The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:52 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:51 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:47 pm oops. I had about 7 paragraphs of shit typed out and my phone refreshed. Fucknuggets

well if it said anything bad about me, then good riddance

As a matter of fact, it didn’t. But thanks. I would think you would appreciate additive content to this game. Do you suspect me, Porscha?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I dunno yet. i'm down to see if you get NK'd tonight and go from there

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:29 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:28 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:27 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:11 pm Ruri (2): Lily, Moonwink
MacDougall (1): Seanzie
Porscha (1): DrWilgy
Cape90 (1): MacDougall
Arcbell (1): Neon
DrWilgy (1): Scotty
Neon (1): Cape

Fixed

FIXED

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:54 pm who is voting who : (

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm I think I'm fully committed to not going after Cape or Seanzie even if Seanzie seemed to imply earlier that he may not be townreading Cape as much as he was. Until further notice, I'm considering them town.

Scotty seems frustrated with the game state and the low energy levels, and I'm going to take it as genuine and, thus, towny.

I don't remember anything Wilgy has said D2 aside from maybe wanting to go after me, but not before getting rid of Ruri. He had a good D1, and Michelle liked him, so I don't mind keeping him around longer.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:59 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm I think I'm fully committed to not going after Cape or Seanzie even if Seanzie seemed to imply earlier that he may not be townreading Cape as much as he was. Until further notice, I'm considering them town.

Scotty seems frustrated with the game state and the low energy levels, and I'm going to take it as genuine and, thus, towny.

I don't remember anything Wilgy has said D2 aside from maybe wanting to go after me, but not before getting rid of Ruri. He had a good D1, and Michelle liked him, so I don't mind keeping him around longer.

what bout me?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:17 pm Possible voting candidates and comments:

1. Ruri - I am abandoning this pretty soon if she don't show up and I would hope yall follow suit tbh.

2. falcon45ca - Now look, he had tunnel on me. Asked around for reads. Said Macdougall was town. Called me pockety and icky for 40 which is pretty funny because it really wasn't pockety and it would have been more valid if he had called it hedgy. Hasn't talked today. I would say no to this but I could see why other people would want this.

3. Arcbell - The whole energy modulation and vibes read is EV+. Felt like Arcbell has been slightly off. Hardly anything today. Insert thing I have already said about Arcbell here.

4. Neon - Feel nothing about beginning posts. Said they were bored so they wanted everyone to say what anime they liked, voted Moonwink for liking Sylveon. Literally the whole time hasn't felt like they actually done anything AI day 1. Neon's responses in 408/411 seem towny in regards to Porscha. Voted Arcbell and said they aren't moving.

5. Porscha - Has really felt like town today, I do NOT understand this push as of now

6. Moonwink - Has felt jumpy at the opportunity to dunk someone as of late, they voted Porscha, then Mac, now Ruri today. Had the read me/seanzie are not w/w. Had similar thoguhts as I did about Seanzie. Pretty standard day 1 as far as gameplay, felt like "insert mafia player" day 1.

7. lilypetal - Had a chainsaw defense of Porscha, has suspicion on Macdougall. I feel like this is kinda risky but if scum, does give okay info, would be better if there were more then like... 2 scum u know.

8. Macdougall - Meh. I think if Neon/Mac were w/w, Mac's response to my question would not have been so mild, ie. Mac overjustifying his position versus 577, also 199 reaffirms this. Says Seanzie voting him is townie. Says I outed for not reading, but I was towny earlier. Arcbell is town says Mac. Said Scotty was town for 193. Says Moonwink is also wolfy. Retracted this saying NKA pointed to falcon/Seanzie being wolves.

I would say I would probably go with Neon or lilypetal with that said, not sure what yall seeing in Neon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:46 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 am

Moonwink wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:58 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:44 am I cannot understand why Ace got killed by anyone

serial killer needs to kill players the mafia aren't going to shoot

Are you outting yourself as mafia here to give the SK instructions on how to make their nightkills? :P

I feel like this is what SK did with Ace already probably so no.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:54 pm What does scum having 1 KP mean, they only get one shot or one shot per night?

I feel like you could chalk this up to "being performative" but otherwise, I feel like wolf Arcbell would likely not ask this if Arcbell was wolf

Reading Arcbell (aphelios) with SBPC doesn't work too well
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Ultralight this was an aphelios town game where he posted only 12 times. I was mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ic-Game-v3 this was a game aphelios was in and was mafia and posted over 300 times in. I was not in this game

with all this aside, I don't townread Arcbell by any stretch but worth considering

I did consider and have been going back and forth on that KP comment. I don’t know Arc but it’s definitely a dumbtell that I would and probably have used in similar iterations as wolf. I know it’s possible for wolves to ask questions about their own abilities.

That being said, I was also in the boat of thinking “Mafia has 1 KP” to mean they had x1 kill in the whole game until (you?) explained otherwise. So maybe he really is not mafia.

Could be SK still tho. He has already admitted to that.

So Arcbell probably not wolf, good SK candidate.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:46 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 am

Moonwink wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:58 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:44 am I cannot understand why Ace got killed by anyone

serial killer needs to kill players the mafia aren't going to shoot

Are you outting yourself as mafia here to give the SK instructions on how to make their nightkills? :P

I feel like this is what SK did with Ace already probably so no.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:54 pm What does scum having 1 KP mean, they only get one shot or one shot per night?

I feel like you could chalk this up to "being performative" but otherwise, I feel like wolf Arcbell would likely not ask this if Arcbell was wolf

Reading Arcbell (aphelios) with SBPC doesn't work too well
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Ultralight this was an aphelios town game where he posted only 12 times. I was mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ic-Game-v3 this was a game aphelios was in and was mafia and posted over 300 times in. I was not in this game

with all this aside, I don't townread Arcbell by any stretch but worth considering

I did consider and have been going back and forth on that KP comment. I don’t know Arc but it’s definitely a dumbtell that I would and probably have used in similar iterations as wolf. I know it’s possible for wolves to ask questions about their own abilities.

That being said, I was also in the boat of thinking “Mafia has 1 KP” to mean they had x1 kill in the whole game until (you?) explained otherwise. So maybe he really is not mafia.

Could be SK still tho. He has already admitted to that.

So Arcbell probably not wolf, good SK candidate.

Lmao, I am flattered people think I am aphelios

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:46 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 am

Moonwink wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:58 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:44 am I cannot understand why Ace got killed by anyone

serial killer needs to kill players the mafia aren't going to shoot

Are you outting yourself as mafia here to give the SK instructions on how to make their nightkills? :P

I feel like this is what SK did with Ace already probably so no.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:54 pm What does scum having 1 KP mean, they only get one shot or one shot per night?

I feel like you could chalk this up to "being performative" but otherwise, I feel like wolf Arcbell would likely not ask this if Arcbell was wolf

Reading Arcbell (aphelios) with SBPC doesn't work too well
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Ultralight this was an aphelios town game where he posted only 12 times. I was mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ic-Game-v3 this was a game aphelios was in and was mafia and posted over 300 times in. I was not in this game

with all this aside, I don't townread Arcbell by any stretch but worth considering

I did consider and have been going back and forth on that KP comment. I don’t know Arc but it’s definitely a dumbtell that I would and probably have used in similar iterations as wolf. I know it’s possible for wolves to ask questions about their own abilities.

That being said, I was also in the boat of thinking “Mafia has 1 KP” to mean they had x1 kill in the whole game until (you?) explained otherwise. So maybe he really is not mafia.

Could be SK still tho. He has already admitted to that.

So Arcbell probably not wolf, good SK candidate.

Lmao, I am flattered people think I am aphelios

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:20 pm don't you use the same pfp on both sites or am I misremembering

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm I think I'm fully committed to not going after Cape or Seanzie even if Seanzie seemed to imply earlier that he may not be townreading Cape as much as he was. Until further notice, I'm considering them town.

Scotty seems frustrated with the game state and the low energy levels, and I'm going to take it as genuine and, thus, towny.

I don't remember anything Wilgy has said D2 aside from maybe wanting to go after me, but not before getting rid of Ruri. He had a good D1, and Michelle liked him, so I don't mind keeping him around longer.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm I think I'm fully committed to not going after Cape or Seanzie even if Seanzie seemed to imply earlier that he may not be townreading Cape as much as he was. Until further notice, I'm considering them town.

Scotty seems frustrated with the game state and the low energy levels, and I'm going to take it as genuine and, thus, towny.

I don't remember anything Wilgy has said D2 aside from maybe wanting to go after me, but not before getting rid of Ruri. He had a good D1, and Michelle liked him, so I don't mind keeping him around longer.

What is there to add? Nothing has changed this cycle.

Half the folks here are just mia, so let's get to hacking the weeds away.

I think there's a good chance Porscha is scum. Lily has some points per Michelle's death. I get constant Wolfy vibes from you and saying that you've glazed over me this day doesn't really inspire anything great.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

Bruh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:25 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

Bruh

Yes, bruh?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

MacDougall (2): Seanzie, Lilypetal
Ruri (1): Moonwink
Porscha (1): DrWilgy
Cape90 (1): MacDougall
Arcbell (1): Neon
DrWilgy (1): Scotty
Neon (1): Cape

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:29 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:22 pm Anyone know the VC?

MacDougall (2): Seanzie, Lilypetal
Ruri (1): Moonwink
Porscha (1): DrWilgy
Cape90 (1): MacDougall
Arcbell (1): Neon
DrWilgy (1): Scotty
Neon (1): Cape

Thanks! You're lock!town now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm I think I'm fully committed to not going after Cape or Seanzie even if Seanzie seemed to imply earlier that he may not be townreading Cape as much as he was. Until further notice, I'm considering them town.

Scotty seems frustrated with the game state and the low energy levels, and I'm going to take it as genuine and, thus, towny.

I don't remember anything Wilgy has said D2 aside from maybe wanting to go after me, but not before getting rid of Ruri. He had a good D1, and Michelle liked him, so I don't mind keeping him around longer.

What is there to add? Nothing has changed this cycle.

Half the folks here are just mia, so let's get to hacking the weeds away.

I think there's a good chance Porscha is scum. Lily has some points per Michelle's death. I get constant Wolfy vibes from you and saying that you've glazed over me this day doesn't really inspire anything great.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 pm I think there's a good chance Porscha is scum

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:46 pm That last vote count Porscha posted is wrong.

Here's the actual one:

Ruri (2): Lily, Moonwink
MacDougall (2): Seanzie, Lily
Porscha (1): DrWilgy
Cape90 (2): MacDougall, Neon
DrWilgy (1): Scotty
Arcbell (1): Cape

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:45 pm unpopular opinion but i'm really quite okay with ruri flip

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:46 pm Oh wait, lol, that's not right

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:47 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:45 pm unpopular opinion but i'm really quite okay with ruri flip

it would be random essentially.

If Ruri is mafia, this whole game has also been spiderman pointing gif

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:50 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine
ok

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:02 pm The Hunt for the Captain Crunch Serial Killer

If anyone cares to read, ima delve into finding the SK:

Spoiler: show

The optimal SK play in this game is to straddle the line between solvey and blendy. That way the mafia ideally don’t kill them. This leads to players that either steer the thread or are high visibility. Now this is a strategy that not everyone might take, but I have to look at this from a logical standpoint.

So I’m a go through players and work out how likely they are to be SK based on this logic.
Top 5 posters (that aren’t me):
-Moonwink
-Cape
-Porscha
-Macdougall
-Neon

If those 5, Cape imo has been doing the most thorough digging this game. I rule him out of SK territory.
Porscha has been…prickly, is probably the word I would use. Rather combative and a solid presence throughout game. I rule her out of SK.
Moonwink has been helpful enough to add plenty of original takes and has the second highest posts. I’d rule her out.

Mac is a question mark for meta reasons. He’s popped in with mostly forgettable comments. I can only conjecture how Mac would behave as SK, don’t know if I’ve seen it before. But he has a precedence in games and this could be an erstwhile strategy here. He’s neither been a domineering town nor a suspicious pooPoo peepeee.
-Above average SK equity

Neon had a lot of posts D1 (I think 2nd highest) and has cooled off considerably D2. A part of me wonders if SK Neon would have gone a little too gung-ho and purposefully backed off on D2 so as not to be too visible. It’s not like Neon’s takes or reads were that memorable to begin with.
-Above average SK equity


Wilgy. My biggest wrinkle with Wilgy being SK is that he pushed his take on HK to ultimately get him yeeted, and is taking similar initiative here on D2 too. In context, it’s not a huge push. Almost shruggy even. He’s middle of the pack in post count, which is where I’d expect the SK to be. Doing just enough to appear town but not enough to be town leader.
-Slightly Below Average Scum Equity

Seanzie is anti town. No way to sugar coat it. He’s making weak votes and even weaker reasoning behind said votes. Appears to not have a handle on the game state. Exactly middle of the road in posts.
Not only could he be SK, he’s not even townsiding.
-High SK equity

falcon hasn’t posted since D1. But what he did post was a sheeping strategy in D1. Jumped on the HK wagon. That’s not necessarily a damming piece, but he has about as much agency in this game as a horse at a race track.
-High SK equity

lilypetal has been fast and loose, while also slightly blendy. She came into D2 calling Neon the SK, which is pretty brazen. Could be projection. Michelle bring her main detractor makes me feel she has more scum equity than SK equity however.
-below average SK equity

Arcbell started the game by outright admitting to being the SK. For the lol’s? I’m not sure. He’s also openwolfed. He reads more as a jester than anything else in this game. A jestery game isn’t a terrible strategy as SK to get to the end. Though it’s also a losing strategy if he gets lynched before then. I almost want to read him as not SK because of that.
-slightly below average SK equity

Ruri is playing this game.
-who the fuck knows. Slightly Above average SK equity

My ranks from MOST likely to LEAST likely to be SK:
-Falcon
-Seanzie
-Neon
-Mac
-Ruri
-Wilgy
-Arcbell
-Lily

-Moonwink
-Porscha
-Cape