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Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:13 pm**

The good news is I've had a very productive day in terms of thesis writing.
The bad news is I'm drained of would-be mafia energy.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:22 pm**

Bullshit. Show us your thesis.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:22 pm**

:rolleeyes:

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:23 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:22 pm Bullshit. Show us your thesis.

it's not done yet.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:27 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.

If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.
If this happens I recommend nutella.
Suppose the Harbinger is mafia.
Then the Monitor, who I think is alive, can go ballistic.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:08 pm Dizzy is the monitor, known by a mafia member harbinger and killed and janitored day 2 for precisely that purpose
I doubt this is true.

apparently it’s impossible but it’s a fun theory

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:28 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:04 pm JJJ lynch before sig. Do it.

okay

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:04 pm JJJ lynch before sig. Do it.

Epi I thought your avatar was a Lego minifigure but I’ve just realized it’s not.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm**

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm**

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:32 pm**

Everything sig does today can only be viewed through the lens of wifom, if viewed at all. Does anyone care to analyze dat nanook vote?

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:32 pm Everything sig does today can only be viewed through the lens of wifom, if viewed at all. Does anyone care to analyze dat nanook vote?

memes

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:26 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 pm I scumread everyone with a vote right now. Ahhhhhh multiball.
Ok, why does multiball matter when you suspect everyone with a vote? In the purest sense, it’s still an either-or, black-white, good-bad situation if you are a civvie. This feels like it’s for show.

Because some of my scumreads are not compatible to be on the same team with each other.

I don't care if you think it's for show. I'm amused that all the wagons right now are lynches that could compete with each other, yet could also all be scum.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:36 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well

Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:38 pm**

You call the case against Jay paranoia bullshit. I largely agree. But we’re paranoid. The rational side of me says we need to lynch someone on Mac’s team and I look at the sea of options and see nulls at best. So who do we lynch?

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:40 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well
Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

blah blah strengthen other baddie team blah blah

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well
Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

Allows for people to slink this day out, leaving Sig opens up some amount of control over scum actions, he’s fun to have around and is a known entity, we need to have some push on other leads, his role is probably a net plus for town even if it’s insanely annoying outside of the fact that he can use it to protect the AM tonight which gives one last shot at Harbinger.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

The confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?

I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.

Posted: **Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:44 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts
You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

I mean, why pick those three names?

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

This is gonna sound stupid but...what if Mac doesn't know who the Antimonitor is?

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.
The confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?

I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.

I think it is highly likely that that scum team is aware or reasonably confident of the identity of the antimonitor. The rest of the team will be scared off because of what happened to Sig but Mac has no reason to be scared like such.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:04 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.
This is gonna sound stupid but...what if Mac doesn't know who the Antimonitor is?

I think he does.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:04 am**

I have no guarantee that’s just what I’m picking up.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:12 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts
You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good
I mean, why pick those three names?

Read his post again. He said why

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:14 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts
You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good
I mean, why pick those three names?

1) Because your reactions to the Mac case are similar
2) You all townread each other
3) You're all dangerous as town compared to the others on the Sig wagon D3 (no offense ya'll) and are still alive
4) Jay and Juliets have basically the exact same reads on the players on the Sig wagon D3

Which is not to go into smaller individual reasons for suspecting Jay and to a lesser extent, you and Juliets.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:20 am**

The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:25 am**

There are twoish groups of people who largely share reads and who don’t trust each other. They comprise maybe half the players.

The other half are MIA today, feels like.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:25 am**

Though I’ve been pretty MIA so I’m not sure I quite get the thread feel

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:27 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:20 am The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.

No, there has to be Mac teammates on the Sig train. With an s at the end. As in not just Colin.
Wait what.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:29 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:20 am The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.
No, there has to be Mac teammates on the Sig train. With an s at the end. As in not just Colin.
Wait what.

I agree. I think it’s likely that it’s two or three.
I don’t think there’s any reason why particularly besides that I definitely would’ve taken the easy vote.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:54 am**

The best evidence in this thread that I am not on Mac's team can be viewed in my Day 2 posts. Mac was in line to be lynched, and while I favored a Radish lynch I did nothing of consequence to prevent the Mac lynch -- because he was suspicious too. Folks can go read that. Confirmation bias is bound to flare up as it always seems to when people view me as a suspect, but I'm not Mac's teammate. And if you give the slightest sliver of a shit about figuring that out, then that's what you should review.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:54 am**

Has ted said anything about my beefs?

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:55 am**

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] you're mafia. Die.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:59 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
That came to mind?

Nobody wanted to save Mac. Mac was doomed.

You may have felt that way. It'd explain your utter lack of conviction about Mac.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 am**

Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:01 am**

I have one more school busy day and then I’m free for 1 week cuz of corona.

Sorry for low activity peeps i’ll do better starting tonight

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:02 am**

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
uhh.... you?

No. What?

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:03 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:01 am I have one more school busy day and then I’m free for 1 week cuz of corona.

Sorry for low activity peeps i’ll do better starting tonight

Hold him to this if I am not around.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:04 am**

I don’t need babysitters it’s fine

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:04 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 am Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.

You can say the same for juliets and Sloonei.

And guess what? I don't care! They're town reads!

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:07 am**

Turnip Head voted Radish on D2. Mac asked him for help.

He voted off-wagon on D3.

His votes are worse than Colin's.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:10 am**

I see more viable suspects on the Mac wagon D3 than on the sig wagon.

tedxtr - could be
TonyStarkPrime - could be
G-Man - doubt it
Jackofhearts2005 - doubt it
Michelle - could be
Nanook - doubt it
sig - confirmed nope
sprityo - confirmed nope
Epignosis - could be
Tranq - could be

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:12 am**

Master's team guess as of right now:

MacDougall +

Turnip Head
ColinIsCool
tedxtr

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:23 am**

anecdotally, over half of all scum wins I’ve ever seen are “people who were almost on the chopping block and didn’t do much all game get barely not lynched” and much less than half are “scum masterminds run over town”. Almost all town wins are the former.
I’m still working through Jack and Jay’s alternatives today. But I see no reason outside of paranoia to accept Jack’s view that there must be mafia between JJJ, Sloonei, and Juliets and that scum must be on Sig etc even if I town read him and not Jay.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:32 am**

As long as you vote Jay, it's fine.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:37 am**

If y'all are truly this bananas, then remember the gifts I left you. I won't be able to spook you anymore.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:38 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:54 am The best evidence in this thread that I am not on Mac's team can be viewed in my Day 2 posts. Mac was in line to be lynched, and while I favored a Radish lynch I did nothing of consequence to prevent the Mac lynch -- because he was suspicious too. Folks can go read that. Confirmation bias is bound to flare up as it always seems to when people view me as a suspect, but I'm not Mac's teammate. And if you give the slightest sliver of a shit about figuring that out, then that's what you should review.

And be sure to shame those who didn't at least pay me the respect of looking at this. ^

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