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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:00 am
by DharmaHelper
Also, at least 2 of the people that fished today can rest tomorrow, and Golden and Eloh can fetch water. Problem = Solved.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:01 am
by LoRab
DharmaHelper wrote:Also, at least 2 of the people that fished today can rest tomorrow, and Golden and Eloh can fetch water. Problem = Solved.
I think I'm going to need to nap tomorrow, actually. I don't want my energy getting too low.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:05 am
by DharmaHelper
Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:12 am
by Opt_Outside
I'm happy to give my fish to whoever needs it. Just give me a holler

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:13 am
by insertnamehere
Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:18 am
by DrWilgy
DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?
You don't need to put a bat to my head for that. It's easy that I will be voting LoRab tonight.

I'm not going to ask others to follow me in this vote, but I am still wishing to vote away antagonists. LoRab's concern was for the tribe, but the matter of how she handled asking me to read the thread was hostile. It actually motivated me to stop reading and do the opposite until Eloh asked, this I resumed my catch up and detail learning.

Simply put, that attitude toward one's own tribe does nothing but decrease motivation and hinder the team.

Linki - INH, I'm down for that unless someone states that thier food is lower than 5. I'll submit a PM now to give DH the fish unless otherwise noted by EoN.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:21 am
by DrWilgy
I'm goimg to bed now. L8r g8rs. :^)

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:24 am
by DharmaHelper
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I'm going to be spending at least some of tomorrow with my Mom and family doing a craft that I've been planning as a surprise for her all week so I will miss out on some of the discussion.


I do want to stress a few things tonight before I depart.

- Whatever we decide, we decide as a tribe
- No bullshit
- No matter how the vote shakes out, we move forward afterwards together.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:29 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?
You don't need to put a bat to my head for that. It's easy that I will be voting LoRab tonight.

I'm not going to ask others to follow me in this vote, but I am still wishing to vote away antagonists. LoRab's concern was for the tribe, but the matter of how she handled asking me to read the thread was hostile. It actually motivated me to stop reading and do the opposite until Eloh asked, this I resumed my catch up and detail learning.

Simply put, that attitude toward one's own tribe does nothing but decrease motivation and hinder the team.

Linki - INH, I'm down for that unless someone states that thier food is lower than 5. I'll submit a PM now to give DH the fish unless otherwise noted by EoN.
Well, you hadn't listened to anything before that, after mulitple times of people (including me) kindly pointing things out that you were mistaken about. I eventually became frustrated with a player repeatedly not following the conversation, not knowing how the game was played, and not doing what was best for the tribe. If that earns your vote, so be it.

As many have said, tribe unity is important. Rogue players, I believe, are dangerous. I have seen rogue tendencies from you a few times now.

That I've pointed them out seems to scare you into voting for me.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:30 am
by DharmaHelper
Also before I go to bed:

Not gonna lie, 90% of my excitement for a merge is because it opens to door to like 50 more Negan Gifs.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:39 am
by LoRab
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I actually had already given my input on this, not that long before you said something similar, but no one seemed to read it.
LoRab wrote: And you each eat 1 of your fish. And give the other of your fish to someone else: Golden, DH, and Chuck makes the most sense. I believe Elo can feed herself--she's at least implied that in the thread. If I'm wrong, then she should get one of the fish instead of Chuck.
I believe Elo can feed herself. She can correct that assumption if I am wrong.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:44 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?
You don't need to put a bat to my head for that. It's easy that I will be voting LoRab tonight.

I'm not going to ask others to follow me in this vote, but I am still wishing to vote away antagonists. LoRab's concern was for the tribe, but the matter of how she handled asking me to read the thread was hostile. It actually motivated me to stop reading and do the opposite until Eloh asked, this I resumed my catch up and detail learning.

Simply put, that attitude toward one's own tribe does nothing but decrease motivation and hinder the team.

Linki - INH, I'm down for that unless someone states that thier food is lower than 5. I'll submit a PM now to give DH the fish unless otherwise noted by EoN.
Also, gotta say, voting me for one moment, in one post, of expressing frustration during what is the start of a really stressful weekend, I really don't think is fair, but I get that it angered you--and that you're voting me because you're pissed off, not because it's a rational decision. Just like my post wasn't really rational. I apologize for being harsh in that post. I am sorry if I came off as mean spirited. It was not my intention.

And I do apologize.

If your anger outweighs everything else I've done in the game in your mind, so be it. If that's the case, I can't really change your mind, and I won't try.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:51 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Hmmm... I don't wanna betray SVS, but I'll do it for the tribe.

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What? SVS is my friend. Why would she ever trust me again if I give her a Black Rock?

I'm submitting my rock change now.
I'm curious how you feel about your trust for SVS in the future since she gave you a black rock?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:08 am
by Golden
Someone please feed me. The map gave me three energy back but I'm still poisoned.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:27 am
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?
You don't need to put a bat to my head for that. It's easy that I will be voting LoRab tonight.

I'm not going to ask others to follow me in this vote, but I am still wishing to vote away antagonists. LoRab's concern was for the tribe, but the matter of how she handled asking me to read the thread was hostile. It actually motivated me to stop reading and do the opposite until Eloh asked, this I resumed my catch up and detail learning.

Simply put, that attitude toward one's own tribe does nothing but decrease motivation and hinder the team.

Linki - INH, I'm down for that unless someone states that thier food is lower than 5. I'll submit a PM now to give DH the fish unless otherwise noted by EoN.

Lorab, huh?

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Maybe today won't be so boring after all.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:01 am
by insertnamehere
LoRab wrote:I actually had already given my input on this, not that long before you said something similar, but no one seemed to read it.
Here's what Lorab said:
LoRab wrote:And you each eat 1 of your fish. And give the other of your fish to someone else: Golden, DH, and Chuck makes the most sense. I believe Elo can feed herself--she's at least implied that in the thread. If I'm wrong, then she should get one of the fish instead of Chuck.
Here's what I said:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I feel like these two posts are different enough in content to warrant them both needing to exist in the thread.

:shrug:

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:10 am
by LoRab
insertnamehere wrote:
LoRab wrote:I actually had already given my input on this, not that long before you said something similar, but no one seemed to read it.
Here's what Lorab said:
LoRab wrote:And you each eat 1 of your fish. And give the other of your fish to someone else: Golden, DH, and Chuck makes the most sense. I believe Elo can feed herself--she's at least implied that in the thread. If I'm wrong, then she should get one of the fish instead of Chuck.
Here's what I said:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I feel like these two posts are different enough in content to warrant them both needing to exist in the thread.

:shrug:
It was more that you didn't acknowledge that there had been another idea proposed. Or that I had spoken.

"I think it's a given," implies that everyone thinks that. I clearly had a slightly different opinion. And you didn't acknowledge the parts of it that were exactly the same.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:29 am
by insertnamehere
LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
LoRab wrote:I actually had already given my input on this, not that long before you said something similar, but no one seemed to read it.
Here's what Lorab said:
LoRab wrote:And you each eat 1 of your fish. And give the other of your fish to someone else: Golden, DH, and Chuck makes the most sense. I believe Elo can feed herself--she's at least implied that in the thread. If I'm wrong, then she should get one of the fish instead of Chuck.
Here's what I said:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I feel like these two posts are different enough in content to warrant them both needing to exist in the thread.

:shrug:
It was more that you didn't acknowledge that there had been another idea proposed. Or that I had spoken.

"I think it's a given," implies that everyone thinks that. I clearly had a slightly different opinion. And you didn't acknowledge the parts of it that were exactly the same.
:noble:

Alright, let's analyze this.

I was sharing my view, and my opinion on what me, Wilgy, and Opt should do with our extra fish.

I wasn't responding to you, DH, or anyone else. I was just offering up my views.

Also, if you had said something to the effect of "DH, Elo, and Golden should get the fish because they are sick," than yes, we'd be saying the same thing. Instead, you said that Golden, DH, Chuck, and maybe Elo should get the fish while declining to mention the sickness itself or really any reasoning at all.

And even if my opinion was exactly similar to yours, I still had the right to give it in the thread, as I'm one of the people with the fish that started this whole shebang in the first place.

I wasn't specifically snubbing you in particular either, Lorab, and I had read your post. I just chose to give my own POV without citing anyone else. It wasn't a directed snipe or me ignoring you. It was me speaking my mind.

You also seem to think your statement is both too similar and directly contradictory to mine. They both can't be true.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:29 am
by insertnamehere
Also, do you feel like this conversation is constructive?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:34 am
by DharmaHelper
As long as you both agree I should get a fish
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:50 am
by Opt_Outside
All right- how about I give my fish to golden, wilgy gives his to speed, and insert gives his to DH? Unless Elo speaks up and needs one. Who said what isn't really important as long as everyone gets fed

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:50 am
by DharmaHelper
Here's some intel on the other tribe's energy scores:

Challenge One:
MP - "easily" [x]
SVS "Light balls" (No loss of energy)
Quin "Last ball" [heavy] 2 Energy (Possibly the same boost as Opt had)
DF - Puzzle (Whiffed)
Epi/LC/Sawyer/Sorsha - Unclear what they spent (total loss of 2 or 4 energy)

Challenge Two: [-3 for all participants]
LC ("Strongest")
SVS
Sorsha
DF (Stupefied? Did he miss another Challenge?)
Sorsha
NotSawyer

Totals:
SVS -3
LC -5 or -6
Sorsha -5 or -6
DF -3
Sawyer -5 or -6

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:01 pm
by LoRab
insertnamehere wrote:Also, do you feel like this conversation is constructive?
Not particularly. It's just frustrating when it feels like one is being talked over. I just like being acknowledged--it's all I ask in life, really.

And it was really just real life frustration bleeding over into game.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:06 pm
by speedchuck
As of this morning, I was at 8/10 hunger, and I am not poisoned.

There are probably better targets for fish?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:22 pm
by DharmaHelper
I'm just saying this so that "Drop Your Buffs" will be the next episode's title.

Jeff i swear to God if I hear you say "Drop your Buffs" I'm gonna lose it

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:36 pm
by DrWilgy
LoRab wrote:I'm curious how you feel about your trust for SVS in the future since she gave you a black rock?
Of course I still trust SVS. I hope she can forgive me for throwing the selfish rock as I forgave her.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:39 pm
by LoRab
speedchuck wrote:As of this morning, I was at 8/10 hunger, and I am not poisoned.

There are probably better targets for fish?
Wait. Can someone eat more than 1 fish at a time?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:47 pm
by insertnamehere
LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Also, do you feel like this conversation is constructive?
Not particularly. It's just frustrating when it feels like one is being talked over. I just like being acknowledged--it's all I ask in life, really.

And it was really just real life frustration bleeding over into game.
:consoling:

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:23 pm
by Opt_Outside
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm just saying this so that "Drop Your Buffs" will be the next episode's title.

Jeff i swear to God if I hear you say "Drop your Buffs" I'm gonna lose it
I have a feeling that's what the rocks are going to be determining- new tribes.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:39 pm
by Elohcin
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I can feed myself. I make delicious meals.

Who are we voting for today? I will not be voting for Opt or Lorab. I would rather not vote DH or Golden. I am talking with Wilgy in BTSC and he seems to have turned a leaf. What do you guys think?

linki? really? does anyone else thinks that? I would have to be all jumbled into new tribes now. And why would there be so many options to choose form if that were the case?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:44 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I can feed myself. I make delicious meals.

Who are we voting for today? I will not be voting for Opt or Lorab. I would rather not vote DH or Golden. I am talking with Wilgy in BTSC and he seems to have turned a leaf. What do you guys think?

linki? really? does anyone else thinks that? I would have to be all jumbled into new tribes now. And why would there be so many options to choose form if that were the case?
You'd "rather not" vote for me?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:55 pm
by DharmaHelper
Am I safe in assuming you left out Chuck because that's where you're leaning on your vote, Eloh?

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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:42 pm
by Elohcin
DharmaHelper wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I can feed myself. I make delicious meals.

Who are we voting for today? I will not be voting for Opt or Lorab. I would rather not vote DH or Golden. I am talking with Wilgy in BTSC and he seems to have turned a leaf. What do you guys think?

linki? really? does anyone else thinks that? I would have to be all jumbled into new tribes now. And why would there be so many options to choose form if that were the case?
You'd "rather not" vote for me?
Correct. You and Golden have both been awesome. And no...I don't want to vote chuck either. He seems cool. Was going to ask to have BTSC with him next.

INH, I'd like to know where you are at right now in regards to a wilgy vote.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:54 pm
by DharmaHelper
So then who are you keen to vote for Eloh? I'm up in the air myself

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:03 pm
by DrWilgy
LoRab wrote:Also, gotta say, voting me for one moment, in one post, of expressing frustration during what is the start of a really stressful weekend, I really don't think is fair, but I get that it angered you--and that you're voting me because you're pissed off, not because it's a rational decision. Just like my post wasn't really rational. I apologize for being harsh in that post. I am sorry if I came off as mean spirited. It was not my intention.

And I do apologize.

If your anger outweighs everything else I've done in the game in your mind, so be it. If that's the case, I can't really change your mind, and I won't try.
I'm not angry at you LoRab, I was disheartened but got over it. I'm mostly concerned that fighting would break out in the tribe of we are hostile to one another.

Like I said, I do think you have the tribe's interests in mind, and that is a factor that comes into play when I think about my vote.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:30 pm
by Elohcin
DharmaHelper wrote:So then who are you keen to vote for Eloh? I'm up in the air myself
It's hard. But I think I am down for an INH vote at the moment. He's not been a very memorable player. But I want discussion b/c I want to keep this vote in the best interest of the tribe.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:40 pm
by DharmaHelper
Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:So then who are you keen to vote for Eloh? I'm up in the air myself
It's hard. But I think I am down for an INH vote at the moment. He's not been a very memorable player. But I want discussion b/c I want to keep this vote in the best interest of the tribe.
Really? Interesting. I think I'd need a bit more of a case to be made other than he's "not been memorable", But I'm happy to see you trying to think these things over.
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:51 pm
by DrWilgy
Currently my definitely not voting for list includes DH and Golden.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:08 pm
by Elohcin
maybe we should get all our 'definitely nots' into the thread and see who's left.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:10 pm
by Golden
I have a 'definitely not' on opt_outside. She's new around these parts, and I want her to get to hand around for a bit.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:10 pm
by Golden
Plus I think her strength in challenges is important, especially given she's not sick.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:14 pm
by DrWilgy
I'll add Opt to my def nots through Eloh's recommendation. Eloh too. Eloh too.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:20 pm
by DharmaHelper
Far as I'm concerned Opt and Chuck are definitely nots.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:26 pm
by Elohcin
So far for the Def Nots we have:

Chuck - 1
DH - 1
Eloh - 1
Golden - 1
Lorab - 1
Opt -3

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:40 pm
by DrWilgy
Hey DH, can I have your thoughts on me?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:45 pm
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:Hey DH, can I have your thoughts on me?
I like the hustle today, but I'm weighing that against the fact that I know you could have done better if you wanted to yesterday.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:47 pm
by DrWilgy
DharmaHelper wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Hey DH, can I have your thoughts on me?
I like the hustle today, but I'm weighing that against the fact that I know you could have done better if you wanted to yesterday.
That's fair. I'm sorry about my lack of play, but I don't regret it.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:14 pm
by DrWilgy
Hallo?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:53 pm
by Elohcin
ABout the poll. I am automatically on mustard. It says in the thread to vote again. But the poll says only one vote per option. So I cannot do both. Scotty help me out here.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:58 pm
by DrWilgy
You wanna trade? I'll take mustard if you want Maroon.