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[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.

Yeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammer

If she was town, what problem do the mafia have with hammering?

Is this a real question

It also ignores that even if her wagon is pure mafia still can’t hammer it

?

the op says there is 12 living players, and if the wagon is pure, then the mafia could hammer?

Four people on the wagon

Takes eight for a hammer

Mafia can’t hammer from here even if wagon is pure and they all piled on

[JaggedJimmyJay]

There is some potential that Alison's massive post that culminated in "vote nutella" was just opportunism. She could have anticipated voting support from DK, Made, Michelle, and maybe Esooa (I don't recall how hers developed). I don't get why nutella is the answer instead of some other high-volume or perceived "manipulative" player.

why won't you vote for alison

I might. I haven't voted all day, because I'm working out the game as much as I can before I build onto any damn wagon.

You know, if I was mafia with Alison the last thing I'd do is waffle around like a lost puppy. I'd pick a lane. I know what kinda shit people like to believe is "teamy". I am Interaction Boy.

I am torn and my play reflects that.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t need to

Do you have any particular order or priority for the names in your pile

You past, otherwise idc

[Made]

btw, last night when i was bringing up the alison/jay/esooa team I'm considering, esooa popped in to say "haha im just a townie tho" and has done basically nothing else

not convincing

That’s been a trend I’ve noticed as well.
Like I’ll say something like “yeah, esooa kinda fits tha—“ and she’ll jump in on some “WELL ITS GOOD THING IM TOWN”

At one point she was like “hey, imagine a PoE where I’m not scum”. I did and continued for a bit without her my PoE or my towncore. I’m not for the Jedi Mind unless they’re coming from Grogu.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what's your solve?

Three out of alison/dk/doom/grogu/jay

can you find a solid reason to take at least one out?

I don’t need to

why?

Cause a five person poe with three scum in it wins the game? I don’t need to narrow it down beyond five

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don’t need to

Do you have any particular order or priority for the names in your pile

You past, otherwise idc

does past = last

[Michelle]

Can you, like, convince me I am wrong? Or even try to?

I don't know what you need convincing of. I've explained all of my perspectives today and why Alison is likely mafia.

do it again for me please

[DaughterOfOmega]

ngl a bit paranoid about Nanook being mafia, maybe could be with Alison but meh

[nutella]

There is some potential that Alison's massive post that culminated in "vote nutella" was just opportunism. She could have anticipated voting support from DK, Made, Michelle, and maybe Esooa (I don't recall how hers developed). I don't get why nutella is the answer instead of some other high-volume or perceived "manipulative" player.

why won't you vote for alison

I might. I haven't voted all day, because I'm working out the game as much as I can before I build onto any damn wagon.

You know, if I was mafia with Alison the last thing I'd do is waffle around like a lost puppy. I'd pick a lane. I know what kinda shit people like to believe is "teamy". I am Interaction Boy.

I am torn and my play reflects that.

are you all out of faith

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t need to

Do you have any particular order or priority for the names in your pile

You past, otherwise idc

does past = last

Yeah lol

[nutella]

Can you, like, convince me I am wrong? Or even try to?

I don't know what you need convincing of. I've explained all of my perspectives today and why Alison is likely mafia.

do it again for me please

I am busy today I would prefer you just read my posts.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook thinks I am mafia, but has me in a group with every person I have been pushing. Wow I am really trying to kill my partners right before we win

[JaggedJimmyJay]

are you all out of faith

This IS how I feel

[Michelle]

Can you, like, convince me I am wrong? Or even try to?

I don't know what you need convincing of. I've explained all of my perspectives today and why Alison is likely mafia.

do it again for me please

I am busy today I would prefer you just read my posts.

I am exhausted, I will do it overnight and post conclusions if I am alive next day

[DaughterOfOmega]

Yeah so nanook isn't caring to play the game, that's a free kill 2 days from now

I mean I'd be upset if my partners were about to die in the next 2 days

[nutella]

ngl a bit paranoid about Nanook being mafia, maybe could be with Alison but meh

mindmeld tbh. The better I feel about jay the more nook comes back into contention

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah so nanook isn't caring to play the game, that's a free kill 2 days from now

I mean I'd be upset if my partners were about to die in the next 2 days

I’m pretty comfortable with the game state

[Michelle]

I need a break cya later

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also idk why you’re phrasing it as if you’re just now getting paranoid of me, you’ve been scumreading me most of the game lol

[DaughterOfOmega]

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia is a much more tolerable game because of goofp

Bless Long Con for his visual emotive mastery

Let the silly wash over you and just goofp

You're a goof, I'm a goof, let's all goof P!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

I’m not against voting alison

[Made]

Can you, like, convince me I am wrong? Or even try to?

I don't know what you need convincing of. I've explained all of my perspectives today and why Alison is likely mafia.

do it again for me please

What kinda stuff do you think you’re looking for to clear her?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve never much cared about who else is voting with me tbh

[DaughterOfOmega]

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

I’m not against voting alison

I'm not mafia.

Though it seems words aren't actions

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

I’m not against voting alison

I'm not mafia.

Though it seems words aren't actions

You might not be!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I might just be coming around to Alison/Esooa because I see too much town elsewhere. Grogu and DK can be there. Omega is a technical suspect but feels town. tutuu is a technical suspect but feels extra town.

So even if Alison/Esooa is wrong, that still could just be a POE. Or something.

I understand Nanook tinfoil. I do think though that his handling of the claims this phase was one of the more conclusively town-looking things in the game

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella can be mafia if I'm extra dumb. I could be. Would need to form a team for her though or else I got nothing.

Alison's nutella teams largely had me in them, so meh

[nutella]

I might just be coming around to Alison/Esooa because I see too much town elsewhere. Grogu and DK can be there. Omega is a technical suspect but feels town. tutuu is a technical suspect but feels extra town.

So even if Alison/Esooa is wrong, that still could just be a POE. Or something.

I understand Nanook tinfoil. I do think though that his handling of the claims this phase was one of the more conclusively town-looking things in the game

Yeah

[Made]

9/3 rn
If we hit with Alison 9/2
Night kill and vig 7/2
Misbake 6/2
Night kill 5/2
Misbake 4/2
Night kill 3/2
Lylo D6

[JaggedJimmyJay]

k

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Made]

But yeah, more mech talk tomorrow. Don’t think we need much more past today

[Made]

Are there any JJJ/Nanook Worlds out there?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

no misbakes just sweeps okay

what's a good bread word for sweep

[Made]

It's also interesting that Nanook just wants to kill his poe, he doesn't care the order, and thinks it always ends the game

Though his vote is on me, while he is voting with DK the person in his POE.

He believes Alison to be mafia, says he doesn't care, but won't vote her. I mean what do

[staypositivefriend]

i already said this last night, but i'm finding that jagged's town equity is increasing more largely as the day goes on. the number of possible team combinations that involve him are slowly dwindling (for example, i don't feel that DOOM or koba make a good fit for a jagged partner - perhaps i'm just gullible, but i don't feel that the level of personal anger/frustration would come from teammates), and i do think there is some truth to the idea that if he was playing from a scum mindset, he would probably be trying to "pick a lane" as opposed to wandering aimlessly and feeling confused. i feel that both his approach and his interactions w/the people here are indicative of someone with a torn town mindset. it's hard to imagine jagged not just bussing alison for towncred here if they were partnered

that said, i still don't see a good reason to townread alison. i think her game has been strong at points but she's consistently maintained and reinforced an objectively incorrect POE and i've consistently felt that she has the highest level of deepwolf equity out of everyone in this game. as for her partners, i'm actually not very sure - i'm starting to tinfoil tutuu more than i was before. i don't find her to be the shining beacon of towniness that i saw her as during the first 2 days. my gun to head guess for the team would perhaps be something like alison/koba/tutuu? hm

[Michelle]

Can you, like, convince me I am wrong? Or even try to?

I don't know what you need convincing of. I've explained all of my perspectives today and why Alison is likely mafia.

do it again for me please

What kinda stuff do you think you’re looking for to clear her?

I don't know, happened in the past to come to the conclusion she cannot be mafia. I am not searching for something pre defined. I have the heart open to understand
Maybe Nutella don't want to interact with me.
Maybe she is just busy like she said and she can't interact now.
But writing a post from someone who has her easiness in expressing herself is not a thing who is taking so much time.
I don't know

[Michelle]

What do you think about Koba and their play of today?
You know them better than anyone.

[Michelle]

That was a question for SPF

[Esooa]

i already said this last night, but i'm finding that jagged's town equity is increasing more largely as the day goes on. the number of possible team combinations that involve him are slowly dwindling (for example, i don't feel that DOOM or koba make a good fit for a jagged partner - perhaps i'm just gullible, but i don't feel that the level of personal anger/frustration would come from teammates), and i do think there is some truth to the idea that if he was playing from a scum mindset, he would probably be trying to "pick a lane" as opposed to wandering aimlessly and feeling confused. i feel that both his approach and his interactions w/the people here are indicative of someone with a torn town mindset. it's hard to imagine jagged not just bussing alison for towncred here if they were partnered

that said, i still don't see a good reason to townread alison. i think her game has been strong at points but she's consistently maintained and reinforced an objectively incorrect POE and i've consistently felt that she has the highest level of deepwolf equity out of everyone in this game. as for her partners, i'm actually not very sure - i'm starting to tinfoil tutuu more than i was before. i don't find her to be the shining beacon of towniness that i saw her as during the first 2 days. my gun to head guess for the team would perhaps be something like alison/koba/tutuu? hm

I've actually found jjj to be more scummy as today goes on

[Michelle]

What makes JJJ look scummier for you Esooa?

[Esooa]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

[DaughterOfOmega]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

tbh I kind of felt something similar but ignored it because I think Alison is mafia.

If Alison is town, I will remember Esooa kind of TMIing it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

why is nutella mafia

[Esooa]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

tbh I kind of felt something similar but ignored it because I think Alison is mafia.

If Alison is town, I will remember Esooa kind of TMIing it

okay buddy

[Esooa]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

why is nutella mafia

because Alison isn't

[JaggedJimmyJay]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

why is nutella mafia

because Alison isn't

Alison's alignment does not have a causal impact upon nutella's alignment. Please expand

[Esooa]

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

why is nutella mafia

because Alison isn't

Alison's alignment does not have a causal impact upon nutella's alignment. Please expand

I mean it quite literally does without even considering anything else. If there's 8 town and 2 mafia, each player is 20% chance to be mafia. If we then say Alison is town, there's 7 town 2 mafia, meaning each player has a 22% chance of being mafia. Regardless, Alison explained it well enough why Nutella is in her post. And if Alison is town, the post is to be believed. I think Alison is town. I agree with her post.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I could vaguely see a Nanook/nutella/x scenario. No clue who to call x

[DaughterOfOmega]

I will say this, Nutella v Alison is either t/t or w/t so