The Syndicate

[mention]cayvie[/mention] feel like voting Lissa today?

Joe’s check should probably be between like...idk, I guess nutella/LC/moth I guess? Not sure who makes sense as partner with Lissa outside of Mac tbh, but if he’s town I think it makes sense to give him same check pool carot had last night.

We should set up bronana voting joe so moth can send him his role, I think that makes most sense? Don’t see many worlds where bronana is bussing Lissa here tbh

Im cautious in the sense id rather lose a game to guessing wrong on final scum than being duped by a mechanical clear blunder that is fraudulent

I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

plus peeling anyone off a lissa wagon rn might be really anti town if our only motive is a rolecop message

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:58 pm Im cautious in the sense id rather lose a game to guessing wrong on final scum than being duped by a mechanical clear blunder that is fraudulent

Let's generate those mechanical clears before we decide what's legit and what's not.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

I dont know that I quite understand why zack would even choose lissa as a target. he had her locked as town day 1-6

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm plus peeling anyone off a lissa wagon rn might be really anti town if our only motive is a rolecop message

I think it's worth the risk.

i guess theres the whole idea of checking ones bias but zack seems more like a "trust it and shelve it" kinda guy

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

I dont know that I quite understand why zack would even choose lissa as a target. he had her locked as town day 1-6

He didn't choose her as a target. She posted her stats, which he then had an opportunity to analyze through the lens of his role.

we dont have a ton of collective leeway unless scums numbers are small. if cayvie is 3p ect. otherwise we need everyone to be focused on flipping scum first and foremosy

if my role is unhelpful and we get a wolf pelt I will happily take that over a coin flip mechanical move

youve played here a ton long con. do you think this is normal nutella?

moth wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:04 pm youve played here a ton long con. do you think this is normal nutella?

Yes, this is normal enough nutella. She's hard to read, very good at faking town when bed.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:22 am

moth wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:21 am anyway I mostly liked macdoug, nutella, sloon, and kza so far
I dont think theres a wolf in that bunch

Beware nutella. She just spun us around on her little finger last month.

So obviously you must still be pretty alarmed shes alive so late

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:59 pm I'm cleared via bronana. I mean, if you accept that Lissa is anti-cleared through the same method, which clearly you do. How about Joseph checks NANOOK, and moth sends nutella's role to bronana?

Oh yeh true

Joe should check in Nutella/Moth then


I defy you to push a team of me and Lissa with Joe being town lmao

Why is this town so hard to wrangle

Mechanics here SHOULD be fairly obvious

Joe checks in Nutella/moth

We have everyone except bronana vote Lissa

Bronana votes for Joe

Moth sends bronana Joe’s role


It isn’t that complicated

I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

Fair enough, I'll vote mac

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

I already basically am dude

Think about the worlds here...

If I were partners with Lissa...why would I call for joe to check between Lissa and bronana then leave him alive?

If there’s really 3p cayvie is certainly one of them...do you think this game started with 5 scum AND 1-2 3p, with one of those 3p as powerful as cayvie seems to be? I don’t. So we’re very likely either in a world of 4 scum plus 1-2 3p, or 5 scum with a weak 3p (in which case cayvie is likely just mafia)


Do you see what I’m saying here? I’m unlikely to be scum with townJoe, there aren’t likely to be 3 scum alive without cayvie being one of them (which rules out a team of Nanook/joe/Lissa), thus...I’m unlikely to be scum.

for the record, I don't think I ever said anything about lissa being lock town? I feel like I barely talked about her at all really. It was more like, this has been a weird game where it's been hard for me to get many townreads on people, and I've played a ton of games with Lissa and she almost never busses so that was good enough for me to have her just not a priority for me. I'm almost certain that I qualified my read should not be taken as gospel by any means, and mentioned that outed wolf is a better Lissa reader than I am. Possible this was a communication error on my part, and I won't pretend that she wasn't a townread of mine for most of the game. It can be difficult to suspect someone when it feels like they're the only person willing to listen and engage with me about my push on a wolf (in this case, Marcher; somewhat similar situation for why I mistakenly townread GH in the season 5 champs finale).

The insinuation that I'm someone who sticks with my reads and doesn't re-evaluate is blatantly untrue regardless, even just from this game. If anything, a willingness to re-evaluate is one of my more notable (villager) traits, often for the better but sometimes for the worse.

I mean we can sort out Joe’s check pool after Lissa flips, but it seems pretty fucking dumb to think I’m on a team with Lissa

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

I already basically am dude

Think about the worlds here...

If I were partners with Lissa...why would I call for joe to check between Lissa and bronana then leave him alive?

If there’s really 3p cayvie is certainly one of them...do you think this game started with 5 scum AND 1-2 3p, with one of those 3p as powerful as cayvie seems to be? I don’t. So we’re very likely either in a world of 4 scum plus 1-2 3p, or 5 scum with a weak 3p (in which case cayvie is likely just mafia)


Do you see what I’m saying here? I’m unlikely to be scum with townJoe, there aren’t likely to be 3 scum alive without cayvie being one of them (which rules out a team of Nanook/joe/Lissa), thus...I’m unlikely to be scum.

i mean in that world you and mac are both wolves so your in-thread instructions don't mean anything, really

I'm not sure why I was suggested as a peek to begin with tbh

bronana wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

I already basically am dude

Think about the worlds here...

If I were partners with Lissa...why would I call for joe to check between Lissa and bronana then leave him alive?

If there’s really 3p cayvie is certainly one of them...do you think this game started with 5 scum AND 1-2 3p, with one of those 3p as powerful as cayvie seems to be? I don’t. So we’re very likely either in a world of 4 scum plus 1-2 3p, or 5 scum with a weak 3p (in which case cayvie is likely just mafia)


Do you see what I’m saying here? I’m unlikely to be scum with townJoe, there aren’t likely to be 3 scum alive without cayvie being one of them (which rules out a team of Nanook/joe/Lissa), thus...I’m unlikely to be scum.

i mean in that world you and mac are both wolves so your in-thread instructions don't mean anything, really

If me and Joe are wolves then Lissa isn’t yeah? And we’re assuming she is, or I am at least, since there doesn’t seem to be any reason she’d have not gotten your hope increase if she were town

I think the logic is fairly clear?

bronana wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:10 pm I'm not sure why I was suggested as a peek to begin with tbh

I needed at least a pool of two so there was no room for “woops I checked X but they got NKed, dang that sucks but guess I’m the real cop right?”


Pool of 2-3 also forces decision making from cop claim, which is a plus imo


But yeah I took myself/moto (for his role)/cayvie (seemed silly to try another check there) out of contention, put you and Lissa in a pool for Joe and have carot the nutella/LC/moth pool


Seems pretty straightforward to me?

[VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

cayvie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm [VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

Is he your 3p partner?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:52 pm I'd prefer checking you, Nanook. Surely you would like to be cleared, right?

I already basically am dude

Think about the worlds here...

If I were partners with Lissa...why would I call for joe to check between Lissa and bronana then leave him alive?

If there’s really 3p cayvie is certainly one of them...do you think this game started with 5 scum AND 1-2 3p, with one of those 3p as powerful as cayvie seems to be? I don’t. So we’re very likely either in a world of 4 scum plus 1-2 3p, or 5 scum with a weak 3p (in which case cayvie is likely just mafia)


Do you see what I’m saying here? I’m unlikely to be scum with townJoe, there aren’t likely to be 3 scum alive without cayvie being one of them (which rules out a team of Nanook/joe/Lissa), thus...I’m unlikely to be scum.

Ok.

cayvie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm [VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

Or are you and Lissa just the last two scum, and you've been tricking us?

reminder that with the wolf win condition, it's probably a good idea for any villagers with sols to start loading up on presence

Will Joseph return to change his vote?

I have an additional ability tonight which will be very very fun heheh

cayvie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:54 pm [VOTE: motobot] aubergine last hope tbh

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:20 am MOTOBOT SHALL BE YEETED INTO THE SUN ON THE ACTUAL TWELFTH OF NEVER NERDS COME AND GET IT

Wow that just sounds rude.

if lissa is somehow a villager here i'm gonna be sad

there are still a few little things making me doubt but hopefully it's as simple and straightforward as it seems and she's just a wolf

when did you start doubting her? you seemed as locked in as id expect from 2 close friends who enjoy playing together

Sorry anni shenanigans what's goin on?

fuck this game

So the wolves are in cayvie, Joseph, and Lissa.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:28 pm So the wolves are in cayvie, Joseph, and Lissa.

"in"

Idk that “in” is necessary

This kinda sucks tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:32 pm Idk that “in” is necessary

This kinda sucks tbh

Oh please Nanook you already won the game.

ok

yikes

Hope you enjoyed your last AtE, Joseph.