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Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm**

I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:42 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:34 pm Bruh, you can absolutely read her off of her play what is this
No I can't. I've been wrong on Wisdom too many times. Me reading her on her play especially on day 1 when I don't have to is +ev for everyone.
"I've been wrong on Wisdom before, therefor no one else can read her and we should all leave her alone."

Huh?

I mean you're exactly the same lol. You always talk about how you can't read me.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:14 pm**

Like I'm sure that Anne is town here just based off of differences in how she's pushing her reads compared to her FoxFalls game when I iso'd it before this so I find out if I can find a difference between that and her town game.
I figured something out and I'm not really seeing it here.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:15 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:42 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:34 pm Bruh, you can absolutely read her off of her play what is this
No I can't. I've been wrong on Wisdom too many times. Me reading her on her play especially on day 1 when I don't have to is +ev for everyone.
"I've been wrong on Wisdom before, therefor no one else can read her and we should all leave her alone."

Huh?

I didn't say that.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:16 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.

I kinda think he's not bussing you at least, even though that's his signature move. I guess he could be pocketing me and I'm wrong but he sounds kinda spot on tbh

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:16 pm**

I said nothing about nobody else being able read Wisdom in any of my posts. Get your facts right. I am declining doing so myself. Y'all go ahead.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:17 pm**

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:16 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
I kinda think he's not bussing you at least, even though that's his signature move. I guess he could be pocketing me and I'm wrong but he sounds kinda spot on tbh

Oh no, we're definitely partners, we just planned this ahead of time because it's believable.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:18 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:43 pm Well, then let me read her for you.

Which I already have

You are voting alongside my top scum whomst you are townreading so your reads are not massively influential to me at this time. Should I be proven wrong at some point while you right or our reads align in some significant way perhaps things may change.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:14 pm Like I'm sure that Anne is town here just based off of differences in how she's pushing her reads compared to her FoxFalls game when I iso'd it before this so I find out if I can find a difference between that and her town game.
I figured something out and I'm not really seeing it here.

If you were mafia and Anne town and reading you town how would you generally read her?

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:29 pm I can't read Wisdom off her play. She's too good at mafia. She's being voted by my top mafia read so that's good enough for a townread for me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:42 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:34 pm Bruh, you can absolutely read her off of her play what is this
No I can't. I've been wrong on Wisdom too many times. Me reading her on her play especially on day 1 when I don't have to is +ev for everyone.

Explain how you read these posts and deciphered that I'm saying nobody should read her and we should leave her alone? @Lime Coke

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.

lolwut

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:14 pm Like I'm sure that Anne is town here just based off of differences in how she's pushing her reads compared to her FoxFalls game when I iso'd it before this so I find out if I can find a difference between that and her town game.
I figured something out and I'm not really seeing it here.
If you were mafia and Anne town and reading you town how would you generally read her?

Townread her back and pocket her as long as possible while trying to steer her away from my partners and kill her when she manages to turn the gears into noticing that I'm full of shit and probably mafia.

I doubt I'd be able to get her to townread me as mafia though, since I've seen her and Alexa talk about looking at one of my games (The mountainous game that I won) after the game was over and Alexa told me that Anne managed to instantly guess both my partner and I as mafia, so even if she hasn't been in a game with me forever I think she'd still be able to find me and kill me while I'm mafia.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm**

I mean, I guess it's possible. He did do that in the Hydra 10 game kinda, but there's so much time left in the day that even if he is mafia idt that would be his entire reasoning for defending Wisdom iyam.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:27 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:14 pm Like I'm sure that Anne is town here just based off of differences in how she's pushing her reads compared to her FoxFalls game when I iso'd it before this so I find out if I can find a difference between that and her town game.
I figured something out and I'm not really seeing it here.
If you were mafia and Anne town and reading you town how would you generally read her?
Townread her back and pocket her as long as possible while trying to steer her away from my partners and kill her when she manages to turn the gears into noticing that I'm full of shit and probably mafia.

I doubt I'd be able to get her to townread me as mafia though, since I've seen her and Alexa talk about looking at one of my games (The mountainous game that I won) after the game was over and Alexa told me that Anne managed to instantly guess both my partner and I as mafia, so even if she hasn't been in a game with me forever I think she'd still be able to find me and kill me while I'm mafia.

So you'd do exactly what you're doing. Good chat.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:28 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm I mean, I guess it's possible. He did do that in the Hydra 10 game kinda, but there's so much time left in the day that even if he is mafia idt that would be his entire reasoning for defending Wisdom iyam.

I'm not defending Wisdom. I am refusing to read her. Facts Anne.

I am townreading her because I believe mafia are voting her. I'm not actively preventing anyone from reading her or trying to block activity there.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut

I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.

I've been pretty clear about it. You just seem to be willfully attempting to not understand it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:28 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm I mean, I guess it's possible. He did do that in the Hydra 10 game kinda, but there's so much time left in the day that even if he is mafia idt that would be his entire reasoning for defending Wisdom iyam.
I'm not defending Wisdom. I am refusing to read her. Facts Anne.

I am townreading her because I believe mafia are voting her. I'm not actively preventing anyone from reading her or trying to block activity there.

I mean I'm not even scumreading Wisdom off of any meta tells tho. Just actual play that I'd find scummy in any player. That's why it's weird to me that you're like "NOPE. NO. CAN'T READ WISDOM."

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.

tbf idt mac has stated a read on anyone but you.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm**

I missed playing with Anne

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:28 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm I mean, I guess it's possible. He did do that in the Hydra 10 game kinda, but there's so much time left in the day that even if he is mafia idt that would be his entire reasoning for defending Wisdom iyam.
I'm not defending Wisdom. I am refusing to read her. Facts Anne.

I am townreading her because I believe mafia are voting her. I'm not actively preventing anyone from reading her or trying to block activity there.
I mean I'm not even scumreading Wisdom off of any meta tells tho. Just actual play that I'd find scummy in any player. That's why it's weird to me that you're like "NOPE. NO. CAN'T READ WISDOM."

Because I read Wisdom as scum in 100% of her games therefore the utility of my read is nil except for in the approx 20% of cases I get lucky. Which makes me reading her entirely pointless.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.
tbf idt mac has stated a read on anyone but you.

Incorrect.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm I missed playing with Anne

Pocket harder scum.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm**

Sounding the @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME signal. I want your input here.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.
tbf idt mac has stated a read on anyone but you.
Incorrect.

I meant on the Wisdom wagon. If you have then mb

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:36 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.
tbf idt mac has stated a read on anyone but you.
Incorrect.
I meant on the Wisdom wagon. If you have then mb

I read every person that Wisdom had a read on to validate the quality of her reads as a means to establish an understanding of the game. They were quite ok. I especially found her Lime Coke read good. Her Rondo read is probably bad but that's more because of Rondo than her. Her reads didn't feel too bad. Not clearingly mind meldy but understandable.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:37 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm Sounding the @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME signal. I want your input here.

Sup

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm**

Eh, her recent posts are a bit better. The LC read is like okay. I don't think the Rondo read is good because I think it's very easy to fabricate, but it's not as horrid as her earlier posts.

I think my issue with her recent posts tho is that it seems like she's being cautious about the reads she's making imo.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm**

I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:39 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm Sounding the @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME signal. I want your input here.
Sup

I think LC is howling. What you think?

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:39 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:25 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm I can't tell if Mac is mafia trying to distract us and trying to lure us away from Wisdom or if he actually believes this.
lolwut
I mean I'm not sure how he's reading us this way, then going with the "I don't know how to read Wisdom" stuff.
tbf idt mac has stated a read on anyone but you.
Incorrect.
I meant on the Wisdom wagon. If you have then mb

I think I saw him say he's scumreading you based off of townreading me...which is kinda "meh" because you've played with me way more and you know how to read me. Plus I've told you before you have incredible accuracy on your reads.
Possible it's a game he's off on me specifically since SOD was kinda "meh" again until this morning so there wasn't much to go off of. I'm playing my game how I normally play it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.

How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm**

Okay as I post that he changes his read and goes to Falcon, great timing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao

Where did I imply worlds here?

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm**

112 read is fine. None of her posts were inspiring, but wouldn't call her a wolf just yet because that kinda stuff is hard to get a good read on. Falcon idk, I'm kinda bad at reading him. The rest of the stuff we agree on except LC and Rondo (who I haven't read yet).

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.

Why am I town? I've done nothing deserving of this read.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao
Where did I imply worlds here?

I wasn't sure if "you" meant me or what

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao
Where did I imply worlds here?

You did for several posts?

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:43 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
Why am I town? I've done nothing deserving of this read.

You've done more for it than 112 did.

I just read your intro as oooh I've got a scummy in my cross-hairs as earnest.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:43 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao
Where did I imply worlds here?
You did for several posts?

Where did I imply worlds in the post Anne is taking issue with?

Independent reads.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:44 pm**

Not only that but just cuz I momentarily speculate you're trying to pocket her doesn't mean you are. My original read is that her having you town is suspicious for her because I'd expect her to have the same read on you as I do.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:45 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:41 pm
anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:38 pm I have guillo and Michelle as town. Rondo as town.

Seanzie is a light town lean. Wilgy is lightly town.

Nanook in his Nanook tier.

112 slight sus. You're also in this tier.

Falcon and Lime Coke are both very sus.
How am I mafia with Lime Coke if he's pocketing me lmao
Where did I imply worlds here?
I wasn't sure if "you" meant me or what

It means you. But there is no worldbuilding implicit in this readslist.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:47 pm**

neither of you seem to be reading what I'm saying in a balanced and unbias fashion here tho so it's not making me feel any differently

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:48 pm**

Well, I will say one thing that pinged me about LC was how he immediately followed my Wisdom read but said like nothing else on Wisdom at all. I don't think him following me is unusual, just kinda unusual that he read me town instantly then followed me lol. But maybe I'm overthinking it cause of Mac stuff.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm Sounding the @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME signal. I want your input here.
Sup
I think LC is howling. What you think?

I thibk the only LC posts I've read are the worlde post and one where he's TRing Anne (shockingly)

So yeah sure

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:47 pm neither of you seem to be reading what I'm saying in a balanced and unbias fashion here tho so it's not making me feel any differently

I mean you changed from "You both are mafia" to "Brad is pocketing Anne" to "You both are possibly mafia but I'm stating this is without world building" again so, how are we supposed to be answering this?

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:47 pm neither of you seem to be reading what I'm saying in a balanced and unbias fashion here tho so it's not making me feel any differently

Idk how you're getting that from my posts at all tbh

I am merely trying to understand what you're getting at.

Sorry if that makes you feel some type of way tho, it's not my intention.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm**

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:47 pm neither of you seem to be reading what I'm saying in a balanced and unbias fashion here tho so it's not making me feel any differently
I mean you changed from "You both are mafia" to "Brad is pocketing Anne" to "You both are possibly mafia but I'm stating this is without world building" again so, how are we supposed to be answering this?

it's called having suspicion and exploring the ways it might make sense

answer is several ways... which doesn't bode well.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:51 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:48 pm Well, I will say one thing that pinged me about LC was how he immediately followed my Wisdom read but said like nothing else on Wisdom at all. I don't think him following me is unusual, just kinda unusual that he read me town instantly then followed me lol. But maybe I'm overthinking it cause of Mac stuff.

I've done this with Illwei before since she's typically >rand accurate. I would definitely do that with you, especially since we haven't played in forever and I can count on you way more.

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