The Syndicate

@Gavial Kyle didn't try to kill you. He tried to kill Long Con, knowing the jailkeep would keep LC alive.

Despite the loss, this was the most fun scum team I've been on in a while. Thanks for being a treat to plot with @MacDougall @Kylemii @falcon45ca @lost monkey

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:22 pm It's hard to say so in hindsight, but do you think I'm still yeeted when I was if Gavial didn't accidentally get a track on where I went (or rather where I didn't go)? I think I at least survive another day, which also would've increased our chances of winning.


Good game town! It's probably karma that a 3P finally accidentally assisted in a town win rather than stealing it from them

No?
I would have still pushed you (or maybe Kyle but probably not)
And Vulgard would have still cased you.

It was mainly Vulgard pushing you that got you yeeted not me.

If it wasn’t for Tim, Kyle would have won for mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:23 pm @Gavial Kyle didn't try to kill you. He tried to kill Long Con, knowing the jailkeep would keep LC alive.

I was 50/50 on that, or just plain holding the kill.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm If it wasn’t for Tim, Kyle would have won for mafia.

God bless those 3ps! People are too hard on them these days, just because a mean host basically set us up to lose to one. Or something like that.

I'll always be a staunch 3p fan and supporter.

Tim probably killed Kyle because they were obvious town despite being scum.
Legit Kyle’s visit to Marmot and Marmot scum made me go from a “sceptical” read on Kyle to an “Obvious town” one.

Kyle thought about holding the kill, but Sloonei reminded him that it's compulsory, and would be randomized if he didn't pick a target.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:23 pm @Gavial Kyle didn't try to kill you. He tried to kill Long Con, knowing the jailkeep would keep LC alive.

I was 50/50 on that, or just plain holding the kill.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm If it wasn’t for Tim, Kyle would have won for mafia.

God bless those 3ps! People are too hard on them these days, just because a mean host basically set us up to lose to one. Or something like that.

I'll always be a staunch 3p fan and supporter.

Imagine though if you actually were Exe with Vulgard as target.

I spent about 18 accumulative hours planning our the perfect permutation of actions my final night, while marmot and sloonei watched the tragedy play out, knowing I was already dead.

the plan was to target long con for the kill, and make it look like the kill failed or was passed on. Hopefully framing long con. I knew or at least assumed there were 2 tracks in play that night so I didn't want a visible kill that could clear long con, and two other people at once. (of course Tim killing anyone at all would have ruined that gambit but I didn't know that was going to be a thing)

beyond that.... I had the ability to remove myself from the poll for a phase still, or the ability to make my kill untrackable, which.... I think? was my best chance. I think the only way I could have created a favorable final 3 for myself would have been to somehow bait a track on myself and get 'caught' not killing while actually killing, and then having that person survive and hoping for the best

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:58 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:16 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:02 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:54 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:07 am I’m sorta not confident that falcon is a hot but a lot of things suggest it is so if he thinks he can convince me it’s not by entering the thread and doing towny things that’s be nice

If he does what is your alternative?

buck up and read mac's iso

Don't do it, it's a trap!!!

This has big “Im scum and pretty sure we’re gonna win this game” energy

I did get a red check on myself last night.

This was a joke based on this post and this post TSP had already made about Mac's ISO.

Also, this was correct. I discovered Daisy's race on Night 2. I glanced at the OP, saw only one Dunmer, and used LoMo's ability to reveal the rolecard of the Dunmer Conjurer.

But that was my role, so I received my own rolecard as a result.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:22 pm It's hard to say so in hindsight, but do you think I'm still yeeted when I was if Gavial didn't accidentally get a track on where I went (or rather where I didn't go)? I think I at least survive another day, which also would've increased our chances of winning.


Good game town! It's probably karma that a 3P finally accidentally assisted in a town win rather than stealing it from them

I feel bad about this. I was so excited for the cloak to work.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:29 pm Kyle thought about holding the kill, but Sloonei reminded him that it's compulsory, and would be randomized if he didn't pick a target.

@Gavial why did you watch me if you thought I was mafia?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm Despite the loss, this was the most fun scum team I've been on in a while. Thanks for being a treat to plot with @MacDougall @Kylemii @falcon45ca @lost monkey

Word homie! Scum Pals 4 Lyfe

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:58 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:16 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:02 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:54 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:07 am I’m sorta not confident that falcon is a hot but a lot of things suggest it is so if he thinks he can convince me it’s not by entering the thread and doing towny things that’s be nice

If he does what is your alternative?

buck up and read mac's iso

Don't do it, it's a trap!!!

This has big “Im scum and pretty sure we’re gonna win this game” energy

I did get a red check on myself last night.

This was a joke based on this post and this post TSP had already made about Mac's ISO.

Also, this was correct. I discovered Daisy's race on Night 2. I glanced at the OP, saw only one Dunmer, and used LoMo's ability to reveal the rolecard of the Dunmer Conjurer.

But that was my role, so I received my own rolecard as a result.

My favorite moment of the game tbh. It you could have seen the look on my face as I sent that result...

the Monday morning quarterback version of me winning would have me using hermaeus mora on Tim's merchant role, discovering his lie, and sending him a message using my shrine that did that, with the intention of collusion.

like a friendly "beep beep hello this is the mafia I know you're lying only kill TSP or I'll destroy you etc etc etc." lmao

MacDougall did an amazing job orchestrating yeets around me without getting me yeeted. Tim did a number on us by killing him, but that man really did work some wonders. Like I don't know how the fuck he managed to help keep me alive, look townie, and keep yeeting townies at the same time.

Kyle and Mac both deserve a lot of credit. Kyle for almost getting us the win, and Mac for hard carrying us through the early game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:01 pm FTR we never would have chopped kyle

maybe lol

I mean I was definitely set up really well, but the moment anyone asked for my night actions there was potential for disaster since I would have had to lie about almost all of them.

this was probably the most fun I've had as mafia, at least that I can remember. thank you sloonei and jay for a cool and fun game and I love you

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:23 pm @Gavial Kyle didn't try to kill you. He tried to kill Long Con, knowing the jailkeep would keep LC alive.

I was 50/50 on that, or just plain holding the kill.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:24 pm If it wasn’t for Tim, Kyle would have won for mafia.

God bless those 3ps! People are too hard on them these days, just because a mean host basically set us up to lose to one. Or something like that.

I'll always be a staunch 3p fan and supporter.

Imagine though if you actually were Exe with Vulgard as target.

That's where my Win Condition is to get him chopped, right? I would have played much differently if that were the case.

He was just so darn suspicious!

Good job gang. Well-played game by every faction. That's what you like to see.

I can’t forget to thank @JaggedJimmyJay. I asked for a hand with balance and handling deadlines, not even thinking about how moving parts were included in this game. I could not have managed this thing alone.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:18 pm My heart broke when Tim killed Kyle. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Tim did that with every intention of hitting a civilian. That completely changed the complexion of the endgame. Before that, I thought Kyle was going to win, or Kyle and Tim were going to win together.

I am amazed by this. Kyle and Tim outed themselves a few phases ago in an interaction and I had been staring angrily at the thread since because nobody else noticed (and couldn't notice, due to lack of history). Tim really shot Kyle thinking he was town?

Kyle outright lied, to an amusing extent, about Tim's wolf meta after just sweeping town with him in another game. When Tim didn't respond to it, I took it as outing that neither were town.

Happy to take part. It gave me yet another opportunity to rag on Oblivion.

Some meaningless statistical nuggets from this game:

Sloonei is now tied for 4th in number of games hosted on the site (with thellama73 and Dragon D. Luffy) at 12, and the town/mafia win totals are 6/6. Excellent.

Long Con is now only three wins short of tying Epignosis for the most ever. Epi's lead had once seemed insurmountable.

Scotty joins the 1,000 post club in a winning effort. A surprising number of people on that list lost their games.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:45 pm i only know tim on a basic level, is tim the type of player who would invent a role for himself?

what he's shared so far has seemed mostly townsided which makes me think he is as well, assuming truth. if this sort of role was in mafia hands i feel like the benefits of secrecy would outweigh the benefits of transparency, unless the purpose was specifically for making people say exactly that

I mean

really

really Kyle

REALLY

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:45 pm i only know tim on a basic level, is tim the type of player who would invent a role for himself?

what he's shared so far has seemed mostly townsided which makes me think he is as well, assuming truth. if this sort of role was in mafia hands i feel like the benefits of secrecy would outweigh the benefits of transparency, unless the purpose was specifically for making people say exactly that

I mean

really

really Kyle

REALLY

Tim the SK probably just let it be, then forgot?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:34 pm Kyle outright lied, to an amusing extent, about Tim's wolf meta after just sweeping town with him in another game. When Tim didn't respond to it, I took it as outing that neither were town.

this is incorrect

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:45 pm i only know tim on a basic level, is tim the type of player who would invent a role for himself?

what he's shared so far has seemed mostly townsided which makes me think he is as well, assuming truth. if this sort of role was in mafia hands i feel like the benefits of secrecy would outweigh the benefits of transparency, unless the purpose was specifically for making people say exactly that

I mean

really

really Kyle

REALLY

no part of this post is even a statement about Tim's meta lmao

Good job team!!

And good job Tim for being our town MVP, 2nd only to Kyle lol

By the end of day 2 I had directly led to 2 town deaths in Nanook and Qwags- just as efficient as mafia!
I also could have sped this along so much faster if I didn’t forget in my hubris that I only had 2 Vig shots. Up until the day after I died I thought I still had a shot for n7, thinking “3 times a charm!” Then I reread my role card. So dumb.

I would’ve claimed the shots d5, maybe setting up Tim as the 3P and speed things along. But no

Congrats to everyone on my team that had better reads and let me win by proxy!

unless the statement in question is whether i know Tim on more than just 'a basic level'

Good job team. Thanks wolves. Good shot Tim.

This is almost irrelevant with the volume in games these days, but this one came in as the 8th longest in Syndicate history, around 30 posts behind Talking Heads.

8th longest in site history, but the 5th longest in the last year.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:09 pm This is almost irrelevant with the volume in games these days, but this one came in as the 8th longest in Syndicate history, around 30 posts behind Talking Heads.

8th longest in site history, but the 5th longest in the last year.

Technically (technically) the thread is still going


So

We can make it the longest if we have the patience

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:09 pm This is almost irrelevant with the volume in games these days, but this one came in as the 8th longest in Syndicate history, around 30 posts behind Talking Heads.

8th longest in site history, but the 5th longest in the last year.

Technically (technically) the thread is still going


So

We can make it the longest if we have the patience

The official tally ends when the game ends, unfortunately.

And Tim, I was saying in spec chat if you had come clean about your role immediately after Kyle was shot i feel like you would have had a smoother time getting your win con.

Though maybe not.

Nah, you were just the real town vig and did well in that role

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm unless the statement in question is whether i know Tim on more than just 'a basic level'

"is tim the type of player to invent a role for himself?" he asks, after sweeping town based on tim inventing a role for himself

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm unless the statement in question is whether i know Tim on more than just 'a basic level'

"is tim the type of player to invent a role for himself?" he asks, after sweeping town based on tim inventing a role for himself

when did this happen

Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:09 pm This is almost irrelevant with the volume in games these days, but this one came in as the 8th longest in Syndicate history, around 30 posts behind Talking Heads.

8th longest in site history, but the 5th longest in the last year.

Technically (technically) the thread is still going


So

We can make it the longest if we have the patience

The official tally ends when the game ends, unfortunately.

Says who?

I say we topple the oligarchy and make our own rules!
Who’s with me?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

was that really your first 3p???

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm unless the statement in question is whether i know Tim on more than just 'a basic level'

"is tim the type of player to invent a role for himself?" he asks, after sweeping town based on tim inventing a role for himself

when did this happen

stardew valley hydra

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

You were so close bucko. We were rooting for you in spec chat

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm And Tim, I was saying in spec chat if you had come clean about your role immediately after Kyle was shot i feel like you would have had a smoother time getting your win con.

Though maybe not.

Nah, you were just the real town vig and did well in that role

To get my win con at that point I would have had to talk town into gathering at a shrine to charge up my mace and letting me kill someone. I think town would have said "or we just chop you and end it without risk." I know what I'd do as town there.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

you played it very well!! you almost won! actually you was town vig right? so u did win!

I'm super happy that all of you played, but I was really really happy that @Scotty signed up and crushed it this game after such a long time away. It was fantastic to see you back in action.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:15 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

was that really your first 3p???

Yeah it was. I was really excited!!! Had to actively tone down so people wouldn't think I was wolfing day one.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:16 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 pm Well, that was super fun. My first ever 3P rand and I think I did all there was for me to do...just misread the last wolf.

you played it very well!! you almost won! actually you was town vig right? so u did win!

LOL...yeah well I did almost as mush for the town as the town did put together...but there's no such thing as "moral victory." I had a narrow path and could not afford that one bad read.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:35 pm oh dang. tim could have won if we let him kill 1 more time.

@Timsup2nothin ♡♡♡

I'm sorry I voted to lynch u.

I would have let u kill me tonight. u should have said.

it was fun playing with u. it seemed like you chose to help town. thanks for choosing town.

This was sweet, but I would have had to recharge my mace.