Osie's 18th Circle of Hell Game Thread - Day 4

[SeonRichard]

I should go to bed soon.
Before I do so, I claimed my alignment on Fortress of Lies yet that's probably going to be annoying to check.
I'll save you all the trouble, and I claim to be of the Citizen alignment.
My win condition is to defeat all informed minority factions, and have at least member of my faction alive.
Which to me sounds like I'm of the uninformed majority alignment.
I'm not sure if I have to claim my role yet.

-CRichard

wait what?

A NEW WIN CON?

A NEW FACTION?

I think my win condition isn't new, as in defeating all informed minorities.
It's a new faction name you heard today, yet anti informed minority.

-CRichard

Whats so special about your faction?

As far as I can tell, none apart from ensuring all informed minorities are defeated and at least one member of my faction is alive.
Which is pretty standard fare.

-CRichard

[OwlsWriteLetters]

I'm willing to vote for seonrichard, ichigo, and/or tilgard today. End of list.

[FoolsGold]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

[Millium]

Also, MisLeaders is trying really hard to make a push out of questionable logic.

This is exactly how he buried Koba's slot, like almost play by play, pull up some mechanical yada yada, to explain why you have to be evil

I mean kiiruma flips town, and evil faction, and he assumes that's a lie, because Kiiruma claimed mafia, as if the informed minority just claim there faction when they are evil

[Chihiro]

I mean i wanna vote artic slot because they won't budge on any of their own info and we are supposed to just be ok with that.

Like I can confirm they targeted me but I have no idea what they did????

So im fustrated

[Millium]

I kinda agree with Owl I think whysper is a made up train, which is weird, but I don't really think Nanook is pocketing me based on how we've talked in our dm

[ATNoLeafia]

I should go to bed soon.
Before I do so, I claimed my alignment on Fortress of Lies yet that's probably going to be annoying to check.
I'll save you all the trouble, and I claim to be of the Citizen alignment.
My win condition is to defeat all informed minority factions, and have at least member of my faction alive.
Which to me sounds like I'm of the uninformed majority alignment.
I'm not sure if I have to claim my role yet.

-CRichard

wait what?

A NEW WIN CON?

A NEW FACTION?

I think my win condition isn't new, as in defeating all informed minorities.
It's a new faction name you heard today, yet anti informed minority.

-CRichard

Whats so special about your faction?

As far as I can tell, none apart from ensuring all informed minorities are defeated and at least one member of my faction is alive.
Which is pretty standard fare.

-CRichard

I mean with the claims here, your faction is pretty odd considering theres only 1 of you.

[Millium]

Arctic did the same shit in my last town game, he tunneled two different town players, I think I was one of them

[SeonRichard]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

[Chihiro]

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

[Chihiro]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

when did u mention that claim in Fol thread and how did bean know but no one esle did?

[TownMisleaders]

also, foolsgold are probably lying about being mafia too since kiiruma's n0 difference check was on them

it's possible that the n0 difference checks only apply to initial alignments, but this is the only one that doesn't work with core alignments we've found so far

kiiruma's first alignment was town and their second alignment was also town, they just falsely claimed mafia the second time

ah yes
he just randomly lied about being mafia for no reason
no, he was told he was mafia, and his real alignment was town because he was uninformed majority
he had a difference check on you, which means you weren't told you were mafia and are not an uninformed majority

this is speculation on my part, but I assume he was told he was town and informed minority so he realized that mafia might be the "good" faction for the second world and claimed that in the thread
yes, he had a difference check on us, but he flipped town both times (we were wolf and now mafia) so that checks out

you're basing this on the assumption that kiiruma was actually somehow mafia despite flipping town instead of coming to a more reasonable conclusion, which is that they lied

this could work, but i don't know how he would have known that mafia was the uninformed majority and he was the informed minority as town
it's not like any wincons are worded like "you are an informed minority"
it's just your alignmentand "defeat threats"

[ATNoLeafia]

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

Millium had Dkkoba and someone else and to compensate, they had a factional ability + chat.

CRichard is claiming his faction when we have never heard of anyone with the same faction and there not really anything to compensate for being solo.

[SeonRichard]

I should go to bed soon.
Before I do so, I claimed my alignment on Fortress of Lies yet that's probably going to be annoying to check.
I'll save you all the trouble, and I claim to be of the Citizen alignment.
My win condition is to defeat all informed minority factions, and have at least member of my faction alive.
Which to me sounds like I'm of the uninformed majority alignment.
I'm not sure if I have to claim my role yet.

-CRichard

wait what?

A NEW WIN CON?

A NEW FACTION?

I think my win condition isn't new, as in defeating all informed minorities.
It's a new faction name you heard today, yet anti informed minority.

-CRichard

Whats so special about your faction?

As far as I can tell, none apart from ensuring all informed minorities are defeated and at least one member of my faction is alive.
Which is pretty standard fare.

-CRichard

I mean with the claims here, your faction is pretty odd considering theres only 1 of you.

If that's the case, then remind me to stick with games in which the alignments are more clear cut.

-CRichard

[Millium]

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later

[SeonRichard]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

when did u mention that claim in Fol thread and how did bean know but no one esle did?

beancat is in my allies chat and I told them my alignment in there 1st thing.

-CRichard

[Millium]

And no we did not have a chat leafia

[FoolsGold]

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

[Millium]

We still have time, I'm not interested in resolving Arctic's slot anytime soon

[FoolsGold]

Arctic did the same shit in my last town game, he tunneled two different town players, I think I was one of them

was he town or mafia in that game?

[ATNoLeafia]

And no we did not have a chat leafia

You didn't? Oh right, but still you had faction abilities which lines up with the other minority mafia who had 2 member but factional chat and a factional ability which made as well not exist and also werewolves who could kill at night.

[TownMisleaders]

Arctic did the same shit in my last town game, he tunneled two different town players, I think I was one of them

yeah, then i changed my mind and had the exact wolfteam at sod2

this game isnt even comparable dude no one knows how this game works

[SeonRichard]

Before I go off to bed. I'll quote the post on Fortress of Lies in which I said beancat was in allies chat with my slot.
Here it is. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

[SeonRichard]

Who would have thought Discourse would have so many quality of life improvements?

-CRichard

[Millium]

[VOTE: Ichigo] aubergine
since i keep forgetting to link these

[TownMisleaders]

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

[FoolsGold]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

Thank you. I saw this post but I didn't see a claim post from your slot in particular.
Did you claim in a private chat out of thread?

[SeonRichard]

I'm going to bed and you can ask beancat if you still are sceptical of my claims.
Rn I need shuteye. Cya later everyone.

-CRichard

[TownMisleaders]

this push on crichard is rubbish, you think he just decides to make up a citizen faction and claim it as scum?

[SeonRichard]

Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

Thank you. I saw this post but I didn't see a claim post from your slot in particular.
Did you claim in a private chat out of thread?

Yes, I claimed my alignment to beancat in my allies chat with them.
They can confirm this.

-CRichard

[ATNoLeafia]

Clearly its a clever fakeclaim made by Osie for CRichard

[FoolsGold]

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

[FoolsGold]

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

[FoolsGold]

Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

[FoolsGold]

rip lag

[ATNoLeafia]

uhh, it's probably just better if we vote out Whysper and see what they have to offer next day. The slot isn't remotely solving.

Vote: Whysper

[Chihiro]

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later

I thought you were seperated from the chat pretty early on or am i mis remembering lol

[Millium]

I dont care enough to save Whysper do y'all
but not solving is a hilarious arguement given the multitudes of people doing just that, not solving
I think Wolf!Whysper makes bad posts, I haven't seen that, and I don't hate why they refused to talk to Onion

[OwlsWriteLetters]

rip lag

They're not dead they're just uninterested

[Millium]

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later

I thought you were seperated from the chat pretty early on or am i mis remembering lol

what

[FoolsGold]

this push on crichard is rubbish, you think he just decides to make up a citizen faction and claim it as scum?

It's a random faction we never heard of and they have thus far been the only one to claim it. I think some doubt here is natural.
If they were neutral, why didn't they just claim neutral? And this might be a bit picky - why do they have a towny-sounding faction name like "Citizen" instead of something like "Survivor".
If they were town, why do they have a separate faction all by themself?

[Millium]

I mean I dont think they explicitly made that faction up if that's what u are trying to argue
Whether they are evil is another story all together

most things are factions, outside neutral benigns

werewolf is a faction, cult is faction, mafia is a faction, town is a faction (regardless of how many exist in that faction)

[ATNoLeafia]

I dont care enough to save Whysper do y'all
but not solving is a hilarious arguement given the multitudes of people doing just that, not solving
I think Wolf!Whysper makes bad posts, I haven't seen that, and I don't hate why they refused to talk to Onion

Well, its one thing I look at, but the matter is the intention.

If you look at dunkin, they said at one point they had a hard time catching up and theres nothing we can really do beside have them catch up.

Wheras we look at Whysper now, and her defense consist of mainly mech. That and with info that she spends a lot of time in neighbourhood chat, it doesn't really look good for the slot.

[FoolsGold]

rip lag

They're not dead they're just uninterested

Sorry, not Lag the player.
There was an internet lag on my end so I ended up posting the same thing multiple times.

[FoolsGold]

I mean I dont think they explicitly made that faction up if that's what u are trying to argue
Whether they are evil is another story all together

most things are factions, outside neutral benigns

werewolf is a faction, cult is faction, mafia is a faction, town is a faction (regardless of how many exist in that faction)

Was cult the neutral faction?
Can't really remember.

[OwlsWriteLetters]

rip lag

They're not dead they're just uninterested

Sorry, not Lag the player.
There was an internet lag on my end so I ended up posting the same thing multiple times.

I'm aware but that isn't gonna stop me from making a groan worthy joke

[ATNoLeafia]

Then again, you could say the same for Treereaper/Boquise considering I look at their ISO on both sites and everything went over my head (which is why I want to ask them what they contribute in thread, so we can atleast read the slot while they take the time to catch up).

[FoolsGold]

rip lag

They're not dead they're just uninterested

Sorry, not Lag the player.
There was an internet lag on my end so I ended up posting the same thing multiple times.

I'm aware but that isn't gonna stop me from making a groan worthy joke

haha

[Millium]

is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?

[Chihiro]

is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?

to my knowledge, no