The Syndicate

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:40 am Ender may be kinda skating by.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:41 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:40 am Ender may be kinda skating by.

thats why i was asking about ender/tsp to you.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:02 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:20 pm

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:15 pm due to my ridiculously high scum flip ratio idek if i've played as town with either ilario or alexa so this would be my first time sorting them in a forum setting lol

i've specced games w/ both of them as scum and they usually make it p deep if not endgame

I've explained 1 thing about her meta, when she's going to certain people (Illario, Esooa to an extent this game) trying to get them to townread her it's typically in her town meta. She works extremely hard on getting townread early and then solves. People have called it LAMIST but that's just what she does.

She'll use her vote multiple times but it's gonna be hard to track with this site. She's been verbally saying her votes though so basically treat it like EM forum games.

There's a few other things. Like, I've found her as town quickly in numerous games. She's not a hard town to find.

That explains a bit, it's NAI for Lime Coke though because I assume this player has experience with her. Unless the entire thing is a lie, but several players here should be able to call that out if it were so, and I don't think anyone did? I assume people would be talking about this if they did.

I'm starting to notice a pattern of focusing on meta assessments and seemingly disregarding everything else. Lime Coke's entire earlygame is filled with metareads on other players and discussions about How These Player Treat Each Other In Games and it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Or maybe I'm just getting tired of it because I'm not sure where half these reads come from (I have little to no past experience to draw from).

I think illario's villagery despite that and I still townread Nanook for bad reasons. Alexa is realistically null but I still feel like she could be a wolf atp. Lime Coke is... well, I want to say they're town, but they're probably a top scumread within this playerlist for a reason. I think their posts early on have been fine, but the complete zeroing-in on meta and the people they know feels more like they're trying to participate in existing discourse rather than bring independent ideas to the table. That's the opposite of what alexa's doing, since alexa had outed like six different reads by then, some already with progression. By far the solviest player on the opening pages.

My alexa wolfread may just be paranoia. It's not like her posts are bad when I look past the self-awareness and overreactions (which are like 90% personality-indicative and not alignment-indicative anyway). That said, I'm still not confident enough to call her town.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:30 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?

2.

Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.

Lime Coke wants to have good rapport with everyone, but isn't making any actual reads outside of presenting meta analyses that several players in this game already know.

Seems like IIoA and trying to position themselves in the thread.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:14 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I mean the people townreading me confidently are Alexa, who I've stated we've been t/t around 10 games by now, and Illario, which pinged me but if he's actually town this game then holy shit we've made progress. Both are from my homesite and have played with me numerous times.

I believe the others were Ender and Mac? I haven't seen their reasoning but they are the ones that have played only 1 or 2 games with me. Ender I'm confident is town as I've stated before, Mac I gotta see what's going on the later the game goes.

what maade u so confident on ender atp?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:36 am Starting to think I might've given Nanook too much credit for his early posting, but I still think he's a bit above null regardless.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:41 pm What's the post cap in this game per day?

Genuinely find this post wolfy because asking about the postcap feels like "how many times do I have to post." Might be a dumb read but idk.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:47 am At the same time I still can’t get over how LC made an entire case about someone and then almost forgot their existence right after. That’s why I always try and rely on others to read him LOLLL

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am Wiml is pretty scummy.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:49 am Cos ur not even pushing him that much

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:54 am

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:49 am Cos ur not even pushing him that much

I don't necessarily "push" on people. My idea is to "gather the troops" and 1 by 1 get people to vote out who I want voted out.

This was similar to how I won cop CC battles on EpicMafia. I would basically just ATE the entire player roster 1 by 1 to get them to vote out my CC.

I was somewhat doing the same here until Alexa stood her ground and spoke about wanting Wiml out instead, that's when I unvoted and spoke about my intentions of voting out Wiml.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao

I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:54 am

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:49 am Cos ur not even pushing him that much

I don't necessarily "push" on people. My idea is to "gather the troops" and 1 by 1 get people to vote out who I want voted out.

This was similar to how I won cop CC battles on EpicMafia. I would basically just ATE the entire player roster 1 by 1 to get them to vote out my CC.

I was somewhat doing the same here until Alexa stood her ground and spoke about wanting Wiml out instead, that's when I unvoted and spoke about my intentions of voting out Wiml.

Huh?? How did wiml get into this? Isn’t ur case on nanook??

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao

I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.

what made you decide to this game?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:59 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao

I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.

what made you decide to this game?

Because I fucked up on MacDougal and realized that I had to make it up.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:29 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:27 am basically the read on transcend was he should have known that LC was town if he was town and the fact that he expressed doubt was scummy and if that argument sounds like TMI to you then uh idk it is probably

This sounds more like wtf than scummy. Those types of reads kill paranoid/doubtful villagers all the time.

I wanted to say that's actually towny for alexa in a vacuum if transcend didn't change his alexa read afterward. If you're wolfing, you don't push the villagers who are townreading you. However, if you're truthful about the reasoning used to push on him, that's so horrendous that I'm back to scumreading her for it.

Did anyone else embark on the push with commentary other than placing naked votes? What did they say?

And have you fulfilled your solving quota for the day already? Is that why you aren't solving and just listening to me talk like illario?

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:01 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:59 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao

I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.

what made you decide to this game?

Because I fucked up on MacDougal and realized that I had to make it up.

why did you have to though? and what led you to think it was Nanook after the Mac green?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:07 pm If scum have any cajones they'll kill me tonight

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am @ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:03 am Tbh I don’t think anyone remembers anyone’s playstyle in anni. I remember seeing tsp there and if u told me this guy here and the dude I saw in anni were the same people I’d be shocked

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:06 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:02 am And oh, Lime Coke's Brad? Somehow, that didn't even occur to me until now.
Turbo the guy, in that case. I villaged with him in DragonVale (admittedly he was alting but not for long) and his play didn't look like this.

@alexa How uncharitable of me to wolfread someone who's constantly self-aware, overreacts to the slightest wolfread, seeks to appease people scumreading them and pushed Transcend for bad reasons on day 1 according to TSP. I could probably spare the sarcasm, but the fact you're OMGUSing me right away for this is honestly laughable.

There are some villagery things you've done, and you've definitely been solving, but I don't think it's unreasonable for me not to townread you based on what I've seen from you in the early game, which is all that I've seen so far. And considering you seem to have misyeeted Transcend who'd be among my top TRs right now if he were alive. Yes, villagers make mistakes and push on town all the time, but I'm not sure how you can have this "scumreading me is bad faith ditto" attitude with all that in mind.

I don't hold my DragonVale misyeet against people like illario because I defended two wolves in that game and it was natural to me I'd get suspected. If you're a villager, it should be natural to you too, but instead I sense immense salt.

Don't take this personally, this isn't an attack on your character. But regardless, I think me not townreading you and putting you in PoE is perfectly fine. And sure, LC defended you on a meta basis, but LC is also very wolfy - so I don't weigh that much, if at all. Plus, you defended him as well, and I think he probably flips W now. I won't pursue this line until I actually see LC's flip, but yeah.

1. I'm self-aware. This is my playstyle. You nitpicked a post I hedged and quite literally said I hedged but just wanted to talk about my immediate thoughts. You're acting exactly how I'd expect a wolf to while picking apart me on a micro-level and ignoring things on a macro level

2. You literally cannot say Transcend would be a top townread when you weren't there

3. And this, TSP's information is wrong, I literally SAID THAT I VILLAGE READ TRANSCEND BY THE END OF THE DAY. It was mac and Alison specifically who were pushing that yeet through - I was one of the few people trying to engage with him and stating that I felt like his EOD was actually coming from him as a villager - he was just making his own bed

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:07 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:03 am Tbh I don’t think anyone remembers anyone’s playstyle in anni. I remember seeing tsp there and if u told me this guy here and the dude I saw in anni were the same people I’d be shocked

i haven't changed any of my idiosyncrasies what gives smh

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:09 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:07 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:03 am Tbh I don’t think anyone remembers anyone’s playstyle in anni. I remember seeing tsp there and if u told me this guy here and the dude I saw in anni were the same people I’d be shocked

i haven't changed any of my idiosyncrasies what gives smh

You were way more assertive In general and proactive in getting reada

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:51 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:46 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:46 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 am Wiml what's your read on me

Not a meme

I want to call you town but I'm not calling you town yet lol.

well explain

I saw you made a towny post that somebody else quoted and I'm just going to wait until I catch up to that point in the thread before I commit to a read on you lol.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:10 pm [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:17 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:10 pm [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

take responsibility for yourself smh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:23 pm anyways alexa's lock town for the post she made when she voted for mac so vul you can stop worrying and I'm not gonna entertain any of that any more but like yeah i agree with you

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:27 pm Also @alexa a final thought I had just before I sleep.

I think people were asking the wrong question early. The question to ask isn’t why you/me were left alive. Keep in mind 3/7 of the lobby don’t know us that well and therefore not have shared the same sentiments wiml was using to try and clear himself earlier.

I think the question to ask is: why was “syn” specifically killed. It could be there’s a scum in this lobby that he’s particularly good at catching and can sniff out better than most people can.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:29 pm esooa's slot was an ic to like one and a half people

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:29 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:27 pm Also @alexa a final thought I had just before I sleep.

I think people were asking the wrong question early. The question to ask isn’t why you/me were left alive. Keep in mind 3/7 of the lobby don’t know us that well and therefore not have shared the same sentiments wiml was using to try and clear himself earlier.

I think the question to ask is: why was “syn” specifically killed. It could be there’s a scum in this lobby that he’s particularly good at catching and can sniff out better than most people can.

based on what i know of syn, killing them for their play alone would be a bit odd. they are a complete wildcard but esooa's slot was an IC. something to consider though for sure