win and you acting this way isnt pro-town .

So, if you are town I want you to explain what are you doing. So instead of being dismissive could you explain why the dismissal of all my reads that you said you agreed with to do your vote?

[santygrass]

Lily is a good vote yh

[nutella]

but wigly's not counted in Not Voting either

I believe the script would have caught it as a vote for "ran" which mac would have removed as invalid.

[santygrass]

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

I....I think this vote got missed in the D3 count. Someone help me as I'm still newish to Syndicate.

Here's what Mac posted, I assumed it was the final D3 vote counts, maybe I'm wrong?

drwilgy (6): nutella (84), EnderWiggin (37), Vivax (53), Jackofhearts2005 (18), ilario (16), SilverKeith (9)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
nutella (2): katze (74), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20)
vivax (3): santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94), DeeZees (30)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (9), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)

That's at Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:14 pm (my time).

DrWigly ISO - search.php?author_id=429&t=2451 (I clicked the replies thingy on the thread name, is that doing it correctly?)

shows a vote for Ranmilia at Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:25 am (my time).

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

Am I missing something like Wigly unvoting somewhere or did the script miss it or did Mac miss it?

Ran is not a valid vote would be my guess

They didnt spell the name correctly

but wigly's not counted in Not Voting either

e.g. maybe the script was wrong

Mac erased the non valid votes from the script is what I am thinking , the script doesnt seem to be buggy in other votecounts with names mispelled, but in the final vc there isnt a single misspelled name there so thats what I think that happened. Or makes more sense at least

[DeeZees]

Lily is a good vote yh

Why?

some accountability on my vote

[santygrass]

@Vivax @Neon @DeeZees @ilario

I think two of those are NPC's and one is scum so gl with that santy lmao.

Who are your scumreads Manny? Owo

[DeeZees]

bunch of nerds in this thread.

I want to put your heads in the toilets and give you wet willies

[DeeZees]

do I have to produce content to have ppl talk to me

[santygrass]

Lily is a good vote yh

Why?

some accountability on my vote

Me not finding Lily towny thus far is a crime.

And like, I think their solving and pushes seem to be lacking a lot. It could be explained by Lily just being overwhelmed with Npcs at first / busy tbh, but at the same time I have more reasons to townread other people, and from the other people I sus they have more NPC Equity, which makes Lily the better yeet .

Like, their Porscha townread or sus on Neon just feels very shallow and with no impact in their approach almost, idk how to express it well but yeah, lacking stuff from Lily that makes me sure they are town

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let's yeet Lumi if they can't make a better vote counter.

[Jackofhearts2005]

That's how you get stuff done.

[Manny]

Who are your scumreads Manny? Owo

I think Neon is scum, or scumsiding NPC, or scumsiding townie, something with scum in it.

[santygrass]

Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue


I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

Dz this is kindof my view atm too if you want to help me sort out some stuff too

[Manny]

Let's yeet Lumi if they can't make a better vote counter.

yeet jack for attacking the masonry :sadcat:

[santygrass]

Who are your scumreads Manny? Owo

I think Neon is scum, or scumsiding NPC, or scumsiding townie, something with scum in it.

I think they have a very player-like approach to the game. Not so sure about them being scum , but also I know that some of my gripe with Neon is disagreeing in fundamental things in how to.... Engage? Play? Idk the correct verb here but that could be just playstyle disagreements that I think are prowolf but doesnt make them a wolf.

But then them making statements like 'Im being pushed for bad reasons' without any actual reassesing on how they were approaching this game make me squint a lot. But again idk if that is an alignment indicative squint wowee

[santygrass]

Who are your scumreads Manny? Owo

I think Neon is scum, or scumsiding NPC, or scumsiding townie, something with scum in it.

I think they have a very player-like approach to the game. Not so sure about them being scum , but also I know that some of my gripe with Neon is disagreeing in fundamental things in how to.... Engage? Play? Idk the correct verb here but that could be just playstyle disagreements that I think are prowolf but doesnt make them a wolf.

But then them making statements like 'Im being pushed for bad reasons' without any actual reassesing on how they were approaching this game make me squint a lot. But again idk if that is an alignment indicative squint wowee

Also if you take Seanzie claim at face value, I think Seanzie is town scout and votes Neon cuz they know they are a player too fwiw

[DeeZees]

Let's yeet Lumi if they can't make a better vote counter.

hey, its the Nelson Muntz to my Jimbo

[DeeZees]

Lily is a good vote yh

Why?

some accountability on my vote

Me not finding Lily towny thus far is a crime.

And like, I think their solving and pushes seem to be lacking a lot. It could be explained by Lily just being overwhelmed with Npcs at first / busy tbh, but at the same time I have more reasons to townread other people, and from the other people I sus they have more NPC Equity, which makes Lily the better yeet .

Like, their Porscha townread or sus on Neon just feels very shallow and with no impact in their approach almost, idk how to express it well but yeah, lacking stuff from Lily that makes me sure they are town

Cool, call me sheep baaa baaa

[Vivax]

Vivax this Vivax that.
Get yourself a butler and kindly bugger off already.
Stalker shadow of Santygrass

No, since I want town to win and you acting this way isnt pro-town .

So, if you are town I want you to explain what are you doing. So instead of being dismissive could you explain why the dismissal of all my reads that you said you agreed with to do your vote?

First time I played with Ender he was confident and didn‘t give a damn whether he got yeeted or not.
Getting misnabbed was rather proof of unreadability other than anything else.

Like a little lesson on the inability of collectives to not be misled.

When you do a D1 role claim and live through 2 phases as unCCd PR you‘re either a mafia who didn‘t bait a CC while expecting early heat or NPC trying to catch a bullet.
And if you‘re town deleter you should expect your word to carry more weight and act accordingly which is not on display either.

Your line of questioning isn‘t productive as it just forces me to talk about myself rather than pointing out what makes people mafia.

[Lumi]

but wigly's not counted in Not Voting either

I believe the script would have caught it as a vote for "ran" which mac would have removed as invalid.

This is what happened,

the output for Day 3 was:

Day 3 Vote Count
SoD: #3945 EoD: #5097

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (13), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)
drwilgy (6): SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), EnderWiggin (37), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
vivax (3): DeeZees (30), santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20), katze (74)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
ran (1): DrWilgy (21)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (22)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (9)



"ran" isn't a player a so Mac removed it /shrug

[Vivax]

Could also yeet DZ for no particular reason.
While I suspect that the actual deleter is on Ender and I‘d guess it‘s Ilario who has some pairing equity with DZ in case Ender‘s town based on how he latched onto him iirc while asking around for the alignment.

[santygrass]

You really think not dying despite roleclaiming is damning?? Like wtf there is a LOT of people to kill specially here.

And when I make my point on my list you said you agreed with it.

And like, voting Ender were 3 slots. Neon,Ilario and Dezees.

Neon already said that they arent cc'ing and they only made a joke .
Dezees hardclaimed NPC .

So that only leaves Ilario, and them doesnt feel like they are cc'ing or pushing them strongly and I think they even said they could be NPC and Fakeclaiming in their read? Like its not a push still.


And I am talking to you because I think the vote is bad and 'talking about yourself' is something that helps people figure out your alignment. Like, why did you ay to agree with my reads and then made a vote that were in a totally opposite direction from them even ignoring blatant stuff like the npc claim from dezees.