The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:26 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else. And yes I am working on that post

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm I don't understand anything anyone is saying about me. Normally I love being talked about, but you guys have some dark imaginations. How does FunnyGurl even have an expectation about how I play?

because of something you've said in thread apologizing for not playing much but having something to give

I too am on mobile. no I didn't suggest that I know your playstyle

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:18 pm I need an explanation as to how I called out two townies and a scum bud. There has yet to be a single one and it's infuriating.

Would you like me to pull out the big imaginary book of mafia again?

Go ahead.

Well, there is a chapter or two dedicated to a rather nebulous concept that I have seen various facets of all referenced as "rule of three" or "rule of thirds". For a multitude of complementary reasons, a wolf will list three players (because groups of three are inherently more satisfying), one of which will be a scumbud, two of which will be townies. This scumtell mostly goes over my head on paper, but it is one of those things that you intuitively understand better than one could explain it to you, like WIFOM. It also refers to the tendency to put two thirds of one's scumbuds into their town reads, and one third into their null/scum reads. Googling this concept does not fetch me any suitable results, either. So, in this instance, you calling out three players specifically is slightly more likely to come from scum, and it is likely that exactly one of the three is a scumbud of yours given you are scum.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:38 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:26 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Would you consider voting for him?

I don't like Drago's tone here, reads like he's more focused on building wagons than anything else. And yes I am working on that post

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.

You don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.

because right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.

You don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.

because right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...

What kinds info?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:37 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Can you quote some posts that highlight this difference, for those of us who aren't familiar with them?

I would like to see these posts as well.

Why?

Because I always just play how I play, I don't try to play differently, or the same, I just do whatever comes to mind. I thought I'd see what Drago was saying about you held up, but it was really just a trap he was setting, and I was the idiot who fell for it. After I said I don't dance. Shameful.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm lc you have vote on turnip head. would you consider voting anyone else atm? who's catching your fancy?

gotta town circle forming? what do you think about me?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:37 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Can you quote some posts that highlight this difference, for those of us who aren't familiar with them?

I would like to see these posts as well.

Why?

Because I always just play how I play, I don't try to play differently, or the same, I just do whatever comes to mind. I thought I'd see what Drago was saying about you held up, but it was really just a trap he was setting, and I was the idiot who fell for it. After I said I don't dance. Shameful.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm lc you have vote on turnip head. would you consider voting anyone else atm? who's catching your fancy?

gotta town circle forming? what do you think about me?

I dunno. I'm going out for a bit.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm lc you have vote on turnip head. would you consider voting anyone else atm? who's catching your fancy?

gotta town circle forming? what do you think about me?

I dunno. I'm going out for a bit.

ight, see you later

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.

You don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.

because right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...

What kinds info?

like, what is leetics alignment? what about ted? what about sloonei who likes leetic? who will tsp spar with in thread?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pm mikey am I still null to you? how do you even try reading me lol

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:55 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.

You don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.

because right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...

What kinds info?

like, what is leetics alignment? what about ted? what about sloonei who likes leetic? who will tsp spar with in thread?

Why do you need the first 3 in order to make a read on tsp?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:56 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:52 pm mikey am I still null to you? how do you even try reading me lol

All I know is, I am afraid of your wolf game xD
I am still thinking about your points with how you read me. You are clearly capable of forming depthful reads as scum, so I am looking at your more shallow reads and wondering if this is scum funnygurl, but struggling to produce depthful content, or town funnygurl, who is dropping tidbits while just taking a more passive role? At this point, I don't see agenda behind your shallow reads, so they are probably more towny than not. But I can't help but be afraid of the bamboozle.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:18 pm I need an explanation as to how I called out two townies and a scum bud. There has yet to be a single one and it's infuriating.

Would you like me to pull out the big imaginary book of mafia again?

Go ahead.

Well, there is a chapter or two dedicated to a rather nebulous concept that I have seen various facets of all referenced as "rule of three" or "rule of thirds". For a multitude of complementary reasons, a wolf will list three players (because groups of three are inherently more satisfying), one of which will be a scumbud, two of which will be townies. This scumtell mostly goes over my head on paper, but it is one of those things that you intuitively understand better than one could explain it to you, like WIFOM. It also refers to the tendency to put two thirds of one's scumbuds into their town reads, and one third into their null/scum reads. Googling this concept does not fetch me any suitable results, either. So, in this instance, you calling out three players specifically is slightly more likely to come from scum, and it is likely that exactly one of the three is a scumbud of yours given you are scum.

This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:00 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:55 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.

You don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.

because right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...

What kinds info?

like, what is leetics alignment? what about ted? what about sloonei who likes leetic? who will tsp spar with in thread?

Why do you need the first 3 in order to make a read on tsp?

associations are important when making reads for me. tsp is voting for leetic. ted and leetic had a little battle and dont look like wolf buddies. sloonei is town reading who tsp is voting for and started doing so pretty early

none of these could definitively solve tsp, but it helps

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:18 pm I need an explanation as to how I called out two townies and a scum bud. There has yet to be a single one and it's infuriating.

Would you like me to pull out the big imaginary book of mafia again?

Go ahead.

Well, there is a chapter or two dedicated to a rather nebulous concept that I have seen various facets of all referenced as "rule of three" or "rule of thirds". For a multitude of complementary reasons, a wolf will list three players (because groups of three are inherently more satisfying), one of which will be a scumbud, two of which will be townies. This scumtell mostly goes over my head on paper, but it is one of those things that you intuitively understand better than one could explain it to you, like WIFOM. It also refers to the tendency to put two thirds of one's scumbuds into their town reads, and one third into their null/scum reads. Googling this concept does not fetch me any suitable results, either. So, in this instance, you calling out three players specifically is slightly more likely to come from scum, and it is likely that exactly one of the three is a scumbud of yours given you are scum.

This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

Thou doth protest too much

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

I need an explanation for why I look an upset scum instead of an upset townie.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

Attempting to dismantle an established scumtell does not seem a towny-driven method to escape the noose, in my opinion. I find it interesting that both times I have brought up established scumtells, you have resorted to attacking the legitimacy of the scumtell itself, anyway.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

It is because you three are on vanity wagons currently, Dragomir has already said this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:12 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

Attempting to dismantle an established scumtell does not seem a towny-driven method to escape the noose, in my opinion. I find it interesting that both times I have brought up established scumtells, you have resorted to attacking the legitimacy of the scumtell itself, anyway.

Aight so what else you got going on? Any other suspects? Who else do you town read?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

Attempting to dismantle an established scumtell does not seem a towny-driven method to escape the noose, in my opinion. I find it interesting that both times I have brought up established scumtells, you have resorted to attacking the legitimacy of the scumtell itself, anyway.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:19 pmFunnygurl is right on Long Con, they seem to be promising quite a bit and giving quite little.

Turnip Head claims to have a solid meta read on Long Con and also does not like them.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm I still don’t care about supposed scum tells. What did Dragomir do and why did he do it?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm tr me mikey. DO IT

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm I still don’t care about supposed scum tells. What did Dragomir do and why did he do it?

I believe Dragomir was bringing up multiple names and looking for either resistance or support, to help push the EOD to somewhere they were more comfortable with as scum. It seems they have a pattern of asking "who would vote for this player? Would you vote for this player?" I can see a townie trying to shake things up near EOD if they feel that scum are controlling the narrative, but I have not seen hints from Dragomir to suggest that they believe this could be the case. It really does just look like they are trying to find a safe lynch.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

I need an explanation for why I look an upset scum instead of an upset townie.

An upset town tends to not need to make a case that the logic and reason being used is incorrect, just that it is being incorrectly applied in the circumstances. Upset scum will make silly statements like "this is the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen" because you have a much more significant self preservation requirement in this game than a random villager would.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm I still don’t care about supposed scum tells. What did Dragomir do and why did he do it?

I believe Dragomir was bringing up multiple names and looking for either resistance or support, to help push the EOD to somewhere they were more comfortable with as scum. It seems they have a pattern of asking "who would vote for this player? Would you vote for this player?" I can see a townie trying to shake things up near EOD if they feel that scum are controlling the narrative, but I have not seen hints from Dragomir to suggest that they believe this could be the case. It really does just look like they are trying to find a safe lynch.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

Dude, I literally told you I made an explanation for this earlier, and I told you to go look for it. You refused. Also, I made the same explanation in the massive post you I made against ts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

I need an explanation for why I look an upset scum instead of an upset townie.

An upset town tends to not need to make a case that the logic and reason being used is incorrect, just that it is being incorrectly applied in the circumstances. Upset scum will make silly statements like "this is the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen" because you have a much more significant self preservation requirement in this game than a random villager would.

Ok, this makes sense. But honestly, I don't really give a shit about how an upset town doesn't need to do that or what an upset scum says. I will speak my mind. Not gonna let general mafia rules stop me.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

Attempting to dismantle an established scumtell does not seem a towny-driven method to escape the noose, in my opinion. I find it interesting that both times I have brought up established scumtells, you have resorted to attacking the legitimacy of the scumtell itself, anyway.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:29 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:23 pm I still don’t care about supposed scum tells. What did Dragomir do and why did he do it?

I believe Dragomir was bringing up multiple names and looking for either resistance or support, to help push the EOD to somewhere they were more comfortable with as scum. It seems they have a pattern of asking "who would vote for this player? Would you vote for this player?" I can see a townie trying to shake things up near EOD if they feel that scum are controlling the narrative, but I have not seen hints from Dragomir to suggest that they believe this could be the case. It really does just look like they are trying to find a safe lynch.

I don’t object.

I an still unsure what to do with Drago. He has been mislynched for silly things in the past, but that doesn’t absolve him of anything here.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

why

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:03 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:00 pm Turnip Head is town.

I'm having trouble seeing your world building. You have quite the townreads, what's the PoE?

Ted is mafia.