The Syndicate

Traitors for Exile
15 Player Game



Setup:
48/24 Phases
Plurality AND majority intact.

In this game there will be 4 Traitors and 11 Town.
Traitors do not share a chat and do not know who the other traitors are.
1 of the 4 Traitors is given an Anti-Day Cop.
The Anti-Day Cop makes Town appear as Traitors and Traitors appear as Town if they are ever targeted by the Anti-Day Cop and then checked by the Day Cop
1 of the Town will be a starting Day Cop and may check to see if someone is a Traitor or a Town.
There will also be a Town Uniformed Backup Day Cop assigned to another town player that will only be aware they are the Backup after the Cop dies.
There is an Exile Phase instead of a Night Phase.
During the Exile Phase you will vote for a player to exile, upon 24 hours the player with the highest amount of votes or if vote meets majority that player will be exiled.
An exiled player will be unable to speak or vote the next following day but as a result will not be able to be voted on either. They will then return back the next exile phase.

The game ends in 1 of 3 ways.
All Traitors have been executed. (Town Win)
Town loses majority (Traitor win)
There has been 3 Traitor’s sent to exile
(Traitor Win)
In the case of 1 Traitor and 2 Town remaining, Exile Phase is removed.

Rules:
1) Tolerate your fellow players, your host, and your Facilitator.
2) If you feel like another player is out of line or making/taking things personal/ly, talk to me or a Mod.
3) Don’t edit or delete posts.
4) Only speak in the thread if your part of the game.
5) Participation is polite to everyone involved.
If your busy and cannot contribute to the game or can’t handle the game anymore, privately DM me to replace out.

Playerlist:
1)KGMurphy
2)Marmot
3)Long Con
4)Gira
5)KZA
6)112
7)falcon45ca
8)MacDougall
9)Creature
10)Poison
11)Wisdom
12)WimI
13)cat
14)Auwt
15)MissSparkles

Backups:
1)CRichard

Randing Roles Now.

Also, Game will start in the morning my time, easy for me to access and remember.
So like about 8 hours or so from now.

All rolls have been rand.

All Rolecards have been sent, game will start in the morning.

Hey players,

I'm the moderator on duty for this game. If at any point you become frustrated with the game, other players, or the host, you should come to me via private message here or on Discord at JaggedJimmyJay#5544. I would be happy to hear you out, give you a place to vent freely, and I pledge not to divulge what you say unless I feel it bears an active threat to the integrity and safety of The Syndicate (as a site administrator). Let's have a fun, competitive game and play with respect.

Welcome to the Village of Happiness where there is no mafia to hurt us, but there is traitors and if enough go into those mountains of exile they could destroy this entire village so ugh get rid of those traitors yeah?

Day 1 Begins!

@Wisdom
@Long Con
@KGMurphy
@MacDougall
@Creature
@Gira
@cat
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@112
@Poison
@MissSparkles
@KZA
@Wiml
@Auwt

im a cop lol

wow what a unique and fun player list to torture

are votes meant to be hidden @Gavial ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:31 am are votes meant to be hidden @Gavial ?

Fixed (I think)

nope

Hi everyone! I'm new to TS but I know a few names here from elsewhere.

Hello. Not sure how we’re supposed to hunt just traitors that don’t know who other traitors are but I signed up for the uniqueness so I guess we will find out.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:34 am Hello. Not sure how we’re supposed to hunt just traitors that don’t know who other traitors are but I signed up for the uniqueness so I guess we will find out.

you start by self voting

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:33 am Hi everyone! I'm new to TS but I know a few names here from elsewhere.

got 1

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:34 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:34 am Hello. Not sure how we’re supposed to hunt just traitors that don’t know who other traitors are but I signed up for the uniqueness so I guess we will find out.

you start by self voting

I mean sure.

Vote Sparkles

I think with the exile vote isn't it better to not vote the same people twice while it's avoidable to do so?

That way it's betting on making no more than 3 mistakes in the upper half of the player list (which seems fair) compared to betting the entire game on a specific player being town (which I think is easier to fake because of a lack of TMI).

Not sure if this is the better mech play.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 am I think with the exile vote isn't it better to not vote the same people twice while it's avoidable to do so?

That way it's betting on making no more than 3 mistakes in the upper half of the player list (which seems fair) compared to betting the entire game on a specific player being town (which I think is easier to fake because of a lack of TMI).

Not sure if this is the better mech play.

...

maybe I should read the rules

oh so we aren't meant to vote during the day?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:39 am oh so we aren't meant to vote during the day?

I think both. So a day vote and a night vote (with the night vote being like a night kill vote where we try to hit a townsperson).

No there’s a lynch also (sorry if i’m meant to use another word, fir game here fam).

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 am No there’s a lynch also (sorry if i’m meant to use another word, fir game here fam).

some ppl don't like so just same elim

or chop or yeet

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:39 am oh so we aren't meant to vote during the day?

I think both. So a day vote and a night vote (with the night vote being like a night kill vote where we try to hit a townsperson).

Tell me I am dreaming

what a weird game lol

I mean odds are 11/4 of sending town to exile the first day, which means if we send the same player to exile wouldn’t those odds stay the same, someone who’s actually good at math should do the math though.

As opposed to stabs in the dark of course.

I’m assuming that cop claim wasn’t serious right?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:42 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:39 am oh so we aren't meant to vote during the day?

I think both. So a day vote and a night vote (with the night vote being like a night kill vote where we try to hit a townsperson).

Tell me I am dreaming

Yeah in the exile/night vote if we hit three wolves we lose.

It's only a temporary vote (one day) though.

So that's why I said at the start I think it's better to spread the exile vote among the towniest players just once per player, expecting not more than three wolves in that group, than bet the game on a single player being town.

Oh yea it’s a night vote, so basically it’s gonna be 10/4 or 11/3 night 1.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:43 am I mean odds are 11/4 of sending town to exile the first day, which means if we send the same player to exile wouldn’t those odds stay the same, someone who’s actually good at math should do the math though.

As opposed to stabs in the dark of course.

I’m assuming that cop claim wasn’t serious right?

no I am def a cop

Betting the game on a single player being town doesn’t seem wise no matter the odds though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:43 am I mean odds are 11/4 of sending town to exile the first day, which means if we send the same player to exile wouldn’t those odds stay the same, someone who’s actually good at math should do the math though.

As opposed to stabs in the dark of course.

I’m assuming that cop claim wasn’t serious right?

no I am def a cop

Are you claiming why? Because there’s no nk?

The thing about the exile vote is if we pick one player to keep sending and we are wrong on that player then we lose the game EoN3.

We can improve on that by picking two players and alternating. Even if we are wrong on one, we lose either EoN5 or EoN6 at the earliest.

If we pick a different player every night we shouldn't ever lose but actually the second option might also be a valid alternative here.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:43 am I mean odds are 11/4 of sending town to exile the first day, which means if we send the same player to exile wouldn’t those odds stay the same, someone who’s actually good at math should do the math though.

As opposed to stabs in the dark of course.

I’m assuming that cop claim wasn’t serious right?

no I am def a cop

Are you claiming why? Because there’s no nk?

it says in my rolecard I have to claim

Because there are no nightkills I think the cop claiming would be the correct play regardless.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:47 am The thing about the exile vote is if we pick one player to keep sending and we are wrong on that player then we lose the game EoN3.

We can improve on that by picking two players and alternating. Even if we are wrong on one, we lose either EoN5 or EoN6 at the earliest.

If we pick a different player every night we shouldn't ever lose but actually the second option might also be a valid alternative here.

I like the alternate idea tbh.

Why don’t we just send the cop so we don’t ever lose via exile and the franer/lawyer traitor can’t fuck with is?

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:48 am Because there are no nightkills I think the cop claiming would be the correct play regardless.

Yea I agree

Good day, fellow town.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:48 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:47 am The thing about the exile vote is if we pick one player to keep sending and we are wrong on that player then we lose the game EoN3.

We can improve on that by picking two players and alternating. Even if we are wrong on one, we lose either EoN5 or EoN6 at the earliest.

If we pick a different player every night we shouldn't ever lose but actually the second option might also be a valid alternative here.

I like the alternate idea tbh.

Why don’t we just send the cop so we don’t ever lose via exile and the franer/lawyer traitor can’t fuck with is?

I'm assuming there's a downside to just exiling Mac every Day? Im not sure what that is though. Can the cop still use actions when exiled?

Regardless, as long as we can identify a pair of players with at least one town between them minimum (which shouldn't be too hard) we can have four all but guaranteed to be safe days without needing to exile Mac.

I’m gonna assume the cop can’t investigate while in exile, i’ll check when I come back, shower then psych appointment. Peace out for now!

Pronouns are she/her btw. Just fyi

Am I right in thinking that the OP suggests that the framer is permanent?

If so, the cop results are much more useful in the early game and we should plan exiles accordingly.

So if we just exiled Mac every Day then isn't this just a nightless mountainous 14er but with 4 lost wolves?

This is definitely not how I expected this game to be.

Originally I had thought that exiles were permanent deaths lol (although that would become effectively a nightless too because you could just use the exile as an additional elimination and get good results).

Oh it did start

For the "don't exile a person more than once" strategy I believe that we need 6 names (minus the number of times we exile the cop) and we need no more than 2 of those names to be lost wolves.

I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Wait isn't it three different traitors that must be sent to exile?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am Wait isn't it three different traitors that must be sent to exile?

I think traitors win if we sent three of them to exile.

So we should be trying to avoid that as possible.

Dunno what exile really is for. Thought it was some purgatory kind of game.