The Syndicate

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:33 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:06 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:07 am

Spoiler: show

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:44 pmhardclaiming mafia

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.

mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:08 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:06 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.

mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno

all posts are forced

maybe, but there's a distinct quality to wolfous stilt as opposed to townous stilt to me

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:27 pm k i got in touch with my homies and they advised me not to say anything and just dip out of the thread until this boils over

so i am going to have dinner and consider deeper questions

smh

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:37 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:31 am

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:40 am

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:37 am

You stand at a crossroads...what will you do?

^Church
<-Pawn Shop
Pirate Ship->
Magic Shopv

Magic shop probably most useful with my current build. v

@Master Radishes - how are you doing catching up?

Why would I catch up

ngl, i'm wondering if you're not taking this game seriously when you do crucial errands instead of spending your morning reading up on 10 pages of roughly insignificant dialogue.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 am you know who probably is legit wolfing?

MR

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:16 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that

I thought I was gonna be all edgy coming in here saying Michelle maf and Syn town and tutuu snipes me.


(Not sure on Michelle being mafia anymore though if she's poisoned.)

what are your thoughts on mac?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 pm hi sorry, long couple of days. renovations in my suite are ongoing and it's stressful on top of general business

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

^because i'm 50 pages behind and will be going by gut until i catch up on enough details

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:53 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 pm Looking through 112’s iso…

There’s a few red flags

There’s no discernible progression of how 112 starts our scum reading Mac:

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:10 pm

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it.

To this:

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am I'll probably roll with Mac for a bit don't really care if I'm wrong I can always reevaluate or die

i'm pretty confident he's town fwiw

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:46 am KZA is also a reasonable confident townread.

you and him are the players i normally read well and am pretty sure are town

'that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it' was sarcasm. i don't even remember making the initial read and whether it was serious.

i am always on top of maintaining consistency when i'm wolfing. i'll only break the general rules and backflip like that from this player is x alignment to this player is y alignment without any progression when i'm town. i know i'm giving you a meta read on myself but it's the truth, so take it with w/e you want.

also i feel i'm a better wolf than you're assuming so i feel somewhat challenged here lmao.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?

MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:16 am

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:47 am

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:16 pm
Performative when caught.

haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts

this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh

i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:08 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:11 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am @Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

Of course.

The thing about 112 is that when she's on her game she is a unique player archetype I struggle to definitively read, despite having played with her for so many years. I could definitely read her pre-2019 or so, but since her Champs experience I've often struggled - unless she's phoning it in, of course, which happened occasionally in CDC games.

My default setting is to scumread her. Partially this is me just being very reluctant to let myself be fooled by her, partially it's the erratic behaviour she can exhibit as town/mimic as scum. I need to look for reasons to call her town, not the other way around. So far this game we've not interacted in the thread at the same time much; both of us have had long spurts of not being present. So it's been difficult to get any sort of accurate read and I've largely avoided doing so and focused instead on what's in front of me when I'm here.

I will go out on a limb and again GTH call her town. On a big picture level, her limpness in the game would point to her being scum who just doesn't have the time/inclination to put in work. As town she should find it easier to throw out some snap reads without a care in the world. But that's too easily explained away by 'irl stuff' (which I might be overly sympathetic to right now tbh) and when reading her individual posts I can't see anything in particular I want to point out and call scummy. I don't sense what I think is her usual scum agenda of making herself come across as erratic and pure. If she's on a team with others I don't see what she's doing to help them.

It's still very possible she's scum and just sort of coasting by because she's never faced any particularly hot heat, but I think she is probably town who doesn't have the time or energy to put in.

Spoiler: show

Or 3P actually. I, uh, have been harbouring that one for awhile now. If this game reminds me of any I've played with her, it's GoC, where she was 3P.

this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR

Okay, so now that MR has flipped Red, I see so many red flags in this ISO from that POV alone.
112 called MR scummy on multiple occasions never followed that read of theirs, when somone questioned them about MR, they changed with a towny opinion even though they found MR scummy few pages back. They only voted for MR D3 when he was becoming a topic of concern and after some time they called their post as "this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR". i don't see why MR-112 can't be scum buddies given the progression honestly.

Even when I am leaving MR aside, 112's defense against early Scotty ISO was WIFOMy imo, and they explained their game on unnecessary places in unnecessary amounts that idk how points a towny agenda in anyway. The other incident that raised a few question was their TR on Koba before flip, the defense for their read was weak. Apart from all these they have casted their votes without explaining their reads on the player they voted + didn't bother to look into them later/make further reads on them.

If they flip red, i'm auto scum reading all games where they hardclaim mafia in the first post.

i quoted a few posts that should be looked at imo.

If 112 is scum do you think 2 scum would try to throw me under the bus if I am scum?

Since it is a flipless game I think many things can happen but if two scums die on consecutive days I think scum would try to keep the other scums safe or distance them. But I don't think understand your reason for asking this question and what is it based on?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:40 am 112: I'm not going to be around I think
Also 112: Immediate reaction to another vote.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:38 am Well I'm out until night so sleep well all y'all degenerates.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:09 am I think I'll rather choose this path believing in myself.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:17 am What today proves is that if I'm right mafia don't want to be busy fighting me or Scotty's follow up case killed the wim of scum.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:11 am are scotty and mac the only mech cleared players?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:12 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:11 am are scotty and mac the only mech cleared players?

mac is dead but I wouldnt say only. I think some other people have been mech cleared but I am not certain. Scotty for sure. Epi maybe?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:18 am @BoKnows wilgy claimed to have been roleblocked when visiting u n1. Is that part of ur role, do u have a roleblocking shield?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:16 am have we even caught a scum yet?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:23 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:16 am have we even caught a scum yet?

I really want to vote you now but 112 has to go first

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:01 am The good news is I have one doc charge left and I can save scotty with it

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:12 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:11 am are scotty and mac the only mech cleared players?

mac is dead but I wouldnt say only. I think some other people have been mech cleared but I am not certain. Scotty for sure. Epi maybe?

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:15 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:14 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:12 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:56 am just be me or i missed something, how come 112 and TSP are willing to talk about their action and rondo just declared that he claimed before i posted.

what is going on?

Because one of us are scum and I know I am not so I am pointing to the evidence that it isnt one of us 3. 33% chance, its one of those two 50% chance

@Poison does your ability literally state that ‘one’ of the three is opposite of your alignment? Or that at least one is?

it does not state 'one' but i got a negative, so i would incline more on "at least one of them for sure"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:49 pm Skimmed through Bo’s iso.

A lot of it is simply NAI with him. He doesn’t really roll up his sleeves and analyse much as town; I think he prefers to chat live with people and get a sense of them. And I give him a pass on that sort of thing anyway since he subbed in, possibly knowing he would just be a warm body and without any intention of playing hard, and has way too much to catch up on anyway.

The one thing that pings me about his iso is that it’s full of questions. Specifically, he asked me, Rondo, and Falcon all about what we thought, but seemingly did nothing with whatever our responses were (not bothering to check tbh). Tied to that, the only people he really talks to/about/around are me and Falcon, his CDC mates. (Not 112 though, whatever that may mean w.r.t. his associations with her, if anything.) And Rondo, actually. He is popping in, lobbing softball questions or comments at the people he’s comfortable talking to, plus one person extra, and then doing nothing else.

I think regardless of his alignment, Bo’s heart is not in this game. So there’s a high chance of simply misinterpreting his words and actions. But if anything stands out to me it’s his shying away from interacting with anyone outside a small circle including two of his familiar peers. That does suggest to me an attempt to stay out of the spotlight of others’ gazes beyond those he knows or maybe feels unthreatened by (sorry Rondo).

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm I can't see a wagon this big being correct at this stage in the game. Unless 112 was peaked? Which I haven't seen unless I missed it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm I can't see a wagon this big being correct at this stage in the game. Unless 112 was peaked? Which I haven't seen unless I missed it

Mech reasons

Poison claims she can pick three players on n3, and is told those players (collectively) are either aligned or not aligned with her. She was told they weren't aligned with her. Obviously she wasn't told which of the three wasn't.

So there's always at least one mafia between poison rondo tsp and 112

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:57 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm I can't see a wagon this big being correct at this stage in the game. Unless 112 was peaked? Which I haven't seen unless I missed it

Mech reasons

Poison claims she can pick three players on n3, and is told those players (collectively) are either aligned or not aligned with her. She was told they weren't aligned with her. Obviously she wasn't told which of the three wasn't.

So there's always at least one mafia between poison rondo tsp and 112

Ah okay, makes more sense then, I do recall seeing that, but didn't think we were at a group decision to just lynch and see.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:26 pm Yeah exactly, its significantly better than random cause we know there's a mafia in that grouping.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm I can't see a wagon this big being correct at this stage in the game. Unless 112 was peaked? Which I haven't seen unless I missed it

Mech reasons

Poison claims she can pick three players on n3, and is told those players (collectively) are either aligned or not aligned with her. She was told they weren't aligned with her. Obviously she wasn't told which of the three wasn't.

So there's always at least one mafia between poison rondo tsp and 112

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:23 pm What is the possibility that it's just Sig AND TSP?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm I can't see a wagon this big being correct at this stage in the game. Unless 112 was peaked? Which I haven't seen unless I missed it

Mech reasons

Poison claims she can pick three players on n3, and is told those players (collectively) are either aligned or not aligned with her. She was told they weren't aligned with her. Obviously she wasn't told which of the three wasn't.

So there's always at least one mafia between poison rondo tsp and 112

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:46 pm [VOTE: Bo] aubergine