Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[pyxxy]

I'm an NPC and bad at this game so grain of salt but

Vivax on Neon w/ chosen quotes:
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Neon probs player, tentatively town on a quick skim. Porscha maybe NPC but likely town if PC.
Ranmilia wagon looks pure mostly.

Quite possibly a bunch of scum among nonvoters but phoneplaying so it‘ll be a slow chore to look further and it‘s killing my motivation (or WIM as you fancily call it)

SK, is it true, are you a mason?

I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh?

If you're an NPC, then who even cares

If wolves want to join the masonry in order to protect us defenseless NPCs with their vote power, then who am I to judge as long as they renounce their PC ways and pursue the path of NPCism

Out of principle I don't negotiate with wolves as either alignment

I see you are not yet ready to pursue the true path of NPCism and give up all your worldly alignment-concerned ways.

The true path of NPCism doesn't see town or wolf, we just see people for who they are, not what they were randed.

Why shackle yourselves to that limited perception of binary alignment?

You might be right about that. I do feel like I'm not ready to be a true NPC sometimes.

The thing is... I have a friend out there. You wouldn't know them. But I'm pretty sure they are a player. And I think they'd appreciate if I kept my player equity for a bit longer, y'know?

We might not see the differences between our alignment, but they do, and I choose to respect their beliefs. And maybe that way, we can reach a better understanding between NPCs and Players.

This post is worded mighty harmlessly. Sounds like something Merkel would say tbh (or many others who don't try to stick their neck out but somehow it reminded me of her). Phrases and platitudes.
Makes SK yeetable for me today.

What if I deleted TSP and they weren't the mafia kill?

Anyways

[VOTE: Katze] aubergine

i rly cant imagine who would kill tsp at all lmao

but it doesnt obviously rule out pyxxy in my mind bc if pyxxy wolf i doubt hes shotcalling nks

It was me

Got a deleter claim here. Ender wants to yeet it. Quite bold from Ender or indirect CC from town ender, but then Neon could be NPC or scum which seems rather unlikely to me considering the boldness. Maybe Ender has other reasons? He's free to expound on them I guess.
Seanzie claims scout and follows it up with a vote on Neon, ergo Neon is player I suppose ? Or Seanzie is misleading as NPC. Would probably not touch any of those today.

Moving on...

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh

Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

tldr:
- vivax tr's neon to start the game
- somewhat believes ender's deleter claim
- ender dies to the NK after voting neon + deleter claim mess
- vivax tries to get the ender wagon townread, lo and behold Neon is also on that wagon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine but again I'm an NPC and my vote is purely symbolic

I might unvote before EOD if people don't want NPC votes making things confusing

[Lumi]

I'm pretty obviously an NPC



This is your last day with me

[Lumi]

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (19), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
Not Voting (2): MacDougall (2), Lumi (1)
manny (1): Manny (16)

[Lumi]

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6768

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (5), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), Porscha (23), Schiavetto (5)
vivax (5): santygrass (99), DrWilgy (50), Seanzie (119), Michelle (40), Lumi (44)
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy (28), nutella (135), DeeZees (12), Vivax (32)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005 (53), Inawordyes (92)
unvote (1): Hally (24)
manny (1): Manny (37)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)

The fact that this isn't a tie means that at least one of pyxxy or DZ is an NPC

[Manny]

I'm pretty obviously an NPC

our masonry lasted the maximum it could've lasted, w.

[Hally]

I'm an NPC and bad at this game so grain of salt but

Vivax on Neon w/ chosen quotes:
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Spoiler: show

Neon probs player, tentatively town on a quick skim. Porscha maybe NPC but likely town if PC.
Ranmilia wagon looks pure mostly.

Quite possibly a bunch of scum among nonvoters but phoneplaying so it‘ll be a slow chore to look further and it‘s killing my motivation (or WIM as you fancily call it)

I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh?

If you're an NPC, then who even cares

If wolves want to join the masonry in order to protect us defenseless NPCs with their vote power, then who am I to judge as long as they renounce their PC ways and pursue the path of NPCism

Out of principle I don't negotiate with wolves as either alignment

I see you are not yet ready to pursue the true path of NPCism and give up all your worldly alignment-concerned ways.

The true path of NPCism doesn't see town or wolf, we just see people for who they are, not what they were randed.

Why shackle yourselves to that limited perception of binary alignment?

You might be right about that. I do feel like I'm not ready to be a true NPC sometimes.

The thing is... I have a friend out there. You wouldn't know them. But I'm pretty sure they are a player. And I think they'd appreciate if I kept my player equity for a bit longer, y'know?

We might not see the differences between our alignment, but they do, and I choose to respect their beliefs. And maybe that way, we can reach a better understanding between NPCs and Players.

This post is worded mighty harmlessly. Sounds like something Merkel would say tbh (or many others who don't try to stick their neck out but somehow it reminded me of her). Phrases and platitudes.
Makes SK yeetable for me today.

What if I deleted TSP and they weren't the mafia kill?

Anyways

[VOTE: Katze] aubergine

i rly cant imagine who would kill tsp at all lmao

but it doesnt obviously rule out pyxxy in my mind bc if pyxxy wolf i doubt hes shotcalling nks

It was me

Got a deleter claim here. Ender wants to yeet it. Quite bold from Ender or indirect CC from town ender, but then Neon could be NPC or scum which seems rather unlikely to me considering the boldness. Maybe Ender has other reasons? He's free to expound on them I guess.
Seanzie claims scout and follows it up with a vote on Neon, ergo Neon is player I suppose ? Or Seanzie is misleading as NPC. Would probably not touch any of those today.

Moving on...

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh

Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

tldr:
- vivax tr's neon to start the game
- somewhat believes ender's deleter claim
- ender dies to the NK after voting neon + deleter claim mess
- vivax tries to get the ender wagon townread, lo and behold Neon is also on that wagon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine but again I'm an NPC and my vote is purely symbolic

I might unvote before EOD if people don't want NPC votes making things confusing

yeah, i thought how vivax talked about neon seemed kinda w/w

also thought some posts seemed not w/w with porscha

but i don’t put too much stock into spew reads generally

[Hally]

I'm pretty obviously an NPC



This is your last day with me

alright, if this is true then someone in

Manny
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto

has to be a player unless i messed up somewhere

[Hally]

neon/dz/+1?

in this world i think the last would be whoever the player in lumi/rico/schia/pyxxy/manny is

don’t really think nanook or porscha are w/w with neon but i’d have to double check

i guess it could be iawy too but i dunno, he’s felt more like a villager to me

[Hally]

in all these posts i’m assuming illario is the deleter as claimed, which makes jack an NPC always

[Lumi]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

[Lumi]

Porscha
Schia
Michelle
DZ
Hally
Neon
ilario
Jack
Wilfy
Manny
Nook
IAWY
pyxxy
Ricochet

That should be the living players

[Lumi]

I'm pretty obviously an NPC

our masonry lasted the maximum it could've lasted, w.

Tbh, highlight of the game B)

[Lumi]

Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658

Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)

[Lumi]

Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)

[Lumi]

Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658

Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)

CW only has Neon, ilario as potential players but Wilgy is basically mech confirmed a player, and so there's really no information to be gained here.

[Lumi]

Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)

HK had 3 votes + Jack
Santy had at most 2 votes, so no info to be gained here

[Lumi]

Day 3 Vote Count
SoD: #3945 EoD: #5097

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (13), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)
drwilgy (6): SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), EnderWiggin (37), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
vivax (3): DeeZees (30), santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20), katze (74)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
ran (1): DrWilgy (21)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (22)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (9)

Wilgy has: 2 votes + ilario + Jack
Ran has: 1 vote + Porscha + Neon

Therefore if both ilario and Jack are NPCs then there's also an NPC among Porscha/Neon
Which leaves room for only 2 more NPCs which means Manny would have to be a PC

So assuming Manny and Me are NPCs, that means that there's exactly 1 NPC among Ilario and Jack and Porscha + Neon are both confirmed players.




Currently up to

Basically mech confirmed players:
Michelle
Wilgy
Porscha
Neon



NPCs:
Lumi
Manny
At least one of DZ/pyxxy
Exactly one of ilario/Jack


TBD:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

[Lumi]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5097 EoD: #5825

Not Voting (7): MacDougall (15), Lumi (32), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1), Schiavetto (5), Marmot (1)
lilypetal (5): santygrass (82), nutella (38), Michelle (41), DeeZees (26), Hally (57)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9), Lilypetal (57), EnderWiggin (36)
enderwiggin (3): Neon (50), ilario (6), Vivax (57)
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005 (23), DrWilgy (37)
manny (1): Manny (39)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (12)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (18)
schiavetto (1): pyxxy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)
ricochet (1): sprityo (5)

Lily has:
3 votes + DZ + Hally
Neon has: 3 votes

Means that there is guaranteed at least one PC among DZ and Hally

Doesn't actually tell us that much

[Lumi]

Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah



The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario


At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY


I think its time to murderize schia

[Hally]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

[Lumi]

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (23), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
Not Voting (1): MacDougall (2)
manny (1): Manny (17)
schiavetto (1): Lumi (13)

[Lumi]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

[Hally]

i’m not sure why he didn’t list all his checks since he was open claiming

seems like questionable PR play

[Hally]

also, while we’re on that subject, if illario actually never used his deleter that’s really ??? too

dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol

[Lumi]

Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah



The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario


At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY


I think its time to murderize schia

@Hally
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes

@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy


Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.


Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)

[Lumi]

also, while we’re on that subject, if illario actually never used his deleter that’s really ??? too

dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol

Rather than bagging on PRs Seanzie and ilario, you should vote Schia B)

Let the late Seanzie rest in peace

[Manny]

Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

why is 6v3 better than 7v3, isnt more towns = better?

[Lumi]

Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

why is 6v3 better than 7v3, isnt more towns = better?

6v3 -> 4v3
Whereas 7v3 -> 5v3

By sleeping you get more info and one less person to potentially ML

There are sometimes exceptions, but this is not one of them

[Hally]

Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah



The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario


At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY


I think its time to murderize schia

yeah, one of schia/rico is very likely a wolf

also i’m confirmed player, seanzie said he checked me

[Hally]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

[Hally]

we’re not killing schia today, just turbo them tomorrow if they’re still alive

i want as many active villagers alive to find and kill the wolves who are actual threats

schia will resolved by the purge, they’re not a threat

[Lumi]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

[Inawordyes]

I'm pretty obviously an NPC



This is your last day with me

alright, if this is true then someone in

Manny
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto

has to be a player unless i messed up somewhere

*cough cough* it’s Schia *cough cough*

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

Schia made a blatant wolf move by posting six times ant EoD and acknowledging that they were posting a sixth time in said sixth post. Them being a minposter who comes in and makes five posts and bails had been a topic that came up several times yesterday, so for Schia to intentionally and self-awarely point it out and go above that shows that either they were actively lurking the thread (in which case, why no play game?), or someone told them in scumchat that it was getting brought up

The fact that they’re now openwolfing and nobody seems to care that they’re obviously a player is really super dang frustrating

[Inawordyes]

Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah



The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario


At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY


I think its time to murderize schia

@Hally
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
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Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.


Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)

Ily Lumi, at least someone kinda understands

[Lumi]

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (29), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
schiavetto (2): Lumi (19), Inawordyes (1)
Not Voting (1): MacDougall (2)
manny (1): Manny (18)

[Hally]

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

[Lumi]

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

If the game is 5v3 do you think town should sleep or should they try to find the wolf?

[Inawordyes]

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than Schia

Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness

[Hally]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

[Lumi]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?

[Inawordyes]

Neon almost dying and then completely falling under the radar afterwards while not really doing anything actively townie is problematic

[Lumi]

Chopping town~Neon here is nearly game losing!

[Hally]

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than Schia

Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness

i want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solvers

[Hally]

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.


[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?

i didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolf

[Inawordyes]

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than Schia

Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness

i want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solvers

As stated yesterday

Just because Schia isn’t posting ITT doesn’t automatically mean that they’re somehow not the loudest voice in mafia chat if they are a wolf. Any wolf is a threat to us, and basically agreeing that you think Schia is a wolf but pushing back on voting them out to instead vote someone who’s more prominent in the thread is baffling at best, anti-townie at mid, and actively scummy at worst

[Lumi]

Neon almost dying and then completely falling under the radar afterwards while not really doing anything actively townie is problematic

Yes, true, this has been a hard game for a lot of town to get into though, that is empirically true just by virtue of looking at the playerlist still having a ton of people that have been struggling to get into the game.

Maybe Neon is a wolf, I don't know! I've hardly read the game myself! I don't think I've even read more than a dozen of Neon's posts!
But I'm an NPC who can say whatever I want without any consequences and I think that Neon has to be >>rand wolf to warrant a chop there today

[Inawordyes]

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?

i didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolf

Who do you want to vote out then Hally? Where’s your head at atm?

[Inawordyes]

Too many of our best solvers in this game were NPCs who eventually stopped caring, and sitting back as town players and letting the NPCs do all the work is actively working against us now

[Inawordyes]

Too many of our best solvers in this game were NPCs who eventually stopped caring and/or got chopped/NKed, and sitting back as town players and letting the NPCs do all the work is actively working against us now

EBWOP

[Hally]

Chopping town~Neon here is nearly game losing!

i don’t see how it matters either way, regardless wolves need two mislunches

if we mislunch v!neon after we kill w!schia it’s the same difference as mislunching neon before we kill schia

the order is irrelevant unless you think neon (or whoever else we kill) would be cleared by a schia wolf flip