Holes Mafia {TOWN WINS}

[Seanzie]

I don't like the Dennis wagon.

[Seanzie]

this is either the best decision in mafia history or I'm the biggest dumbass ever but [VOTE: dennis] aubergine

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

[Seanzie]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig e4 e3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

[Dennis]

What does everyone think of Fingerspints?

I think she's okay but I could still see her going either way. Her opting out of mech talk is nothing major to me because I get confused about mechanics for a lot of things I do as well and I can see how that's frustrating.

I wish I could give you more than this but I guess tiny town lean.

heheh the post says "Fingerspints"

[Dennis]

Lol Seanzie asking the same question 3 times

[Dennis]

UM HELLO I JUST SAW MY TITLE UPDATED AND IM A DRUG DEALER NOW??

[Seanzie]

Lol Seanzie asking the same question 3 times

Three different people, ergo three different questions.

[Seanzie]

poke

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

wolfy meme

Your a wolfy meme.

Heh. Gottem.

what the fuck is this

Me being me.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

Yes.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

Yes.

You are talking to the girl who.snap votes in locked lylo every single game tho.

[Seanzie]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

Yes.

Why? Explain plz.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

Yes.

Why? Explain plz.

It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.

[Seanzie]

Man yall are scaredy cats if you wanna vote me you best COMMIT to that

None of that weak ass spiritual voting nonsense

I am aware how similar this is to a cartomancy post, I thought Cartomancy was my funniest game yet so I kinda like it

Comedy>>>>>>winning the game

Actual vote Dennis

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine dig d6 and a3

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?

Yes.

Why? Explain plz.

It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.

hmmm...

[Seanzie]

hm hm hm hm hm

[Seanzie]

tempted to snap vote Neon

[pyxxy]

@Neon alright please check my work

pyxxy - myself
lucy - tr for not being herself
Neon - tr for forgetting when EOD was / not paying close attention to it
Seanzie - tr for firing off that vote at SOD D1 and reminds me of NPC game (to an extent)
DrWilgy - tr because I think I'm finally understanding the wilgz's playstyle
Dennis - tr for his reads list feeling honest

Sabiplz - unsure. I want to put POE for VCA reasons. Falcon vote was odd. Argued with Dennis today. But I don't trust my Sabi reads atm.

Marmot - POE but least confident. I think I currently have a bad case of OMGUS mixed in with my instinct here. But something is off here. Almost seems...too competent?
fingersplints - POE for timing of falcon vote + DrWilgy's read of already prepping for a town Falcon flip
Macdougall - POE for seeming different than my other interactions with him, tmi comment about Sabi seemed lazy, super quiet D1, all over the place D2

I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.

"and I'm the third! "

mac and marmot also named each other in their "jokey" scum lists, as well as both seeding the idea of scum!Falcon

Marmot
Lucy
Falcon

Everyone else was townie

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

the solve is Marmot/Mac/fingersplints o7 gn

Why do you TR Lucy for ***NOT*** being herself?

I think you and I may have the most Sabi experience but I'm going the opposite direction as you I think Sabi is leaning town atm.

I do like the solve you came too but can you talk to me about these things?

ofc I just had to sleep I spent an hour going through everyone's ISO + context

re: lucy, it was the "I don't want to play" posting, seems honest, aka I agree with Sabi that it makes lucy look towny to admit to that feeling

if lucy truly goes completely afk then I'll reassess but for now that's enough for me

re: Sabi, it's more I don't trust my reads on them at all, I want to see them wolf again so I can recalibrate

tag me with any other questions you think of

[pyxxy]

@Neon alright please check my work

pyxxy - myself
lucy - tr for not being herself
Neon - tr for forgetting when EOD was / not paying close attention to it
Seanzie - tr for firing off that vote at SOD D1 and reminds me of NPC game (to an extent)
DrWilgy - tr because I think I'm finally understanding the wilgz's playstyle
Dennis - tr for his reads list feeling honest

Sabiplz - unsure. I want to put POE for VCA reasons. Falcon vote was odd. Argued with Dennis today. But I don't trust my Sabi reads atm.

Marmot - POE but least confident. I think I currently have a bad case of OMGUS mixed in with my instinct here. But something is off here. Almost seems...too competent?
fingersplints - POE for timing of falcon vote + DrWilgy's read of already prepping for a town Falcon flip
Macdougall - POE for seeming different than my other interactions with him, tmi comment about Sabi seemed lazy, super quiet D1, all over the place D2

I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.

"and I'm the third! "

mac and marmot also named each other in their "jokey" scum lists, as well as both seeding the idea of scum!Falcon

Marmot
Lucy
Falcon

Everyone else was townie

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

the solve is Marmot/Mac/fingersplints o7 gn

What about my play reminds you of Secret Playerslist? I feel like I am night and day here.

are you suggesting that I scumread you in this game?

nah you're doing the same behaviors e.g. tunneling and forcepushing your wagon of the day

in NPC game I thought this was scummy (see: nutella situation) but if this is just your playstyle then I find you consistent

all we're missing is for you to get outed as town again and then actually try to be a leader

[pyxxy]

tempted to snap vote Neon

don't let anyone tell you you're not funny seanzie

[Sabiplz]

@Neon alright please check my work

pyxxy - myself
lucy - tr for not being herself
Neon - tr for forgetting when EOD was / not paying close attention to it
Seanzie - tr for firing off that vote at SOD D1 and reminds me of NPC game (to an extent)
DrWilgy - tr because I think I'm finally understanding the wilgz's playstyle
Dennis - tr for his reads list feeling honest

Sabiplz - unsure. I want to put POE for VCA reasons. Falcon vote was odd. Argued with Dennis today. But I don't trust my Sabi reads atm.

Marmot - POE but least confident. I think I currently have a bad case of OMGUS mixed in with my instinct here. But something is off here. Almost seems...too competent?
fingersplints - POE for timing of falcon vote + DrWilgy's read of already prepping for a town Falcon flip
Macdougall - POE for seeming different than my other interactions with him, tmi comment about Sabi seemed lazy, super quiet D1, all over the place D2

I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.

"and I'm the third! "

mac and marmot also named each other in their "jokey" scum lists, as well as both seeding the idea of scum!Falcon

Marmot
Lucy
Falcon

Everyone else was townie

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

the solve is Marmot/Mac/fingersplints o7 gn

Why do you TR Lucy for ***NOT*** being herself?

I think you and I may have the most Sabi experience but I'm going the opposite direction as you I think Sabi is leaning town atm.

I do like the solve you came too but can you talk to me about these things?

ofc I just had to sleep I spent an hour going through everyone's ISO + context

re: lucy, it was the "I don't want to play" posting, seems honest, aka I agree with Sabi that it makes lucy look towny to admit to that feeling

if lucy truly goes completely afk then I'll reassess but for now that's enough for me

re: Sabi, it's more I don't trust my reads on them at all, I want to see them wolf again so I can recalibrate

tag me with any other questions you think of

Look at cartomacy uwu

[pyxxy]

hmmm poll closes in 11 hours

that's still a lot of time

see y'all at -6:00 or so, I want to give all the quiet people a chance to speak before I try to run one of them up the flagpole

[Seanzie]

@Neon alright please check my work

pyxxy - myself
lucy - tr for not being herself
Neon - tr for forgetting when EOD was / not paying close attention to it
Seanzie - tr for firing off that vote at SOD D1 and reminds me of NPC game (to an extent)
DrWilgy - tr because I think I'm finally understanding the wilgz's playstyle
Dennis - tr for his reads list feeling honest

Sabiplz - unsure. I want to put POE for VCA reasons. Falcon vote was odd. Argued with Dennis today. But I don't trust my Sabi reads atm.

Marmot - POE but least confident. I think I currently have a bad case of OMGUS mixed in with my instinct here. But something is off here. Almost seems...too competent?
fingersplints - POE for timing of falcon vote + DrWilgy's read of already prepping for a town Falcon flip
Macdougall - POE for seeming different than my other interactions with him, tmi comment about Sabi seemed lazy, super quiet D1, all over the place D2

I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.

"and I'm the third! "

mac and marmot also named each other in their "jokey" scum lists, as well as both seeding the idea of scum!Falcon

Marmot
Lucy
Falcon

Everyone else was townie

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

the solve is Marmot/Mac/fingersplints o7 gn

What about my play reminds you of Secret Playerslist? I feel like I am night and day here.

are you suggesting that I scumread you in this game?

nah you're doing the same behaviors e.g. tunneling and forcepushing your wagon of the day

in NPC game I thought this was scummy (see: nutella situation) but if this is just your playstyle then I find you consistent

all we're missing is for you to get outed as town again and then actually try to be a leader

I'm suggesting your reasons for townreading me are not well-fleshed out and could be indicative of a wolf.

I am town leader.

[pyxxy]

@Neon alright please check my work

pyxxy - myself
lucy - tr for not being herself
Neon - tr for forgetting when EOD was / not paying close attention to it
Seanzie - tr for firing off that vote at SOD D1 and reminds me of NPC game (to an extent)
DrWilgy - tr because I think I'm finally understanding the wilgz's playstyle
Dennis - tr for his reads list feeling honest

Sabiplz - unsure. I want to put POE for VCA reasons. Falcon vote was odd. Argued with Dennis today. But I don't trust my Sabi reads atm.

Marmot - POE but least confident. I think I currently have a bad case of OMGUS mixed in with my instinct here. But something is off here. Almost seems...too competent?
fingersplints - POE for timing of falcon vote + DrWilgy's read of already prepping for a town Falcon flip
Macdougall - POE for seeming different than my other interactions with him, tmi comment about Sabi seemed lazy, super quiet D1, all over the place D2

I think Wilgy is town. He would have voted Falcon otherwise. So his wagon probably has 1 mafia on it.

There's a maf in the Falcon voters probably.

Other one is off wagon.

"and I'm the third! "

mac and marmot also named each other in their "jokey" scum lists, as well as both seeding the idea of scum!Falcon

Marmot
Lucy
Falcon

Everyone else was townie

The wolves are MacDougall, pyxxy, and falcon45ca.

the solve is Marmot/Mac/fingersplints o7 gn

What about my play reminds you of Secret Playerslist? I feel like I am night and day here.

are you suggesting that I scumread you in this game?

nah you're doing the same behaviors e.g. tunneling and forcepushing your wagon of the day

in NPC game I thought this was scummy (see: nutella situation) but if this is just your playstyle then I find you consistent

all we're missing is for you to get outed as town again and then actually try to be a leader

I'm suggesting your reasons for townreading me are not well-fleshed out and could be indicative of a wolf.

I am town leader.

that's fair, but I might chalk that up to unfamiliarity with my playstyle?

I would be curious how much you weight this concern against the fact that the rest of town is


put another way, why would scum!pyxxy want to be active when 1) dennis is a runaway wagon and 2) town is slanking

last note I would commit to a different wagon with you e.g. fingersplints, who you've already expressed interest in voting, I'm mostly holding my vote so that we can get real competitive wagons today

[fingersplints]

RL has been seriously bad today. I might try later but I don’t know that I have the mental capacity for mafia today. Sorry town

[Marmot]

sabi is wolfing af

:really:

Sir point out in my iso where I'm wolfing.

Why do you find me towny when I'm wolf ffs

let's be honest I've not read your iso

I just thought your townread on Lucy was a bit pockety as was your Dennis treatment and you are in a likely narrow pool due to the day 1 vote.

@Dennis just forget it lol

How'd you know about their Day 1 vote if you didn't read their ISO?

[Marmot]

I'm confused by Mac telling Dennis that they're going to kill Sabi together, but then he voted Dennis anyway.

[Marmot]

Why Mac is a wolf:

His progression today is weird. He's a wolf who expects he'll be killed for being Mac, and voted Dennis just to try to make sure a townie to go over before him. He called Neon a wolf, then almost immediately voted the same person she did, also voting the person he expressed no read


Why Mac is town:

His progression was weird, but he just was too lazy to be verbose about it. His Sabi read is actually really solid (Sabi's response was actually kinda defensive and scummy). His "I don't wanna solve the game" post was real.

[Marmot]

Yea lucy is town

tmi?

How is that tmi when lucy was being genuine and real

Micro-read that might be wrong.

Imo, a wolf would be more likely to make this post with the mildly defensive response, while a town Sabi would be more likely to respond more firmly with a "That isn't tmi". Like, I don't think Mac's initial read is actually correct, Sabi would make that initial read as town too, but I think Sabi's response looks like they know Mac correctly sussed them for a dumb reason.

[Marmot]

I also no longer think pyxxy is a wolf. I've liked what he's done today since I pressured him earlier.

I think pyxxy and lucy are both town.

Sabi and Mac are not w/w, but I think one of them is a wolf.


I'm still unsure about Dennis. I'm not against him dying today, but I do want a viable counterwagon to exist so that there's actually reason to discuss at the end of the day and we don't just sleepwalk to a Dennis yeet.

[Marmot]

Still undecided about Neon. She hasn't offered much content since she voted, but I could see a townie not feeling as much incentive to play the game when their vote is locked.

I could also see a wolf placing an early vote to influence the wagons and to not have to make a high-pressure vote later, hence my undecidedness. I think flipping another wolf might be useful in figuring out her alignment.

[Sabiplz]

Marmot sucks at reading me gn

[Sabiplz]

Marmot you modded both games I wolfed in

Is any part of how I'm playing manipulative? Am I poking? Am I making thread state bad?

Also the nk are not how I would. Do it. You nsaw wolf chat.

Good bye

[Sabiplz]

Whatever vote me out and see what happens.

Not wasting my time and energy

[Sabiplz]

No uwus for anyone

[Sabiplz]

Vote: mac

Augurgine

A4

I'm bussing Mac

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

tempted to snap vote Neon

Do it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Whatever vote me out and see what happens.

Not wasting my time and energy

Hmm.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hmm Hmm Hmm hmmm

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Tempted to snap vote Sabi here

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Oh wait.

[DrWilgy]

What's goin on in here?

[Marmot]

Marmot you modded both games I wolfed in

Is any part of how I'm playing manipulative? Am I poking? Am I making thread state bad?

Also the nk are not how I would. Do it. You nsaw wolf chat.

Good bye

Your play this game isn't like that, that's correct.

But those two games I modded were both very high activity games, and required a lot of effort from mafia to contest the high-energy town. This game doesn't require that, so I think comparing metas is less useful this game when the games we're comparing them to are so different.

[Marmot]

What's goin on in here?

Yes

[Marmot]

Why'd you opt to vote Mac, Sabi?

[DrWilgy]

Seanzie I just feel like you feel off because there's a distinct lack of town Seanzie solving from your iso.

Pyxxy, I have only seen wolf once (it was his first wolf rand). I dunno if I can compare that to this. So I'm not sure I'm much help on that.

Splints, I could maybe see.

I didn't vote Wilgz because he didn't seem like he was in pain in the thread.

Falcon I voted because while he is polarized there was a lack of game relate d posting from him that pinged me. Also I was tipsy and busy so I went with. Gut. Pick.

Sabi, you wolfing?

[Sabiplz]

Why'd you opt to vote Mac, Sabi?

Because you kinda read my. Kind about Mac behavior and a skuch as I wanted to vote dennis, dennis wagon is sus

[Sabiplz]

Seanzie I just feel like you feel off because there's a distinct lack of town Seanzie solving from your iso.

Pyxxy, I have only seen wolf once (it was his first wolf rand). I dunno if I can compare that to this. So I'm not sure I'm much help on that.

Splints, I could maybe see.

I didn't vote Wilgz because he didn't seem like he was in pain in the thread.

Falcon I voted because while he is polarized there was a lack of game relate d posting from him that pinged me. Also I was tipsy and busy so I went with. Gut. Pick.

Sabi, you wolfing?

Sabi wolfing doesn't do reads like that

@Marmot

[Sabiplz]

Quite literally go through my iso in both wolf Rands. When did I do reads.

[Marmot]

Why'd you opt to vote Mac, Sabi?

Because you kinda read my. Kind about Mac behavior and a skuch as I wanted to vote dennis, dennis wagon is sus

Did you just call Mac a skuch?