The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:56 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:50 pm @Boquise
Idk if zone is truly scum but my meta read was correct in the fact that he was playing like he thought he was a baddie, as confirmed by Owl

hmm alright
i have only played with zone once and we were scum together tbh though I do not remember much from how his play felt like

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:57 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm Again who cares, I dont

so you think they are a wolf in the neut masonry
ok lmao

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:02 pm**

@OwlsWriteLetters aside from Zone, did you mention anyone else that was also in your previous faction chat?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:16 pm**

In the mean time, someone explain to what this neutral masonry is about, I thought bean claimed survivor

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm**

has zone full claimed?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:28 pm**

FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm has zone full claimed?

fate, did you claim what your second alignment and role was?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:32 pm**

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:28 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm has zone full claimed?
fate, did you claim what your second alignment and role was?

Yes i have claimed what my 2nd alignment is
and i heavily hinted at what my role is

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:35 pm**

If someone has the time to tell me Bean is a neutral masonry, they have the time to give me all the deets, like who is also in it, what exactly a neutral masonry even is, and why I was under the impression they were a survivor

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:37 pm**

FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:32 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:28 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm has zone full claimed?
fate, did you claim what your second alignment and role was?
Yes i have claimed what my 2nd alignment is
and i heavily hinted at what my role is

did you claim alignment in this thread or at FOL?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm**

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:30 pm
ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:28 pm I died in my other game so I should have a bit more time to devote to this one for now. Also, we really should sign our posts.

-Leafia
Meh, there is a big difference between how we express things, so its kinda why I don't really care atm.

Fair enough. In case AtNo hasn't revealed it yet, our core role is a survivor type neutral role. We just need to live to the end to win.

-Leafia

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm**

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:37 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:32 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:28 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm has zone full claimed?
fate, did you claim what your second alignment and role was?
Yes i have claimed what my 2nd alignment is
and i heavily hinted at what my role is
did you claim alignment in this thread or at FOL?

FOL
its mafia
i was neutral when i died and then i became mafia

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:35 pm If someone has the time to tell me Bean is a neutral masonry, they have the time to give me all the deets, like who is also in it, what exactly a neutral masonry even is, and why I was under the impression they were a survivor

i don't know what their wincon is, but spectatochat, beancat and someone else (i cant remember who) claimed to be part of a neutral masonry

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:39 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:35 pm If someone has the time to tell me Bean is a neutral masonry, they have the time to give me all the deets, like who is also in it, what exactly a neutral masonry even is, and why I was under the impression they were a survivor

I was backreading a little and apparently spectato, beancat, and fate were in a neutral masonry and that they had a factional heal
you probably thought they were survivor because bean was referring to themself as a survivor

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:40 pm**

FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:37 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:32 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:28 pm
FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:25 pm has zone full claimed?
fate, did you claim what your second alignment and role was?
Yes i have claimed what my 2nd alignment is
and i heavily hinted at what my role is
did you claim alignment in this thread or at FOL?
FOL
its mafia
i was neutral when i died and then i became mafia

k thanks

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:42 pm**

Hmm I guess I'll assume that translates over
So

/Unvote
/Vote Owl

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:56 pm**

"I am ashamed to have finally succumbed to temptation and became one of those people that make excel sheets of players for a mafia game" - Lemonfairy, 2022

there's probably stuff missing but just lmk and I'll add them

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:10 pm**

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:45 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:22 pm Again my best guess is Owl and beancat are evil, beancat more likely since they are full of shit
Beancat has literally been outed by other people.
They started with a neutral three man-faction chat with a faction heal as ability.
Both of their teammates flipped early on and immediatley said this. It's literally not even up for depate? They are undeniably neutral in their first role.

And based similarly, can be easily proven as various(at least two, as far as I can remember) other people confirmed to have received that basket of theirs.
Unless you argue it's actually something else or some sort, you're literally just pointing fingers.
Like, what the heck are you even doing?
Yes, we know this is bastard. But as far as I can tell, it is very much the "everything has a rule, there are just too many of them and they're all convoluted" type of bastard.

So, with somebody saying we can win with our "outer" wincon/role, why go after those that are basically proven to nor be in your way?
.
Is this some sort of anti-neut mentality? Is it just going after the obvious targets? I've no clue.

Tbh, if it weren't for the fact informed minority wouldn't want us supporting town in a more active role just as much as uninformed majority shouldn't want to risk us turning to informed minority on flip, I'd be doubting your motives.

Yall realize that this is still mafia, uninformed vs informed right? Regardless of all these alignment changes and unknown osie has confirmed its informed vs uninformed. People have been lieing about their claims, hiding their abilities, their win condition there is just to many unknowns.

Kiiruma claimed to be uninformed mafia and flipped town mostly cause he knew he was scum, there is a clear case of someone blantly lieing about their alignment. Hell if millium didnt shoot kiiruma he probably still be here, getting ignored by the game cause we were close enough to accepting the fact that mafia meant town.

There is also 2 kills out of 3 that keep happening and every night we've only had one or 2 of those shooters confirmed.

Like there was 3 people taht died and only one can be linked to a player.

So your right there is alot of unknown, which is exactly why we cant just blindly believe every claim people make about their alignments.

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:13 pm**

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:31 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:30 am And no @Kurosaki Ichigo , because that was old role/align not current role/align.
I don't trust anything in this game

The one thing I remember from games like this is that if the rules and flips are wonky and untrustworthy, one should just go with occam's razors and solve. But that's probably because I never had aptitude for mech solve tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:15 pm**

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:57 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm Again who cares, I dont
so you think they are a wolf in the neut masonry
ok lmao

neutral masonry?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:15 pm**

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:57 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm Again who cares, I dont
so you think they are a wolf in the neut masonry
ok lmao

neutral masonry?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:17 pm**

zone confirmed

n1: he submitted a shot on seon: nothing happened
n2: he submitted a shot on tm: nothing happened
N3: he submitted a shot on mill: Mill got his first elimination

which I honestly dont kill mill died by zone ccause doesnt line up with his first 2 shots unless both those slots got protected.

Mafia in world 1 probably has a false factional kill of some sort.

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:30 pm**

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:35 pm If someone has the time to tell me Bean is a neutral masonry, they have the time to give me all the deets, like who is also in it, what exactly a neutral masonry even is, and why I was under the impression they were a survivor
i don't know what their wincon is, but spectatochat, beancat and someone else (i cant remember who) claimed to be part of a neutral masonry

whats bean cats 2nd alignment?

Also who is this someone else?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm**

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?
Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?
This is too vague
please answer the questions fully
Oh no

Anyways

I don't really vibe with these kind of responses and the one prior to Ichigo. When the game is already diffuse, being diffuse in conversation feels anti-town tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:32 pm**

@Millium I had said this in ??? Chat, but I think beancat is speaking total mince with the survivor wincon claim.
I had said before that I found it REALLY weird that they're solving: they're definitely pushing *an* agenda, either an uninformed majority or informed minority wincondition
But it's certainly *not* a survivor one. If they were survivor: why are they putting in so much effort to solve? They clearly want an influence on things.
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... timhortons
It's posts like this that tells me that beancat has an alternative agenda to just surviving.
Not entirely convinced on based being scum here but beancat is raising more questions than answers for me.

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm**

I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:42 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice

I'm just so confused at why they're claiming a survivor wincondition but their entire play contrasts that
They're trying to appear to solve the game by even going as far as to use the dreaded forum tables (which is very commendable tbh I would never have the patience for that)
Alternate motives are definitely a thing here

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:47 pm**

false mason would line up with the idea that the world 1 mafia more than likely had a false factional shot.

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice

beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:53 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh

has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm**

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:53 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh
has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood

They have made a full role claim to me, but I won't disclose what that was tbh

Tbh I am out of the loop with the mason chat claim that I assume is in this thread. I just started reading page 9. What I believe is that they are a survivor tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm**

unrelated, I bought some quesadillas but I think the chicken must have been bad or something, I feel queezy smh tbh rip

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:57 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:27 pm I'll just assume that nobody takes my input seriously, since that's very common across sites

But I'm sticking by my conviction that there are wolves in owl/based

Either way I have work, pick ur poison

I do tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:07 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm unrelated, I bought some quesadillas but I think the chicken must have been bad or something, I feel queezy smh tbh rip

why did this post get whiter/clearer text than my other posts or am I seeing things?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:08 pm**

New posts are bolded
@Boquise

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:09 pm**

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:02 pm @OwlsWriteLetters aside from Zone, did you mention anyone else that was also in your previous faction chat?

It was just us and zone

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:10 pm**

Okay so I disagree with Millium that based is a good lunch tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:10 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:08 pm New posts are bolded
@Boquise

oh thanks tbh!

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:10 pm Okay so I disagree with Millium that based is a good lunch tbh

Based was a mistake, I meant to right based

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?
Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?
This is too vague
please answer the questions fully
Oh no

Anyways
I don't really vibe with these kind of responses and the one prior to Ichigo. When the game is already diffuse, being diffuse in conversation feels anti-town tbh

Oh no

Anyways

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm**

God dmnit, I mean to write bean*

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm**

Vote OwlsWriteLetters

@osieorb18

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:53 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh
has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood
They have made a full role claim to me, but I won't disclose what that was tbh

Tbh I am out of the loop with the mason chat claim that I assume is in this thread. I just started reading page 9. What I believe is that they are a survivor tbh

do you trust the claim?

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm unrelated, I bought some quesadillas but I think the chicken must have been bad or something, I feel queezy smh tbh rip

I'm so sorry that's awful

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:13 pm**

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?
Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?
This is too vague
please answer the questions fully
Oh no

Anyways
I don't really vibe with these kind of responses and the one prior to Ichigo. When the game is already diffuse, being diffuse in conversation feels anti-town tbh
Oh no

Anyways

You have a cool nickname, I give you that, but the owls are not what they seem tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:13 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm Vote OwlsWriteLetters

@osieorb18

Bad vote friend

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:14 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:13 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?
Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?
This is too vague
please answer the questions fully
Oh no

Anyways
I don't really vibe with these kind of responses and the one prior to Ichigo. When the game is already diffuse, being diffuse in conversation feels anti-town tbh
Oh no

Anyways
You have a cool nickname, I give you that, but the owls are not what they seem tbh

Owls are the goats of winged creatures

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:14 pm**

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:53 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh
has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood
They have made a full role claim to me, but I won't disclose what that was tbh

Tbh I am out of the loop with the mason chat claim that I assume is in this thread. I just started reading page 9. What I believe is that they are a survivor tbh
do you trust the claim?

I have no reason not to trust the claim tbh
like there is always a possibility that they fake claim but eh tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:15 pm**

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm unrelated, I bought some quesadillas but I think the chicken must have been bad or something, I feel queezy smh tbh rip
I'm so sorry that's awful

thank you owl, i refuse to move from my sofa atm due to the seasick-feeling smh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:16 pm**

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:13 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:12 pm Vote OwlsWriteLetters

@osieorb18
Bad vote friend

Who should I vote for then, buddy tbh?

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:14 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:13 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:11 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:31 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?
This is too vague
please answer the questions fully
Oh no

Anyways
I don't really vibe with these kind of responses and the one prior to Ichigo. When the game is already diffuse, being diffuse in conversation feels anti-town tbh
Oh no

Anyways
You have a cool nickname, I give you that, but the owls are not what they seem tbh
Owls are the goats of winged creatures

Yes and a staple in Twin Peaks. May they roam the skies forevermore tbh

Posted: **Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:16 pm**

Also when u guys say neutral masonry, I'm assuming u were all told u share the same alignment?

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