The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm**

I'm tired and drunk. Now is your time to ask me anything you want.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 pm I still want to lynch JJJ. That's a third party person if ever there was.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
Why me instead of whoever?

Because you're voting for me.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:14 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 pm I still want to lynch JJJ. That's a third party person if ever there was.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
Why me instead of whoever?
Because you're voting for me.

Okay.

Why is KitsuShel a civilian? Why is sabie12 a civilian?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:15 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 pm I still want to lynch JJJ. That's a third party person if ever there was.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
Why me instead of whoever?
Because you're voting for me.
Okay.

Why is KitsuShel a civilian? Why is sabie12 a civilian?

Did I say either of them are?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:17 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:15 pm Did I say either of them are?

It's an implication that one or both would be civilians if I am not, unless you would suggest 1) we all form a mafia team or 2) there are multiple hostile independents among the three of us. Would either of those apply?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:18 pm**

or 3) you don't trust someone that has been checked/is a checker

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:21 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:15 pm Did I say either of them are?
It's an implication that one or both would be civilians if I am not, unless you would suggest 1) we all form a mafia team or 2) there are multiple hostile independents among the three of us. Would either of those apply?

My dude I put my vote on you so I can see the poll. I'm tired as hell.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:23 pm**

So glad when I'm done with this shit.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm**

General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm**

Not sure how treating poison on Day 1 is supposed to work

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm Not sure how treating poison on Day 1 is supposed to work

It's what I do.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

What are you asking?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:36 pm**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

What are you asking?

Jack’s Day 2 poll tells us (implicitly) to vote for the player that killed Funnygurl.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:36 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

What are you asking?
Jack’s Day 2 poll tells us (implicitly) to vote for the player that killed Funnygurl.

Oh right yeah I thought you were saying she killed both of them or something. Hmmm yeah I guess you're right that is a good point.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:49 pm**

She also was one of the people who claimed miller. I guess I was going off the idea she wouldn't be the poisoner but she still could be 3p killer. Interesting she chose to claim that though if it is anit-town

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:51 am**

I don't have any major immediate grievances with KitsuShel as the mechanical suspect and nutella as a tinfoil alternative. I don't feel like this game has left us many good avenues by which to hunt, and we only barely even know what we're hunting for.

I hate to just shrug like this when the game may well be on the line. I just have no idea how to proceed.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:52 am**

[mention]Wisp[/mention] what is your gut take on sabie? I'm asking you specifically because your judgment cannot be influenced by prior experience or meta.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:53 am**

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:56 am**

You can tell I am well and truly clueless when I am referring to poll titles.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:12 am**

I only slept 4 hours lol
I'll give you my take after work

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:37 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:36 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:25 pm General question to anyone that has not yet addressed it. Is there more to the game than this?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.
I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

What are you asking?
Jack’s Day 2 poll tells us (implicitly) to vote for the player that killed Funnygurl.

Does it, though? It asks a question, who killed FG & Nanook? Why wouldn’t the town want to know why a player was killed? Like, the day ones ask which Jack has to go? I’m curious as to how you think a question equates to a death sentence.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:10 am**

[mention]KitsuShel[/mention] it would just parallel the vast majority of poll titles in other games here if it is meant to be interpreted as “answer this question and vote for that player”.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am**

Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 pm**

[mention]nutella[/mention] did you or Wilgy use an action on Night 1?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:38 pm**

[VOTE: KitsuShel] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.

Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:46 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.
Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.

Do you have any other reads?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:02 pm**

I just want to point out that people are still ignoring the existence of the Blonde dude who’s a non-Jack and the possible Joker/Jack Napier poisoner.

Question: After y’all yeet me, and I come up town, what will you do then? With probably two town enemies lurking amongst you, will you then start to think maybe someone is lying or that results are not set in stone?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:08 pm**

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:02 pm I just want to point out that people are still ignoring the existence of the Blonde dude who’s a non-Jack and the possible Joker/Jack Napier poisoner.

Question: After y’all yeet me, and I come up town, what will you do then? With probably two town enemies lurking amongst you, will you then start to think maybe someone is lying or that results are not set in stone?

I seriously have no idea how to go about "finding the blonde dude". If you have any ideas I am all ears.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:50 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 pm @nutella did you or Wilgy use an action on Night 1?

I was not told. I could ask.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:51 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 pm @nutella did you or Wilgy use an action on Night 1?
I was not told. I could ask.

Please do

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:06 pm**

Ugh I really don't blame yall for tinfoiling me, I know I haven't put much effort into this and took advantage of wisp's check to kind of slank. I get that my role is not particularly proveable but, still, come on, eliminating me before kitsu or sabie is just dumb at this point. It really feels almost like a crapshoot at this point but I think kitsu makes logical sense as a priority but assuming we still have a poisoner to find I really think it's either sabie or jay.

....hm. well. if kitsu really is a town vig, maybe it would make more sense to eliminate sabie or jay today and have kitsu agree to NK the other one and see if the game ends??

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:19 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:06 pm Ugh I really don't blame yall for tinfoiling me, I know I haven't put much effort into this and took advantage of wisp's check to kind of slank. I get that my role is not particularly proveable but, still, come on, eliminating me before kitsu or sabie is just dumb at this point. It really feels almost like a crapshoot at this point but I think kitsu makes logical sense as a priority but assuming we still have a poisoner to find I really think it's either sabie or jay.

....hm. well. if kitsu really is a town vig, maybe it would make more sense to eliminate sabie or jay today and have kitsu agree to NK the other one and see if the game ends??

Why is it dumb to eliminate you before Kitsu or sabie if you don't believe Kitsu is even a candidate for poisoner?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:20 pm**

because I'm obviously not a threat and kitsu could be?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:20 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:06 pm ....hm. well. if kitsu really is a town vig, maybe it would make more sense to eliminate sabie or jay today and have kitsu agree to NK the other one and see if the game ends??

I'm a civilian. If sabie is too, that may well end the game.

The wrong way.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:21 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:20 pm because I'm obviously not a threat and kitsu could be?

I wish that was obvious.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:21 pm**

I mean, the only way you could think i'm a threat is if you also tinfoil wisp, yeah?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:22 pm**

I do agree this feels like a crapshoot though. We have exactly nothing to go on and any chop here feels like a shrug to me. The literal best I can do is "the Day 2 poll told me to chop Kitsu".

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:23 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:21 pm I mean, the only way you could think i'm a threat is if you also tinfoil wisp, yeah?

He implied earlier that it is possible, in theory, for his investigations to be tampered with. If you're the supposed tampering protector, I don't really need Wisp to be your teammate or some such for you to just flat not be what you say you are.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:25 pm**

In the territory of questioning Wisp's checks, I don't really trust Long Con either at this point. That's why I asked about a Wilgy/nutella action on Night 1, to see what tampering if any could exist for Wisp's LC check.

He has not hunted at all since he was cleared beyond what may truly be the emptiest tunnel I have ever been subjected to. There's seriously nothing in that tunnel, but it continues to happen.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:25 pm**

Oh and Epi has all but begged for the game to end since he was cleared.

Great situation.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:29 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.
Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.
Do you have any other reads?

I thought that I was the best doctor ever. When things started getting narrow down and it seemed like there was no Mafia kill, I already had my tuxedo on for this year's Sockys.

Then I didn't even send in a protect last night, and there was still no kill. I hadn't totally believe in the idea that there was no Mafia in this game, but what am I supposed to do with that?

If there's no Mafia, then I don't know who we have to kill, it could be anybody. You are the one I have suspected the most, maybe you are the only one we have to kill. I don't know. I don't know what else to go on oh, but my guts, at this point.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:30 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:22 pm I do agree this feels like a crapshoot though. We have exactly nothing to go on and any chop here feels like a shrug to me. The literal best I can do is "the Day 2 poll told me to chop Kitsu".

If that's the literal best that you can do, then I welcome oblivion.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:05 am sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Spacedaisy
do we just follow Alison's legacy and double check Epi here?
or are we splitting?

I still think Epi is bad, and I will die on that hill. But even if I'm not yeeted today, I don't want to target anyone else and get the ????. That's driving me nuts not knowing what FG & Colin's alignments were. If you're going to trust all of Wisp's check (they were the ones that were insane Jack Torrance, too, correct?) then that leaves what, two people left who could be the poisoner and the blonde non-Jack?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:31 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:29 pm I thought that I was the best doctor ever. When things started getting narrow down and it seemed like there was no Mafia kill, I already had my tuxedo on for this year's Sockys.

Then I didn't even send in a protect last night, and there was still no kill. I hadn't totally believe in the idea that there was no Mafia in this game, but what am I supposed to do with that?

If there's no Mafia, then I don't know who we have to kill, it could be anybody. You are the one I have suspected the most, maybe you are the only one we have to kill. I don't know. I don't know what else to go on oh, but my guts, at this point.

Okay I believe this. Long Con is fine.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:31 pm**

zOmG EvErYoNe Is ToWnY

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:32 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.
Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.
Do you have any other reads?
I thought that I was the best doctor ever. When things started getting narrow down and it seemed like there was no Mafia kill, I already had my tuxedo on for this year's Sockys.

Then I didn't even send in a protect last night, and there was still no kill. I hadn't totally believe in the idea that there was no Mafia in this game, but what am I supposed to do with that?

If there's no Mafia, then I don't know who we have to kill, it could be anybody. You are the one I have suspected the most, maybe you are the only one we have to kill. I don't know. I don't know what else to go on oh, but my guts, at this point.

I think the poisoning might be the mafia hit, which doesn't show up until end of the next day.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:34 pm**

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:32 pmI think the poisoning might be the mafia hit, which doesn't show up until end of the next day.

I think that's the only possible angle remaining for any kind of "mafia team" to exist, and even that isn't really a mafia team. If that's it, then the team dynamics would open up to something like [Funnygurl and/or Colin] + [nutella and/or Epignosis] with the possible inclusion of sabie and/or Kitsu. If my understanding of this mechanical nonsense is remotely accurate.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm**

in worst case worlds, we could be in mylo, if you are town, you should not be offering yourself up...

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm**

Epignosis claimed that he treated a poison on Day 1.

Is a poisoner ever able to kill someone on Day 1? It'd require an action to start the day to make sense. This game did not have a Day 0.

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