The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:55 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:52 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:50 am Mac hard!spewed Fext town well before Mac "saw 3". Legit, thinking Mac might be town because of whatever, okay... but you are ignoring my cases. You are finding ways to not listen to me. You are doing the thing that wolves do when they can't sus a person, but can't work with them either. Nothing I say will sway you, and it isn't because you're tunnelled (weither on town or scum).

You're just scum.

The number of holes in this... is huge. Like I can give evidence if need be. Alison is not actually considering mac here. Probably they both wolves, but minimally this is Alison always wolf. Alison always wolf.

When did Mac hardspew Fext town? He only did the townread on Fext after I had already cased Fext.

Go on, show me the holes in the logic.

do you think I'm town still?

I am starting to think you are mafia. You have been engaging in bad faith, claiming there's holes in my logic, and that Mac did something at a certain date, when I look back at the posts and he only townread Fext after I cased Fext. I've been going back and forth with you on this for dozens of posts and you haven't engaged with my logic, while accusing me of not engaging with yours (when I have).

What is the hole in logic? you made posts about Fext before Fext had eyes on him. I even made a snide post towards you asking you if Fext was the D1 miselim because I thought your treatment of Fext was kinda sus. Do you want to bring that up? we can?

"he only townread Fext after I cased Fext"... after you cased him the first or second time? Did his views change the second time you cased Fext? (because his weird read-change but not vote-change happened between the first and second)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Lol, good try. I am so pure it is kinda funny. creature meh, me, pure.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:55 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:52 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:50 am Mac hard!spewed Fext town well before Mac "saw 3". Legit, thinking Mac might be town because of whatever, okay... but you are ignoring my cases. You are finding ways to not listen to me. You are doing the thing that wolves do when they can't sus a person, but can't work with them either. Nothing I say will sway you, and it isn't because you're tunnelled (weither on town or scum).

You're just scum.

The number of holes in this... is huge. Like I can give evidence if need be. Alison is not actually considering mac here. Probably they both wolves, but minimally this is Alison always wolf. Alison always wolf.

When did Mac hardspew Fext town? He only did the townread on Fext after I had already cased Fext.

Go on, show me the holes in the logic.

do you think I'm town still?

I am starting to think you are mafia. You have been engaging in bad faith, claiming there's holes in my logic, and that Mac did something at a certain date, when I look back at the posts and he only townread Fext after I cased Fext. I've been going back and forth with you on this for dozens of posts and you haven't engaged with my logic, while accusing me of not engaging with yours (when I have).

What is the hole in logic? you made posts about Fext before Fext had eyes on him. I even made a snide post towards you asking you if Fext was the D1 miselim because I thought your treatment of Fext was kinda sus. Do you want to bring that up? we can?

"he only townread Fext after I cased Fext"... after you cased him the first or second time? Did his views change the second time you cased Fext? (because his weird read-change but not vote-change happened between the first and second)

I think Mac would have hard defended (as in moved his vote off Fext and voted the counterwagon) Fext if Mac was wolf. The reason I think he would do this is that he saw me tunnelling Fext. If Mac was a wolf, he would have sat back, defended Fext, and counted on me to do the dirty work of burying Fext.

What part of this argument is full of holes/categorically false/whatever you want to call it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Lol, good try. I am so pure it is kinda funny. creature meh, me, pure.

you are not pure you are evil and taking refuge in audacity, you have made no good points at all and have instead just insisted in a blunt way that has left no room for reeval, you went into this entire thing with an agenda and the only rational explanation after #5hours is that you are doing this to save creature

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:12 am you must be tired go to sleep

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Lol, good try. I am so pure it is kinda funny. creature meh, me, pure.

you are not pure you are evil and taking refuge in audacity, you have made no good points at all and have instead just insisted in a blunt way that has left no room for reeval, you went into this entire thing with an agenda and the only rational explanation after #5hours is that you are doing this to save creature

If you sheeped me D1 we would have sufficient votes to kill seanzie too.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:43 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:29 am It's a matter of how people think, really

If you're gathering early votes as mafia in a game with no PRs in particular I'm sure the very last thing you want is to avoid giving people a fact that may help to lower their suspicion of you. Ergo, I would have found NAA not doing that to have been quite towny.

Basically, it's not a matter of me thinking he'd not have an explanation for why he voted me, but instead just the fact that if he chose to essentially redirect pressure on himself into positive force elsewhere without including a semi-relevant fact in his defense that doesn't actually do anything to help determine anyone's alignment, it would be indicative to me of a focus on solving over self-defense at a time when that would conventionally be completely unnecessary to go out of your way to project.

Considering he did not, and so I have not made any definitive statements on his alignment, I'm confused what you're all up in arms about - even if you disagree with my logic there, I'm not using it to make any actual reads in this game at the moment lol

So you're saying that NAA is town for not defending himself when he could have, because as town he'd care more about solving than defending himself, and as scum he wouldn't care about solving and would only care about defending himself. Except that's a false dichotomy, because as town he could easily go "Well, I voted Mac first, but if you wanna know why I voted Fext, here's why: blah blah".

I'm "up in arms" about your logic because I think it doesn't make sense. You were presenting it as part of your thought process, a conditional you were using to evaluate NAA's alignment. If your thought process/conditional isn't coherent, then I'm inclined to think it was never part of a genuine solving process and was just something you made up to look like you were trying to solve NAA.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:48 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:07 pm no wait it clearly is and I'm dumb for thinking you didn't think it was bs aren't I

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:09 pm putting that ploy aside

if it helps you any NAA I am in fact town

What the fuck does this mean? What is the "ploy" referenced?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:01 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:33 pm also it's not a nitpick if you're pushing me because "regardless of whether creature is scum or town, you reading him in your townier group is always malicious" to call that out as being gross

he can either be one or the other and you choosing to always ascribe that to pointing towards me being evil is senseless at best and outright malicious itself at worst

[VOTE: Fext] aubergine

This is nonsense. If you have an incoherent or illogical read on someone, that is suspicious behavior regardless of the alignment of the person you were reading.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:14 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Lol, good try. I am so pure it is kinda funny. creature meh, me, pure.

you are not pure you are evil and taking refuge in audacity, you have made no good points at all and have instead just insisted in a blunt way that has left no room for reeval, you went into this entire thing with an agenda and the only rational explanation after #5hours is that you are doing this to save creature

If you sheeped me D1 we would have sufficient votes to kill seanzie too.

bruh i didn't even know what your reads were on day 1... i basically just like made some snap reads and then came back a few times and shitposted. who was i meant to sheep you on?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am At least, EoD is inconvenient / overnight for the mafia team (or is it just Mac?)

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:14 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:07 am i have decided seanzie is in fact mafia with creature

Lol, good try. I am so pure it is kinda funny. creature meh, me, pure.

you are not pure you are evil and taking refuge in audacity, you have made no good points at all and have instead just insisted in a blunt way that has left no room for reeval, you went into this entire thing with an agenda and the only rational explanation after #5hours is that you are doing this to save creature

If you sheeped me D1 we would have sufficient votes to kill seanzie too.

bruh i didn't even know what your reads were on day 1... i basically just like made some snap reads and then came back a few times and shitposted. who was i meant to sheep you on?

Alison.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:11 am i sit here for 5 hours trying to reason with you and every time i explain the reality of the situation you just ignore it and then find something new or worse just continue to say the same shit that i already explained

meanwhile creature coasting.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am At least, EoD is inconvenient / overnight for the mafia team (or is it just Mac?)

why you tryna hurt my feelings bro?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:11 am i sit here for 5 hours trying to reason with you and every time i explain the reality of the situation you just ignore it and then find something new or worse just continue to say the same shit that i already explained

meanwhile creature coasting.

Lol good job trying to recycle my fookin' great read on Alison just now (Also shoutout to @Kito because... yeah, good call).

Creature may or may not be coasting, but you being like super scum... kinda think.. I kinda think... yeah...

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am At least, EoD is inconvenient / overnight for the mafia team (or is it just Mac?)

why you tryna hurt my feelings bro?

This is mafia, not group therapy. I'm just pointing facts so that we get an understanding of what EOD might look like.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:18 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am At least, EoD is inconvenient / overnight for the mafia team (or is it just Mac?)

why you tryna hurt my feelings bro?

This is mafia, not group therapy. I'm just pointing facts so that we get an understanding of what EOD might look like.

im out of my scumrange

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:18 am when seanzie wakes up i expect an apology tbh

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:20 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:18 am when seanzie wakes up i expect an apology tbh

@Seanzie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:21 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:20 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:18 am when seanzie wakes up i expect an apology tbh

@Seanzie

he's still awake, he has to sleep first

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:43 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:29 am It's a matter of how people think, really

If you're gathering early votes as mafia in a game with no PRs in particular I'm sure the very last thing you want is to avoid giving people a fact that may help to lower their suspicion of you. Ergo, I would have found NAA not doing that to have been quite towny.

Basically, it's not a matter of me thinking he'd not have an explanation for why he voted me, but instead just the fact that if he chose to essentially redirect pressure on himself into positive force elsewhere without including a semi-relevant fact in his defense that doesn't actually do anything to help determine anyone's alignment, it would be indicative to me of a focus on solving over self-defense at a time when that would conventionally be completely unnecessary to go out of your way to project.

Considering he did not, and so I have not made any definitive statements on his alignment, I'm confused what you're all up in arms about - even if you disagree with my logic there, I'm not using it to make any actual reads in this game at the moment lol

So you're saying that NAA is town for not defending himself when he could have, because as town he'd care more about solving than defending himself, and as scum he wouldn't care about solving and would only care about defending himself. Except that's a false dichotomy, because as town he could easily go "Well, I voted Mac first, but if you wanna know why I voted Fext, here's why: blah blah".

I'm "up in arms" about your logic because I think it doesn't make sense. You were presenting it as part of your thought process, a conditional you were using to evaluate NAA's alignment. If your thought process/conditional isn't coherent, then I'm inclined to think it was never part of a genuine solving process and was just something you made up to look like you were trying to solve NAA.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:48 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:07 pm no wait it clearly is and I'm dumb for thinking you didn't think it was bs aren't I

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:09 pm putting that ploy aside

if it helps you any NAA I am in fact town

What the fuck does this mean? What is the "ploy" referenced?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:01 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:33 pm also it's not a nitpick if you're pushing me because "regardless of whether creature is scum or town, you reading him in your townier group is always malicious" to call that out as being gross

he can either be one or the other and you choosing to always ascribe that to pointing towards me being evil is senseless at best and outright malicious itself at worst

[VOTE: Fext] aubergine

This is nonsense. If you have an incoherent or illogical read on someone, that is suspicious behavior regardless of the alignment of the person you were reading.

It is upon reading this series of posts that a wolf Mac would think "I should just defend Fext for towncred, Alison will clearly do my job for me".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Why not creature?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:22 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:43 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:29 am It's a matter of how people think, really

If you're gathering early votes as mafia in a game with no PRs in particular I'm sure the very last thing you want is to avoid giving people a fact that may help to lower their suspicion of you. Ergo, I would have found NAA not doing that to have been quite towny.

Basically, it's not a matter of me thinking he'd not have an explanation for why he voted me, but instead just the fact that if he chose to essentially redirect pressure on himself into positive force elsewhere without including a semi-relevant fact in his defense that doesn't actually do anything to help determine anyone's alignment, it would be indicative to me of a focus on solving over self-defense at a time when that would conventionally be completely unnecessary to go out of your way to project.

Considering he did not, and so I have not made any definitive statements on his alignment, I'm confused what you're all up in arms about - even if you disagree with my logic there, I'm not using it to make any actual reads in this game at the moment lol

So you're saying that NAA is town for not defending himself when he could have, because as town he'd care more about solving than defending himself, and as scum he wouldn't care about solving and would only care about defending himself. Except that's a false dichotomy, because as town he could easily go "Well, I voted Mac first, but if you wanna know why I voted Fext, here's why: blah blah".

I'm "up in arms" about your logic because I think it doesn't make sense. You were presenting it as part of your thought process, a conditional you were using to evaluate NAA's alignment. If your thought process/conditional isn't coherent, then I'm inclined to think it was never part of a genuine solving process and was just something you made up to look like you were trying to solve NAA.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:48 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:07 pm no wait it clearly is and I'm dumb for thinking you didn't think it was bs aren't I

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:09 pm putting that ploy aside

if it helps you any NAA I am in fact town

What the fuck does this mean? What is the "ploy" referenced?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:01 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:33 pm also it's not a nitpick if you're pushing me because "regardless of whether creature is scum or town, you reading him in your townier group is always malicious" to call that out as being gross

he can either be one or the other and you choosing to always ascribe that to pointing towards me being evil is senseless at best and outright malicious itself at worst

[VOTE: Fext] aubergine

This is nonsense. If you have an incoherent or illogical read on someone, that is suspicious behavior regardless of the alignment of the person you were reading.

It is upon reading this series of posts that a wolf Mac would think "I should just defend Fext for towncred, Alison will clearly do my job for me".

1.) why should I believe you're V here?

2.) What do you think of mac's takes before this point?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

What do you mean pre Mac vs post Mac?

"My cases don't involve reflection" is a vague, generic argument that is entirely used to discredit me without specifying the specific parts of my arguments that are wrong or lacking and why they're wrong or lacking. Your repeated insistence on attacking me in this way is why I am starting to scumread you; they don't make sense, they don't fit your town playstyle, and they are esesentially focused on trying to make me look bad more than they're actually engaging with my points.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:29 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

I'm not fucking mafia God damn it

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:39 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

What do you mean pre Mac vs post Mac?

"My cases don't involve reflection" is a vague, generic argument that is entirely used to discredit me without specifying the specific parts of my arguments that are wrong or lacking and why they're wrong or lacking. Your repeated insistence on attacking me in this way is why I am starting to scumread you; they don't make sense, they don't fit your town playstyle, and they are esesentially focused on trying to make me look bad more than they're actually engaging with my points.

your case on Fext before Mac showed up to the thread vs what happend post-Mac showing up to the thread. you conflate this shit with so much agenda and then ignore my points...

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:41 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:39 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

What do you mean pre Mac vs post Mac?

"My cases don't involve reflection" is a vague, generic argument that is entirely used to discredit me without specifying the specific parts of my arguments that are wrong or lacking and why they're wrong or lacking. Your repeated insistence on attacking me in this way is why I am starting to scumread you; they don't make sense, they don't fit your town playstyle, and they are esesentially focused on trying to make me look bad more than they're actually engaging with my points.

your case on Fext before Mac showed up to the thread vs what happend post-Mac showing up to the thread. you conflate this shit with so much agenda and then ignore my points...

What are the alleged differences in my case on Fext before and after Mac showed up to the thread? Why are those differences relevant?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:41 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:39 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

What do you mean pre Mac vs post Mac?

"My cases don't involve reflection" is a vague, generic argument that is entirely used to discredit me without specifying the specific parts of my arguments that are wrong or lacking and why they're wrong or lacking. Your repeated insistence on attacking me in this way is why I am starting to scumread you; they don't make sense, they don't fit your town playstyle, and they are esesentially focused on trying to make me look bad more than they're actually engaging with my points.

your case on Fext before Mac showed up to the thread vs what happend post-Mac showing up to the thread. you conflate this shit with so much agenda and then ignore my points...

What are the alleged differences in my case on Fext before and after Mac showed up to the thread? Why are those differences relevant?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:48 am I've given you page after page explaining my logic as extensively as humanly possible. If you want to talk, be extremely clear, specific and precise about what it is you want. I've had enough with you throwing vague nonsense at me and pretending it means something and I am scum for not responding to it enough. If you want a fair exchange from me so we can talk, then define it. Tell me what a fair exchange is, and what you want from me. No more "you haven't reflected enough", "you haven't considered the differences", etc. Be specific.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:48 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

@MacDougall this is going on. Thoughts?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:56 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:48 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 am tbh if alison is mafia like... it's just wilgy lol

Alison's doing things that confuse her "pre you" vs "post you" stuff and her cases don't involve reflection. She's obv wolf. Like... just bus her at this point probably?

@MacDougall this is going on. Thoughts?

@MacDougall