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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
[VOTE:
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hmm yeah can't get it quite working
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Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #5 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): JaggedJimmyJay (40), MacDougall (60), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5)
nutella (3): katze (205), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (58), ilario (79)
jackofhearts2005 (3): Schiavetto (41), pyxxy (72), nutella (368)
santygrass (3): Creature (124), Guillotine (200), falcon45ca (93)
michelle (3): TonyStarkPrime (31), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18)
neon (2): Lilypetal (136), EnderWiggin (240)
ranmilia (2): iaafr (293), Porscha (183)
chelsea (2): Golden (46), ~Prince J~ (18)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (88), Lumi (185)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (114), Inawordyes (119)
ilario (2): Michelle (267), santygrass (365)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (336), Vivax (170)
vivax (2): Ranmilia (221), Seanzie (108)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
marmot (1): Marmot (98)
scotty (1): Sloonei (41)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (88)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (192)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (109)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (223)
lilypetal (1): DeeZees (111)
manny (1): Manny (314)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (80)
golden (1): lucy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (29)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
katze (1): G-Man (31)
ricochet (1): sprityo (39)
pyxxy (1): Neon (231)
hollowkatt (1): tutuu (94)
SoD: #5 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): JaggedJimmyJay (40), MacDougall (60), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5)
nutella (3): katze (205), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (58), ilario (79)
jackofhearts2005 (3): Schiavetto (41), pyxxy (72), nutella (368)
santygrass (3): Creature (124), Guillotine (200), falcon45ca (93)
michelle (3): TonyStarkPrime (31), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18)
neon (2): Lilypetal (136), EnderWiggin (240)
ranmilia (2): iaafr (293), Porscha (183)
chelsea (2): Golden (46), ~Prince J~ (18)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (88), Lumi (185)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (114), Inawordyes (119)
ilario (2): Michelle (267), santygrass (365)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (336), Vivax (170)
vivax (2): Ranmilia (221), Seanzie (108)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
marmot (1): Marmot (98)
scotty (1): Sloonei (41)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (88)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (192)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (109)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (223)
lilypetal (1): DeeZees (111)
manny (1): Manny (314)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (80)
golden (1): lucy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (29)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
katze (1): G-Man (31)
ricochet (1): sprityo (39)
pyxxy (1): Neon (231)
hollowkatt (1): tutuu (94)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
oh i somehow got a votecount from day 2 lmfao
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Guess Mac will have to do the vc himself and it’ll be a mystery who goes over until then
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yeah you have to set eods, i put stuff in so it should be on day 5 but i still can't get it to post
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:06 pm Guess Mac will have to do the vc himself and it’ll be a mystery who goes over until then
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Lumi i have this but clicking post vc (either the eod5 one or the top button) doesn't do anything, what am i missing
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pmSome santy interactions that pop out to me as odd...like, santy doesn't seem concerned w/ solving that slank slot whatsoeverSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pmTell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
I pressured Dz and they hard npc claimed , so of course I wont give them more attention lol.
At this point I might take a break from thread because the level lf reads regarding my slot is kinda ridiculous and I dont if I can handle them in a civiliced manner tbh.
I still think that a fair and still kinda basic analysis of D2 is clearing for me and I will take that read to my grave /shrug
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
If only someone could think of a way to count votes at the top of the page in an easy to find place that didn’t require a plug-in
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Try adding the current post number instead of the 0 for the EoD5 postnumber.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ahhhhhh I can see it both ways, Schia is town/NPC but not here at all so it’s better to chop someone who’s talking and contributing and Mafia are pivoting away from that because Schia’s an easy vote as-is and also possibly an NPC, so they can be purged or otherwise left for later.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:03 pm I guess I could yeet Schia, too.
I don’t really think Illario or Schia are even in the game but there’s probably at least a single slammer wolf.
Or
Schia is Mafia but not here at all so mafia is pivoting away to protect an inactive scumbuddy
The simpler explanation requires less explanation, but there’s no clear answer either
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Nobody posted the vote count. Ergo nobody’s vote counts according to the rules.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
[VOTE:
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #6535
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (62), JaggedJimmyJay (40), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5)
jackofhearts2005 (3): Schiavetto (41), pyxxy (72), nutella (371)
nutella (3): katze (205), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (58), ilario (79)
santygrass (3): Creature (124), Guillotine (200), falcon45ca (93)
michelle (3): TonyStarkPrime (31), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
neon (2): Lilypetal (136), EnderWiggin (240)
ranmilia (2): iaafr (293), Porscha (183)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (88), Lumi (185)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (114), Inawordyes (119)
ilario (2): Michelle (267), santygrass (366)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (336), Vivax (171)
vivax (2): Ranmilia (221), Seanzie (110)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
marmot (1): Marmot (98)
scotty (1): Sloonei (41)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (88)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (194)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (109)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (223)
lilypetal (1): DeeZees (111)
manny (1): Manny (318)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (80)
golden (1): lucy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (29)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
katze (1): G-Man (31)
ricochet (1): sprityo (39)
pyxxy (1): Neon (231)
hollowkatt (1): tutuu (94)
SoD: #0 EoD: #6535
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (62), JaggedJimmyJay (40), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5)
jackofhearts2005 (3): Schiavetto (41), pyxxy (72), nutella (371)
nutella (3): katze (205), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (58), ilario (79)
santygrass (3): Creature (124), Guillotine (200), falcon45ca (93)
michelle (3): TonyStarkPrime (31), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
neon (2): Lilypetal (136), EnderWiggin (240)
ranmilia (2): iaafr (293), Porscha (183)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (88), Lumi (185)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (114), Inawordyes (119)
ilario (2): Michelle (267), santygrass (366)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (336), Vivax (171)
vivax (2): Ranmilia (221), Seanzie (110)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
marmot (1): Marmot (98)
scotty (1): Sloonei (41)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (88)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (194)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (109)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (223)
lilypetal (1): DeeZees (111)
manny (1): Manny (318)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (80)
golden (1): lucy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (29)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
katze (1): G-Man (31)
ricochet (1): sprityo (39)
pyxxy (1): Neon (231)
hollowkatt (1): tutuu (94)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
i thought they said to leave it as 0 but ill try
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nope still nothing
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
just tried adding current post number and nope
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
honestly yeah theres few enough people in thread that we could use a poll now @MacDougall lolJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:08 pm If only someone could think of a way to count votes at the top of the page in an easy to find place that didn’t require a plug-in
i wont even have my computer over christmas so if i live that long (god forbid) i wont be able to help
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Demand your money back then.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Schia is never town here ftr . But still NPC equity and just a insta turboyeet if they are alive after purge so I dont think its a optimal slot to yeet? Idk
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Lumi
Can you write a script that works on mobile real quick?
Can you write a script that works on mobile real quick?
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@Manny you have to at least set previous eod/sod so it doesn't count votes from before
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
but how did you get it to post anything at all aaaaa
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
if i can get it working on PC i can post VC's till i get yeeted on d7 lmao
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Agreed.santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:11 pm Schia is never town here ftr . But still NPC equity and just a insta turboyeet if they are alive after purge so I dont think its a optimal slot to yeet? Idk
But like….if you have 4 wolves and one is gonna be really busy, those last second 5 posts could in theory carry a wolf far if the rest of the team stays hidden.
Idk. I’m trying to justify ideas for a mindset I haven’t been in and I think that’s just gonna catch npcs.
Which is why we should yeet Falcon js
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
wait it just decided to work all of a sudden
i changed nothing lol it just posted this time
Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6540
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (90), santygrass (73)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (77)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (23)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (46)
i changed nothing lol it just posted this time
Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6540
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (90), santygrass (73)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (77)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (23)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (46)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (82)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (82)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
that should be right
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Try changing the EoD3 number to the true EoD4 number and then change the EoD4 number to 0 and then try to post a D4 vote count (this should trick it into giving the D5 VC)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I still have my D3 read that the tutuu kill pointed at probably my wagon having a scum member. Now its a group reduced to Dz/Vivax/Pyxxy . It may be dumb but I think that Dz is still NPC tho I have slme waver , and between Pyxxy and Vivax I think that Vivax is most likely scum. Their votes D2 were super scummy and me having doubts on Vivax is from fear of them also being an npc lol
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
look at the image i pasted a few posts ago and use those post nums for d1-4
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
lol this wagon spread thonutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:13 pm Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
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ilario (1): Michelle (37)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (18)
vivax (2): Seanzie (92), santygrass (75)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (85)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)
test
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (18)
vivax (2): Seanzie (92), santygrass (75)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (85)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Hally why Falcon?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:13 pm Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0
Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (82)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Jack you need to correctly spell falcon for the vote to count fwiw
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i'm almost top poster today but of all people to beat me it's seanzie loool
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aight i got it working somehow lmfao
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?
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i talked about his treatment of me earlier toosantygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:16 pm Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?
like he expressed some reason he thought i *could* be wolfing but clarified that he still thinks i'm probably town and it kind of felt like papering over tmi and/or testing the water on if i'm pushable bc a couple others have sussed me
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Now imagine if both Schia and Silverkeith came near EoD and fill the minimum post 2 min before Day ends or something like that. Epic gamer moment
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[VOTE:
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i think we should let it rand between 5 wagons obviously
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ahhh yeh I remember it kk .nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:18 pmi talked about his treatment of me earlier toosantygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:16 pm Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?
like he expressed some reason he thought i *could* be wolfing but clarified that he still thinks i'm probably town and it kind of felt like papering over tmi and/or testing the water on if i'm pushable bc a couple others have sussed me
Damned by the hedge , tragic.
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