The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:50 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

Boquise and Dizzy are my two biggest blindspots in this game. I haven’t pinned down a solid read on anything that either of them have done.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:54 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:50 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

Boquise and Dizzy are my two biggest blindspots in this game. I haven’t pinned down a solid read on anything that either of them have done.

But
You
are
Boquise?

Boq, I love you. Did I tell you that?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:50 pm The game being insanely slow actually fits my general attitude towards mafia right now. So thank you for that.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:37 am @Boquise give me a time when we can realtime for like 30m

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:45 am @TonyStarkPrime can u explain the moontwink vote

@Boquise what is your stance on twinks? missionary?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:59 am
boq good vibes, though less active rn.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn

Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:10 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Likely no strategy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:24 pm @Violet You know what's funny? I've already caught both you and Rico. But we can pretend I haven't for a while.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:24 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn

Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.

Bussing? It's more common than you think.

So I'm egging this on.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:49 pm @lucy You should probably catch mafia today, or tell me if I already did. Or else I'm probably going to tunnel you before you can tunnel me.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

Spacedaisy
Lucy
Dizzy
Moonwink
Violet
Boquise
Ricochet
TonystarkPrime

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn

Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:26 pmDizzy, what is your plan to solve the game right now? Who/what are you looking at, and what sort of things do you think will be revealing to you? Is there anything we can do to help you?

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

Spacedaisy
Lucy
Dizzy
Moonwink
Violet
Boquise
Ricochet
TonystarkPrime

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:35 pmThe scenario I was dreading most was the two of us both rolling mafia in this environment. I was trying to conceptualize what a gameplan for that would look like. It was a nightmare.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:49 pm @lucy You should probably catch mafia today, or tell me if I already did. Or else I'm probably going to tunnel you before you can tunnel me.

on d1 i could tell there was one in u and chet, but that wasn’t a read to put put into the thread since bad news if i was wrong i’d get less influence late game, so i’m very inclined to follow u on chet since my confidence is fairly strong, although unfortunately it’s not a god read where i’m 100% right

why do u suspect violet

also boq/epi/moon town
idk about anyone else because i’m not looking at playerlist

and i know u have many years of experience with twinks, but as a twink or with them?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:49 pm @lucy You should probably catch mafia today, or tell me if I already did. Or else I'm probably going to tunnel you before you can tunnel me.

on d1 i could tell there was one in u and chet, but that wasn’t a read to put put into the thread since bad news if i was wrong i’d get less influence late game, so i’m very inclined to follow u on chet since my confidence is fairly strong, although unfortunately it’s not a god read where i’m 100% right

why do u suspect violet

also boq/epi/moon town
idk about anyone else because i’m not looking at playerlist

and i know u have many years of experience with twinks, but as a twink or with them?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Mafia being either Rico/Violet OR TSP/Boq seems likely in my head. But then again, I voted TH while being frozen and crying, so

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

I caught boq very easily last game we played, 99% chance he's not scum here

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:02 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

I caught boq very easily last game we played, 99% chance he's not scum here

Comforting. But are you? CAUSE IF SO I CAUGHT YOU AND DOLBY ON PAGE 1 AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:03 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Dolby was on mislynch, maybe someone else complied, I’ll have to do my reads on this angle.

Dizzy said in hood they didn’t wish to create a tie or move to lucy.

Dizzy’s amplifies suspicions of me with a link with Violet because in chat I proposed using the magic action on someone mid-activity, and Violet’s D1 was almost blank among the lowest active.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:02 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

I caught boq very easily last game we played, 99% chance he's not scum here

Comforting. But are you? CAUSE IF SO I CAUGHT YOU AND DOLBY ON PAGE 1 AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

1) if I am mafia with Chet you're forcing me to bus or tunnel me
2) i considered this and you set this up intentionally
3) I don't mind dying d3

but otherwise your methods are pretty obvious, if I was mafia or town I'd have the same reaction (mostly because the trap is obvious), if I was mafia I'd probably tell you to go elsewhere because we both know you aren't as confident as you come off as

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:03 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Dolby was on mislynch, maybe someone else complied, I’ll have to do my reads on this angle.

Dizzy said in hood they didn’t wish to create a tie or move to lucy.

Dizzy’s amplifies suspicions of me with a link with Violet because in chat I proposed using the magic action on someone mid-activity, and Violet’s D1 was almost blank among the lowest active.

Ok, but you did argue we could use it on Ruri, correct?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:11 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:02 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

I caught boq very easily last game we played, 99% chance he's not scum here

Comforting. But are you? CAUSE IF SO I CAUGHT YOU AND DOLBY ON PAGE 1 AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

1) if I am mafia with Chet you're forcing me to bus or tunnel me
2) i considered this and you set this up intentionally
3) I don't mind dying d3

but otherwise your methods are pretty obvious, if I was mafia or town I'd have the same reaction (mostly because the trap is obvious), if I was mafia I'd probably tell you to go elsewhere because we both know you aren't as confident as you come off as

I think you misunderstand me.
I have set no trap.
I'm referring back to me calling out Dolby's question to you, which I found oddly specific and almost nit-picky, in a way that could be teammate indicative.
So if you are in fact mafia, that page 1 call out was correct, and I want to feel good about it, even if I don't mafia read you now.

And if I'm coming across as confident, that is my mistake lol

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm you do play extremely well though dizzy, the particular tactic I will steal because I'm fairly sure you've used this before, it'd work on most people but not when you are calculating as me

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:03 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pm @everyone: what do you think was the mafia team's likely strategy at the end of Day 1?

Dolby was on mislynch, maybe someone else complied, I’ll have to do my reads on this angle.

Dizzy said in hood they didn’t wish to create a tie or move to lucy.

Dizzy’s amplifies suspicions of me with a link with Violet because in chat I proposed using the magic action on someone mid-activity, and Violet’s D1 was almost blank among the lowest active.

Ok, but you did argue we could use it on Ruri, correct?

On someone who was almost lynch of the Day? Yes.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:16 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm you do play extremely well though dizzy, the particular tactic I will steal because I'm fairly sure you've used this before, it'd work on most people but not when you are calculating as me

I mean, there was no tactic, but I probably do use tactics. I used to be full of tactics.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:11 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:02 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:59 pm Most of the things Boq says, I just find very strange. Don't know if that should tell me something

I caught boq very easily last game we played, 99% chance he's not scum here

Comforting. But are you? CAUSE IF SO I CAUGHT YOU AND DOLBY ON PAGE 1 AND YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

1) if I am mafia with Chet you're forcing me to bus or tunnel me
2) i considered this and you set this up intentionally
3) I don't mind dying d3

but otherwise your methods are pretty obvious, if I was mafia or town I'd have the same reaction (mostly because the trap is obvious), if I was mafia I'd probably tell you to go elsewhere because we both know you aren't as confident as you come off as

I think you misunderstand me.
I have set no trap.
I'm referring back to me calling out Dolby's question to you, which I found oddly specific and almost nit-picky, in a way that could be teammate indicative.
So if you are in fact mafia, that page 1 call out was correct, and I want to feel good about it, even if I don't mafia read you now.

And if I'm coming across as confident, that is my mistake lol

you always come across as confident tonally

"I really enjoy that you describe me as alluring. =p
I don't know, SPF. My start of the game, before I had actually read the whole game, is just me saying stuff to make things happen to myself. That is normal. I don't have a specific point in mind with everything I say, especially this early. I'm just trying to form a game view and see how I feel about it. And I'm also trying to just talk to people. I don't really know what you expect or feel like you're missing from me, if anything. I thin my play so far has been normal me-stuff, quite open, if a bit low energy or calm. But the whole game feels like that.

Actually, let me say something about my process that I think to be true or true enough. I'm not very big on analyzing single posts in succession, as in doing an ISO and say that this and this could be scummy and this and that feels towny. I feel like town are prone to say scummy shit all the time. We will always have a gap between us from just being individual players with individual processes. I'm really interested to learn everyone's process in general. I find it helpful, and I also just find it interesting. What I do find directive for myself when it comes to specific posts is when I see a post I feel only town would post, or a certain player only would say something (or take a line) as town. I've found that to be more reliable. For example, I think Mist is more likely to get annoyed by Sloonei wasting posts as town. Other than that it's a lot of overall vibes, or how players feel in conversation. Part of this is meta probably, where I have it. And then I question things that stick out to me or doesn't make sense to me that a player would think. At the same time I always have a thousand other thoughts that are possibilities, and I take mental notes (though I will attempt making them physical this game, it's finals after all lol). This is often about interaction. For example, I think that it's very unlikely the world is scum!you vs town!Dobby for how you went "Actually, I didn't rvs you, I thought you were being scummy", retroactively. Just didn't feel like how scum would talk to town. Now that I'm saying it, I don't know if it's as strong, but it's something I noted. I often don't share all of these thoughts immediately, cause I want to see how I feel in the future and also let interactions develop."

furthermore you always set traps lmao

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:24 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:16 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm you do play extremely well though dizzy, the particular tactic I will steal because I'm fairly sure you've used this before, it'd work on most people but not when you are calculating as me

I mean, there was no tactic, but I probably do use tactics. I used to be full of tactics.

you still are, you're like me when I was 15, every message baits something you already know to be true and sometimes you get even more information out

I'm no longer 15 but I can see through you nevertheless

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:27 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:24 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:16 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:09 pm you do play extremely well though dizzy, the particular tactic I will steal because I'm fairly sure you've used this before, it'd work on most people but not when you are calculating as me

I mean, there was no tactic, but I probably do use tactics. I used to be full of tactics.

you still are, you're like me when I was 15, every message baits something you already know to be true and sometimes you get even more information out

I'm no longer 15 but I can see through you nevertheless

Aw. I love being you at 15.

It's good you can see through me. I struggle with that myself sometimes. You're everything I want to be when I'm Lucy years old!

Shouldn't that also mean you know my alignment by now?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:24 pm I kind of lost motivation from how I was feeling D1 and especially after D1 this game. Sometimes I feel like nobody really is good at being town - or rather, nobody is really good at reads or have a high read accuracy over time. Being town is of course about other things than being right. Being mafia is much easier. But I also find it very stressful, so I rarely enjoy myself when I'm mafia. This is probably not that interesting nor relevant, but in short, video mafia is cool and you should all play when it happens =p

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:34 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:24 pm I kind of lost motivation from how I was feeling D1 and especially after D1 this game. Sometimes I feel like nobody really is good at being town - or rather, nobody is really good at reads or have a high read accuracy over time. Being town is of course about other things than being right. Being mafia is much easier. But I also find it very stressful, so I rarely enjoy myself when I'm mafia. This is probably not that interesting nor relevant, but in short, video mafia is cool and you should all play when it happens =p

I've only had 3 mafia rands in 5 months after 20 games in that timespan, I find town to be repetitive, it's nice playing with someone like you who as town you're either an auto NK or you'll catch mafia, easiest players to deal with (with my read accuracy I'm in the same box atm)

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:36 pm dizzy, post game can we talk mafia theory?
I've been meaning to ask you but you seem rather busy at all times