The Syndicate

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:59 am Boq's also in this game and I think he's Town so try not to mislynch him.

oh my god boq hates me.

@Boquise do you still hate me? should I daykill myself to save you????? I feel like a people-pleaser for this hour, you say yes, I'll do it. You say no, I'll still do it.

what the shit, poison?

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:02 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:00 am

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:58 am Who you got as mafia, girlie?

I ain't an option.

Also, you need a TLDR. I'm not the one doing it but the mechanical level of summat-I'm-not-allowed-to-say-ery is high

your hatred for me speaks for your wolf blood you furry thing, you must have heard about my greatness.

"greatness"

I only joined the game because you are playing. the audacity. i'll never return to the game bye bye

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:05 am what the shit, poison?

Some days I feel suicidal, but yesterday my nails broke. I'm in mourning so.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:52 am Chaos is here!! Poison appears

Welcome Chaos, we don't yeet Lukundo aka DunkinDonuts, he claims to be a villager

Claim alignament and wincon please


@Lukundo who targeted Owl and when?

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:07 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:52 am Chaos is here!! Poison appears

Welcome Chaos, we don't yeet Lukundo aka DunkinDonuts, he claims to be a villager

Claim alignament and wincon please


@Lukundo who targeted Owl and when?

maybe I'll read a bit first? and my votes for luk is the only way i can breathe so, we good.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:05 am

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:02 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:00 am

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:58 am Who you got as mafia, girlie?

I ain't an option.

Also, you need a TLDR. I'm not the one doing it but the mechanical level of summat-I'm-not-allowed-to-say-ery is high

your hatred for me speaks for your wolf blood you furry thing, you must have heard about my greatness.

"greatness"

I only joined the game because you are playing. the audacity. i'll never return to the game bye bye

WAIT NO PLS

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:06 am

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:05 am what the shit, poison?

Some days I feel suicidal, but yesterday my nails broke. I'm in mourning so.

How did you break your nails?

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:07 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:52 am Chaos is here!! Poison appears

Welcome Chaos, we don't yeet Lukundo aka DunkinDonuts, he claims to be a villager

Claim alignament and wincon please


@Lukundo who targeted Owl and when?

No clue. Probably this phase tho or last night.

I woulnd't be told who targetted Owl either.

Too specific

Poison, did you sub in or are you just joining?

Do you know?

stop trying to interact with the random players who just appear in the game thread, they just randomly enter, make a few posts and a vote which seem like they're in the game and then disappear for the rest of the phase

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:23 am stop trying to interact with the random players who just appear in the game thread, they just randomly enter, make a few posts and a vote which seem like they're in the game and then disappear for the rest of the phase

I like Poison a lot tho.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:23 am stop trying to interact with the random players who just appear in the game thread, they just randomly enter, make a few posts and a vote which seem like they're in the game and then disappear for the rest of the phase

However, something can be with them, and in addition, it is fun to talk to them

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:47 pm @FoolsGold
so are u claiming u were essentially an evil faction originally, one that was actively killing people off to reveal their core roles?
or was that a hypothetical

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:08 pm @FoolsGold
still waiting for ur response

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:56 pm did fools gold really not answer me? twice

omg chill
I went to sleep (this is lemon again)

yes, we were wolves
if you look at Osie's post announcement thing at SOD, you'll see we flipped

don't forget to vote because you're too busy irl like us
dying from trivia is not fun

@FoolsGold
Ya ur going to need to tell me more about ur factional action then

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:19 am

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:09 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:21 pm

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:56 pm "I am ashamed to have finally succumbed to temptation and became one of those people that make excel sheets of players for a mafia game" - Lemonfairy, 2022


there's probably stuff missing but just lmk and I'll add them

I fully claimed villager, with wincon to kill spies and werewolves plus other not mentioned threats. Nothing changed.
My first DP lenght was 120/48

@DunkinDonuts @Whysper @SeonRichard @TreeReaper
claim to complete the sheeet

My faction is Villager and my previous phase was 120/48. Wincon to defeat all threats to Villagers.

"all threats"?

Well it's not worded exactly as "all threats". I don't think I'm suppose to quote exactly, but it's more like when no more threats to our faction exist.

It doesn't give any enemy factions if that's what you're getting at. Yes, a lot of them mention 1 or 2 specific enemy factions, though I think they end up all saying any threats just that those are included. And I've heard of 1 or 2 others having it more like mine with no specific enemies mentioned. So I'm pretty sure it just varies.

@TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:53 am @FoolsGold
Ya ur going to need to tell me more about ur factional action then

we kill
that's it

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:53 am @FoolsGold
Ya ur going to need to tell me more about ur factional action then

we kill
that's it

I mean, we can't kill anymore obviously

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:53 am @FoolsGold
Ya ur going to need to tell me more about ur factional action then

we kill
that's it

I'm going to end up shooting u at this rate lol
Did u know ur partners, did you only choose one person? These are the things I want to know, stop half assing after u admitted to shooting people, it's not cute, in a game where we near more information

I want details,

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

Yes, and no Nanook admitted it for them both, but thats mostly irrelevant, cause like I said before, it was obvious zone was evil, I said it many times. Once Zone gets a role pm saying he is evil, even if he believes their are multiple faction, or he is uninformed, his playstyle and tonal shift, is so drastic and so noticeable

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:22 am

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

Yes, and no Nanook admitted it for them both, but thats mostly irrelevant, cause like I said before, it was obvious zone was evil, I said it many times. Once Zone gets a role pm saying he is evil, even if he believes their are multiple faction, or he is uninformed, his playstyle and tonal shift, is so drastic and so noticeable

Yeah I can imagine there would be a tonal shift. Actually seems to be happening to a lot of the slots after conversion in this game.

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:24 am

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.

Oh interesting. But that's weird how players are getting converted out of informed minorities and then able to talk about it and give away info. Or converted into informed minorities and then having tonal shifts as would be expected of most players. I don't see how any of those could last long.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:03 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 pm I'm not too worried about you as I am worried about tilg, but I would love for u to try to find it. I still don't get what even a faction claim has to do with anything, but if you think claiming mean anything, why are u not voting Owl?

okay but spectatochat was actually a neutral so if anything this is the one piece of mech info we should actually listen to

as for owl, i'm not sure but i don't think having mafia as an initial role means you will have an informed minority role in the core world, otherwise it defeats the entire point of the mechanic.. there must be some players who are initially informed and then uninformed and vice versa otherwise there is no point in the core role mechanic existing

therefore i don't think there's any correlation between owl's first role and their current one. sure they could still be informed, but if that's the case i don't think it's specifically because their first role was mafia

if we're going down this route i'd rather kill onion, since they've still largely avoided talking about the dkkoba situation and how they were a big part in getting him killed, and they still have not claimed their faction, but unlike dkkoba/mathblade they haven't even tried to soft some sort of restriction on what they can say, they are just.. choosing not to

It doesn't it we go off the assumption the 2nd role is randomized, so even if ur alignment was mafia before there is a chance you got it again, osie did say for the most part when i asked him that 2nd roles were basically randomized.

Maybe there's like a master informed minority that actually knows exactly what's happening. And these other seemingly informed minorities are actually just temporary factions that are actually uninformed like everyone else in the end.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:20 am

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:53 am @FoolsGold
Ya ur going to need to tell me more about ur factional action then

we kill
that's it

I'm going to end up shooting u at this rate lol
Did u know ur partners, did you only choose one person? These are the things I want to know, stop half assing after u admitted to shooting people, it's not cute, in a game where we near more information

I want details,

Threats don't work, they just piss me off.
Be more specific when asking questions if you want details.

Yes, we had a partner. Regarding who it was, I (lemon) don't have permission nor interest in outting that information.
The main reason holding me and our slot as a collective back is because it feels like a low move.
I'm sure partner-outting must have been accounted for by Osie when making the game so it shouldn't really affect much, but from the other person's perspective, it's really not a pleasant experience when your partner flips, gains a different wincon, and outs you because of that.
They are already being sus'd so if y'all decided to elim them, I (lemon) personally will not be doing anything to prevent that.

In terms of our NK's, we shot I think DkKoba the first night (not sure if I remembered this correctly), N2 was skipped, and we shot Owls N3.
I'm sharing this information currently without the permission of the other heads (I think they are busy/offline). My main impetus for doing so is because I believe there is no merit in withholding this information since we are now uniformed majority and need to work with everyone else and solve to win.

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:39 am Maybe there's like a master informed minority that actually knows exactly what's happening. And these other seemingly informed minorities are actually just temporary factions that are actually uninformed like everyone else in the end.

this could be a thing

Did each of u and ur partner make a kill? Or just one overall factional kill each night?

And this isn't about feelings right now lmao, u know information about people's alignments and roles, and u are now town, like u said the game was built around this, so no foul, so just tell us who ur partner was

Half of this game isn't even playing and u are withholding info? Insanity

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:41 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:35 pm Whoever doesn't full claim by the end of this day phase I'm putting a bullet in them

you only have 1 shot, and there's at least 5 trees. i like those odds.

but seriously speaking, i'll talk to vulgard about claiming. i dont really want to, and i doubt he will either, but shrug

@Millium

The slot had me target them with my action cause they had a plan, mind no idea what this plan was, they also targeted me, no idea with what.

So personally I wanna know their role to.

And I shouldn't need to add more details in my question though it would help. U dropped the fact that u were one of the people actually killing, out of no where, and I asked u twice to explain and u disappeared, and then you proclaim, ya we killed people, as if it wasn't obvious I wanted to understand more about your role

Both me and Osie had no idea what u were even saying in that post

Idk why he talks about Odds, the dude literally responded to me with, "Idk if I'm going to claim", the odds aren't 1/5 at that point, it's so 100%

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:09 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:21 pm

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:56 pm "I am ashamed to have finally succumbed to temptation and became one of those people that make excel sheets of players for a mafia game" - Lemonfairy, 2022


there's probably stuff missing but just lmk and I'll add them

I fully claimed villager, with wincon to kill spies and werewolves plus other not mentioned threats. Nothing changed.
My first DP lenght was 120/48

@DunkinDonuts @Whysper @SeonRichard @TreeReaper
claim to complete the sheeet

My faction is Villager and my previous phase was 120/48. Wincon to defeat all threats to Villagers.

I wanna point out this is nothing similar to villager wincon we know and love, they had 2 names in them. What were those factions?

Sorry if u already answered just catching up currently.

There is no ask ur partner here, I don't care that u are a hydra, if u are withholding info from me, it's already painful enough reading multiple people on one account, just for the them to make posts like, "let me ask my partner", and get no response again for 24 hours

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:16 am Millium, if you claim who you're going to shoot, I can make sure it goes through,

@Millium dont u dare claim who your shooting, Ik your not gonna make a dumb paly as to out your actual shot.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:50 am Did each of u and ur partner make a kill? Or just one overall factional kill each night?

And this isn't about feelings right now lmao, u know information about people's alignments and roles, and u are now town, like u said the game was built around this, so no foul, so just tell us who ur partner was

Half of this game isn't even playing and u are withholding info? Insanity

One kill each night.

I will discuss more with the other heads before getting back to you on who our partner was.
There's still some hesitancy/resistance in outting this information as Osie has revealed that there might be undesirable consequences from doing so (I'm loosely paraphrasing this).

DD and Tim Horton, both got proded, and one of them is lying in the thread, I don't care about either of them right now

They are basically sock puppets just inflating the games post count

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:02 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:50 am Did each of u and ur partner make a kill? Or just one overall factional kill each night?

And this isn't about feelings right now lmao, u know information about people's alignments and roles, and u are now town, like u said the game was built around this, so no foul, so just tell us who ur partner was

Half of this game isn't even playing and u are withholding info? Insanity

One kill each night.

I will discuss more with the other heads before getting back to you on who our partner was.
There's still some hesitancy/resistance in outting this information as Osie has revealed that there might be undesirable consequences from doing so (I'm loosely paraphrasing this).

Now that's a better response, thank you

i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.

did you receive a rolecard,poison?

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:52 am And I shouldn't need to add more details in my question though it would help. U dropped the fact that u were one of the people actually killing, out of no where, and I asked u twice to explain and u disappeared, and then you proclaim, ya we killed people, as if it wasn't obvious I wanted to understand more about your role

Both me and Osie had no idea what u were even saying in that post

I got that you wanted to understand about our previous role, but I needed more specific questions to guide my answer.
Because I can't mind read what information you're interested in specifically (I can guess, but you straight up asking is just simpler).

I also explained my disappearance. Admittedly, the timing of it wasn't great, but I was tired.
When I came back to the thread, I answered you properly. idk what else to say with regards to that.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Let him continue believing this and tell him it's multiball

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:24 am

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.

Incorrect

Probably claiming killing in the first place wasn't smart if they infact were told outting some of this information isn't wjse

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:13 am

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:24 am

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet

Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?

From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.

Incorrect

whats in correct about this?

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:08 am i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.

Well, I actually asked Osie if we were allowed to out our old partner and got back the answer that it may be disadvantageous (loosely paraphrased).
If nothing happens to Owl tonight/next phase, we might be more open to outting that info.