The Syndicate

I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:28 am Gang up on Belzy y'a~ll!!!!

Gtfooh

This is too dirty for my taste

Trying to get someone you think is bad eliminated is the point of this game.

I’m not ganging up on you. But I’m a zillion percent sure you’re bad. I’m sorry for the Rand. I thought you were town, it’s bad luck I saw you moving your vote around like that.

Well this is all mildly spicy.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:34 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:28 am Gang up on Belzy y'a~ll!!!!

Gtfooh

This is too dirty for my taste

Trying to get someone you think is bad eliminated is the point of this game.

I’m not ganging up on you. But I’m a zillion percent sure you’re bad. I’m sorry for the Rand. I thought you were town, it’s bad luck I saw you moving your vote around like that.

Answer my misclick Q! Because you are incorrect!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone called this town/town yet? Can I be the first?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

I stopped reading things closely because it felt like the same talking points were being repeated.

Both SVS and Belzy seem stubbornly certain in their interpretation of events. Words and actions aside, that attitude seems town to me.

Where's falcon when you need him?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:40 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

I care more about this than the outcome of all games combined, and SVS withholding.

SVS is* withholding

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:42 am Where's falcon when you need him?

Wasted @ a festival

He said Sunday he'd be back. It's Tuesday!

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:40 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Misclick*

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:48 am He said Sunday he'd be back. It's Tuesday!

Is it sad my first response was “god damn. That must have been a good festival”

Okay, copy paste mentions fail. I was overdoing it anyways

I need SVS to answer my most important Q of all, which is as straight forward as it can be. SVS stays vague and is withholding answering time after time. I need to hear the answer very badly.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:24 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:44 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:28 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:25 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:24 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:20 pm

Okay how about because my early snap reads win games when people actually listen to them instead of acting like I can't read a game of mafia

The sass isn't helpful at this point.

Good news: your wagon is gone! Come rejoin the discussion with us.

How do you feel about SVS, Seanzie, and fingersplints? They (and Belzy) are emerging as consensus town (caveat, of course, is that it's only D1).

Spending a lot of time talking about “consensus town”

I actually don't like that term. But it's less clunky than 'the people no one wants to vote right now'.

But why focus on those people at all?
It’s day 1. I’m sure there are better things to do than to scrutinise those who most people are ok with right now.

How do you feel about falcon?

Epi?

So why ask someone about Falcon, the most MIA/AFK player of d1? The thread also decided not to lynch Falcon d1 for that reason.

Also you dodged the question about Epi
Noted

Still ignoring the question about epi

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:57 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:24 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:44 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:28 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:25 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:24 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm
The sass isn't helpful at this point.

Good news: your wagon is gone! Come rejoin the discussion with us.

How do you feel about SVS, Seanzie, and fingersplints? They (and Belzy) are emerging as consensus town (caveat, of course, is that it's only D1).

Spending a lot of time talking about “consensus town”

I actually don't like that term. But it's less clunky than 'the people no one wants to vote right now'.

But why focus on those people at all?
It’s day 1. I’m sure there are better things to do than to scrutinise those who most people are ok with right now.

How do you feel about falcon?

Epi?

So why ask someone about Falcon, the most MIA/AFK player of d1? The thread also decided not to lynch Falcon d1 for that reason.

Also you dodged the question about Epi
Noted

Still ignoring the question about epi

I did not dodge it. What do you want?

I did not notice your post even lol. So childish to say i am ignoring it.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am Voting belzy for that nonsense

Lmfaooooo

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:17 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:13 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:36 am Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

So SVS says Thunal would not kill Kate
And you now say that

You all know me less, so you cannot say it about me

Sucks to be an outstander

I town read you and think this entire thing is ridiculous if that helps at all... it probably doesn't

Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:59 am I did not notice your post even lol. So childish to say i am ignoring it.

I asked you a question. You did not answer it. Then you call me childish for bringing up that you didn’t answer. Wow

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:40 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

@S~V~S
@S~V~S

I'm writing a post and pulling quotes with time stamps, i said I had to walk my dog, too. I have half an hour before work.

LOL

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:00 pm I was hoping my vote on Wilg did something, but since my vote Wilg has not posted anymore.

Robyn 4 and Ted 3 are still leading.

(I'm still pulling quotes for the post in the other window, and ran into this)

This strikes me cause one of my town Wilgy tells is that no matter how bizarrely he's posting, if you vote for him when he's town, he makes a reproachful post at you. And as you say, you voted for him some time before this, and crickets. Hrm.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:16 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:14 pm It would make sense i vote for Robyn to double the gap to Thunal, which i will if wagons are not changing. Robyn is however not my fave lynch, but def in my poe.

I'm considering changing my vote to Wilgy.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:17 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:16 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:14 pm It would make sense i vote for Robyn to double the gap to Thunal, which i will if wagons are not changing. Robyn is however not my fave lynch, but def in my poe.

I'm considering changing my vote to Wilgy.

CFD ftw

Actually, this is when I started watching the poll.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:33 am I still want to hear from SVS if it is about a single 3 second lasting mislick hours before eod1

No, it wasn't. And you said I was lying, so I thought you were denying it even happened? I had literally 17 pings from you this AM, haven't read all of them yet.

OK. I started watching the poll about here:

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:18 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

As said previously. I was worried about a Wilgy flashwagon. When I looked at the poll first time Belzy (although I am addressing you, Belzy, I will refer to you by name so it doesn't get confusing) had already voted for Wilgy, and then Thunal did. I refreshed the poll every 2-3 minutes or so until the last half hour or so when it had settled down somewhat.

This vote of Thunals surprised me, since iirc it put her into a tie with Robyn. Then she voted for Robyn some half an hour later.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:40 pm [VOTE: robyn] aubergine

After Thunal moved off Wilgy, that was when Belzy moved to Thunal.

At this stage I was mostly watching Robyns train, once it looked like the flashwagon on Wilgy wasn't going to materialize.

In that 6 minute span, Belzys vote stayed on Thunal for at least one tick, so maybe 2-3 minutes. It's possible it stayed on Thunal the entire time, but I can't say that for sure; I only actively noticed it once. It could be possible that she moved it again and I missed it, but like I said I was keeping a pretty close eye on what votes were moving.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:46 pm [VOTE: robyn] aubergine

After Belzy voted, Wilgy voted for Thunal. Then Seanzie voted for Robyn. Then Wilgy voted for Robyn. Hmm. That Wilgy Thunal vote.

Anyhow, to the best of my recollection, the vote was on Thunal for at least 2-3 minutes. Not 3 seconds.

And this is, IMO, where Belzy set herself up for a Thunal vote after Kate died.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:05 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:03 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:01 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:57 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:52 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:46 pm *sips tea in [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let me try communicating.

For some reason it is hard to create a real wagon on Wilg.

It is. I'm pretty sure it's just going to be robyn/me wagons today but I think he very well could be mafia.

I am not sure if I think Wilg is wolf or if I want Wilg to be wolf, but I do know I want to lynch Wilg and is in my poe.

1 hr left. So robyn vs you seems most likely.

Tbh i'm not sure how much of it is ego but I think I've been pretty towny today and I don't think there's a pure 4 vote wagon on me.

Been a while we played together. You do remember me of your townplay. You are very good, so I won't exclude deep wolving, but I don't see a reason to think this rn.

But yeah, having just wolfed with Thunal, there's no fucking way she kills Kate here. Zero.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:43 am SVS is* withholding

SVS got out of bed less than an hour before you posted this, and posted FROM bed. Take a deep breath.

40 minutes before you posted this "SVS is witholding" post this, I said I was in bed, and had to walk my dog. Then I wanted to pull quotes with time stamps to give you a complete and accurate answer.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:03 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:26 pm I don't actually think SVS lied that Belzy sniped me, but I want to make sure. Did anyone else see Belzy vote me in the poll?

It is a lie tho. You were there eod1. And why don't talk with me about it?

It is absolutely 100% not a lie.

Like I said last night, I swear it on my dog, which is ultra srs for me.

You can absolutely misconstrue anything else I said from here till Christmas, I saw what I saw.

Lol I’m still in bed, gotta get up walk dog, bbl.

In any case, I need to go get ready for work. Will try to be in here as much as possible, but it's the end of month week, not sure how possible that is.

Hasta la vista happy Mafia people.

Also that right there is the post where Belzy said I LIED about seeing her vote. Now she's saying it was a 3 second misvote. Okay.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Doesn’t make you right on this. We’re in that everything I say, you disagree with loop we always get in.

You do you, Zenon. I expect you to disagree with me. It’s NAI at this point.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:06 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:23 pm All righty then.

Gonna start with sheeping Kate; she was killed for a reason.

I don't have alot of screen time tonight, but will tomorrow and the next day.


I still feel that Thunal was town, and Belzy was pocketing her. I reread the EOD, and Thunal felt very sincere to me.

Belzy did not.

She was trying to Turbo Wilgy, and during the last few minutes, while her and Thunal were both posting, she moved her vote around alot. First it was on Wilgy, then she moved it to *Thunal* before ending on Robyn, and she didn't post any of the changes.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine and not planning on changing it. Belzy was trying to set Thunal up, imo.

^^ And then the very next post is today ^^

A total shift. After softing Thunal, subtle co-lynching Robyn, now putting on a whole something else.

Starts off saying to sheep Kate. Def potential right here SVS killed off Kate to use her d1 scumreads against town.

Says to still find Thunal. Who was a null read on d1. Says Belzy pockets Thunal. Belzy was a townread on d1. SVS even took Belzy out of POE.

Says Belzy tried to turbo Wilg. If SVS thinks Thunal is town and Robyn flipped town, why is it a bad look on Belzy to try to turbo Wilg? Also knowing Belzy townread Thunal d1, and only voted Robyn by lack of a better wagon.

Says Belzy changes votes a lot, and didn't post any of these changes. Which i 100% know is a lie. I posted them all minus 1(!) misclick which I corrected within seconds. I never voted Thunal bar 3 accidental seconds. So SVS using this as a big part of the case on Belzy, being false about not posting multiple vote changes, plus the complete change of heart, and using Kate's death to start d2 right off with a case on a former townread, based (partly or mostly) on lies is very high frame/wolf equity.

Who were you meaning to vote for when you misclicked me? I'm not even close to Wilgy or robyn in the poll.

The only reasonable vote option near me would be Ted and Belzy never voted Ted or expressed intent to vote Ted near EoD except for including him in a list of people she could vote.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am Voting belzy for that nonsense

So it is nonsense I say that about SVS whom I caught lying? Only i know what i did every second, so i understand i am the one who knows for sure SVS is lying,,but your reason to vote for me looks just as bad as your eod1. So highly noted.

If I had misclicked someone in the poll and gotten suspected for it, this would not be my reaction at all. I would immediately say it was a misclick and I definitely wouldn't accuse the person who called it out of lying. There's no real evaluation of SVS at all, and it strongly feels Belzy is only suspecting SVS because she felt cornered and had to.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

im fine with voting wilgy / belzy today

will see what falcon does

WWfalconD

Dear god I actually went and re-read everything since the Day started and I still found my eyes glazing over.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:37 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am Voting belzy for that nonsense

So it is nonsense I say that about SVS whom I caught lying? Only i know what i did every second, so i understand i am the one who knows for sure SVS is lying,,but your reason to vote for me looks just as bad as your eod1. So highly noted.

If I had misclicked someone in the poll and gotten suspected for it, this would not be my reaction at all. I would immediately say it was a misclick and I definitely wouldn't accuse the person who called it out of lying. There's no real evaluation of SVS at all, and it strongly feels Belzy is only suspecting SVS because she felt cornered and had to.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Despite earlier saying it could be t/t, this is my hangup on Belzy right now too.

I think a lot of the details from both SVS and Belzy actually don't contradict. Like Belzy says 3 seconds, SVS says 3 minutes...we all do the sort of thing where we exaggerate a bit to make a point, and I could easily see the truth of the timing being somewhere in the middle. Or Belzy was saying it was a couple hours before EoD, and SVS' posts were about 1h 30m ish before EoD. That also seems right, factoring in people's perceptions of time and whatnot.

I can quite easily believe SVS saw what she saw. And I can easily believe Belzy misclicked. But Belzy's immediate strong reaction to turn this into a thunderdome instead of just explaining it away...yeah, that could be a wolfy attempt to fight back. Like it could still be town specifically for Belzy (don't know her meta) but I'm not sure it's how most people react if town.

People who win the award for most 'commenting on the Thing without getting entangled in the Thing' during this whole SVS/Belzy Thing: Ted and Lime Coke.

Belzy - Posts
DrWilgy - Posts
Epignosis - Posts
falcon45ca - Posts
fingersplints - Posts
Kate - Posts
Lime Coke - Posts
Master Radishes - Posts
robyn - Posts
Seanzie - Posts
S~V~S - Posts
tedxtr - Posts
Thunal33 - Posts
Zenon - Posts

Apologies for the ones I've inevitably screwed up.

(Also just to note the posts are in reverse order. Can't remember if there's a way to flip them.)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:07 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

I to love rufus

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:09 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Doesn’t make you right on this. We’re in that everything I say, you disagree with loop we always get in.

You do you, Zenon. I expect you to disagree with me. It’s NAI at this point.

Thing is...I am right

GGs town

Does anybody remember laughter?




What's happening peeps, who's got Cliff Notes?

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:53 amGGs town

Why the sassy attitude?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:42 am Where's falcon when you need him?

Ask and ye shall receive

*Wiggles in sass*