The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:41 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm It says the poll has ended btw?

The poll doesn't count.

It ends in 19 minutes.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:44 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.

Who claimed vote-altering powers? A number of people?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.
Who claimed vote-altering powers? A number of people?

I don't know who claimed them. I remember reading about them.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:18 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:16 pm Jjj is NOT mafia, he's even willing to die, this is insane
Neither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.
Um no, if you die and flip civ she becomes a red skittle.
That's about how much people have listened to me so far, I guess. What do I know, I've played this game like three times.
Lapluie crying out that we are about to mislynch you (if you are a civ) is about the biggest scumslip in the game so far.

umm wtf?? Becasue I town read him? Ok

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 pm**

what are the current votals?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:48 pm what are the current votals?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm AUBERGINE

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote:, Kylemii, sig

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm**

Vote for iron dwarf

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:41 pm At this point we don't know which of you goes but it's time for you to say your last words in case it's you.

Any civilians who contributed to my destruction: I forgive you. You did what you thought was best to progress our team just like I have done, and I cannot fault you for being wrong. We all are most of the time.

Some base points:

~ Never lynch the following players: speedchuck, MacDougall, Dragon D. Luffy

~ These are civilian reads, though I would encourage vigilant investigation anyway: nutella, lapluie, Kylemii, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kites

~ I think he looks like a civilian, though my tinfoil is twitching: rundontwalk

~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.

~ I have no reason to give any of these people civilian credit or otherwise have active suspicion of them: colonialbob, DrWilgy, Iron_Dwarf, Long Con, Marmot, sprityo, Quin

~ My top suspect is DrWilgy. Beyond the fake dunya crap, I also think he's by nature a high-chance don selection. Everybody loves Wilgy and would be pleased to have his unpredictable nonsense on their team with them.

~ USE YOUR DAMNED P.O.E. Make your cases and pursue them with fervor, but do not overestimate your own capacity to see through people. So far it hasn't gone well. Finding the first one is always the hardest part. Rely more on your civilian reads and work together.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm**

gwilikers vote has to be on jay for his thing to work right?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.
Who claimed vote-altering powers? A number of people?
I don't know who claimed them. I remember reading about them.

This seems important. I hope we can get some more solid facts on that. If we're going to side with you on this, then facts are what counts.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 pm**

AUBERGINE

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: [mention]Kylemii[/mention], [mention]sig[/mention] 10 minutes

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm ~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.

Forgot to say his name.

Epignosis.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 pm**

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm**

I also don't care for the late-arriving nutella wagon. Two of the three voters are non-civilian reads, and lapluie is still new to the thread at this point.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm**

If anyone changes their vote now I'd better hear a good reason for it.

CFDs are cancer.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm**

is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 pm**

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig

AUBERGINE

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm If anyone changes their vote now I'd better hear a good reason for it.

CFDs are cancer.

Do Jay's recent posts sway you? I am second guessing myself.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm If anyone changes their vote now I'd better hear a good reason for it.

CFDs are cancer.
Do Jay's recent posts sway you? I am second guessing myself.

Kid, I've been second guessing myself all day.

His latest posts don't make much of a difference. jay is always hard to lynch.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding

It is 100% perfect the way it is now.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm
~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.

Oh?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:55 am
BABY MOUNTAINS GOTTA GO
JaggedJimmy has been lynched. He was...

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Chocolate Hills, Philippines (120 m) - There are so many of these hills in this area that they haven’t all been counted yet. There are so many hills, and they look like chocolate kisses when the grass dries out. This distracts another player nightly, roleblocking a player of Chocolate Hills’ choice.

You have until 22:00 MST on Sunday to submit your night actions, as I will be incapacitated tomorrow.

Tell me:

Which of your teammates did I bag before you?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm**

Not saying you people can't change votes, but no "oopsies" plz.

Put your vote where your mouth is.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm**

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding
It is 100% perfect the way it is now.

Probably not.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm Tell me:

Which of your teammates did I bag before you?

Yes, you did it once. Congratulations, bravo.

It will remain once this time. I can understand why you'd overestimate your ability to read me with Mountains in mind. You'll learn.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm**

I'm shutting down my emotions and meditating like a godamn jedi.

Or a sith.

We're about to find out.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm**

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] gwil's vote counts for 2 if it's on a baddie so the idea is that currently Jay is in the lead because he hit 6 first, but if Dwarf is bad he'll get lynched by the extra vote

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm CFDs are cancer.

HOT POTATOES

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm**

If anyone other than Jay or ID gets lynched I'm gonna murder jack.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:58 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding
It is 100% perfect the way it is now.
Probably not.

In theory, of course.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:58 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm @Kylemii gwil's vote counts for 2 if it's on a baddie so the idea is that currently Jay is in the lead because he hit 6 first, but if Dwarf is bad he'll get lynched by the extra vote

If there are no other vote screwing and either of them is bad, that guy is dead.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:58 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.
Who claimed vote-altering powers? A number of people?
I don't know who claimed them. I remember reading about them.
This seems important. I hope we can get some more solid facts on that. If we're going to side with you on this, then facts are what counts.

I don't care who claimed what. I recall a few people claimed stuff regarding their votes counting or not counting depending on this or that. That is enough for me to believe that, in a game this size, given that they probably aren't lying, other people have vote manipulations one way or the other, and that, given the nature of this setup, mafia have some action in that regard as well.

Long Con saying that "facts are what counts." Sheesh, maybe you have gone soft.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm Tell me:

Which of your teammates did I bag before you?
Yes, you did it once. Congratulations, bravo.

It will remain once this time. I can understand why you'd overestimate your ability to read me with Mountains in mind. You'll learn.

Lynch this man.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm**

Is the phase still active? Like can we vote

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm Tell me:

Which of your teammates did I bag before you?
Yes, you did it once. Congratulations, bravo.

It will remain once this time. I can understand why you'd overestimate your ability to read me with Mountains in mind. You'll learn.
Lynch this man.

I think they already did. Calm down.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm Is the phase still active? Like can we vote

30 SECONDS

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm**

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Just in case theyre still open I want my level up.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm Is the phase still active? Like can we vote
30 SECONDS

DID I MAKE IT!

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm Is the phase still active? Like can we vote
30 SECONDS
DID I MAKE IT!

no

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm2. This is not pointless conjecture. There are votes that count. Votes that count twice. Votes that don't count if this or that. That isn't conjecture. Those things or variants of them exist. If they don't, a number of people are lying. That you think you will advance the civilian win condition by mindlessly setting up a tie because of one role makes me think you want a tie for evil reasons.
Who claimed vote-altering powers? A number of people?
I don't know who claimed them. I remember reading about them.
This seems important. I hope we can get some more solid facts on that. If we're going to side with you on this, then facts are what counts.
I don't care who claimed what. I recall a few people claimed stuff regarding their votes counting or not counting depending on this or that. That is enough for me to believe that, in a game this size, given that they probably aren't lying, other people have vote manipulations one way or the other, and that, given the nature of this setup, mafia have some action in that regard as well.

Long Con saying that "facts are what counts." Sheesh, maybe you have gone soft.

I'll settle for hearsay. Does anyone else recall players talking about their hidden vote manipulations? I don't, but I did skip a couple of pages here and there.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm**

Also poll says 8:30?

I voted for LC since ive got no clue what's going on except keeping it even will civ clear someone?

linki: Yes i did.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:55 pm Tell me:

Which of your teammates did I bag before you?
Yes, you did it once. Congratulations, bravo.

It will remain once this time. I can understand why you'd overestimate your ability to read me with Mountains in mind. You'll learn.
Lynch this man.
I think they already did. Calm down.

I thought you thought I_D was bad?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm Also poll says 8:30?

I voted for LC since ive got no clue what's going on except keeping it even will civ clear someone?

linki: Yes i did.

Read what is written in the poll.

9 pm CST

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pm**

If you want anymore legacy snacks, request them now while I'm in purgatory.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pm**

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding
It is 100% perfect the way it is now.

the way it is, jay dies unless iron dwarf is mafia, I thought the purpose of this plan was to do it the other way around, where Jay only dies if he's mafia

Jay living or dying right now depends only on whether or not it on dwarf is bad, it has nothing to do with his own alignment

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm CFDs are cancer.
HOT POTATOES

Sticking with cfd sorry :P

and agreed I hate them

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm I thought you thought I_D was bad?

I'm saying the deadline passed, though DDL disagreed. Who can tell.

If Dwarf is bad, hopefully he dies. I have no reason to give him civilian credit.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:05 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm CFDs are cancer.
HOT POTATOES

Meh, I like thinking of Computational Fluid Dynamics whenever you guys say it. It's funny.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:06 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 pm is the poll right? doesn't gwil have to be voting for jay? am I misunderstanding
It is 100% perfect the way it is now.
the way it is, jay dies unless iron dwarf is mafia, I thought the purpose of this plan was to do it the other way around, where Jay only dies if he's mafia

Jay living or dying right now depends only on whether or not it on dwarf is bad, it has nothing to do with his own alignment

Does it matter to you which way the plan functions?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:08 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:56 pm Don't let mafia tell you to keep the tie. Bury the mafia.
I like Epi.

[VOTE: JJJ] AUBERGINE ... ?

What is the whole AUBERGINE thing anyhow?
Just use [VOTE: tags.] aubergine

[VOTE:
[VOTE: JayJayJayJayJay?] aubergine] aubergine

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