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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:51 pm
by nutella
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:11 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:10 pmThe soulkeeper specifically said the "escape" at night through the door is the one where I could come out "changed". Being rescued was a separate option.
was the soulkeepwr Mac or PC?
This is a top tier pun

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm
by Kylemii
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:46 pmLC definitely knew it was YOU who outted him though... I wonder how such a thing could be staged. It sounds ballsy but so are the players involved :ponder:
follow up quandry??: if the mafia knew that juliets was a civ cop then why is she still alive 4 days later

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:54 pm
by Kylemii
nutella wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:11 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:10 pmThe soulkeeper specifically said the "escape" at night through the door is the one where I could come out "changed". Being rescued was a separate option.
was the soulkeepwr Mac or PC?
This is a top tier pun
it was a mid-tier typo

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:00 pm
by juliets
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:46 pmLC definitely knew it was YOU who outted him though... I wonder how such a thing could be staged. It sounds ballsy but so are the players involved :ponder:
follow up quandry??: if the mafia knew that juliets was a civ cop then why is she still alive 4 days later
Because sig and dunya covered well for me. They drew the suspicion onto them. sig claimed he was JOAT and he had checked LC before he got taken to the chatzy of lost souls and that made sense because the lynching was driven by dunya who was in there with sig.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:03 pm
by colonialbob
Did mac actually say he'd tell us if a team was eliminated? I thought he had but then I ISO'd him and couldn't find it. Was I making that up?

(Because if that's true we're still looking for at least one of each team right?)

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:05 pm
by juliets
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:03 pm Did mac actually say he'd tell us if a team was eliminated? I thought he had but then I ISO'd him and couldn't find it. Was I making that up?

(Because if that's true we're still looking for at least one of each team right?)
He told us Isis was eliminated.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:07 pm
by juliets
"At the end of day six insertnamehere (ISIS Cream) and Kites (Civilian) were lynched. ISIS Cream was defeated."

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:07 pm
by colonialbob
Lol guys I've been here the whole time I swear

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:08 pm
by colonialbob
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:07 pm Lol guys I've been here the whole time I swear
Well except for when I was kidnapped for sex stuff

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:26 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
When does day end

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:26 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Yeah pretty sure Im saved juliets but I know nothing about recruitments or w/e

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm
by Turnip Head
juliets wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:00 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:46 pmLC definitely knew it was YOU who outted him though... I wonder how such a thing could be staged. It sounds ballsy but so are the players involved :ponder:
follow up quandry??: if the mafia knew that juliets was a civ cop then why is she still alive 4 days later
Because sig and dunya covered well for me. They drew the suspicion onto them. sig claimed he was JOAT and he had checked LC before he got taken to the chatzy of lost souls and that made sense because the lynching was driven by dunya who was in there with sig.
I thought LC singled you out though. Do you think he was bluffing or what?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:30 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
So Kyle and TH formed a team versus Bob and Juliets? Thats what it looks like

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:32 pm
by juliets
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:00 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:46 pmLC definitely knew it was YOU who outted him though... I wonder how such a thing could be staged. It sounds ballsy but so are the players involved :ponder:
follow up quandry??: if the mafia knew that juliets was a civ cop then why is she still alive 4 days later
Because sig and dunya covered well for me. They drew the suspicion onto them. sig claimed he was JOAT and he had checked LC before he got taken to the chatzy of lost souls and that made sense because the lynching was driven by dunya who was in there with sig.
I thought LC singled you out though. Do you think he was bluffing or what?
He did single me out but after that sig and dunya implied they were responsible for the check which was believable because of where the nail came from.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:33 pm
by juliets
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:30 pm So Kyle and TH formed a team versus Bob and Juliets? Thats what it looks like
Well not really. We have just been discussing why each person could be mafia or civ.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:34 pm
by juliets
Also, I acknowledge its possible I got a bad result on one of my checks but assuming I got valid results Kyle is bad. And I have to go with that assumption right now.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:48 pm
by juliets
I will probably not be on after about 8 o'clock eat, and I'll have dinner before that so if anyone wants me to answer anything please put it out there.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:49 pm
by juliets
EBWOP: eastern daylight time not "eat"

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:52 pm
by Kylemii
working a closing shift til about 10 PST so by the time I'm back around everyone's probably going to be asleep

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:55 pm
by Kylemii
whatever you do, please keep this phase from ending in a tie, that's the actual worst case scenario for today.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:00 pm
by colonialbob
juliets wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:34 pm Also, I acknowledge its possible I got a bad result on one of my checks but assuming I got valid results Kyle is bad. And I have to go with that assumption right now.
Yyyyyyyyep.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:06 pm
by Quin
i'll be here guys dont worry

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:07 pm
by colonialbob
Theory crafting a bit:

If I'm mafia, my power is basically useless tonight. The only way it comes into play is if there's a tie between me and somebody else and I picked the right person who is voting with me not against me.

If TH is mafia, Kyle was probably telling the truth about him and his power is basically useless tonight.

If Kyle is mafia, he could have an extra kill or vote steal or make himself a double voter or something else that messes with the math.

If DDL is mafia, his power is useless tonight.

If juliets is mafia, her power is useless tonight unless she's lying about it, which is entirely possible but IMO the way her/Sig played out yesterday she's basically confirmed.

So Kyle is the smart lynch, because even if we're wrong we're still likely to be in mylo tomorrow (relying on DDL's vote, granted). But if he's mafia he could potentially lock up a win with a mislynch today.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:08 pm
by Turnip Head
[mention]juliets[/mention] what's the name of your role?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:17 pm
by Kylemii
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:07 pmIf I'm mafia, my power is basically useless tonight. The only way it comes into play is if there's a tie between me and somebody else and I picked the right person who is voting with me not against me.
this assumes you can't self target, we also don't know for sure the exact function of your role, just that it results in a +/- 1 vote
If Kyle is mafia, he could have an extra kill or vote steal or make himself a double voter or something else that messes with the math.
all I have left is a jail-keep
So Kyle is the smart lynch, because even if we're wrong we're still likely to be in mylo tomorrow (relying on DDL's vote, granted). But if he's mafia he could potentially lock up a win with a mislynch today.
that seems pretty convenient for you

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:18 pm
by Kylemii
did mac ever say if he'd tell us when we were in lylo?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:21 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:17 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:07 pmIf I'm mafia, my power is basically useless tonight. The only way it comes into play is if there's a tie between me and somebody else and I picked the right person who is voting with me not against me.
this assumes you can't self target, we also don't know for sure the exact function of your role, just that it results in a +/- 1 vote
If I could self-target and was mafia again INH wouldn't have been lynched
If Kyle is mafia, he could have an extra kill or vote steal or make himself a double voter or something else that messes with the math.
all I have left is a jail-keep[/quote]
If you're town, sure. If you're mafia, who knows.
So Kyle is the smart lynch, because even if we're wrong we're still likely to be in mylo tomorrow (relying on DDL's vote, granted). But if he's mafia he could potentially lock up a win with a mislynch today.
that seems pretty convenient for you
Care to dispute any of the logic or just cast aspersions on my character?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:22 pm
by colonialbob
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:21 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:17 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:07 pmIf I'm mafia, my power is basically useless tonight. The only way it comes into play is if there's a tie between me and somebody else and I picked the right person who is voting with me not against me.
this assumes you can't self target, we also don't know for sure the exact function of your role, just that it results in a +/- 1 vote
If I could self-target and was mafia again INH wouldn't have been lynched
If Kyle is mafia, he could have an extra kill or vote steal or make himself a double voter or something else that messes with the math.
all I have left is a jail-keep
If you're town, sure. If you're mafia, who knows.
So Kyle is the smart lynch, because even if we're wrong we're still likely to be in mylo tomorrow (relying on DDL's vote, granted). But if he's mafia he could potentially lock up a win with a mislynch today.
that seems pretty convenient for you
Care to dispute any of the logic or just cast aspersions on my character?
Fixed

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm
by colonialbob
If juliets got recruited and we were teammates why wouldn't I have just made her the double voter?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:27 pm
by Kylemii
i disputed your logic in that very post, right up there.

if we were voting purely based on potential to fuck up lylo your role is way worse than mine :0 if I'm mafia then the worst case scenario is that my role might do the thing that your role has already been proven to do.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:29 pm
by Kylemii
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm If juliets got recruited and we were teammates why wouldn't I have just made her the double voter?
you would. who's questioning that?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:31 pm
by Kylemii
that's why im concerned about ties

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:31 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm If juliets got recruited and we were teammates why wouldn't I have just made her the double voter?
you would. who's questioning that?
There was a whole discussion on her being recruited and me also being mafia, no?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:34 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:27 pm i disputed your logic in that very post, right up there.

if we were voting purely based on potential to fuck up lylo your role is way worse than mine :0 if I'm mafia then the worst case scenario is that my role might do the thing that your role has already been proven to do.
My role isn't helpful tomorrow unless I can self-target, and like I said if I could self-target INH wouldn't have gotten lynched.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:35 pm
by colonialbob
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:34 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:27 pm i disputed your logic in that very post, right up there.

if we were voting purely based on potential to fuck up lylo your role is way worse than mine :0 if I'm mafia then the worst case scenario is that my role might do the thing that your role has already been proven to do.
My role isn't helpful tomorrow unless I can self-target, and like I said if I could self-target INH wouldn't have gotten lynched.
If I could self-target and was mafia*

(I just make sure I vote Kites, we look like we tie, kites is lynched, we kill somebody, etc)

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:36 pm
by Kylemii
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:34 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:27 pm i disputed your logic in that very post, right up there.

if we were voting purely based on potential to fuck up lylo your role is way worse than mine :0 if I'm mafia then the worst case scenario is that my role might do the thing that your role has already been proven to do.
My role isn't helpful tomorrow unless I can self-target, and like I said if I could self-target INH wouldn't have gotten lynched.
double targeting rule means you'd only be able to do yourself every other night, right? plus even without that you'd be able to target ddl

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 pm
by colonialbob
Welp inh was ISIS rip that defense

But anyway why wouldn't I have made Sloonei a double voter instead of you

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:38 pm
by Kylemii
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm If juliets got recruited and we were teammates why wouldn't I have just made her the double voter?
you would. who's questioning that?
There was a whole discussion on her being recruited and me also being mafia, no?
yes, i don't understand the question. if you and juliets are teammates you'd obviously target juliets at endgame

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:39 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:36 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:34 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:27 pm i disputed your logic in that very post, right up there.

if we were voting purely based on potential to fuck up lylo your role is way worse than mine :0 if I'm mafia then the worst case scenario is that my role might do the thing that your role has already been proven to do.
My role isn't helpful tomorrow unless I can self-target, and like I said if I could self-target INH wouldn't have gotten lynched.
double targeting rule means you'd only be able to do yourself every other night, right? plus even without that you'd be able to target ddl
Tomorrow that doesn't matter. If we mislynch it's presumably 1 v 1 v 1. It's basically "who does DDL want to win". Giving him a double vote doesn't change that. Heck giving myself a double vote doesn't really change that, all that happens is either town or DDL doesn't win because they're lynched alongside me.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:40 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:38 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:26 pm If juliets got recruited and we were teammates why wouldn't I have just made her the double voter?
you would. who's questioning that?
There was a whole discussion on her being recruited and me also being mafia, no?
yes, i don't understand the question. if you and juliets are teammates you'd obviously target juliets at endgame
Why does al-Pieda cbob, with teammates Sloonei and motel and potentially a recruited juliets, make you a double voter?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:41 pm
by Kylemii
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 pm Welp inh was ISIS rip that defense

But anyway why wouldn't I have made Sloonei a double voter instead of you
the only reason we think you targeted me is cus you said you did, you could have targeted any of the inh voters, right?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:42 pm
by colonialbob
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:41 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 pm Welp inh was ISIS rip that defense

But anyway why wouldn't I have made Sloonei a double voter instead of you
the only reason we think you targeted me is cus you said you did, you could have targeted any of the inh voters, right?
If you think I faked that reaction, sure.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:43 pm
by colonialbob
And also this is all depending on the fact that I also have a godfather role, let's not forget

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:23 pm
by juliets
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:08 pm @juliets what's the name of your role?
Dr. Laszlo Kreisler, from the Alienist.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:28 pm
by juliets
Kylemii wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:41 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 pm Welp inh was ISIS rip that defense

But anyway why wouldn't I have made Sloonei a double voter instead of you
the only reason we think you targeted me is cus you said you did, you could have targeted any of the inh voters, right?
which rules me out because I voted Kites.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:30 pm
by juliets
I'll check back in every so often until I go to bed.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Turnip Head
Should we just let DDL decide the coin toss? :grin:

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:47 pm
by colonialbob
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:11 pm Should we just let DDL decide the coin toss? :grin:
:disappoint:

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:06 pm
by Turnip Head
[mention]Kylemii[/mention] and [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] if you had to choose between juliets and CBob which way would you lean iykwim

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 8

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:10 pm
by juliets
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:06 pm @Kylemii and @Dragon D. Luffy if you had to choose between juliets and CBob which way would you lean iykwim
You seriously want to lynch the cop?