The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:04 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:41 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:34 pm of what i've read i generally agree on your reads tbh ur just wrong on me

we specifically both think wilgy is town so nice
Yeh I'm kinda confident that If you keep posting I'll find you eventually even if rn I think you are the better yeet.

I still have a lot of people to sort so you solving today too will help me regardless I think
yeah i dont rly blame u nor do i take it personally this game is a bit too overwhelming for me to care too much and i understand ur pov

i do genuinely think you're the towniest player in the game though and for the good of town we should vote elsewhere

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:05 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:59 pm Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

Not until he really plays

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:07 am**

Lumi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:02 pm Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5108 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), Lumi (12), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (30), iaafr (1)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), Lilypetal (42), Jackofhearts2005 (6), falcon45ca (9)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (49), ilario (6)
deezees (2): Michelle (28), EnderWiggin (16)
lilypetal (2): santygrass (26), nutella (18)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (32)
manny (1): Manny (34)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (9)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (15)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

Such low activity should spew Neon not wolf

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:08 am**

I'll be back after work or later

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:13 am**

is thinking santy is super towny a thought crime?

sheesh

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:08 am**

They hated on you because you told the truth fwiw

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:13 am**

Just read Seanzie ISO. That was... Something

@Seanzie do you intend to play the game?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:29 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:24 pm iaafr nutella ran rondo
dizzy michelle santy
scotty seanzie

I forgot this. And also Ran died saying nutella was town with their last breath. Think I'll just lockclear nutella in my reads too and if it ends up being wrong I can blame tutuu

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:34 am**

@ilario talk to me about your read on Dr Wilg? And why is your WIM so low? I think that now half the NPC are purged and we have a better grasp on who is actually playing there shouldnt be more excuses to be so low on activity smh.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:39 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:24 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:13 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:49 am big ol' summary post for myself to keep track of things

Day 1 votecount with NPCs colored as uhhhhhhhhhh orange:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea(7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu,~Prince J~
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1):Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha and Hollowkat

D1 - golden died, modkills sabie12 and Sabiplz

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count, NPCs again are orange

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): MacDougall, katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, PrinceJ, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote counts orangeeeeeeeeeeeeee

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): MacDougall, Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died
modkills c4, guillo, chelsea and creature

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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So I think I can make a list of everyone alive? Spoiler because this is long enough as it is
Spoiler: show
drwilgy
EnderWiggin
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
Neon
nutella
Porscha
SilverKeith
Vivax

colouring the rest I found as NPCm adding infos

very useful thing, ty pyxxy
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:59 am DeZees
DrWilg
Ender
Falcon
Hally
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Lily
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Pyxyy
Ricochet
Santy
Seanzie
Schiavetto
Silverkeith
Sprityo
Vivax

this is the list i have
we should Iso inside this list from now on ig
Okay, L1 thoughts here as the resident “I literally haven’t been playing this game except to make the bare minimum up until now and I basically haven’t read anything before SoD today” person, but in looking at the all the EoD wagons so far, one constantly theme that I see is that Wilgy, DeeZees, Ender and Vivax are basically always on the top wagon or it’s CW:

D1, all four vote together on Golden
D2, Ender Vivax and DeeZees vote Santy, Wilgy votes HK
D3, Wilgy is top wagon, Ender and Vivax both on him, DeeZees on Vivax, Wilgy didn’t vote(?)

Ender and Vivax consistently vote together, DeeZees votes together with them until Wilgy is on the line, and Wilgy is always around the top wagons but doesn’t necessarily vote with the others besides the first day

What to actually make of this info, I’m not sure yet. But there is a clear pattern of buddying up, and I have no context of prior happenings and no ability to ISO rn, so I am fully aware that it may have a simple explanation that I just don’t have the knowledge of

Also, since Santy didn’t die D2 despite being tied at EoD with HK and both wagons having two confirmed NPCs, that means at least 1 if not more of pyxxy/Vivax/Ender/DeeZees is an NPC? Which means that there’s a 75% chance of my thoughts being blown entirely out of the water as-is, but hey I’m trying my best here with no info

To answer the last part. Dezees claimed NPC. Pyxxy seems NPC , and Vivax seems like player but wouldnt surprise me for them to also be NPC.

Ender is player to me tho for sure and a townie one. Don think there two mafias in that group , like the buddying up and voting together from so early with that many players I think its unlikely

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:44 am**

@pyxxy Talk to me. What even is your read on me? Like I think you are using parts of my posts and dismissing all the rest of my content to just vote without any nuance at all and it stinks if you end up being a player tbh. So talk to me about your read pls and what do you think of the peoplr that tr me

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:56 am**

Also I think at this point trying to 'hide' who a real player is or isnt is kinda moot since mafia is likely to kill players anyways at this point so anyone trying to pass off as npc to survive at this point is anti-town .

Now I'mma do some wagon analysis for mafia too

**D1 wagons** golden>chelsea

golden (5): EnderWiggin, **Dyslexicon**, DeeZees, Vivax, DrWilgy

chelsea (2): ilario, Neon

D1 Wagons not saying much rn tbh. Like, if both Ilario and Neon are players, there are two players more in the Golden wagon , so in {Ender,Dezees,Vivax,Wilg} which seems highly likely anyways. At least I think Ender is obvplayer and Wilg kinda too.

**D2 wagons** hk > santy

santygrass (4): Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees

hollowkatt (4): **santygrass**, Jackofhearts2005, **Dyslexicon**, DrWilgy

We know for sure thanks to this that one in {Vivax,pyxxy,Ender,DeZees} is NPC . Then, if Jack isnt a player there should be 2 sure NPCs there. If Jack is a player the rest of them *could* be players.

Tbh overall I think it makes me more comfy with DeZees claiming NPC .

**D3 Wagons** Ran=DrWilgy

Ran (6) Nutella, Ender, Vivax, Jack, Ilario, Silverkeith

Ranmilia (3) Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal

This is juicy kindof. Think it for sure confirms that there are 3 NPCs in the Ran wagon. So in {Nutella,Ender,Vivax,Jack,Ilario,Silverkeith} . From that list, I think SKeith is the most obvious NPC. Ender is the obv player.

So between {Nutella,Vivax,Jack,Ilario} are 2 players and 2 NPCs. Kinda hard to read into it rn because I think there are odds of both nutella being a player or them being an NPC and trying to appear to be a player lol. Tho I think there are low.

So assumin Nutella player only one in (Vivax/Jack/ilario) is playing which is wowee. My bet rn would be Jack and Ilario as NPCs but it kinda gives me enough waver to not want to vote anyone in that group today

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:02 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:03 pm Rico and Vivax are probably harmless

Who is even in this game both NPCs and real players lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:13 pm Rico is wildly different than his last game where he was mafia. Just an observation

Not much from Dizzy ISO tbh. Prob clearing for Rico, and makes me feel even better about Ender I'd say hmm

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:03 am**

Hally ISO to long so I'm just still going to keep my vibe read and prob clear her atm since approach to the game is rand>v . And they are most likely to be NPC > Town Player > Mafia Player anyways

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:10 am**

Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue

I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am**

Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:33 am**

Lumi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:02 pm Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5108 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), Lumi (12), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (30), iaafr (1)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), Lilypetal (42), Jackofhearts2005 (6), falcon45ca (9)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (49), ilario (6)
deezees (2): Michelle (28), EnderWiggin (16)
lilypetal (2): santygrass (26), nutella (18)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (32)
manny (1): Manny (34)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (9)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (15)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

Wait I'm actually being wagoned.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:34 am**

If I was wolf Dizzy would've been N1'd tbh.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 am**

Mostly because I read Dizzy as player from D1 and hard defended them.

Neon is mildly obvious wolf here.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 am**

Santy probably town for the effort being put in?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:59 pm Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

NPC imo.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:36 am**

Schia is my second best guess for scum and I'm still side-eyeing Wilgy occasionally

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:36 am**

Anyway that's my wolfy pop-in before I fall asleep, night ya'll

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:07 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:10 am Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue

I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

I don't hate this list. Don't understand how Dizzy dying clears rico for you.
Here's the one you requested from me anyways, for the protocol. I'm feeling generous today.

Spoiler: show

Michelle's drop in kinda hasty, same for Ender. Low WIM drive-bys. Can relate perhaps. Mentioned earlier that I didn't like some of her posts. Ender I'll just townpile today.
Neon probs just trolling NPC at this point, but if she turns out to be a remaining player later I'd consider slaying. Seems improbable with how much ballsiness is required to pull that off though.

Would like to know what Porscha thinks about the yeet options while she screams in terror at the townreads thrown her way. The joys of being polarized eh ?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:10 am**

@EnderWiggin I think that looking at D2 wagons + Dz NPC claim they shouldnt be yeeted today at least since there is evidence that makes it likely that the noc claim is true.

I agree that Ilario seems more likely npc because the nuance/effort in the reads doesnt seem to be towny rn. Also fits better with my worldview ngl

Wilgy should be prob town for wagons yesterday and they had good posts imo.
Schia all I have looked so far are walrus related posts so I can only NPC read that and if they end up being sl8ve after purge just absolute murderize them . Or like, Town Scout them idk if we want to make sure earlier but that would involve a Scout hardclaim ig? Idk

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:12 am**

What do you refer / infer with Michelle drop being hasty? I didnt understand that part.

Neon seems to be an obvious player for how they reacted to some pushes btw, so take that into consideration ig , doesnt feel like trolling at all

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:13 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:02 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:03 pm Rico and Vivax are probably harmless

Who is even in this game both NPCs and real players lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:13 pm Rico is wildly different than his last game where he was mafia. Just an observation

Not much from Dizzy ISO tbh. Prob clearing for Rico, and makes me feel even better about Ender I'd say hmm

This . I think Scum would have much more options to pick in W!Rico worlds. And Rico is prob an NPC anyways tbfh

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:17 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:12 am What do you refer / infer with Michelle drop being hasty? I didnt understand that part.

Neon seems to be an obvious player for how they reacted to some pushes btw, so take that into consideration ig , doesnt feel like trolling at all

The way Michelle posted on this page was basically dive bombing. Not really AI just a funny visualization that came to mind.
We'll see about Neon I guess. Back and forth with Wiggins was meh and tbh confused the duck out of me. Not that it's hard in my current state of shambling and drooling.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:32 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:59 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:41 pm Some people here behave like they saw a ghost or something.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ftfy

Spoiler: show

almost good times, then someone became a war criminal and I joined the French Foreign Legion /s

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:46 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:17 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:12 am What do you refer / infer with Michelle drop being hasty? I didnt understand that part.

Neon seems to be an obvious player for how they reacted to some pushes btw, so take that into consideration ig , doesnt feel like trolling at all
The way Michelle posted on this page was basically dive bombing. Not really AI just a funny visualization that came to mind.
We'll see about Neon I guess. Back and forth with Wiggins was meh and tbh confused the duck out of me. Not that it's hard in my current state of shambling and drooling.

Dive bombing? What's that?

Ftr i am very busy

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:56 am**

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:39 pm Would also like to note that Iawy upped the anthe a lot on this day post volume wise, that stuck out a bit as we're mostly looking for peeps who laid low and then tried to make up for it.

Despite actually being active and reading along and not just skipping whatever’s been posted just to say “hi hello I’m back” with no care for thread progression, I’ve still basically done nothing in this game, and certainly nothing that qualities as “upping the ante”. This feels like a disingenuous read just to shine a spotlight on me

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 am**

@Vivax who are your scumreads?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:53 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:56 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:39 pm Would also like to note that Iawy upped the anthe a lot on this day post volume wise, that stuck out a bit as we're mostly looking for peeps who laid low and then tried to make up for it.
Despite actually being active and reading along and not just skipping whatever’s been posted just to say “hi hello I’m back” with no care for thread progression, I’ve still basically done nothing in this game, and certainly nothing that qualities as “upping the ante”. This feels like a disingenuous read just to shine a spotlight on me

Yeah my posts are too emo atp and the air around here is poisoned and darkly clouded and any attempts at getting any productivity accompanied by fun vibes seem to be futile. Wish I could say I'm playing this to the best of my ability but I'd be lying to myself and you.
I still maintain that a surge in posting in later phases is where I'd look to find scum and would like to see some consolidation before the inevitable CFDing starts and I'll likely be on phone again while hanging out with the fleshy benevolent crazy people.
Santy has a good ability to bring swing into the thread and the highest WIM, might just end up voting with him after all barring him trying to have me yeeted.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:01 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 am @Vivax who are your scumreads?

Adolfi Baba and the 40 simps

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:03 am**

Okay. Different approach.

If you are town Vivax it would help me if you read into Lily and Neon and tell me who you think is most likely a hit, or if you feel like neither of them are since that is what Im trying to sort out rn

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:05 am**

Noted for when I'm less prone to biting. Gonna head out soon.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 am**

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:13 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:52 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:13 pm Gonna be really funny when people realize I'm playing lol
We sheepin ran tr on you tbh
Probably smart tbh ran is good
Who do you think is wolf in this game Nanook?
Well I'm voting nutella so thats probably a good start
Noo, I'm thinking lily perhaps wolf. But if nutella flipped wolf, do you have thoughts on what that could mean for lily's alignment considering nutella is SR'ing her right now?

Sorry the devs ran out of budget and im only able to make one read at a time

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:07 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:56 am Also I think at this point trying to 'hide' who a real player is or isnt is kinda moot since mafia is likely to kill players anyways at this point so anyone trying to pass off as npc to survive at this point is anti-town .

Now I'mma do some wagon analysis for mafia too

**D1 wagons** golden>chelsea

golden (5): EnderWiggin, **Dyslexicon**, DeeZees, Vivax, DrWilgy

chelsea (2): ilario, Neon

D1 Wagons not saying much rn tbh. Like, if both Ilario and Neon are players, there are two players more in the Golden wagon , so in {Ender,Dezees,Vivax,Wilg} which seems highly likely anyways. At least I think Ender is obvplayer and Wilg kinda too.

**D2 wagons** hk > santy

santygrass (4): Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees

hollowkatt (4): **santygrass**, Jackofhearts2005, **Dyslexicon**, DrWilgy

We know for sure thanks to this that one in {Vivax,pyxxy,Ender,DeZees} is NPC . Then, if Jack isnt a player there should be 2 sure NPCs there. If Jack is a player the rest of them *could* be players.

Tbh overall I think it makes me more comfy with DeZees claiming NPC .

**D3 Wagons** Ran=DrWilgy

Ran (6) Nutella, Ender, Vivax, Jack, Ilario, Silverkeith

Ranmilia (3) Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal

This is juicy kindof. Think it for sure confirms that there are 3 NPCs in the Ran wagon. So in {Nutella,Ender,Vivax,Jack,Ilario,Silverkeith} . From that list, I think SKeith is the most obvious NPC. Ender is the obv player.

So between {Nutella,Vivax,Jack,Ilario} are 2 players and 2 NPCs. Kinda hard to read into it rn because I think there are odds of both nutella being a player or them being an NPC and trying to appear to be a player lol. Tho I think there are low.

So assumin Nutella player only one in (Vivax/Jack/ilario) is playing which is wowee. My bet rn would be Jack and Ilario as NPCs but it kinda gives me enough waver to not want to vote anyone in that group today

There's not much reason to vote in that group anyway. Git gud.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:10 pm**

Given that Lily and Neon have been by far the biggest consensus scumreads today, is there anything that necessarily links them together to where they could be potential partners, or is there a certain air of exclusivity to their scumreads (aka if one flips mafia, the other’s likelihood of being mafia drops to some degree)?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:13 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:14 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:03 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:07 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:03 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:00 am santy making a wolfy post is towny
Maybe because he's hesitating to make a read on you?
partially, just think the post on the surface is kinda awful but I think santy's pov here is genuinely uninformed and like a towny way to just go eh whatever

i think for me it's the eh whatever + porscha town. He shows a depth of thought of not lumping Porscha in with me and neon because she's played much townier.

Santy town
Everybody else is also already thinking that between our love triangle, I am the most town. It's a parroted opinion whether its from town or wolf santy.
so?

I'm not inclined to believe it's really worth town reading santy for. I sorta feel like you made the read on him in a hurried way that likely spells that there was a reason to read him like that.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:14 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:13 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:52 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:13 pm Gonna be really funny when people realize I'm playing lol
We sheepin ran tr on you tbh
Probably smart tbh ran is good
Who do you think is wolf in this game Nanook?
Well I'm voting nutella so thats probably a good start
Noo, I'm thinking lily perhaps wolf. But if nutella flipped wolf, do you have thoughts on what that could mean for lily's alignment considering nutella is SR'ing her right now?
Sorry the devs ran out of budget and im only able to make one read at a time

Fine just release the game unfinished and then patch it for an extra fee FINE

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:15 pm**

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:32 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:25 amEw lol
I gneuinely think you are the towniest player in the game.

You're an NPC you're allowed to say that

Plus you have a pass card for simp

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:15 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:10 am Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed <-this read is problematic because NPCs are motivated to falseclaim bc funne and townies are not motivated to CC because NPCs are motivated to falseclaim
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue

I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:16 pm**

Overall, good list. Matches a lot of my vague thoughts which makes me feel good about myself even though I've been pretty lazy about this game.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm**

I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least

Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm**

Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm**

Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:32 pm**

Yeah I can agree in the Seanzie part, in my head that read is like, only valid if assuming Seanzie is a player , they are town unless they are cc'ed.
But if they NPC then just wait until purge tbh. In either way I think Seanzie should be yeeted or is a priority rn even tho they were a scumread of tuutu

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:33 pm**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:10 pm Given that Lily and Neon have been by far the biggest consensus scumreads today, is there anything that necessarily links them together to where they could be potential partners, or is there a certain air of exclusivity to their scumreads (aka if one flips mafia, the other’s likelihood of being mafia drops to some degree)?

I think Lily kinda scumread Neon SoD today but nothing too unaligning. The fact that they both voted Ranmilia yesterday instead of pushing Wilg maybe? But I wouldnt had the alignment of one affect the other rn. At least on a surface level

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