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Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:49 am**

im also sitting on Rondo/Lily
Lily vig's porsche, Rondo gets roleblocked, Mac shoot tilg

@Lilypetal
to confirm ur slank vig only works on someone below a threshold of posts, not the lowest poster at any given time, right?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 am**

Did lily claim one shot on it?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:49 am im also sitting on Rondo/Lily
Lily vig's porsche, Rondo gets roleblocked, Mac shoot tilg

@Lilypetal
to confirm ur slank vig only works on someone below a threshold of posts, not the lowest poster at any given time, right?

yep its someone below 70 posts in that day

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:43 am Also assumes that ilario is town and not your partner lol

This is fair.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 am Did lily claim one shot on it?

1 shot used n2 yes

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am**

Why did you say you could only shoot Porscha and never mention Belzy, Lily?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am**

On d2 when you claimed the ability to mech resolve Porscha

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am**

Hang on

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am Why did you say you could only shoot Porscha and never mention Belzy, Lily?

i mentioned it could only work on belzy/porscha iirc after but my plan was to kill porscha and frame my mech as an investigative skill to draw the nk to me

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:55 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am Why did you say you could only shoot Porscha and never mention Belzy, Lily?
i mentioned it could only work on belzy/porscha iirc after but my plan was to kill porscha and frame my mech as an investigative skill to draw the nk to me

I'm more saying that when we asked you "could we just flip Porscha and you use it on someone else." Why did you say "no only Porscha"?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:55 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am Why did you say you could only shoot Porscha and never mention Belzy, Lily?
i mentioned it could only work on belzy/porscha iirc after but my plan was to kill porscha and frame my mech as an investigative skill to draw the nk to me
I'm more saying that when we asked you "could we just flip Porscha and you use it on someone else." Why did you say "no only Porscha"?

that was many days ago dont rly remember

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:17 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:13 am And also you think?
as in belzy (i think)

i didnt consider them so i never looked at how many posts they did day 2 but i doubt it was above 70

Nvm i would've sworn she said 60 but its just my bad memory

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:58 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:10 am like i could only use my vig on like porscha or belzy i think and porscha was obviously outed so my line of play makes 100% sense to me idk why people would even begin to tinfoil me

This was still pretty early d3 @EnderWiggin

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 am**

Oh nvm I see the argument you're making

Sorry im tired and not entirely sober

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:00 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 am Oh nvm I see the argument you're making

Sorry im tired and not entirely sober

Np.

I'm just trying to sort this game in my head.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:01 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:55 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:52 am Why did you say you could only shoot Porscha and never mention Belzy, Lily?
i mentioned it could only work on belzy/porscha iirc after but my plan was to kill porscha and frame my mech as an investigative skill to draw the nk to me
I'm more saying that when we asked you "could we just flip Porscha and you use it on someone else." Why did you say "no only Porscha"?
that was many days ago dont rly remember

Hmmmmmmmm

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 am**

Why do you think that illario wagoned Belzy yesterday if he's wolf?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:03 am**

it makes sense to be if you are lying about the slank part, and just wanted to get the cred for shooting them, more optimal targets for sure
but wolf!you is certainly riding this train right now

the only reason I'm not humoring it has much is because u had claimed to get shot
another interesting decision by the mods to give someone info on their BP being eaten

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 am**

you also pretty much set urself up to do it because coming into day 3 without a hard check on Porsche would certainly link you two together in my opinion
but again, this only works if Rondo is a wolf, since he got roleblocked, and no host allows wolf to factional kill each other

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:09 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 am Why do you think that illario wagoned Belzy yesterday if he's wolf?

Tbf he also tried to push onto rondo for a bit

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:10 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:09 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 am Why do you think that illario wagoned Belzy yesterday if he's wolf?
Tbf he also tried to push onto rondo for a bit

Ik.

I'm asking Lily to see how she acts on this.

Trying to gauge how correct I am

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:11 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 am Why do you think that illario wagoned Belzy yesterday if he's wolf?

belzy was never endgaming and had loverized the ENV

belzy dying yesterday was always +ev for wolves and we played right into their hands. it's what I was saying all of yesterday

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:14 am**

and yes, he also tried to wagon rondo at times but that was never going to happen. No elim but belzy was likely to go through. It's a miracle I rallied to many people to vote ilario lol

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:16 am**

Honestly if Belzy didnt claim to Mac, there is a fair chance, Illario just fucking dies yesterday
being alive as the roleblocker is a thing, but the town side to that is how they claimed it, which I dont think they do as a wolf

also im dumb, lily/rondo is never a thing if Illario is telling the truth, unless their was two KP last night

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:17 am**

does anyone wanna claim the kill on Neon?
it would help me solve the game if it wasn't done by wolves, please and thanks

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:17 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:16 am Honestly if Belzy didnt claim to Mac, there is a fair chance, Illario just fucking dies yesterday
being alive as the roleblocker is a thing, but the town side to that is how they claimed it, which I dont think they do as a wolf

also im dumb, lily/rondo is never a thing if Illario is telling the truth, unless their was two KP last night

so wouldn't you say belzy digging themselves into an even deeper hole helps ilario out?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:18 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:17 am does anyone wanna claim the kill on Neon?
it would help me solve the game if it wasn't done by wolves, please and thanks

i don't think town has any hidden kp

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:20 am**

Rondo's iso is so gross, he is at least consistent with the questions, but there is still no real attempt to solve
his playstyle feels performative, and the most damning evidence is his handling of Ender and Dya yesterday still
a town doesn't come into day 4, look at one post, call this a wolf, maybe if he held it, but he just instantly drops it
The progression is god awful for day 4

if this is town, we just lose I think

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:21 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:18 am
Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:17 am does anyone wanna claim the kill on Neon?
it would help me solve the game if it wasn't done by wolves, please and thanks
i don't think town has any hidden kp

i was hoping the 3rd party would out themself lol

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:22 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:17 am
Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:16 am Honestly if Belzy didnt claim to Mac, there is a fair chance, Illario just fucking dies yesterday
being alive as the roleblocker is a thing, but the town side to that is how they claimed it, which I dont think they do as a wolf

also im dumb, lily/rondo is never a thing if Illario is telling the truth, unless their was two KP last night
so wouldn't you say belzy digging themselves into an even deeper hole helps ilario out?

idk what was the VC/Thread Atmosphere like, when Mac came into the thread with, "Belzy just outted to me"

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:41 am**

@RondoDimBuckle
im pretty sure u didnt answer one of my questions or I never asked it. Does the fact that from your PoV Dia isn't lying in that post, make u feel better about them? There really isn't any attempt to evaluate it outside, "God dmn, they weren't lying"

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:52 am**

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:23 pm i spent like all of d2 trying to get porscha or belzy instead of alison but I'm definitely a wolf. yup

I went through your iso, and I really think you are over selling this statement
who is Rondo's partner in your opinion?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:05 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:11 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 am Why do you think that illario wagoned Belzy yesterday if he's wolf?
belzy was never endgaming and had loverized the ENV

belzy dying yesterday was always +ev for wolves and we played right into their hands. it's what I was saying all of yesterday

Its only +ev if the other option is hitting a different mafia, killing a non-belzy mafia is the best town outcome but its far from a sure thing

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:05 am**

does anybody have the day 2 VC? I dont know how u guys can live, with one visual VC, and hosts cant even put that in the end of day post

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am**

Like if you're just locking ilario as mafia never reconsider then yes belzy dying was better for mafia than ilario

But if ilario is town it's significantly better for mafia because it shortens the game by a day for town to die there over belzy

Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am**

*changing course away from belzy might be clearer

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:11 am**

goin back through Dya's iso I was mistaken on some inconsistencies day 2
I really wish I had access to vote counts here

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Like if you're just locking ilario as mafia never reconsider then yes belzy dying was better for mafia than ilario

But if ilario is town it's significantly better for mafia because it shortens the game by a day for town to die there over belzy

Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.

so don't you think the wolves would've taken my push onto ilario and gone with it to get him over belzy? it was damn close by eod

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.

you've been on my ass like all game, you haven't even evaluated me ever, fuck off lol
and that wasn't confident, then what is it, you trolling me?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:18 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Like if you're just locking ilario as mafia never reconsider then yes belzy dying was better for mafia than ilario

But if ilario is town it's significantly better for mafia because it shortens the game by a day for town to die there over belzy

Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.
so don't you think the wolves would've taken my push onto ilario and gone with it to get him over belzy? it was damn close by eod

if we are assuming wolf!ilario worlds, of which they are the roleblocker, no

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:19 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:18 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Like if you're just locking ilario as mafia never reconsider then yes belzy dying was better for mafia than ilario

But if ilario is town it's significantly better for mafia because it shortens the game by a day for town to die there over belzy

Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.
so don't you think the wolves would've taken my push onto ilario and gone with it to get him over belzy? it was damn close by eod
if we are assuming wolf!ilario worlds, of which they are the roleblocker, no

nook mentioned how v!ilario dying over belzy would've been rly good for wolves which is what I was talking about

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:23 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Like if you're just locking ilario as mafia never reconsider then yes belzy dying was better for mafia than ilario

But if ilario is town it's significantly better for mafia because it shortens the game by a day for town to die there over belzy

Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.
so don't you think the wolves would've taken my push onto ilario and gone with it to get him over belzy? it was damn close by eod

I think its possible, yeah

It does come with jts own risks of course, im just pointing out that "belzy dying was +ev for mafia" isn't strictly true

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:24 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:10 am Thats why j was resistant to changing course on belzy, i didn't have a second sr confident enough to risk losing a day.
you've been on my ass like all game, you haven't even evaluated me ever, fuck off lol
and that wasn't confident, then what is it, you trolling me?

confident enough to risk losing a day

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:31 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:31 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I would like you to give me some freshly chewn gamestate reads pls
My gamestate is im tired and have a headache, call back tomorrow

This day phase is only 24 hours @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:37 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:41 pm @Illario
I went through Dya's iso, and I really dont see anything that clearing
The fiddled with wolf reads on them, but always ended up somewhere else, I feel like i saw some minor inconsistencies in their thoughts as well

What do you mean?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:43 am**

nothing, they fiddle around belzy and porsche day 2, but thought they ended up on Alison, which wasn't the case
and on day 3 they couldn't vote belzy

and I got confused between a jump from day 3 to day 4, since the thread name never changed
its 2 am and im going to sleep

atp I still have no idea who is with Rondo, unless its exactly Nanook

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:47 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:43 am nothing, they fiddle around belzy and porsche day 2, but thought they ended up on Alison, which wasn't the case
and on day 3 they couldn't vote belzy

and I got confused between a jump from day 3 to day 4, since the thread name never changed
its 2 am and im going to sleep

atp I still have no idea who is with Rondo, unless its exactly Nanook

you dont think its lily?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:50 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:47 am
Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:43 am nothing, they fiddle around belzy and porsche day 2, but thought they ended up on Alison, which wasn't the case
and on day 3 they couldn't vote belzy

and I got confused between a jump from day 3 to day 4, since the thread name never changed
its 2 am and im going to sleep

atp I still have no idea who is with Rondo, unless its exactly Nanook
you dont think its lily?

how can it be lily, did u not roleblock both Rondo and Lily? assuming there is 2 mafia left, and no other KP has gone off, its just doesn't really make sense to me

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:53 am**

rondo could be 3p, and lilys wolf. lily is the one who seems more desperate/agenda driven last couple of days

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:55 am**

Millium is my 100% ride or die towny. If they're wolf they've won here because I'mma protect them to my last breath.

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