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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Porscha
Schia
Michelle
DZ
Hally
Neon
ilario
Jack
Wilfy
Manny
Nook
IAWY
pyxxy
Ricochet
That should be the living players
Schia
Michelle
DZ
Hally
Neon
ilario
Jack
Wilfy
Manny
Nook
IAWY
pyxxy
Ricochet
That should be the living players
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658
Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658
Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945
Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945
Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
CW only has Neon, ilario as potential players but Wilgy is basically mech confirmed a player, and so there's really no information to be gained here.Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:36 pm Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658
Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
HK had 3 votes + JackLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 pm Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945
Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)
Santy had at most 2 votes, so no info to be gained here
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 3 Vote Count
SoD: #3945 EoD: #5097
Not Voting (10): MacDougall (13), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)
drwilgy (6): SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), EnderWiggin (37), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
vivax (3): DeeZees (30), santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20), katze (74)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
ran (1): DrWilgy (21)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (22)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (9)
Wilgy has: 2 votes + ilario + Jack
Ran has: 1 vote + Porscha + Neon
Therefore if both ilario and Jack are NPCs then there's also an NPC among Porscha/Neon
Which leaves room for only 2 more NPCs which means Manny would have to be a PC
So assuming Manny and Me are NPCs, that means that there's exactly 1 NPC among Ilario and Jack and Porscha + Neon are both confirmed players.
Currently up to
Basically mech confirmed players:
Michelle
Wilgy
Porscha
Neon
NPCs:
Lumi
Manny
At least one of DZ/pyxxy
Exactly one of ilario/Jack
TBD:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
SoD: #3945 EoD: #5097
Not Voting (10): MacDougall (13), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)
drwilgy (6): SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), EnderWiggin (37), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
vivax (3): DeeZees (30), santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20), katze (74)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
ran (1): DrWilgy (21)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (22)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (9)
Wilgy has: 2 votes + ilario + Jack
Ran has: 1 vote + Porscha + Neon
Therefore if both ilario and Jack are NPCs then there's also an NPC among Porscha/Neon
Which leaves room for only 2 more NPCs which means Manny would have to be a PC
So assuming Manny and Me are NPCs, that means that there's exactly 1 NPC among Ilario and Jack and Porscha + Neon are both confirmed players.
Currently up to
Basically mech confirmed players:
Michelle
Wilgy
Porscha
Neon
NPCs:
Lumi
Manny
At least one of DZ/pyxxy
Exactly one of ilario/Jack
TBD:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5097 EoD: #5825
Not Voting (7): MacDougall (15), Lumi (32), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1), Schiavetto (5), Marmot (1)
lilypetal (5): santygrass (82), nutella (38), Michelle (41), DeeZees (26), Hally (57)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9), Lilypetal (57), EnderWiggin (36)
enderwiggin (3): Neon (50), ilario (6), Vivax (57)
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005 (23), DrWilgy (37)
manny (1): Manny (39)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (12)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (18)
schiavetto (1): pyxxy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)
ricochet (1): sprityo (5)
Lily has:
3 votes + DZ + Hally
Neon has: 3 votes
Means that there is guaranteed at least one PC among DZ and Hally
Doesn't actually tell us that much
SoD: #5097 EoD: #5825
Not Voting (7): MacDougall (15), Lumi (32), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1), Schiavetto (5), Marmot (1)
lilypetal (5): santygrass (82), nutella (38), Michelle (41), DeeZees (26), Hally (57)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9), Lilypetal (57), EnderWiggin (36)
enderwiggin (3): Neon (50), ilario (6), Vivax (57)
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005 (23), DrWilgy (37)
manny (1): Manny (39)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (12)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (18)
schiavetto (1): pyxxy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)
ricochet (1): sprityo (5)
Lily has:
3 votes + DZ + Hally
Neon has: 3 votes
Means that there is guaranteed at least one PC among DZ and Hally
Doesn't actually tell us that much
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ya, not much more info to be gained
I think the useful info is:
These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah
The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario
At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
I think its time to murderize schia
I think the useful info is:
These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah
The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario
At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
I think its time to murderize schia
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%
also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia
i think he checked neon and illario as players though
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i’m not sure why he didn’t list all his checks since he was open claiming
seems like questionable PR play
seems like questionable PR play
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
also, while we’re on that subject, if illario actually never used his deleter that’s really ??? too
dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol
dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@HallyLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained
I think the useful info is:
These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah
The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario
At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
I think its time to murderize schia
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes
@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy
Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.
Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.
Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Rather than bagging on PRs Seanzie and ilario, you should vote Schia B)
Let the late Seanzie rest in peace
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
6v3 -> 4v3
Whereas 7v3 -> 5v3
By sleeping you get more info and one less person to potentially ML
There are sometimes exceptions, but this is not one of them
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
yeah, one of schia/rico is very likely a wolfLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained
I think the useful info is:
These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah
The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario
At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
I think its time to murderize schia
also i’m confirmed player, seanzie said he checked me
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purgeLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pmTown is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
we’re not killing schia today, just turbo them tomorrow if they’re still alive
i want as many active villagers alive to find and kill the wolves who are actual threats
schia will resolved by the purge, they’re not a threat
i want as many active villagers alive to find and kill the wolves who are actual threats
schia will resolved by the purge, they’re not a threat
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purgeLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pmTown is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
*cough cough* it’s Schia *cough cough*
[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
Schia made a blatant wolf move by posting six times ant EoD and acknowledging that they were posting a sixth time in said sixth post. Them being a minposter who comes in and makes five posts and bails had been a topic that came up several times yesterday, so for Schia to intentionally and self-awarely point it out and go above that shows that either they were actively lurking the thread (in which case, why no play game?), or someone told them in scumchat that it was getting brought up
The fact that they’re now openwolfing and nobody seems to care that they’re obviously a player is really super dang frustrating
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ily Lumi, at least someone kinda understandsLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm@HallyLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained
I think the useful info is:
These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah
The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario
At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY
I think its time to murderize schia
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy
Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.
Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.
Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
If the game is 5v3 do you think town should sleep or should they try to find the wolf?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than SchiaHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbersLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pmDo you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purgeLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pmTown is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmi think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbersLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pmDo you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purgeLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pmTown is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Neon almost dying and then completely falling under the radar afterwards while not really doing anything actively townie is problematic
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Chopping town~Neon here is nearly game losing!
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solversInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmWe’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than SchiaHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolfLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pmYou're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmi think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbersLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pmDo you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purgeLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pmTown is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
As stated yesterdayHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:13 pmi want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solversInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmWe’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than SchiaHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness
Just because Schia isn’t posting ITT doesn’t automatically mean that they’re somehow not the loudest voice in mafia chat if they are a wolf. Any wolf is a threat to us, and basically agreeing that you think Schia is a wolf but pushing back on voting them out to instead vote someone who’s more prominent in the thread is baffling at best, anti-townie at mid, and actively scummy at worst
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Yes, true, this has been a hard game for a lot of town to get into though, that is empirically true just by virtue of looking at the playerlist still having a ton of people that have been struggling to get into the game.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm Neon almost dying and then completely falling under the radar afterwards while not really doing anything actively townie is problematic
Maybe Neon is a wolf, I don't know! I've hardly read the game myself! I don't think I've even read more than a dozen of Neon's posts!
But I'm an NPC who can say whatever I want without any consequences and I think that Neon has to be >>rand wolf to warrant a chop there today
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Who do you want to vote out then Hally? Where’s your head at atm?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 pmi didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolfLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pmYou're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmi think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbersLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pmDo you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Too many of our best solvers in this game were NPCs who eventually stopped caring, and sitting back as town players and letting the NPCs do all the work is actively working against us now
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
EBWOPInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:19 pm Too many of our best solvers in this game were NPCs who eventually stopped caring and/or got chopped/NKed, and sitting back as town players and letting the NPCs do all the work is actively working against us now
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i don’t see how it matters either way, regardless wolves need two mislunches
if we mislunch v!neon after we kill w!schia it’s the same difference as mislunching neon before we kill schia
the order is irrelevant unless you think neon (or whoever else we kill) would be cleared by a schia wolf flip
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i’ll bet you 1 billion dollars that schia is not masterminding in wolf chatInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:16 pmAs stated yesterdayHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:13 pmi want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solversInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmWe’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than SchiaHally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get
and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway
zero upside
Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness
Just because Schia isn’t posting ITT doesn’t automatically mean that they’re somehow not the loudest voice in mafia chat if they are a wolf. Any wolf is a threat to us, and basically agreeing that you think Schia is a wolf but pushing back on voting them out to instead vote someone who’s more prominent in the thread is baffling at best, anti-townie at mid, and actively scummy at worst
that’s just silly
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
read my posts and you’ll find outInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:17 pmWho do you want to vote out then Hally? Where’s your head at atm?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 pmi didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolfLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pmYou're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pmi think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbersLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pmDo you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pmno, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge
if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves
there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
here is my position, just so it’s crystal clear
1) i think wilgy and michelle are likely to be villagers who have been solving well
2) i’d like myself and whichever of wilgy/michelle are villagers to be alive to help lunch at least one of the wolves who aren’t min posting because town is behind enough that we need all the help we can get to find and kill the tougher wolves
3) schia could absolutely be a wolf! and in fact, i think that’s probably the case all things considered, but if they are a wolf they’re a free pelt that we can get any day regardless of who is alive. the only upside to lunching them today as opposed to next day would be if we think their wolf flip would clear others, which i’m open to arguments for.
4) if schia is an NPC, there’s no upside to lunching them over waiting for them to be purged and we can always simply sleep as normal in mylo if we want
tell me which of these things is wrong
1) i think wilgy and michelle are likely to be villagers who have been solving well
2) i’d like myself and whichever of wilgy/michelle are villagers to be alive to help lunch at least one of the wolves who aren’t min posting because town is behind enough that we need all the help we can get to find and kill the tougher wolves
3) schia could absolutely be a wolf! and in fact, i think that’s probably the case all things considered, but if they are a wolf they’re a free pelt that we can get any day regardless of who is alive. the only upside to lunching them today as opposed to next day would be if we think their wolf flip would clear others, which i’m open to arguments for.
4) if schia is an NPC, there’s no upside to lunching them over waiting for them to be purged and we can always simply sleep as normal in mylo if we want
tell me which of these things is wrong
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Lumi @Inawordyes who do you think is most likely to be a wolf besides schia?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
and is there anyone you think isn’t a wolf with schia?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@ilario can you iso dz and tell me what you think? it’s not long
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I was writing a mathematical proof to show that the only time you should not chop Schia today is if at least one of the following two are true:
1) Schia is town and will somehow townclear themselves and never be ML'd
2) If the slot town chops today is a player, then [the probability of that player being a wolf] is greater than [the probability of hitting a wolf post-NPC purge]
And since they are both obviously not true - anyone advocating to not chop Schia today is actually just wolfsiding on average.
But then I realized I'm an NPC and shouldn't be wasting any more of my time on this lmao
If you want to play suboptimally, be my guest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1) Schia is town and will somehow townclear themselves and never be ML'd
2) If the slot town chops today is a player, then [the probability of that player being a wolf] is greater than [the probability of hitting a wolf post-NPC purge]
And since they are both obviously not true - anyone advocating to not chop Schia today is actually just wolfsiding on average.
But then I realized I'm an NPC and shouldn't be wasting any more of my time on this lmao
If you want to play suboptimally, be my guest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
By all means, people should still be solving today, and it shouldn't just devolve into an auto-day.
But even if the day where Schia gets chopped is doomed to be an autopilot day, wouldn't it be better that wasted day were before the purge, rather than after it when there's sudden clarity?
Like it just feels like a huge waste to make Day 8 be the turbo Schia day when you have the chance to get that wasted day out of the way without messing up your parity!
But even if the day where Schia gets chopped is doomed to be an autopilot day, wouldn't it be better that wasted day were before the purge, rather than after it when there's sudden clarity?
Like it just feels like a huge waste to make Day 8 be the turbo Schia day when you have the chance to get that wasted day out of the way without messing up your parity!
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i don’t think the bolded matters because i think it’s clear who almost every player is and the only “clarity” we will get post-purge is which of rico/schia is the wolf that’s been larping as an NPCLumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:33 pm By all means, people should still be solving today, and it shouldn't just devolve into an auto-day.
But even if the day where Schia gets chopped is doomed to be an autopilot day, wouldn't it be better that wasted day were before the purge, rather than after it when there's sudden clarity?
Like it just feels like a huge waste to make Day 8 be the turbo Schia day when you have the chance to get that wasted day out of the way without messing up your parity!
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